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  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861

    2001400ex said:

    I’m all for renewable and sustainable energy sources. But nuclear energy is by far the most viable and most efficent. We already have the infrastructure in place too! Advancement in recent technologies have made it so you don’t need a big nuclear plane either. Effectively making an already very safe process even safer!

    Planes are going to be banned. Double banning for nuclear planes.
    Fuck off. You know I meant plant
    Did you know Newsom is living in Reagan’s old house in Sacramento?
    Disgusting!
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861

    I’m all for renewable and sustainable energy sources. But nuclear energy is by far the most viable and most efficent. We already have the infrastructure in place too! Advancement in recent technologies have made it so you don’t need a big nuclear plant either. Effectively making an already very safe process even safer!

    Aside from the typo HRYK. "Renewables" aren't going to manage baseload all over the world. We had a decent informative discussion about this the other day.

    Also, the green new deal is based on the concept of economic stimulus...which is the last thing this economy needs. FS. Stagflation would be great!

    If you want to dump other people's money somewhere dump it into pure R&D, DARPA, or research grants for "clean" energy. It's one of the few areas where the government is reasonably effective.
    This.
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233

    Getting rid of nuclear energy is fs, hth.

    It’s a sustainable source of clean burning fuel that’s safe to generate ( unless you massively fuck up like Trinobyl but still).

    AOC is a clown.

    If she had nuclear in it you’d be arguing that it’s too expensive or dangerous. You guys don’t argue in good faith. You’re against it and you’re going to find a reason to be against it so help you god.

    100% renewable is viable now. We have a government run electric company that’s successful and knows how to build it.

    Stop screaming just to scream.
    That's not true. I'm screaming because any plan that hopes to slow or end global warming without crushing the poor has to include nuclear power. Anything else is unrealistic given today's technology, and will ultimately be unsuccessful - and frankly we don't have time for all that fucking around. Why can't the green new deal be realistic and include nuclear power?
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    dflea said:

    Getting rid of nuclear energy is fs, hth.

    It’s a sustainable source of clean burning fuel that’s safe to generate ( unless you massively fuck up like Trinobyl but still).

    AOC is a clown.

    If she had nuclear in it you’d be arguing that it’s too expensive or dangerous. You guys don’t argue in good faith. You’re against it and you’re going to find a reason to be against it so help you god.

    100% renewable is viable now. We have a government run electric company that’s successful and knows how to build it.

    Stop screaming just to scream.
    That's not true. I'm screaming because any plan that hopes to slow or end global warming without crushing the poor has to include nuclear power. Anything else is unrealistic given today's technology, and will ultimately be unsuccessful - and frankly we don't have time for all that fucking around. Why can't the green new deal be realistic and include nuclear power?
    Because the authors of the Green New Deal are a dancing bartender and those that worship feelings over facts. They don’t realize or just simply ignore that China and India pollute moar than we do.

    Somewhere at @AZDuck is murder bonering over the Trains!!!! proposal though.
  • MariotaTheGawdMariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    10 years to completely remove fossil fuels AND nuclear energy all while getting rid of air travel? The sheer enormity of that makes the moon landing look like building a lego house. Is anyone at all thinking this is absurd?

    Not getting rid of of air travel.

    The goal is no nuclear. If we can do it without nuclear we should, if we can’t do it without nuclear we’ll end up using it.

    No shit it’s absurd. This is what happens when you sit on your ass ignoring scientists. Do it or we’re chillin with the dinosaurs.
    We’re all long fucking dead and decomposed before an Ice Age hits. And probably twenty generations after that will be worm food as well.
    We'll all be long dead before we have to pay off the deficit. Didn't stop you from screaming about that for 8 years.
    El oh fucking el at people (Hondo)who think the “deficit” has some date were it has to be “paid off”.

    On another note, I’m sure if the government can take in enough money, they will solve climate change. Hell, I bet the climate will stay as it is for millions of years. They have a great track record.

    I meant debt. And at some point we will need to work on paying it down.

    And why are you so against investing in clean energy?
    When did I say I’m against investing in new “clean” energy technology? You’re so lazy In your logic. Which is probably why you love use fallacies. Why do you assume that if someone doesn’t think think the government should do something, they don’t think it should be done at all?

    And you have no idea how the debt works or is financed, apparently. How do “we” work on “paying it down”. Tell me how that works. El oh fucking el.
    I was just reading that we are all doomed as insect populations are declining. You don't think that has anything to do with all those wind turbines smashing them? Endangered birds as well. Solar farms fry them all when they fly through as well. Damn greenies are destroying the planet!
    Let me get this straight. Are you really saying that a reduction in insect population is from wind turbines?
    They kill birds like crazy including endangered species. You don't think they kill insects?
    How many insects do cars kill? And how many birds do buildings kill? I don't see you calling to end vehicles and tall buildings.

