Be rational, my dawg. Stanford's academics clearly won out here because if it was a football decision he'd be at UW no question. And maybe Taylor's cat has leukemia. Who the fuck knows? Remember, we're a little biased here and don't know anything when it comes to these kid's decisions. Be angry for a minute and then relax, Green Bay.
We? have some amazing recruiters... Lake, Malloe, Huff, Adams. But also some BIG recruiting liabilities on staff too... Kwiatkowski, Bhonerpha, Paopao and Gregory. It's a problem... I hope Pete does something about it.
If we don't get a stud OLB this class, I'm gonna fucking lose it.
While losing Yurosek and Taylor sucks, I can't get too bent out of shape if they're picking Stanford and the in-state school, respectively. Those are tough hurdles to overcome for some kids. Stanford is Stanford and some kids want to stay close to home. Taylor picking Colorado clearly means there's a reason he wants to stay close to home. This isn't like losing a Southern California kid to Oregon, for example, where there are ZERO legitimate reasons for picking O over UW. This sucks but let's all take a deep breath.
I still can’t get on board with this. Elite talent has been the last problem for UW at TE.
Some like to pretend like every championship contender has great recruiters. They don’t. Some of these guys are retread white guys. The schools sell themselves.
I don’t think anyone criticizing UW’s marketing and sales is wrong, but winning helps. The reason we are good is because of Petersen’s system. If we get a stud QB we can win a title. If we don’t or the offense is too fucktarded we won’t.
Petersen can build a strong enough team to contend. Of course we want the best possible players, but we’ve been good enough to contend since 2016. We need our Deshaun Watson or Trevor Lawrence. Huard is the doog hope.
I still can’t get on board with this. Elite talent has been the last problem for UW at TE.
Some like to pretend like every championship contender has great recruiters. They don’t. Some of these guys are retread white guys. The schools sell themselves.
I don’t think anyone criticizing UW’s marketing and sales is wrong, but winning helps. The reason we are good is because of Petersen’s system. If we get a stud QB we can win a title. If we don’t or the offense is too fucktarded we won’t.
Petersen can build a strong enough team to contend. Of course we want the best possible players, but we’ve been good enough to contend since 2016. We need our Deshaun Watson or Trevor Lawrence. Huard is the doog hope.
I find it odd that PaoPao is called just a “fine coach” or treated as pretty average and disposable ( 5?), a zero recruiter, but has generated well above average TE results (8+) in Sample, Disslydawg, and now Bryant (plus other solid support).
The WRs play has sucked for years outside of Ross and pettis The RBs other than Gaskin have been pretty meh The QB room and play has been a fucking mess The clock management/ @TheChart has been terrible The overall motion scheme sucks
The TE group has been the most consistently good thing on the offensive side of the ball.
Paopao has major flaws and things to work on, there isn’t a TE position coach in the country who doesn’t. I don’t think the on field results are as easily replicated as people almost entirely focused on high school recruiting believe.
I still can’t get on board with this. Elite talent has been the last problem for UW at TE.
Some like to pretend like every championship contender has great recruiters. They don’t. Some of these guys are retread white guys. The schools sell themselves.
I don’t think anyone criticizing UW’s marketing and sales is wrong, but winning helps. The reason we are good is because of Petersen’s system. If we get a stud QB we can win a title. If we don’t or the offense is too fucktarded we won’t.
Petersen can build a strong enough team to contend. Of course we want the best possible players, but we’ve been good enough to contend since 2016. We need our Deshaun Watson or Trevor Lawrence. Huard is the doog hope.
I find it odd that PaoPao is called just a “fine coach” or treated as pretty average and disposable ( 5?), a zero recruiter, but has generated well above average TE results (8+) in Sample, Disslydawg, and now Bryant (plus other solid support).
The WRs play has sucked for years outside of Ross and pettis The RBs other than Gaskin have been pretty meh The QB room and play has been a fucking mess The clock management/ @TheChart has been terrible The overall motion scheme sucks
The TE group has been the most consistently good thing on the offensive side of the ball.
Paopao has major flaws and things to work on, there isn’t a TE position coach in the country who doesn’t. I don’t think the on field results are as easily replicated as people almost entirely focused on high school recruiting believe.
Paopao is + development
We'd like him to be + recruiting
He's a TE coach so that's really all there is. Do BOTH well or GTFO.
