In all honesty it’s probably for the best. Leavitt is a really good defensive coordinator. However, he wasn’t happy he didn’t get the HC job after Taggart. He also stopped recruiting. There was a lot of friction and you really can’t have that in a staff. But, he will be missed and Hayward better step up to the plate. I hate that this is coming off as quookish because I’m not WDWHA by any means, but you can’t have a toxic coaching staff and be successful. Leavitt brought us from garbage to respectability defensively. We? need to keep it going.
You need to be ashamed of yourself
I think he’s a great coach. But let’s talk about revisionist history. About 90% of you fucksticks couldn’t help but comment how average Leavitt was. Now he’s gone all of a sudden you guys think he’s Buddy Ryan. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
I thought duck fans were overrating him, dramatically in some cases. I still think this hurts you because I don't think much of Heyward. He's average as a DB coach. He was at UW anyways.
Now that’s some serious revisionist history. Heyward was a very good DB coach. Trufant, Parker, and Glenn all developed into All Conference caliber players under him. Those secondaries were good.
Of course Lake came along and blew him out of the water, and then showed us what elite DB play looks like. But that doesn’t mean Heyward isn’t a very good position coach in his own right. He also has the body of work that suggests he’s ready to move to a DC position, though I’m not sure I’d be thrilled that we didn’t go pursue someone with DC experience if I’m a duck fan.
Strange take to lead with revisionist history.
-Trufant played only one year under Heyward. -Glenn also played one year under Heyward, was mediocre, and was not all-Pac 12. He was Honorable Mention. -Parker was OK but also only Honorable Mention. -You neglected to mention his best player, Marcus Peters. -Heyward was touted as a good recruiter at the time but only 1 out of his 7 recruits ever contributed anything (1 out of 8 if you count lavon washington in 2014.) -That 1 was of course Kevin King who looked like nothing until Lake developed him which surely wouldn't have happened under Sark and Heyward.
-Most significantly of all- he left the cupboard completely bare. Lake had 3 freshman starting alongside Marcus Peters by game two of 2014. All 3 of which were recruited in the two months after CP was hired and wouldn't have been on a Sark/Heyward roster.
Fair point on what he left in the DB ranks upon his departure. He actually recruited really well for us, but the early departures of guys like Kelly and Enewally definitely hurt the roster he was putting together and negated those gains.
However, it’s also worth mentioning that he inherited a Demetrice Martin secondary that was instrumental to us having the 116th best pass defense in the country in 2011. We’re talking Baylor bowl game, worst secondary in school history bad. And in his two years here our pass defense was 23rd and 61st in the nation. Guys like Trufant and Glenn, who both had breakthrough senior years, were pretty key players in that turnaround. Given the absolute turd that Heyward took over for and the quick results he was able to squeeze out, I would absolutely grade him out as somewhere in the neighborhood of good.
Big loss for Oregon IMO. Also not a good look for Cristobal. If 1.7 mil isn't enough to keep Leavitt around and happy, then Cristobal must be a huge douche who's unbearable to work with. He's like the anti-Helton. Equally incompetent but instead of being a dumb, nice guy he's a dumb, meat-head asshole. Feels like Oregon is still a dumpster fire but the presence of Herbert is keeping the fire at a smolder, for now. When Herbert's gone the shit will hit the fan.
In all honesty it’s probably for the best. Leavitt is a really good defensive coordinator. However, he wasn’t happy he didn’t get the HC job after Taggart. He also stopped recruiting. There was a lot of friction and you really can’t have that in a staff. But, he will be missed and Hayward better step up to the plate. I hate that this is coming off as quookish because I’m not WDWHA by any means, but you can’t have a toxic coaching staff and be successful. Leavitt brought us from garbage to respectability defensively. We? need to keep it going.
You need to be ashamed of yourself
I think he’s a great coach. But let’s talk about revisionist history. About 90% of you fucksticks couldn’t help but comment how average Leavitt was. Now he’s gone all of a sudden you guys think he’s Buddy Ryan. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
You think he is a great coach
but Hayward is an upgrade and as never coached a defense in the history of his life. Go fuck yourself
Where did I say he was an upgrade you horses ass? I said Heyward needs to prove himself, and that was the extent of my assessment. My point is that your stupid ass is getting a boner over a team losing a DC that had them finish 9th and 10th in the Pac 12 in passing and rushing defense last season. And when I say great coach, I’m comparing him to the two defensive coordinators before him. Now you can kindly go fuck yourself
This is pretty big. Leavitt's a good DC. Probably not as great as people wanted to argue he was when he left Colorado, but well above average. Hayward is a complete unknown. Maybe he'll be great. I wouldn't bet on it though.
