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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,831 Founders Club

    This is the fact check on prior use of emergencies. Contrary to the bullshit argued above by Race and others, there is no similar precedent in the US.

    https://apnews.com/03d60f47b89d49139d948fec0deeadaf

    What bullshit

    I listed the 28 active ones from CNN

    Take it up with them
    You don't have to read much of the article. The main point is that prior presidents did not declare national emergencies for projects Congress won't fund. There is no precedent for that, and it's a flagrant constitutional violation.

    As anyone with half a brain can see.
    That's a different point than saying I posted bullshit. I posted the actual evidence of the national emergencies. The reader can decide

  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    edited February 2019

    This is the fact check on prior use of emergencies. Contrary to the bullshit argued above by Race and others, there is no similar precedent in the US.

    https://apnews.com/03d60f47b89d49139d948fec0deeadaf

    What bullshit

    I listed the 28 active ones from CNN

    Take it up with them
    You don't have to read much of the article. The main point is that prior presidents did not declare national emergencies for projects Congress won't fund. There is no precedent for that, and it's a flagrant constitutional violation.

    As anyone with half a brain can see.
    That's a different point than saying I posted bullshit. I posted the actual evidence of the national emergencies. The reader can decide

    You're hairsplitting. By posting that list, you implied "everybody is doing it" and national emergencies are the norm.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Dude61 said:

    This is the fact check on prior use of emergencies. Contrary to the bullshit argued above by Race and others, there is no similar precedent in the US.

    https://apnews.com/03d60f47b89d49139d948fec0deeadaf

    What bullshit

    I listed the 28 active ones from CNN

    Take it up with them
    You don't have to read much of the article. The main point is that prior presidents did not declare national emergencies for projects Congress won't fund. There is no precedent for that, and it's a flagrant constitutional violation.

    As anyone with half a brain can see.
    Since 2001 POTUS have used NE to appropriate funds 18 times.
    huh?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    An open border certainly qualifies to people that love the country

    So not you H

    We’ve got an open border? Tell us another one.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    This is the fact check on prior use of emergencies. Contrary to the bullshit argued above by Race and others, there is no similar precedent in the US.

    https://apnews.com/03d60f47b89d49139d948fec0deeadaf

    What bullshit

    I listed the 28 active ones from CNN

    Take it up with them
    You don't have to read much of the article. The main point is that prior presidents did not declare national emergencies for projects Congress won't fund. There is no precedent for that, and it's a flagrant constitutional violation.

    As anyone with half a brain can see.
    That's a different point than saying I posted bullshit. I posted the actual evidence of the national emergencies. The reader can decide

    Yes and which one of those in equivalent or setting precedent to what Trump is doing now?
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    We’ve never had a Government Coup taking down an elected President before now, either.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,831 Founders Club

    This is the fact check on prior use of emergencies. Contrary to the bullshit argued above by Race and others, there is no similar precedent in the US.

    https://apnews.com/03d60f47b89d49139d948fec0deeadaf

    What bullshit

    I listed the 28 active ones from CNN

    Take it up with them
    You don't have to read much of the article. The main point is that prior presidents did not declare national emergencies for projects Congress won't fund. There is no precedent for that, and it's a flagrant constitutional violation.

    As anyone with half a brain can see.
    That's a different point than saying I posted bullshit. I posted the actual evidence of the national emergencies. The reader can decide

    You're hairsplitting. By posting that list, you implied "everybody is doing it" and national emergencies are the norm.
    I didn't imply anything. You seem upset. Were you this upset about the other 31?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    edited February 2019

    We’ve never had a Government Coup taking down an elected President before now, either.

    Do you remember
    Your President Nixon
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,831 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    This is the fact check on prior use of emergencies. Contrary to the bullshit argued above by Race and others, there is no similar precedent in the US.

    https://apnews.com/03d60f47b89d49139d948fec0deeadaf

    What bullshit

    I listed the 28 active ones from CNN

    Take it up with them
    You don't have to read much of the article. The main point is that prior presidents did not declare national emergencies for projects Congress won't fund. There is no precedent for that, and it's a flagrant constitutional violation.

    As anyone with half a brain can see.
    That's a different point than saying I posted bullshit. I posted the actual evidence of the national emergencies. The reader can decide

    Yes and which one of those in equivalent or setting precedent to what Trump is doing now?
    And what was the precedent for the other 31?

    Who cares? You don't want a wall. I do. Cry some more
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037

    We’ve never had a Government Coup taking down an elected President before now, either.

    IDRGAF about the wall. the $ is irrelevant. the rhetoric for it is a bit unfortunate and overblown, but if it makes people happy, fucking build it so we? can move on.

    but this is a quick dodge. there's no fucking coup; that's about as dramatic as people threatening to leave the country if Trump's election stood up. and, it's not relevant to the issue being discussed. I thought we? didn't like but but but. that's a but but but of the first order.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Fat people are the emergency
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254
    Congress has specifically granted the President express statutory authority to make this declaration.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037
    Dude61 said:

    Congress has specifically granted the President express statutory authority to make this declaration.

    Sounds like an emergency.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    We’ve never had a Government Coup taking down an elected President before now, either.

    IDRGAF about the wall. the $ is irrelevant. the rhetoric for it is a bit unfortunate and overblown, but if it makes people happy, fucking build it so we? can move on.

    but this is a quick dodge. there's no fucking coup; that's about as dramatic as people threatening to leave the country if Trump's election stood up. and, it's not relevant to the issue being discussed. I thought we? didn't like but but but. that's a but but but of the first order.
    Nailed it
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    We’ve never had a Government Coup taking down an elected President before now, either.

