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  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,673 Swaye's Wigwam
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,655 Standard Supporter

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    He wants to spend your money on all his free shit. Not his!
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,642
    edited February 2019

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,459 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    No one is stopping you from sending more money in
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,655 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2019
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    All of it! Oh and your life is forfeit and you are owned by the state. HTH
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,778 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    It's OUR money and when he dies, WE want it back.

    If any of you has a realistic worry about leaving an estate subject to federal estate taxes, and your kids have student loan debt, you’re worried about the wrong stuff.
    only @thechatch
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,642
    edited February 2019
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    He wants to spend your money on all his free shit. Not his!

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    No one is stopping you from sending more money in
    I'm not willing to subsidize you rich folk more than I already do.

    And can someone tell me what "free shit" I get that Sled doesn't get?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,642
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    All of it! Oh and your life is forfeit and you are owned by the state. HTH
    And in Sled's defense, just because he's paranoid, that doesn't prove the government isn't out to get him.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,655 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2019
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    All of it! Oh and your life is forfeit and you are owned by the state. HTH
    And in Sled's defense, just because he's paranoid, that doesn't prove the government isn't out to get him.
    I'm not paranoid. I carry a gun all the time. Nothing to be paranoid about. I control the space around me. If I have a rifle I control everything I can see. So no I'm not paranoid at all.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,642
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    All of it! Oh and your life is forfeit and you are owned by the state. HTH
    And in Sled's defense, just because he's paranoid, that doesn't prove the government isn't out to get him.
    I'm not paranoid. I carry a gun all the time. Nothing to be paranoid about.
    'Murica! Fuck yeah!
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,655 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    All of it! Oh and your life is forfeit and you are owned by the state. HTH
    And in Sled's defense, just because he's paranoid, that doesn't prove the government isn't out to get him.
    I'm not paranoid. I carry a gun all the time. Nothing to be paranoid about.
    'Murica! Fuck yeah!
    Hell yeah!
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,642
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    All of it! Oh and your life is forfeit and you are owned by the state. HTH
    And in Sled's defense, just because he's paranoid, that doesn't prove the government isn't out to get him.
    I'm not paranoid. I carry a gun all the time. Nothing to be paranoid about.
    'Murica! Fuck yeah!
    Hell yeah!
    And it's just ridiculous to be concerned that someone with Sled's perceptiveness and faculties is wandering among us armed to the teeth.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,430 Founders Club

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    What's the 'REAL ISSUE"? That some people work hard, innovate, create products and services the market appreciates and they are then compensated for those efforts?

    So that at their death, some schlock bureaucrat redistributes said compensation/wealth on an arbitrary percentage the state deems necessary to support their wasteful spending and corruption?

    Fuck that.


    I don't talk much on this forum because you seem to have things well in hand.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,430 Founders Club

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    FREE PUB (in the picture)
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,970 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    FREE PUB (in the picture)
    This was kind of an early version of blackface.

    Can I send you like $0.14 in white guilt reparations?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,655 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2019
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    All of it! Oh and your life is forfeit and you are owned by the state. HTH
    And in Sled's defense, just because he's paranoid, that doesn't prove the government isn't out to get him.
    I'm not paranoid. I carry a gun all the time. Nothing to be paranoid about.
    'Murica! Fuck yeah!
    Hell yeah!
    And it's just ridiculous to be concerned that someone with Sled's perceptiveness and faculties is wandering among us armed to the teeth.
    Obviously you haven't had people try and kill you. I have. I fix those kind of problems. Permanently.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,642
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    All of it! Oh and your life is forfeit and you are owned by the state. HTH
    And in Sled's defense, just because he's paranoid, that doesn't prove the government isn't out to get him.
    I'm not paranoid. I carry a gun all the time. Nothing to be paranoid about.
    'Murica! Fuck yeah!
    Hell yeah!
    And it's just ridiculous to be concerned that someone with Sled's perceptiveness and faculties is wandering among us armed to the teeth.
    Obviously you haven't had people try and kill you. I have. I fix those kind of problems. Permanently.
    I guess I’m just not as abrasive as you are.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,655 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    All of it! Oh and your life is forfeit and you are owned by the state. HTH
    And in Sled's defense, just because he's paranoid, that doesn't prove the government isn't out to get him.
    I'm not paranoid. I carry a gun all the time. Nothing to be paranoid about.
    'Murica! Fuck yeah!
    Hell yeah!
    And it's just ridiculous to be concerned that someone with Sled's perceptiveness and faculties is wandering among us armed to the teeth.
    Obviously you haven't had people try and kill you. I have. I fix those kind of problems. Permanently.
    I guess I’m just not as abrasive as you are.
    Yeah, that's it.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,673 Swaye's Wigwam
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    He wants to spend your money on all his free shit. Not his!

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    No one is stopping you from sending more money in
    I'm not willing to subsidize you rich folk more than I already do.

    And can someone tell me what "free shit" I get that Sled doesn't get?
    You don't have to send it to the state so no rich people need be involved. I know charity is a hard concept for a statist to grasp.

    From each according to their ability. To each according to their need comrade.

    Should probably forgo your next family vacation and instead donate to a noble cause. One of my personal favorites is Teachers Without Borders.

    Start practicing or GTFO with trying to force others to first.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,642
    edited February 2019

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    He wants to spend your money on all his free shit. Not his!

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    No one is stopping you from sending more money in
    I'm not willing to subsidize you rich folk more than I already do.

    And can someone tell me what "free shit" I get that Sled doesn't get?
    You don't have to send it to the state so no rich people need be involved. I know charity is a hard concept for a statist to grasp.

    From each according to their ability. To each according to their need comrade.

    Should probably forgo your next family vacation and instead donate to a noble cause. One of my personal favorites is Teachers Without Borders.

    Start practicing or GTFO with trying to force others to first.
    We give money to charity. I said that already. We did it completely unaware that it makes us socialists. I am glad to learn that I’m now entitled to advocate for raising taxes though.
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