    That being said. You are fucktarded for saying a significant amount of insects are killed by wind turbines. I wish you were trolling but you are just dumb.
    Your dumb as a rock. No actually the rock is smarter.

    We won't have cars anymore if you commies are ever in charge.


    Lots of dogs eating well in the free market paradise of Somalia
  • MariotaTheGawdMariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    10 years to completely remove fossil fuels AND nuclear energy all while getting rid of air travel? The sheer enormity of that makes the moon landing look like building a lego house. Is anyone at all thinking this is absurd?

    Not getting rid of of air travel.

    The goal is no nuclear. If we can do it without nuclear we should, if we can’t do it without nuclear we’ll end up using it.

    No shit it’s absurd. This is what happens when you sit on your ass ignoring scientists. Do it or we’re chillin with the dinosaurs.
    We’re all long fucking dead and decomposed before an Ice Age hits. And probably twenty generations after that will be worm food as well.
    We'll all be long dead before we have to pay off the deficit. Didn't stop you from screaming about that for 8 years.
    El oh fucking el at people (Hondo)who think the “deficit” has some date were it has to be “paid off”.

    On another note, I’m sure if the government can take in enough money, they will solve climate change. Hell, I bet the climate will stay as it is for millions of years. They have a great track record.

    I meant debt. And at some point we will need to work on paying it down.

    And why are you so against investing in clean energy?
    When did I say I’m against investing in new “clean” energy technology? You’re so lazy In your logic. Which is probably why you love use fallacies. Why do you assume that if someone doesn’t think think the government should do something, they don’t think it should be done at all?

    And you have no idea how the debt works or is financed, apparently. How do “we” work on “paying it down”. Tell me how that works. El oh fucking el.
    I was just reading that we are all doomed as insect populations are declining. You don't think that has anything to do with all those wind turbines smashing them? Endangered birds as well. Solar farms fry them all when they fly through as well. Damn greenies are destroying the planet!
    Let me get this straight. Are you really saying that a reduction in insect population is from wind turbines?
    They kill birds like crazy including endangered species. You don't think they kill insects?
    How many insects do cars kill? And how many birds do buildings kill? I don't see you calling to end vehicles and tall buildings.

    That being said. You are fucktarded for saying a significant amount of insects are killed by wind turbines. I wish you were trolling but you are just dumb.
    Your dumb as a rock. No actually the rock is smarter.

    We won't have cars anymore if you commies are ever in charge.


    Lots of dogs eating well in the free market paradise of Somalia
    Ignorant and cliche. You’re a fucking miracle.
    As opposed to the super genius "actually classical liberal, bet you've never heard of it" guy
  • MariotaTheGawdMariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    10 years to completely remove fossil fuels AND nuclear energy all while getting rid of air travel? The sheer enormity of that makes the moon landing look like building a lego house. Is anyone at all thinking this is absurd?

    Not getting rid of of air travel.

    The goal is no nuclear. If we can do it without nuclear we should, if we can’t do it without nuclear we’ll end up using it.

    No shit it’s absurd. This is what happens when you sit on your ass ignoring scientists. Do it or we’re chillin with the dinosaurs.
    We’re all long fucking dead and decomposed before an Ice Age hits. And probably twenty generations after that will be worm food as well.
    We'll all be long dead before we have to pay off the deficit. Didn't stop you from screaming about that for 8 years.
    El oh fucking el at people (Hondo)who think the “deficit” has some date were it has to be “paid off”.

    On another note, I’m sure if the government can take in enough money, they will solve climate change. Hell, I bet the climate will stay as it is for millions of years. They have a great track record.

    I meant debt. And at some point we will need to work on paying it down.

    And why are you so against investing in clean energy?
    When did I say I’m against investing in new “clean” energy technology? You’re so lazy In your logic. Which is probably why you love use fallacies. Why do you assume that if someone doesn’t think think the government should do something, they don’t think it should be done at all?

    And you have no idea how the debt works or is financed, apparently. How do “we” work on “paying it down”. Tell me how that works. El oh fucking el.
    I was just reading that we are all doomed as insect populations are declining. You don't think that has anything to do with all those wind turbines smashing them? Endangered birds as well. Solar farms fry them all when they fly through as well. Damn greenies are destroying the planet!
    Let me get this straight. Are you really saying that a reduction in insect population is from wind turbines?
    They kill birds like crazy including endangered species. You don't think they kill insects?
    How many insects do cars kill? And how many birds do buildings kill? I don't see you calling to end vehicles and tall buildings.