    Wut?

    Here’s John Boehner, the likely speaker if Republicans take the House, offering his plans for Obama’s agenda: “We're going to do everything — and I mean everything we can do — to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell summed up his plan to National Journal: “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Obtuse, a liar and stupid.

    Got it!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,831 Founders Club
    Join me in the call for hondo's stupid friends to post here instead
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,831 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    An open border certainly qualifies to people that love the country

    So not you H

    We’ve got an open border? Tell us another one.
    CONCORD, N.H. -- Democratic presidential contender Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand says she could possibly support a call by former Rep. Beto O’Rourke of Texas to tear down parts of the existing U.S.-Mexico border wall.

    “I’d have to ask folks in that part of the country to see whether the fencing that exists today is helpful or unhelpful,” the senator from New York told Fox News on Friday, as she was campaigning in the first-in-the-nation presidential primary state of New Hampshire.

    “I could look at it and see which part he means and why, and if it makes sense, I could support it,” Gillibrand added.

    O'ROURKE CALLS FOR TEARING DOWN WALL

    O’Rourke, who’s seriously mulling a White House bid of his own, said Thursday in an interview with NBC News that he’d “absolutely … take the wall down," referring to the barrier by El Paso, Texas.

    O’Rourke, who came close to upsetting GOP Sen. Ted Cruz in last November’s Senate election in Texas, argued that the existing 600 miles of wall and fencing along the 2,000-mile border have “not in any demonstrable way made us safer.”
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    HHusky said:

    An open border certainly qualifies to people that love the country

    So not you H

    We’ve got an open border? Tell us another one.
    CONCORD, N.H. -- Democratic presidential contender Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand says she could possibly support a call by former Rep. Beto O’Rourke of Texas to tear down parts of the existing U.S.-Mexico border wall.

    “I’d have to ask folks in that part of the country to see whether the fencing that exists today is helpful or unhelpful,” the senator from New York told Fox News on Friday, as she was campaigning in the first-in-the-nation presidential primary state of New Hampshire.

    “I could look at it and see which part he means and why, and if it makes sense, I could support it,” Gillibrand added.

    O'ROURKE CALLS FOR TEARING DOWN WALL

    O’Rourke, who’s seriously mulling a White House bid of his own, said Thursday in an interview with NBC News that he’d “absolutely … take the wall down," referring to the barrier by El Paso, Texas.

    O’Rourke, who came close to upsetting GOP Sen. Ted Cruz in last November’s Senate election in Texas, argued that the existing 600 miles of wall and fencing along the 2,000-mile border have “not in any demonstrable way made us safer.”
    I guess you think this is somehow supportive of your false claim that we have open borders (?).
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,831 Founders Club
    Of course it is. Democrats want to tear down what is there and they blocked finishing security along the whole border.

    Stop lying your team is now quite open about wanting to continue open borders
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Why are Democrats afraid to own their desire for Open Borders?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,831 Founders Club

    Why are Democrats afraid to own their desire for Open Borders?

    Same reason hondo wont own the GND. They lie

    If it's so popular you don't have to lie
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Why are Democrats afraid to own their desire for Open Borders?

    Same reason hondo wont own the GND. They lie

    If it's so popular you don't have to lie
    Who is lying?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    Of course it is. Democrats want to tear down what is there and they blocked finishing security along the whole border.

    Stop lying your team is now quite open about wanting to continue open borders

    Perhaps the problem is that you don’t know what “open borders” means.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Why are Democrats afraid to own their desire for Open Borders?

    Same reason hondo wont own the GND. They lie

    If it's so popular you don't have to lie
    And calling you out for lying about the GND is not not owning it. HTH
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    Why are Democrats afraid to own their desire for Open Borders?


    Why are rock ribbed “conservatives” so fucking stupid, and not conservative to boot?
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    edited February 2019
    You shouldn't have any trouble explaining it and selling it to the masses then.

    Why not try?

    Why deny?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037

    We’ve never had a Government Coup taking down an elected President before now, either.

    IDRGAF about the wall. the $ is irrelevant. the rhetoric for it is a bit unfortunate and overblown, but if it makes people happy, fucking build it so we? can move on.

    but this is a quick dodge. there's no fucking coup; that's about as dramatic as people threatening to leave the country if Trump's election stood up. and, it's not relevant to the issue being discussed. I thought we? didn't like but but but. that's a but but but of the first order.
    it may be a dodge but McCabe admitted the coup to sell a book

    Trust me if it was anyone other than Trump the left and "moderates" like you would be up in arms

    You've really gone full-time with this. Predicting what I would or wouldn't do is a fool's errand. I've been waiting to see what, if anything, Bueller has, and I've been guarded in my thoughts on the investigation, saying over and over I don't know what's there. Because, like everyone, I don't.

    I've taken an overall pretty even-keel with Donnie, posting where I think he's done well and where I think he's a fish dick. I don't think the wall is a big deal. Build it, don't build it, IDRGAF. I don't like the rhetoric behind it; sue me.

    I'm not a political hero fanboy. 85% of the Tug can't get Trumpy's cock out of their mouths. There is nobody of any political stripe that inspires me like that. I supported Romney for sound reasons, not populist hysteria, so if there'd been inquiry into wrongdoing, I'd have LIPO'd all the way. My defenses of Obama been very limited.

    So people on the other side of the political spectrum go after your guy and liberals have become sandy and vagy. The House impeached Clinton for lying about stupid, albeit embarrassing, shit.