Even Bonerpoper is at least the recruiting coordinator doing something else for his paycheck.
I still can’t get on board with this. Elite talent has been the last problem for UW at TE.
Some like to pretend like every championship contender has great recruiters. They don’t. Some of these guys are retread white guys. The schools sell themselves.
I don’t think anyone criticizing UW’s marketing and sales is wrong, but winning helps. The reason we are good is because of Petersen’s system. If we get a stud QB we can win a title. If we don’t or the offense is too fucktarded we won’t.
Petersen can build a strong enough team to contend. Of course we want the best possible players, but we’ve been good enough to contend since 2016. We need our Deshaun Watson or Trevor Lawrence. Huard is the doog hope.
Paopao has 100% earned himself the benefit of the doubt. For two straight years he's put a tight end in the first four rounds of the draft and has the best TE duo in the country this upcoming season. He's earned the right to be a shit recruiter, which he's not, because we already have one of the best prep TEs in the country locked down. Sometimes people here take recruiting more seriously than the game itself. People talk about Ikaika like he's a god, meanwhile nobody wants to talk about the fact that Coach K is the best fucking DC we've had since Lambo.
I still can’t get on board with this. Elite talent has been the last problem for UW at TE.
Some like to pretend like every championship contender has great recruiters. They don’t. Some of these guys are retread white guys. The schools sell themselves.
I don’t think anyone criticizing UW’s marketing and sales is wrong, but winning helps. The reason we are good is because of Petersen’s system. If we get a stud QB we can win a title. If we don’t or the offense is too fucktarded we won’t.
Petersen can build a strong enough team to contend. Of course we want the best possible players, but we’ve been good enough to contend since 2016. We need our Deshaun Watson or Trevor Lawrence. Huard is the doog hope.
Paopao has 100% earned himself the benefit of the doubt. For two straight years he's put a tight end in the first four rounds of the draft and has the best TE duo in the country this upcoming season. He's earned the right to be a shit recruiter, which he's not, because we already have one of the best prep TEs in the country locked down. Sometimes people here take recruiting more seriously than the game itself. People talk about Ikaika like he's a god, meanwhile nobody wants to talk about the fact that Coach K is the best fucking DC we've had since Lambo.
Does anyone that's not a retard call for Coach K to be fired? I wonder why he gets a pass?
Also, "surprise" people evaluate coaches recruiting on the recruiting bored.
I'm tired of the false binary. We want good development AND good recruiting.
If you want to argue LIPO on a coach or "the system is good just not the results THIS year" then fine. Thinking the program isn't capable of hiring coaches who are good at recruiting AND development has been proven to be a retarded take though.
I still can’t get on board with this. Elite talent has been the last problem for UW at TE.
Some like to pretend like every championship contender has great recruiters. They don’t. Some of these guys are retread white guys. The schools sell themselves.
I don’t think anyone criticizing UW’s marketing and sales is wrong, but winning helps. The reason we are good is because of Petersen’s system. If we get a stud QB we can win a title. If we don’t or the offense is too fucktarded we won’t.
Petersen can build a strong enough team to contend. Of course we want the best possible players, but we’ve been good enough to contend since 2016. We need our Deshaun Watson or Trevor Lawrence. Huard is the doog hope.
Paopao has 100% earned himself the benefit of the doubt. For two straight years he's put a tight end in the first four rounds of the draft and has the best TE duo in the country this upcoming season. He's earned the right to be a shit recruiter, which he's not, because we already have one of the best prep TEs in the country locked down. Sometimes people here take recruiting more seriously than the game itself. People talk about Ikaika like he's a god, meanwhile nobody wants to talk about the fact that Coach K is the best fucking DC we've had since Lambo.
Does anyone that's not a retard call for Coach K to be fired? I wonder why he gets a pass?
Also, "surprise" people evaluate coaches recruiting on the recruiting bored.
I'm tired of the false binary. We want good development AND good recruiting.
If you want to argue LIPO on a coach or "the system is good just not the results THIS year" then fine. Thinking the program isn't capable of hiring coaches who are good at recruiting AND development has been proven to be a retarded take though.
I agree with this but the evidence is not that Paopao is a good coach, it’s that he’s a great coach. This gives him more leeway with me than a guy like Bonerpopper who is an obviously good but probably not great developer.