My favorite thing about this thread is all the UO fans saying "Leavitt didn't get any recruits this year". How many coordinators are major players in recruiting? They exist (Tosh Lupoi, Jimmy Lake), but the Justin Wilcox/Pete Kwiatkowski guys who pull almost no one are just as common, if not moreso.
You don't fire a great coordinator because he isn't recruiting.
Strange move for Oregon IMO. Hard to see it paying off for them but I'll LIFPO.
In all honesty it’s probably for the best. Leavitt is a really good defensive coordinator. However, he wasn’t happy he didn’t get the HC job after Taggart. He also stopped recruiting. There was a lot of friction and you really can’t have that in a staff. But, he will be missed and Hayward better step up to the plate. I hate that this is coming off as quookish because I’m not WDWHA by any means, but you can’t have a toxic coaching staff and be successful. Leavitt brought us from garbage to respectability defensively. We? need to keep it going.
You need to be ashamed of yourself
I think he’s a great coach. But let’s talk about revisionist history. About 90% of you fucksticks couldn’t help but comment how average Leavitt was. Now he’s gone all of a sudden you guys think he’s Buddy Ryan. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
You think he is a great coach
but Hayward is an upgrade and as never coached a defense in the history of his life. Go fuck yourself
Where did I say he was an upgrade you horses ass? I said Heyward needs to prove himself, and that was the extent of my assessment. My point is that your stupid ass is getting a boner over a team losing a DC that had them finish 9th and 10th in the Pac 12 in passing and rushing defense last season. And when I say great coach, I’m comparing him to the two defensive coordinators before him. Now you can kindly go fuck yourself
Now you are just bald face lying to cover your Quookish attitude.
Oregon was 8th in pass defense in the Pac 12 and 5th in rush yards per game.
Not taking Leavitt's salary and throwing it at DeRuyter (Cal DC) is Oregon promote from within bullshit fucking stupid.
DeRuyter had the 2nd best D in the conference with a bunch of try hard 2* whites. And Cal can't afford to pay him shit. But sure, promote a guy with 0 experience. Why take the risk when you can have a sure thing.
Not taking Leavitt's salary and throwing it at DeRuyter (Cal DC) is Oregon promote from within bullshit fucking stupid.
DeRuyter had the 2nd best D in the conference with a bunch of try hard 2* whites. And Cal can't afford to pay him shit. But sure, promote a guy with 0 experience. Why take the risk when you can have a sure thing.
Thank the Green New Deal that Oregon wasn't smart enough to take this advice
In all honesty it’s probably for the best. Leavitt is a really good defensive coordinator. However, he wasn’t happy he didn’t get the HC job after Taggart. He also stopped recruiting. There was a lot of friction and you really can’t have that in a staff. But, he will be missed and Hayward better step up to the plate. I hate that this is coming off as quookish because I’m not WDWHA by any means, but you can’t have a toxic coaching staff and be successful. Leavitt brought us from garbage to respectability defensively. We? need to keep it going.
You need to be ashamed of yourself
I think he’s a great coach. But let’s talk about revisionist history. About 90% of you fucksticks couldn’t help but comment how average Leavitt was. Now he’s gone all of a sudden you guys think he’s Buddy Ryan. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
You think he is a great coach
but Hayward is an upgrade and as never coached a defense in the history of his life. Go fuck yourself
Where did I say he was an upgrade you horses ass? I said Heyward needs to prove himself, and that was the extent of my assessment. My point is that your stupid ass is getting a boner over a team losing a DC that had them finish 9th and 10th in the Pac 12 in passing and rushing defense last season. And when I say great coach, I’m comparing him to the two defensive coordinators before him. Now you can kindly go fuck yourself
Now you are just bald face lying to cover your Quookish attitude.
Oregon was 8th in pass defense in the Pac 12 and 5th in rush yards per game.
Oregon fans last week: Jim Leavitt with this talent is going to create a great defense.
Oregon fans now: Jim Leavitt wasn't even that good.
Washington fans last week: Oregon's defense sucks, Leavitt is overrated.
Washington fans now: LOL Oregon is fucked, Jim Leavitt is their best DC ever.
Both quooks and doogs are so predictable.
The writing on the wall has been there for a year. Leavitt was getting another year of that $1.7 million contract and hoping to bail for a HC job. He's obviously good at what he does, if he tries. Unfortunately, for him, no one wants an old man who choked a kid and can't recruit.