    That being said. You are fucktarded for saying a significant amount of insects are killed by wind turbines. I wish you were trolling but you are just dumb.
    Your dumb as a rock. No actually the rock is smarter.

    We won't have cars anymore if you commies are ever in charge.


    Lots of dogs eating well in the free market paradise of Somalia
    Ignorant and cliche. You’re a fucking miracle.
    As opposed to the super genius "actually classical liberal, bet you've never heard of it" guy
    1) you’d never heard of it.
    2) who’s the fag in your avatar?
    Lmfao you really do think "classical liberal" is some unique snowflake thing

    The jokes write themselves
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    10 years to completely remove fossil fuels AND nuclear energy all while getting rid of air travel? The sheer enormity of that makes the moon landing look like building a lego house. Is anyone at all thinking this is absurd?

    Not getting rid of of air travel.

    The goal is no nuclear. If we can do it without nuclear we should, if we can’t do it without nuclear we’ll end up using it.

    No shit it’s absurd. This is what happens when you sit on your ass ignoring scientists. Do it or we’re chillin with the dinosaurs.
    We’re all long fucking dead and decomposed before an Ice Age hits. And probably twenty generations after that will be worm food as well.
    We'll all be long dead before we have to pay off the deficit. Didn't stop you from screaming about that for 8 years.
    El oh fucking el at people (Hondo)who think the “deficit” has some date were it has to be “paid off”.

    On another note, I’m sure if the government can take in enough money, they will solve climate change. Hell, I bet the climate will stay as it is for millions of years. They have a great track record.

    I meant debt. And at some point we will need to work on paying it down.

    And why are you so against investing in clean energy?
    When did I say I’m against investing in new “clean” energy technology? You’re so lazy In your logic. Which is probably why you love use fallacies. Why do you assume that if someone doesn’t think think the government should do something, they don’t think it should be done at all?

    And you have no idea how the debt works or is financed, apparently. How do “we” work on “paying it down”. Tell me how that works. El oh fucking el.
    I was just reading that we are all doomed as insect populations are declining. You don't think that has anything to do with all those wind turbines smashing them? Endangered birds as well. Solar farms fry them all when they fly through as well. Damn greenies are destroying the planet!
    Let me get this straight. Are you really saying that a reduction in insect population is from wind turbines?
    They kill birds like crazy including endangered species. You don't think they kill insects?
    How many insects do cars kill? And how many birds do buildings kill? I don't see you calling to end vehicles and tall buildings.

    That being said. You are fucktarded for saying a significant amount of insects are killed by wind turbines. I wish you were trolling but you are just dumb.
    Your dumb as a rock. No actually the rock is smarter.

    We won't have cars anymore if you commies are ever in charge.


    Lots of dogs eating well in the free market paradise of Somalia
    Ignorant and cliche. You’re a fucking miracle.
    As opposed to the super genius "actually classical liberal, bet you've never heard of it" guy
    1) you’d never heard of it.
    2) who’s the fag in your avatar?
    Lmfao you really do think "classical liberal" is some unique snowflake thing

    The jokes write themselves
    No, I don’t. I just think you don’t know what it is. Pretty simple.

    That said, who’s the fag in your avatar ?
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    dflea said:

    Getting rid of nuclear energy is fs, hth.

    It’s a sustainable source of clean burning fuel that’s safe to generate ( unless you massively fuck up like Trinobyl but still).

    AOC is a clown.

    If she had nuclear in it you’d be arguing that it’s too expensive or dangerous. You guys don’t argue in good faith. You’re against it and you’re going to find a reason to be against it so help you god.

    100% renewable is viable now. We have a government run electric company that’s successful and knows how to build it.

    Stop screaming just to scream.
    That's not true. I'm screaming because any plan that hopes to slow or end global warming without crushing the poor has to include nuclear power. Anything else is unrealistic given today's technology, and will ultimately be unsuccessful - and frankly we don't have time for all that fucking around. Why can't the green new deal be realistic and include nuclear power?
    The goal is transition off nuclear. That’s not “we’re banning nuclear” and it’s not “we’re doing it without nuclear”.

    The Green New Deal isn’t even a bill. If you want nuclear to be a bigger part of it write your congressperson and donate to candidates in 2020 that want the same thing.

    Also, there is research that suggests we can run the country on renewable energy using current technology.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364032118303307?via=ihub
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club
    Trump supports nuclear

    2020
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233

    dflea said:

    Getting rid of nuclear energy is fs, hth.

