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Fair point on what he left in the DB ranks upon his departure. He actually recruited really well for us, but the early departures of guys like Kelly and Enewally definitely hurt the roster he was putting together and negated those gains.FremontTroll said:
Strange take to lead with revisionist history.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Now that’s some serious revisionist history. Heyward was a very good DB coach. Trufant, Parker, and Glenn all developed into All Conference caliber players under him. Those secondaries were good.chuck said:
I thought duck fans were overrating him, dramatically in some cases. I still think this hurts you because I don't think much of Heyward. He's average as a DB coach. He was at UW anyways.greenblood said:
I think he’s a great coach. But let’s talk about revisionist history. About 90% of you fucksticks couldn’t help but comment how average Leavitt was. Now he’s gone all of a sudden you guys think he’s Buddy Ryan. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.HuskyJW said:
You need to be ashamed of yourselfgreenblood said:In all honesty it’s probably for the best. Leavitt is a really good defensive coordinator. However, he wasn’t happy he didn’t get the HC job after Taggart. He also stopped recruiting. There was a lot of friction and you really can’t have that in a staff. But, he will be missed and Hayward better step up to the plate. I hate that this is coming off as quookish because I’m not WDWHA by any means, but you can’t have a toxic coaching staff and be successful. Leavitt brought us from garbage to respectability defensively. We? need to keep it going.
Of course Lake came along and blew him out of the water, and then showed us what elite DB play looks like. But that doesn’t mean Heyward isn’t a very good position coach in his own right. He also has the body of work that suggests he’s ready to move to a DC position, though I’m not sure I’d be thrilled that we didn’t go pursue someone with DC experience if I’m a duck fan.
-Trufant played only one year under Heyward.
-Glenn also played one year under Heyward, was mediocre, and was not all-Pac 12. He was Honorable Mention.
-Parker was OK but also only Honorable Mention.
-You neglected to mention his best player, Marcus Peters.
-Heyward was touted as a good recruiter at the time but only 1 out of his 7 recruits ever contributed anything (1 out of 8 if you count lavon washington in 2014.)
-That 1 was of course Kevin King who looked like nothing until Lake developed him which surely wouldn't have happened under Sark and Heyward.
-Most significantly of all- he left the cupboard completely bare. Lake had 3 freshman starting alongside Marcus Peters by game two of 2014. All 3 of which were recruited in the two months after CP was hired and wouldn't have been on a Sark/Heyward roster.
However, it’s also worth mentioning that he inherited a Demetrice Martin secondary that was instrumental to us having the 116th best pass defense in the country in 2011. We’re talking Baylor bowl game, worst secondary in school history bad. And in his two years here our pass defense was 23rd and 61st in the nation. Guys like Trufant and Glenn, who both had breakthrough senior years, were pretty key players in that turnaround. Given the absolute turd that Heyward took over for and the quick results he was able to squeeze out, I would absolutely grade him out as somewhere in the neighborhood of good. -
This makes me optimistic...thanksStrongArmCobra said:Big loss for Oregon IMO. Also not a good look for Cristobal. If 1.7 mil isn't enough to keep Leavitt around and happy, then Cristobal must be a huge douche who's unbearable to work with. He's like the anti-Helton. Equally incompetent but instead of being a dumb, nice guy he's a dumb, meat-head asshole. Feels like Oregon is still a dumpster fire but the presence of Herbert is keeping the fire at a smolder, for now. When Herbert's gone the shit will hit the fan.
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Where did I say he was an upgrade you horses ass? I said Heyward needs to prove himself, and that was the extent of my assessment. My point is that your stupid ass is getting a boner over a team losing a DC that had them finish 9th and 10th in the Pac 12 in passing and rushing defense last season. And when I say great coach, I’m comparing him to the two defensive coordinators before him. Now you can kindly go fuck yourselfHuskyJW said:
You think he is a great coachgreenblood said:
I think he’s a great coach. But let’s talk about revisionist history. About 90% of you fucksticks couldn’t help but comment how average Leavitt was. Now he’s gone all of a sudden you guys think he’s Buddy Ryan. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.HuskyJW said:
You need to be ashamed of yourselfgreenblood said:In all honesty it’s probably for the best. Leavitt is a really good defensive coordinator. However, he wasn’t happy he didn’t get the HC job after Taggart. He also stopped recruiting. There was a lot of friction and you really can’t have that in a staff. But, he will be missed and Hayward better step up to the plate. I hate that this is coming off as quookish because I’m not WDWHA by any means, but you can’t have a toxic coaching staff and be successful. Leavitt brought us from garbage to respectability defensively. We? need to keep it going.