Is this a good thing? Who the fuck knows? Will Keith Heyward be a good DC? Who the fuck knows? But if Cristobal decided he wasn't going to put up with Leavitt's shit, this is one of his first major moves and he's either going to look really dumb or really smart.
Being a coordinator is 50% talent, 25% scheme/play calling, and 25% motivation. Heyward can recruit and motivate, the question is if he can do the technical shit. The word is that he kept taking over more of the defense from up in the box while Leavitt was acting like he's taking a heroin shit on the sideline.
Oregon fans last week: Jim Leavitt with this talent is going to create a great defense.
Oregon fans now: Jim Leavitt wasn't even that good.
Washington fans last week: Oregon's defense sucks, Leavitt is overrated.
Washington fans now: LOL Oregon is fucked, Jim Leavitt is their best DC ever.
Both quooks and doogs are so predictable.
The writing on the wall has been there for a year. Leavitt was getting another year of that $1.7 million contract and hoping to bail for a HC job. He's obviously good at what he does, if he tries. Unfortunately, for him, no one wants an old man who choked a kid and can't recruit.
Is this a good thing? Who the fuck knows? Will Keith Heyward be a good DC? Who the fuck knows? But if Cristobal decided he wasn't going to put up with Leavitt's shit, this is one of his first major moves and he's either going to look really dumb or really smart.
Being a coordinator is 50% talent, 25% scheme/play calling, and 25% motivation. Heyward can recruit and motivate, the question is if he can do the technical shit. The word is that he kept taking over more of the defense from up in the box while Leavitt was acting like he's taking a heroin shit on the sideline.
It's actually pretty depressing to see the human ego at work. Leavitt disqualified himself from ever being a HC again with his incident at USF. Everyone else knows it. He's the only one who doesn't (or refuses) to see it.
Oregon fans last week: Jim Leavitt with this talent is going to create a great defense.
Oregon fans now: Jim Leavitt wasn't even that good.
Washington fans last week: Oregon's defense sucks, Leavitt is overrated.
Washington fans now: LOL Oregon is fucked, Jim Leavitt is their best DC ever.
Both quooks and doogs are so predictable.
The writing on the wall has been there for a year. Leavitt was getting another year of that $1.7 million contract and hoping to bail for a HC job. He's obviously good at what he does, if he tries. Unfortunately, for him, no one wants an old man who choked a kid and can't recruit.
Is this a good thing? Who the fuck knows? Will Keith Heyward be a good DC? Who the fuck knows? But if Cristobal decided he wasn't going to put up with Leavitt's shit, this is one of his first major moves and he's either going to look really dumb or really smart.
Being a coordinator is 50% talent, 25% scheme/play calling, and 25% motivation. Heyward can recruit and motivate, the question is if he can do the technical shit. The word is that he kept taking over more of the defense from up in the box while Leavitt was acting like he's taking a heroin shit on the sideline.
It's actually pretty depressing to see the human ego at work. Leavitt disqualified himself from ever being a HC again with his incident at USF. Everyone else knows it. He's the only one who doesn't (or refuses) to see it.
If Leavitt was younger, had been a head coach in the past decade, or was REALLY good someone would hire him no matter how many walk-ons he choked. K-State and Texas Tech took a hard pass, and those programs have nothing to lose. If they thought Leavitt could win there no one in West Texas would give a fuck you hit some kid.
Urban Meyer could livestream himself mouth fucking a nun, taking breaks for hits from a meth pipe, and he could have a head coaching job tomorrow. Greg Schiano probably knew kids were being diddled and Tennessee still tried to hire him.
I'd rather Leavitt had stayed because after Pillows Pellum and that fatass Hoke he seemed like a genius. But if he was a genius he would have taken a few more years of his contract and retired to spend his time getting Pepsi enemas from his gold digger wife. Maybe use the talent that Heyward/Dennison/Williams brought in and put out a great defense and then maybe Miami of Ohio or someone could hire him as a head coach.
In all honesty it’s probably for the best. Leavitt is a really good defensive coordinator. However, he wasn’t happy he didn’t get the HC job after Taggart. He also stopped recruiting. There was a lot of friction and you really can’t have that in a staff. But, he will be missed and Hayward better step up to the plate. I hate that this is coming off as quookish because I’m not WDWHA by any means, but you can’t have a toxic coaching staff and be successful. Leavitt brought us from garbage to respectability defensively. We? need to keep it going.
