Bill Gates insults Sandy
I would like to see Sandy and Bill and Howard discuss this in a friendly televised forum to help Sandy educate all of us directly without political spin.
We could hear tell about what it takes to build an organization from scratch with sourcing, manufacturing, distribution, accounting, building, expanding, healthcare, everything that goes into creating a successful multinational corporation and brand from scratch employing tens of thousands of people globally.
We could hear similar stories and challenges about developing new technology that powers the Globe.
We could then hear what it’s like to use a credit card scanner and serve coffee when it’s really busy.
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Two people I would NOT want to piss off - Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos. Pretty sure Gates could still fuck up my computer beyond recognition. Have always been careful not to blast him or Microsoft. And I need my Amazon delivery. NEED it. Like crack.
Other than that, fuck Howard Shultz. Fuck him. Fuck him every day of the week and his shitty coffee too.
FUCK HOWARD SCHULTZ
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Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
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The real issue is how the government gets a much of your cash as possible it sounds like
We covered income avoidance rather thoroughly when the 70% rate came up,
Gates talks a big game but doesn't seem to want to act. Now he has insulted the Queen
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Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen. -
What's the 'REAL ISSUE"? That some people work hard, innovate, create products and services the market appreciates and they are then compensated for those efforts?HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
So that at their death, some schlock bureaucrat redistributes said compensation/wealth on an arbitrary percentage the state deems necessary to support their wasteful spending and corruption?
Fuck that.
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Bill Gates understands dupes like you don’t understand the benefits of transferring your highly appreciated assets into a perpetual Foundation you control to avoid taxation while calling for higher taxes on those trying to build a net worth.HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
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IPurpleThrobber said:Two people I would NOT want to piss off - Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos. Pretty sure Gates could still fuck up my computer beyond recognition. Have always been careful not to blast him or Microsoft. And I need my Amazon delivery. NEED it. Like crack.
Other than that, fuck Howard Shultz. Fuck him. Fuck him every day of the week and his shitty coffee too.
FUCK HOWARD SCHULTZ
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The Throbber should probably add those two fags at Google to the "don't fuck with" list, too. Though since moving to Bing, the porn search game has gone to a whole new level.BennyBeaver said:
IPurpleThrobber said:Two people I would NOT want to piss off - Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos. Pretty sure Gates could still fuck up my computer beyond recognition. Have always been careful not to blast him or Microsoft. And I need my Amazon delivery. NEED it. Like crack.
Other than that, fuck Howard Shultz. Fuck him. Fuck him every day of the week and his shitty coffee too.
FUCK HOWARD SCHULTZ u.
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Estate taxes encourage philanthropy? Oh my goodness! That’s awful.sarktastic said:
Bill Gates understands dupes like you don’t understand the benefits of transferring your highly appreciated assets into a perpetual Foundation you control to avoid taxation while calling for higher taxes on those trying to build a net worth.HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
Does Bill also understand that dupes like you don’t understand that estate taxes incentivize societally beneficial activities as well as actually raising money? -
PurpleThrobber said:
What's the 'REAL ISSUE"? That some people work hard, innovate, create products and services the market appreciates and they are then compensated for those efforts?HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
So that at their death, some schlock bureaucrat redistributes said compensation/wealth on an arbitrary percentage the state deems necessary to support their wasteful spending and corruption?
Fuck that.
Throbber wants to pay all his taxes while he’s alive. HHusky would gladly pay his taxes when he’s dead. -
Philanthropy.
Lol
Ok, Sure
Let me ask you this. Since Bill does it better, why don't we just outsource it all to him? -
I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!Sledog said:
Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
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I don’t know that he does it better. But if you didn’t understand that ideas behind tax policy include incentives to avoid taxation by doing things we value, then you’re really playing one-dimensional checkers, at best.sarktastic said:Philanthropy.
Lol
Ok, Sure
Let me ask you this. Since Bill does it better, why don't we just outsource it all to him? -
You're playing with a short deck.HHusky said:
I don’t know that he does it better. But if you didn’t understand that ideas behind tax policy include incentives to avoid taxation by doing things we value, then you’re really playing one-dimensional checkers, at best.sarktastic said:Philanthropy.
Lol
Ok, Sure
Let me ask you this. Since Bill does it better, why don't we just outsource it all to him?
I never claimed to be a one-dimensional checkers expert. -
That’s prudent. You shouldn’t start now.sarktastic said:
You're playing with a short deck.HHusky said:
I don’t know that he does it better. But if you didn’t understand that ideas behind tax policy include incentives to avoid taxation by doing things we value, then you’re really playing one-dimensional checkers, at best.sarktastic said:Philanthropy.
Lol
Ok, Sure
Let me ask you this. Since Bill does it better, why don't we just outsource it all to him?
I never claimed to be a one-dimensional checkers expert. -
I donate my time to the specially abled in activities that interest me.
No need to start your little game, I agree. -
Last month no one was talking about it, this month Howard Schultz is running for president because of it and Bill Gates is talking about it.
I know you guys like to pretend you’re not scared but, honestly, how fucking stupid would you have to be to not be scared? -
HHusky said:
I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!Sledog said:
Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.
If that's not double taxation, what is it?
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You won't be taxed when you die. And the estate tax. The overwhelming majority of the amount that is taxed is unrealized capital gains that hasn't been taxed yet.PurpleThrobber said:HHusky said:
I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!Sledog said:
Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.
