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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    #6. Did the people in Alaska even get a chance to vote on it?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    LebamDawg said:

    JFC - there are 31 active National Emergencies in effect. There is only 1 or 2 of these that dealt with the US - the rest are knee jerk reactions I think to appease some loud mouth (could be an org, individual, assn, or a ranking member of Congress) and his special cause.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_in_the_United_States

    Yes Wikipedia is my source

    That was the point of my OP and link but I don't follow links either

    The honest truth is

    Trump declares one and the usual suspects are against it. He needs to do one for opiods!!! Except he did but it was a HEALTH emergency.

    My truth is I want a fucking wall and at this point if a national emergency gets it then fine

    They do seem to be useless as a whole
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    When I don’t get my way, it’s a fucking emergency!
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,146 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    When I don’t get my way, it’s a fucking emergency!

    No need for speed dial Marcus...it's only 3 digits
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,829 Founders Club
    An open border certainly qualifies to people that love the country

    So not you H
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    An open border certainly qualifies to people that love the country

    So not you H

    Race, why didn't you scream about a border wall under Obama? What changed that this is now an emergency?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,726 Standard Supporter
    So like many emergency orders this one can be:

    Blocking Property or Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of USA.

    Blocking Property or Persons Undermining the Sovereignty of the USA or Its Democratic Processes and Institutions

    Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations

    Blocking Assets and Prohibiting Transactions with Significant Narcotics Traffickers

    Blocking Property of Certain Persons and persons Contributing to drug crime in the USA

    Wow change a word or two here and there and it's pretty simple. They all seemed like good reasons for past emergencies. I think it'll work now.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,829 Founders Club
    Scream? What are you talking about?

    We built 600 miles of wall under Obama and Bush

    Are you really this stupid?
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    edited February 2019
    The entire "emergency" argument is fake on the simple argument that 1) if it were an emergency, it would have been declared an emergency 20 years ago. Since then, illegal crossings have decreased. And 2), Trump is flagrantly contradicting Congress's budget. The president can NOT make his own budget and his own laws.

    This is a flagrant abuse of power, a tyrannical move and exactly what the Founders warned about in the Federalist Papers.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,146 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    An open border certainly qualifies to people that love the country

    So not you H

    Race, why didn't you scream about a border wall under Obama? What changed that this is now an emergency?
    Maybe because all the RATs sang his same tune about how much we needed to build the wall back then dipshit?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Scream? What are you talking about?

    We built 600 miles of wall under Obama and Bush

    Are you really this stupid?

    That stupid and more...
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Let Trump defend his national emergency in the courts.

    It will be interesting to hear the WH attorneys argue today’s comment from fat boy (6’3” / 243 lbs 😂) that “he didn’t need to” declare a national emergency but did so to move faster.

    Maybe the obese orange fuck will also challenge California sanctuary law at the same time? Maybe he would if he wasn’t a fat fucking pussy.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,042
    LebamDawg said:

    Trump rambled on and on at the presser - the only part I liked was Acosta asking him a question - I laffed. other than that, YAWN!!

    I really am not sure which is worse, the Trumpster or the Press

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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Let Trump defend his national emergency in the courts.

    It will be interesting to hear the WH attorneys argue today’s comment from fat boy (6’3” / 243 lbs 😂) that “he didn’t need to” declare a national emergency but did so to move faster.

    Maybe the obese orange fuck will also challenge California sanctuary law at the same time? Maybe he would if he wasn’t a fat fucking pussy.

    You know a guy that runs and hides like a Kunt on an anonymous message board when he is asked to back up his mouth should probably be a little more circumspect about calling people pussies.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,829 Founders Club
    Yes lets have a Judicial Dictatorship

    Who needs Congress or the Chief Executive
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    edited February 2019
    SFGbob said:

    Let Trump defend his national emergency in the courts.

    It will be interesting to hear the WH attorneys argue today’s comment from fat boy (6’3” / 243 lbs 😂) that “he didn’t need to” declare a national emergency but did so to move faster.