You need to be ashamed of yourself
I think he’s a great coach. But let’s talk about revisionist history. About 90% of you fucksticks couldn’t help but comment how average Leavitt was. Now he’s gone all of a sudden you guys think he’s Buddy Ryan. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
You think he is a great coach
but Hayward is an upgrade and as never coached a defense in the history of his life. Go fuck yourself
Where did I say he was an upgrade you horses ass? I said Heyward needs to prove himself, and that was the extent of my assessment. My point is that your stupid ass is getting a boner over a team losing a DC that had them finish 9th and 10th in the Pac 12 in passing and rushing defense last season. And when I say great coach, I’m comparing him to the two defensive coordinators before him. Now you can kindly go fuck yourself
Now you are just bald face lying to cover your Quookish attitude.
Oregon was 8th in pass defense in the Pac 12 and 5th in rush yards per game.
I'm talking about conference games you buffoon. That's where you compare. Oregon had a cupcake OOC schedule which boosted their numbers. If you look at only conference games, they were 9th and 10th respectively. Now please LEAVE, you aren't yet ready for the big leagues.
In all honesty it’s probably for the best. Leavitt is a really good defensive coordinator. However, he wasn’t happy he didn’t get the HC job after Taggart. He also stopped recruiting. There was a lot of friction and you really can’t have that in a staff. But, he will be missed and Hayward better step up to the plate. I hate that this is coming off as quookish because I’m not WDWHA by any means, but you can’t have a toxic coaching staff and be successful. Leavitt brought us from garbage to respectability defensively. We? need to keep it going.
You need to be ashamed of yourself
I think he’s a great coach. But let’s talk about revisionist history. About 90% of you fucksticks couldn’t help but comment how average Leavitt was. Now he’s gone all of a sudden you guys think he’s Buddy Ryan. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
I thought duck fans were overrating him, dramatically in some cases. I still think this hurts you because I don't think much of Heyward. He's average as a DB coach. He was at UW anyways.
Now that’s some serious revisionist history. Heyward was a very good DB coach. Trufant, Parker, and Glenn all developed into All Conference caliber players under him. Those secondaries were good.
Of course Lake came along and blew him out of the water, and then showed us what elite DB play looks like. But that doesn’t mean Heyward isn’t a very good position coach in his own right. He also has the body of work that suggests he’s ready to move to a DC position, though I’m not sure I’d be thrilled that we didn’t go pursue someone with DC experience if I’m a duck fan.
Strange take to lead with revisionist history.
-Trufant played only one year under Heyward. -Glenn also played one year under Heyward, was mediocre, and was not all-Pac 12. He was Honorable Mention. -Parker was OK but also only Honorable Mention. -You neglected to mention his best player, Marcus Peters. -Heyward was touted as a good recruiter at the time but only 1 out of his 7 recruits ever contributed anything (1 out of 8 if you count lavon washington in 2014.) -That 1 was of course Kevin King who looked like nothing until Lake developed him which surely wouldn't have happened under Sark and Heyward.
-Most significantly of all- he left the cupboard completely bare. Lake had 3 freshman starting alongside Marcus Peters by game two of 2014. All 3 of which were recruited in the two months after CP was hired and wouldn't have been on a Sark/Heyward roster.
Fair point on what he left in the DB ranks upon his departure. He actually recruited really well for us, but the early departures of guys like Kelly and Enewally definitely hurt the roster he was putting together and negated those gains.
However, it’s also worth mentioning that he inherited a Demetrice Martin secondary that was instrumental to us having the 116th best pass defense in the country in 2011. We’re talking Baylor bowl game, worst secondary in school history bad. And in his two years here our pass defense was 23rd and 61st in the nation. Guys like Trufant and Glenn, who both had breakthrough senior years, were pretty key players in that turnaround. Given the absolute turd that Heyward took over for and the quick results he was able to squeeze out, I would absolutely grade him out as somewhere in the neighborhood of good.
Agree he was an upgrade from Demetrice Martin. Of course thats not saying much since Meat is the worst DBs coach I've ever seen. Not just at UW but everywhere hes been.
Its not like the guys who washed out blew up elsewhere. Jermaine Kelly was somehow a 7th round pick even though he didn't distinguish himself at SJSU. Cleveland Wallace was 2nd team all Mountain West and went undrafted. Thats about it. He probably should have gone after Demontae Kazee but he only had a month after getting hired in 2012.
I agree he is somewhere in the neighborhood of decent to good. Not bad.