If that's not double taxation, what is it? -
Step up in basis
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So you're moving the goalpost to say "the Estate" or "your heirs" will be taxed. BULLSHIT.2001400ex said:
You won't be taxed when you die. And the estate tax. The overwhelming majority of the amount that is taxed is unrealized capital gains that hasn't been taxed yet.PurpleThrobber said:HHusky said:
I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!Sledog said:
Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.
If that's not double taxation, what is it?
Fucking bullshit. It's a money grab instead of addressing the core issues of government overspending and waste.
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Yeah that's why family farms were crushed. The patriarch dies and the family can't pay the death taxes. Saw the same thing with an expensive piece of property where I worked. The family couldn't afford the taxes which were millions of dollars. Selling became hard as well and it languished for some time.PurpleThrobber said:
So you're moving the goalpost to say "the Estate" or "your heirs" will be taxed. BULLSHIT.2001400ex said:
You won't be taxed when you die. And the estate tax. The overwhelming majority of the amount that is taxed is unrealized capital gains that hasn't been taxed yet.PurpleThrobber said:HHusky said:
I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!Sledog said:
Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.
If that's not double taxation, what is it?
Fucking bullshit. It's a money grab instead of addressing the core issues of government overspending and waste.
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Word.Sledog said:
Yeah that's why family farms were crushed. The patriarch dies and the family can't pay the death taxes. Saw the same thing with an expensive piece of property where I worked. The family couldn't afford the taxes which were millions of dollars. Selling became hard as well and it languished for some time.PurpleThrobber said:
So you're moving the goalpost to say "the Estate" or "your heirs" will be taxed. BULLSHIT.2001400ex said:
You won't be taxed when you die. And the estate tax. The overwhelming majority of the amount that is taxed is unrealized capital gains that hasn't been taxed yet.PurpleThrobber said:HHusky said:
I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!Sledog said:
Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.
If that's not double taxation, what is it?
Fucking bullshit. It's a money grab instead of addressing the core issues of government overspending and waste.
It's just a re-distribution of wealth. The rich will get richer land-grabbing real property and the poor just get enabled another generation with promises/freebies.
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You or your heirs pay.PurpleThrobber said:HHusky said:
I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!Sledog said:
Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.
If that's not double taxation, what is it?
It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
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I love this legend.Sledog said:
Yeah that's why family farms were crushed. The patriarch dies and the family can't pay the death taxes. Saw the same thing with an expensive piece of property where I worked. The family couldn't afford the taxes which were millions of dollars. Selling became hard as well and it languished for some time.PurpleThrobber said:
So you're moving the goalpost to say "the Estate" or "your heirs" will be taxed. BULLSHIT.2001400ex said:
You won't be taxed when you die. And the estate tax. The overwhelming majority of the amount that is taxed is unrealized capital gains that hasn't been taxed yet.PurpleThrobber said:HHusky said:
I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!Sledog said:
Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.
If that's not double taxation, what is it?
Fucking bullshit. It's a money grab instead of addressing the core issues of government overspending and waste. -
Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.dflea said:
You or your heirs pay.PurpleThrobber said:HHusky said:
I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!Sledog said:
Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.
If that's not double taxation, what is it?
It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.
For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it. -
I'm not a big fan of billions being left to heirs. Of course, nobody is lined up to leave me a billion dollars.creepycoug said:
Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.dflea said:
You or your heirs pay.PurpleThrobber said:HHusky said:
I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!Sledog said:
Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.
If that's not double taxation, what is it?
It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.
For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
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It’s only a legend in your closed mind.HHusky said:
I love this legend.Sledog said:
Yeah that's why family farms were crushed. The patriarch dies and the family can't pay the death taxes. Saw the same thing with an expensive piece of property where I worked. The family couldn't afford the taxes which were millions of dollars. Selling became hard as well and it languished for some time.PurpleThrobber said:
So you're moving the goalpost to say "the Estate" or "your heirs" will be taxed. BULLSHIT.2001400ex said:
You won't be taxed when you die. And the estate tax. The overwhelming majority of the amount that is taxed is unrealized capital gains that hasn't been taxed yet.PurpleThrobber said:HHusky said:
I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!Sledog said:
Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.
If that's not double taxation, what is it?
Fucking bullshit. It's a money grab instead of addressing the core issues of government overspending and waste. -
There is an interesting argument against family dynasties. You don't want to promote creating a class of ne'er do well do nothings. But giving the next gen. a good leg up is part of the prize for a lot of people.dflea said:
I'm not a big fan of billions being left to heirs. Of course, nobody is lined up to leave me a billion dollars.creepycoug said:
Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.dflea said:
You or your heirs pay.PurpleThrobber said:HHusky said:
I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!Sledog said:
Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.
If that's not double taxation, what is it?
It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.
For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it. -
The first $11+ million is excluded. That’s a bit of a leg up. Bully for all of you leaving more than that.creepycoug said:
There is an interesting argument against family dynasties. You don't want to promote creating a class of ne'er do well do nothings. But giving the next gen. a good leg up is part of the prize for a lot of people.dflea said:
I'm not a big fan of billions being left to heirs. Of course, nobody is lined up to leave me a billion dollars.creepycoug said:
Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.dflea said:
You or your heirs pay.PurpleThrobber said:HHusky said:
I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!Sledog said:
Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.HHusky said:Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.
Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.
If that's not double taxation, what is it?
It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.
For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