Paopao has had amazing resuits. I don’t know that we can replicate that even with a better recruiter unless he’s also a great coach. I’m open to suggestions on who that would be at anything close to his salary level. He gets paid peanuts.
I also think we may be swimming upstream on this kind of thing. Pete has shown by his actions that his primary goal is to get coaches that are great teachers, probably with the belief (which I share) that over time, great coaching will lead to results that will lead to great recruiting.
Maybe if the recruiting gets bad enough (Strausser?) he will switch. But the continued presence of Gregory, Boner, Kwat and Paopao shows he's not in a hurry to do so.
- get great teachers ... - selling is an art form that can be taught to a degree. Works even better in a successful system and/or that coach has some natural talent - if a guy has coaching chops and/or results then they get a bit of a pass as long as they start improving their crootin game. - Peterman likes stability, reliability, consistency and all that other okg shit. There's alot of hard-to-measure value in all of that.
Remember kwat? Some years ago some people were giving him the stink eye because he couldn't recruit but he could coach and run a defense.
But mostly it was understood that he peaked at defensive coordinator and was relatively happy at this level with less interest in head coaching positions.
Peterman likes that because it's stable, he has one less thing to worry about with his coaching structure and he can concentrate more in shoring the weaker coaches.
Lake is stable but he's upward trending thus the will Harris understudy position for when it's time for lake to strike out in his own.
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Colorado is a fucking MWC level school.
Stop making doog excuses.
If we don't get a stud OLB this class, I'm gonna fucking lose it.
Some potential relief for BTP blue balling your refractory McMillan doogwood.
Also, hasn't Friday already come and gone?
Some like to pretend like every championship contender has great recruiters. They don’t. Some of these guys are retread white guys. The schools sell themselves.
I don’t think anyone criticizing UW’s marketing and sales is wrong, but winning helps. The reason we are good is because of Petersen’s system. If we get a stud QB we can win a title. If we don’t or the offense is too fucktarded we won’t.
Petersen can build a strong enough team to contend. Of course we want the best possible players, but we’ve been good enough to contend since 2016. We need our Deshaun Watson or Trevor Lawrence. Huard is the doog hope.
The WRs play has sucked for years outside of Ross and pettis
The RBs other than Gaskin have been pretty meh
The QB room and play has been a fucking mess
The clock management/ @TheChart has been terrible
The overall motion scheme sucks
The TE group has been the most consistently good thing on the offensive side of the ball.
Paopao has major flaws and things to work on, there isn’t a TE position coach in the country who doesn’t. I don’t think the on field results are as easily replicated as people almost entirely focused on high school recruiting believe.
We'd like him to be + recruiting
He's a TE coach so that's really all there is. Do BOTH well or GTFO.
Even Bonerpoper is at least the recruiting coordinator doing something else for his paycheck.
Also, "surprise" people evaluate coaches recruiting on the recruiting bored.
I'm tired of the false binary. We want good development AND good recruiting.
If you want to argue LIPO on a coach or "the system is good just not the results THIS year" then fine. Thinking the program isn't capable of hiring coaches who are good at recruiting AND development has been proven to be a retarded take though.
Paopao has had amazing resuits. I don’t know that we can replicate that even with a better recruiter unless he’s also a great coach. I’m open to suggestions on who that would be at anything close to his salary level. He gets paid peanuts.
Maybe if the recruiting gets bad enough (Strausser?) he will switch. But the continued presence of Gregory, Boner, Kwat and Paopao shows he's not in a hurry to do so.
- selling is an art form that can be taught to a degree. Works even better in a successful system and/or that coach has some natural talent
- if a guy has coaching chops and/or results then they get a bit of a pass as long as they start improving their crootin game.
- Peterman likes stability, reliability, consistency and all that other okg shit. There's alot of hard-to-measure value in all of that.
Remember kwat? Some years ago some people were giving him the stink eye because he couldn't recruit but he could coach and run a defense.
But mostly it was understood that he peaked at defensive coordinator and was relatively happy at this level with less interest in head coaching positions.
Peterman likes that because it's stable, he has one less thing to worry about with his coaching structure and he can concentrate more in shoring the weaker coaches.
Lake is stable but he's upward trending thus the will Harris understudy position for when it's time for lake to strike out in his own.