Bill Gates insults Sandy

sarktastic

the tax policies of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and others are "missing the picture" and MMT is "crazy talk."

I would like to see Sandy and Bill and Howard discuss this in a friendly televised forum to help Sandy educate all of us directly without political spin.

We could hear tell about what it takes to build an organization from scratch with sourcing, manufacturing, distribution, accounting, building, expanding, healthcare, everything that goes into creating a successful multinational corporation and brand from scratch employing tens of thousands of people globally.

We could hear similar stories and challenges about developing new technology that powers the Globe.

We could then hear what it’s like to use a credit card scanner and serve coffee when it’s really busy.

PurpleThrobber

Two people I would NOT want to piss off - Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos. Pretty sure Gates could still fuck up my computer beyond recognition. Have always been careful not to blast him or Microsoft. And I need my Amazon delivery. NEED it. Like crack.

Other than that, fuck Howard Shultz. Fuck him. Fuck him every day of the week and his shitty coffee too.

FUCK HOWARD SCHULTZ

HHusky

Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

RaceBannon

The real issue is how the government gets a much of your cash as possible it sounds like

We covered income avoidance rather thoroughly when the 70% rate came up,

Gates talks a big game but doesn't seem to want to act. Now he has insulted the Queen

Sledog

HHusky said:

Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.

PurpleThrobber

HHusky said:

Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

What's the 'REAL ISSUE"? That some people work hard, innovate, create products and services the market appreciates and they are then compensated for those efforts?

So that at their death, some schlock bureaucrat redistributes said compensation/wealth on an arbitrary percentage the state deems necessary to support their wasteful spending and corruption?

Fuck that.

sarktastic

HHusky said:

Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

Bill Gates understands dupes like you don’t understand the benefits of transferring your highly appreciated assets into a perpetual Foundation you control to avoid taxation while calling for higher taxes on those trying to build a net worth.

BennyBeaver

PurpleThrobber said:

Two people I would NOT want to piss off - Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos. Pretty sure Gates could still fuck up my computer beyond recognition. Have always been careful not to blast him or Microsoft. And I need my Amazon delivery. NEED it. Like crack.

Other than that, fuck Howard Shultz. Fuck him. Fuck him every day of the week and his shitty coffee too.

FUCK HOWARD SCHULTZ

I u.

PurpleThrobber

BennyBeaver said:

PurpleThrobber said:

Two people I would NOT want to piss off - Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos. Pretty sure Gates could still fuck up my computer beyond recognition. Have always been careful not to blast him or Microsoft. And I need my Amazon delivery. NEED it. Like crack.

Other than that, fuck Howard Shultz. Fuck him. Fuck him every day of the week and his shitty coffee too.

FUCK HOWARD SCHULTZ

I u.

The Throbber should probably add those two fags at Google to the "don't fuck with" list, too. Though since moving to Bing, the porn search game has gone to a whole new level.

HHusky

sarktastic said:

HHusky said:

Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

Bill Gates understands dupes like you don’t understand the benefits of transferring your highly appreciated assets into a perpetual Foundation you control to avoid taxation while calling for higher taxes on those trying to build a net worth.

Estate taxes encourage philanthropy? Oh my goodness! That’s awful.

Does Bill also understand that dupes like you don’t understand that estate taxes incentivize societally beneficial activities as well as actually raising money?

HHusky

PurpleThrobber said:

HHusky said:

Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

What's the 'REAL ISSUE"? That some people work hard, innovate, create products and services the market appreciates and they are then compensated for those efforts?

So that at their death, some schlock bureaucrat redistributes said compensation/wealth on an arbitrary percentage the state deems necessary to support their wasteful spending and corruption?

Fuck that.

Throbber wants to pay all his taxes while he’s alive. HHusky would gladly pay his taxes when he’s dead.

sarktastic

Philanthropy.

Lol

Ok, Sure

Let me ask you this. Since Bill does it better, why don't we just outsource it all to him?

HHusky

Sledog said:

HHusky said:

Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.

I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!

HHusky

sarktastic said:

Philanthropy.

Lol

Ok, Sure

Let me ask you this. Since Bill does it better, why don't we just outsource it all to him?

I don’t know that he does it better. But if you didn’t understand that ideas behind tax policy include incentives to avoid taxation by doing things we value, then you’re really playing one-dimensional checkers, at best.

sarktastic

HHusky said:

sarktastic said:

Philanthropy.

Lol

Ok, Sure

Let me ask you this. Since Bill does it better, why don't we just outsource it all to him?

I don’t know that he does it better. But if you didn’t understand that ideas behind tax policy include incentives to avoid taxation by doing things we value, then you’re really playing one-dimensional checkers, at best.

You're playing with a short deck.

I never claimed to be a one-dimensional checkers expert.

HHusky

sarktastic said:

HHusky said:

sarktastic said:

Philanthropy.

Lol

Ok, Sure

Let me ask you this. Since Bill does it better, why don't we just outsource it all to him?

I don’t know that he does it better. But if you didn’t understand that ideas behind tax policy include incentives to avoid taxation by doing things we value, then you’re really playing one-dimensional checkers, at best.

You're playing with a short deck.

I never claimed to be a one-dimensional checkers expert.

That’s prudent. You shouldn’t start now.

sarktastic

I donate my time to the specially abled in activities that interest me.

No need to start your little game, I agree.

allpurpleallgold

Last month no one was talking about it, this month Howard Schultz is running for president because of it and Bill Gates is talking about it.

I know you guys like to pretend you’re not scared but, honestly, how fucking stupid would you have to be to not be scared?

PurpleThrobber

HHusky said:

Sledog said:

HHusky said:

Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.

I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!

I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

If that's not double taxation, what is it?

2001400ex

PurpleThrobber said:

HHusky said:

Sledog said:

HHusky said:

Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.

I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!

I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

If that's not double taxation, what is it?

You won't be taxed when you die. And the estate tax. The overwhelming majority of the amount that is taxed is unrealized capital gains that hasn't been taxed yet.

sarktastic

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