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This is pretty big. Leavitt's a good DC. Probably not as great as people wanted to argue he was when he left Colorado, but well above average. Hayward is a complete unknown. Maybe he'll be great. I wouldn't bet on it though.
My favorite thing about this thread is all the UO fans saying "Leavitt didn't get any recruits this year". How many coordinators are major players in recruiting? They exist (Tosh Lupoi, Jimmy Lake), but the Justin Wilcox/Pete Kwiatkowski guys who pull almost no one are just as common, if not moreso.
You don't fire a great coordinator because he isn't recruiting.
Strange move for Oregon IMO. Hard to see it paying off for them but I'll LIFPO. -
well, if there’s one thing I know, it’s tuff to win a Natty with a divided coaching staff and this is Herberts last season.
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Schedule shows neutral site game vs. Auburn, at Stanford, at UW, Cuog, at USC, and at ASU.sarktastic said:well, if there’s one thing I know, it’s tuff to win a Natty with a divided coaching staff and this is Herberts last season.
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USC might not even be bowl eligible again next year. I wouldn’t put them on the list, but shit, Oregon did lose at Zona last year...whatshouldicareabout said:
Schedule shows neutral site game vs. Auburn, at Stanford, at UW, Cuog, at USC, and at ASU.sarktastic said:well, if there’s one thing I know, it’s tuff to win a Natty with a divided coaching staff and this is Herberts last season.
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Now you are just bald face lying to cover your Quookish attitude.greenblood said:
Where did I say he was an upgrade you horses ass? I said Heyward needs to prove himself, and that was the extent of my assessment. My point is that your stupid ass is getting a boner over a team losing a DC that had them finish 9th and 10th in the Pac 12 in passing and rushing defense last season. And when I say great coach, I’m comparing him to the two defensive coordinators before him. Now you can kindly go fuck yourselfHuskyJW said:
You think he is a great coachgreenblood said:
I think he’s a great coach. But let’s talk about revisionist history. About 90% of you fucksticks couldn’t help but comment how average Leavitt was. Now he’s gone all of a sudden you guys think he’s Buddy Ryan. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.HuskyJW said:
You need to be ashamed of yourselfgreenblood said:In all honesty it’s probably for the best. Leavitt is a really good defensive coordinator. However, he wasn’t happy he didn’t get the HC job after Taggart. He also stopped recruiting. There was a lot of friction and you really can’t have that in a staff. But, he will be missed and Hayward better step up to the plate. I hate that this is coming off as quookish because I’m not WDWHA by any means, but you can’t have a toxic coaching staff and be successful. Leavitt brought us from garbage to respectability defensively. We? need to keep it going.
but Hayward is an upgrade and as never coached a defense in the history of his life. Go fuck yourself
Oregon was 8th in pass defense in the Pac 12 and 5th in rush yards per game.
https://stats.pac-12.com/sports/fball/2018-19/teams?sort=ptspgopp&r=0&pos=def -
Not taking Leavitt's salary and throwing it at DeRuyter (Cal DC) is Oregon promote from within bullshit fucking stupid.
DeRuyter had the 2nd best D in the conference with a bunch of try hard 2* whites. And Cal can't afford to pay him shit. But sure, promote a guy with 0 experience. Why take the risk when you can have a sure thing. -
Thank the Green New Deal that Oregon wasn't smart enough to take this advicentxduck said:Not taking Leavitt's salary and throwing it at DeRuyter (Cal DC) is Oregon promote from within bullshit fucking stupid.
DeRuyter had the 2nd best D in the conference with a bunch of try hard 2* whites. And Cal can't afford to pay him shit. But sure, promote a guy with 0 experience. Why take the risk when you can have a sure thing.