This is pretty big. Leavitt's a good DC. Probably not as great as people wanted to argue he was when he left Colorado, but well above average. Hayward is a complete unknown. Maybe he'll be great. I wouldn't bet on it though.
My favorite thing about this thread is all the UO fans saying "Leavitt didn't get any recruits this year". How many coordinators are major players in recruiting? They exist (Tosh Lupoi, Jimmy Lake), but the Justin Wilcox/Pete Kwiatkowski guys who pull almost no one are just as common, if not moreso.
You don't fire a great coordinator because he isn't recruiting.
Strange move for Oregon IMO. Hard to see it paying off for them but I'll LIFPO.
I think it's more pointedly do you risk some smaller school scooping up yore best recruiter in Hayward as their defensive coordinator, or do you keep going down a path with a defensive coordinator who's a better Xs and Os guy but clearly wants out at the first opportunity?
It's not what I would've done. But I get why it happened.
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However, it’s also worth mentioning that he inherited a Demetrice Martin secondary that was instrumental to us having the 116th best pass defense in the country in 2011. We’re talking Baylor bowl game, worst secondary in school history bad. And in his two years here our pass defense was 23rd and 61st in the nation. Guys like Trufant and Glenn, who both had breakthrough senior years, were pretty key players in that turnaround. Given the absolute turd that Heyward took over for and the quick results he was able to squeeze out, I would absolutely grade him out as somewhere in the neighborhood of good.
My favorite thing about this thread is all the UO fans saying "Leavitt didn't get any recruits this year". How many coordinators are major players in recruiting? They exist (Tosh Lupoi, Jimmy Lake), but the Justin Wilcox/Pete Kwiatkowski guys who pull almost no one are just as common, if not moreso.
You don't fire a great coordinator because he isn't recruiting.
Strange move for Oregon IMO. Hard to see it paying off for them but I'll LIFPO.
Should be a fun year for a new DC
Oregon was 8th in pass defense in the Pac 12 and 5th in rush yards per game.
https://stats.pac-12.com/sports/fball/2018-19/teams?sort=ptspgopp&r=0&pos=def
DeRuyter had the 2nd best D in the conference with a bunch of try hard 2* whites. And Cal can't afford to pay him shit. But sure, promote a guy with 0 experience. Why take the risk when you can have a sure thing.
Oregon fans now: Jim Leavitt wasn't even that good.
Washington fans last week: Oregon's defense sucks, Leavitt is overrated.
Washington fans now: LOL Oregon is fucked, Jim Leavitt is their best DC ever.
Both quooks and doogs are so predictable.
The writing on the wall has been there for a year. Leavitt was getting another year of that $1.7 million contract and hoping to bail for a HC job. He's obviously good at what he does, if he tries. Unfortunately, for him, no one wants an old man who choked a kid and can't recruit.
Is this a good thing? Who the fuck knows? Will Keith Heyward be a good DC? Who the fuck knows? But if Cristobal decided he wasn't going to put up with Leavitt's shit, this is one of his first major moves and he's either going to look really dumb or really smart.
Being a coordinator is 50% talent, 25% scheme/play calling, and 25% motivation. Heyward can recruit and motivate, the question is if he can do the technical shit. The word is that he kept taking over more of the defense from up in the box while Leavitt was acting like he's taking a heroin shit on the sideline.
Suck is way over used as has been discussed. Average would be better.
Discord in your enemies camp is always a good thing though
Question is who do the PLAYERS want as D coordinator?
Urban Meyer could livestream himself mouth fucking a nun, taking breaks for hits from a meth pipe, and he could have a head coaching job tomorrow. Greg Schiano probably knew kids were being diddled and Tennessee still tried to hire him.
I'd rather Leavitt had stayed because after Pillows Pellum and that fatass Hoke he seemed like a genius. But if he was a genius he would have taken a few more years of his contract and retired to spend his time getting Pepsi enemas from his gold digger wife. Maybe use the talent that Heyward/Dennison/Williams brought in and put out a great defense and then maybe Miami of Ohio or someone could hire him as a head coach.
Its not like the guys who washed out blew up elsewhere. Jermaine Kelly was somehow a 7th round pick even though he didn't distinguish himself at SJSU. Cleveland Wallace was 2nd team all Mountain West and went undrafted. Thats about it. He probably should have gone after Demontae Kazee but he only had a month after getting hired in 2012.
I agree he is somewhere in the neighborhood of decent to good. Not bad.
But how is he qualified to be a DC?
It's not what I would've done. But I get why it happened.