    It’s a sustainable source of clean burning fuel that’s safe to generate ( unless you massively fuck up like Trinobyl but still).

    AOC is a clown.

    If she had nuclear in it you’d be arguing that it’s too expensive or dangerous. You guys don’t argue in good faith. You’re against it and you’re going to find a reason to be against it so help you god.

    100% renewable is viable now. We have a government run electric company that’s successful and knows how to build it.

    Stop screaming just to scream.
    That's not true. I'm screaming because any plan that hopes to slow or end global warming without crushing the poor has to include nuclear power. Anything else is unrealistic given today's technology, and will ultimately be unsuccessful - and frankly we don't have time for all that fucking around. Why can't the green new deal be realistic and include nuclear power?
    The goal is transition off nuclear. That’s not “we’re banning nuclear” and it’s not “we’re doing it without nuclear”.

    The Green New Deal isn’t even a bill. If you want nuclear to be a bigger part of it write your congressperson and donate to candidates in 2020 that want the same thing.

    Also, there is research that suggests we can run the country on renewable energy using current technology.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364032118303307?via=ihub
    I guess I'm a guy that wants reasons why you'd transition away from the best energy source for providing an affordable way to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. That seems like something you'd transition toward, not away from.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,843 Standard Supporter

    dflea said:

    Getting rid of nuclear energy is fs, hth.

    It’s a sustainable source of clean burning fuel that’s safe to generate ( unless you massively fuck up like Trinobyl but still).

    AOC is a clown.

    If she had nuclear in it you’d be arguing that it’s too expensive or dangerous. You guys don’t argue in good faith. You’re against it and you’re going to find a reason to be against it so help you god.

    100% renewable is viable now. We have a government run electric company that’s successful and knows how to build it.

    Stop screaming just to scream.
    That's not true. I'm screaming because any plan that hopes to slow or end global warming without crushing the poor has to include nuclear power. Anything else is unrealistic given today's technology, and will ultimately be unsuccessful - and frankly we don't have time for all that fucking around. Why can't the green new deal be realistic and include nuclear power?
    The goal is transition off nuclear. That’s not “we’re banning nuclear” and it’s not “we’re doing it without nuclear”.

    The Green New Deal isn’t even a bill. If you want nuclear to be a bigger part of it write your congressperson and donate to candidates in 2020 that want the same thing.

    Also, there is research that suggests we can run the country on renewable energy using current technology.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364032118303307?via=ihub
    Yeah since their won't be any food with the commies in charge the energy saving from not having to cook will make it work!
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861
    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Getting rid of nuclear energy is fs, hth.

    It’s a sustainable source of clean burning fuel that’s safe to generate ( unless you massively fuck up like Trinobyl but still).

    AOC is a clown.

    If she had nuclear in it you’d be arguing that it’s too expensive or dangerous. You guys don’t argue in good faith. You’re against it and you’re going to find a reason to be against it so help you god.

    100% renewable is viable now. We have a government run electric company that’s successful and knows how to build it.

    Stop screaming just to scream.
    That's not true. I'm screaming because any plan that hopes to slow or end global warming without crushing the poor has to include nuclear power. Anything else is unrealistic given today's technology, and will ultimately be unsuccessful - and frankly we don't have time for all that fucking around. Why can't the green new deal be realistic and include nuclear power?
    The goal is transition off nuclear. That’s not “we’re banning nuclear” and it’s not “we’re doing it without nuclear”.

    The Green New Deal isn’t even a bill. If you want nuclear to be a bigger part of it write your congressperson and donate to candidates in 2020 that want the same thing.

    Also, there is research that suggests we can run the country on renewable energy using current technology.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364032118303307?via=ihub
    I guess I'm a guy that wants reasons why you'd transition away from the best energy source for providing an affordable way to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. That seems like something you'd transition toward, not away from.
    Because politicians are stupid scumbags and pander to retarded pre-conceived notions of the people.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Getting rid of nuclear energy is fs, hth.

    It’s a sustainable source of clean burning fuel that’s safe to generate ( unless you massively fuck up like Trinobyl but still).

    AOC is a clown.

    If she had nuclear in it you’d be arguing that it’s too expensive or dangerous. You guys don’t argue in good faith. You’re against it and you’re going to find a reason to be against it so help you god.

    100% renewable is viable now. We have a government run electric company that’s successful and knows how to build it.