    Maybe the obese orange fuck will also challenge California sanctuary law at the same time? Maybe he would if he wasn’t a fat fucking pussy.

    You know a guy that runs and hides like a Kunt on an anonymous message board when he is asked to back up his mouth should probably be a little more circumspect about calling people pussies.
    Agree. Surprised you are still here after your lies about the legal status of California sanctuary law. You are a fucking imbecile however, so no too surprising really.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Scream? What are you talking about?

    We built 600 miles of wall under Obama and Bush

    Are you really this stupid?

    That's my point. You screamed Obama was a dictator (remember the phone and pen comment you'd regurgitate?). Said nothing about a wall. You had zero idea any part of any wall was built under Obama until a month ago. But now it's an emergency. And you are ok with a president taking action by himself.

    What changed?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,829 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Scream? What are you talking about?

    We built 600 miles of wall under Obama and Bush

    Are you really this stupid?

    That's my point. You screamed Obama was a dictator (remember the phone and pen comment you'd regurgitate?). Said nothing about a wall. You had zero idea any part of any wall was built under Obama until a month ago. But now it's an emergency. And you are ok with a president taking action by himself.

    What changed?
    Your just making shit up. Its pathetic
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,726 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Scream? What are you talking about?

    We built 600 miles of wall under Obama and Bush

    Are you really this stupid?

    That's my point. You screamed Obama was a dictator (remember the phone and pen comment you'd regurgitate?). Said nothing about a wall. You had zero idea any part of any wall was built under Obama until a month ago. But now it's an emergency. And you are ok with a president taking action by himself.

    What changed?
    #resist

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Scream? What are you talking about?

    We built 600 miles of wall under Obama and Bush

    Are you really this stupid?

    That's my point. You screamed Obama was a dictator (remember the phone and pen comment you'd regurgitate?). Said nothing about a wall. You had zero idea any part of any wall was built under Obama until a month ago. But now it's an emergency. And you are ok with a president taking action by himself.

    What changed?
    Your just making shit up. Its pathetic
    Lol right. Race hates facts.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036

    An open border certainly qualifies to people that love the country

    So not you H

    Why do people hate America?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036

    Yes lets have a Judicial Dictatorship

    Who needs Congress or the Chief Executive

    Well, if that chica (hi @Swaye ) on the court, who is half your age, bites it in the near term, you?'ll have the right court for it.
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    This is the fact check on prior use of emergencies. Contrary to the bullshit argued above by Race and others, there is no similar precedent in the US.

    https://apnews.com/03d60f47b89d49139d948fec0deeadaf
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,829 Founders Club

    This is the fact check on prior use of emergencies. Contrary to the bullshit argued above by Race and others, there is no similar precedent in the US.

    https://apnews.com/03d60f47b89d49139d948fec0deeadaf

    What bullshit

    I listed the 28 active ones from CNN

    Take it up with them
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904

    This is the fact check on prior use of emergencies. Contrary to the bullshit argued above by Race and others, there is no similar precedent in the US.

    https://apnews.com/03d60f47b89d49139d948fec0deeadaf

    What bullshit

    I listed the 28 active ones from CNN

    Take it up with them
    You don't have to read much of the article. The main point is that prior presidents did not declare national emergencies for projects Congress won't fund. There is no precedent for that, and it's a flagrant constitutional violation.

    As anyone with half a brain can see.
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254
    edited February 2019

    This is the fact check on prior use of emergencies. Contrary to the bullshit argued above by Race and others, there is no similar precedent in the US.

    https://apnews.com/03d60f47b89d49139d948fec0deeadaf

    What bullshit

    I listed the 28 active ones from CNN

    Take it up with them
    You don't have to read much of the article. The main point is that prior presidents did not declare national emergencies for projects Congress won't fund. There is no precedent for that, and it's a flagrant constitutional violation.

    As anyone with half a brain can see.
    Since 2001 POTUS have used NE to appropriate funds 18 times.