    Stop screaming just to scream.
    That's not true. I'm screaming because any plan that hopes to slow or end global warming without crushing the poor has to include nuclear power. Anything else is unrealistic given today's technology, and will ultimately be unsuccessful - and frankly we don't have time for all that fucking around. Why can't the green new deal be realistic and include nuclear power?
    The goal is transition off nuclear. That’s not “we’re banning nuclear” and it’s not “we’re doing it without nuclear”.

    The Green New Deal isn’t even a bill. If you want nuclear to be a bigger part of it write your congressperson and donate to candidates in 2020 that want the same thing.

    Also, there is research that suggests we can run the country on renewable energy using current technology.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364032118303307?via=ihub
    I guess I'm a guy that wants reasons why you'd transition away from the best energy source for providing an affordable way to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. That seems like something you'd transition toward, not away from.
    Because politicians are stupid scumbags and pander to retarded pre-conceived notions of the people.
    Same can be said for why they don't want single payer. And why they won't legalize marijuana. Many other instances on both sides of the aisle.

    Tho I would say lobbying dollars more than pre conceived notions.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Getting rid of nuclear energy is fs, hth.

    It’s a sustainable source of clean burning fuel that’s safe to generate ( unless you massively fuck up like Trinobyl but still).

    AOC is a clown.

    If she had nuclear in it you’d be arguing that it’s too expensive or dangerous. You guys don’t argue in good faith. You’re against it and you’re going to find a reason to be against it so help you god.

    100% renewable is viable now. We have a government run electric company that’s successful and knows how to build it.

    Stop screaming just to scream.
    That's not true. I'm screaming because any plan that hopes to slow or end global warming without crushing the poor has to include nuclear power. Anything else is unrealistic given today's technology, and will ultimately be unsuccessful - and frankly we don't have time for all that fucking around. Why can't the green new deal be realistic and include nuclear power?
    The goal is transition off nuclear. That’s not “we’re banning nuclear” and it’s not “we’re doing it without nuclear”.

    The Green New Deal isn’t even a bill. If you want nuclear to be a bigger part of it write your congressperson and donate to candidates in 2020 that want the same thing.

    Also, there is research that suggests we can run the country on renewable energy using current technology.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364032118303307?via=ihub
    I guess I'm a guy that wants reasons why you'd transition away from the best energy source for providing an affordable way to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. That seems like something you'd transition toward, not away from.
    What I find most frustrating about your argument, and others I’ve seen like it, is you seem like you can’t figure out any problems at all with nuclear.

    There’s waste that has to be stored for 100,000 years.

    It’s not renewable, the Nuclear Energy Agency estimates we can run the world nuclear power plants for 200 years, that’s a band aid.

    Transitioning towards nuclear would mean building more power plants and your point on how affordable it is goes away really quickly when you start doing that.

    The security risks and dangers during a natural disaster are much higher.

    If you can’t find reasons why we should focus on renewable energy over nuclear then you aren’t looking. It might be more pragmatic but it is not a great solution. Fuck pragmatic. MAGA.
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861
    They’ve literally created generators that are able to reuse radioactive waste, hth!
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,928 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Getting rid of nuclear energy is fs, hth.

    It’s a sustainable source of clean burning fuel that’s safe to generate ( unless you massively fuck up like Trinobyl but still).

    AOC is a clown.

    If she had nuclear in it you’d be arguing that it’s too expensive or dangerous. You guys don’t argue in good faith. You’re against it and you’re going to find a reason to be against it so help you god.

    100% renewable is viable now. We have a government run electric company that’s successful and knows how to build it.

    Stop screaming just to scream.
    That's not true. I'm screaming because any plan that hopes to slow or end global warming without crushing the poor has to include nuclear power. Anything else is unrealistic given today's technology, and will ultimately be unsuccessful - and frankly we don't have time for all that fucking around. Why can't the green new deal be realistic and include nuclear power?
    The goal is transition off nuclear. That’s not “we’re banning nuclear” and it’s not “we’re doing it without nuclear”.

    The Green New Deal isn’t even a bill. If you want nuclear to be a bigger part of it write your congressperson and donate to candidates in 2020 that want the same thing.

    Also, there is research that suggests we can run the country on renewable energy using current technology.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364032118303307?via=ihub
    I guess I'm a guy that wants reasons why you'd transition away from the best energy source for providing an affordable way to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. That seems like something you'd transition toward, not away from.
    Because politicians are stupid scumbags and pander to retarded pre-conceived notions of the people.
    Same can be said for why they don't want single payer. And why they won't legalize marijuana. Many other instances on both sides of the aisle.

    Tho I would say lobbying dollars more than pre conceived notions.
    FO, HFS
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