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Elizabeth Warren proposes 'wealth tax' on Americans with more than $50 million in assets

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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    dhdawg said:

    ah nothing like a thread of HCH whining about the evils of taxing the uber wealthy.

    Whining? You sound poor and like an economic illiterate though. Also like an envious bitch
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989

    I love how creative politicians have to be when they're trying to take more money from people. If they would actually spend tax dollars on shit we wanted, or on shit that's actually necessary to maintain a healthy, civilized society, there wouldn't even be a need for taxes. People would just donate. Instead, they spend our money in the shittiest, most inefficient way possible, so they have to get creative and try to trick people into supporting tax increases by making us think "Yeah, fuck wealthy people. Those fuckers don't need all that wealth...it's just, like, sitting there totally unused, man. Those greedy, arrogant, unskilled, lazy, fat, racist good-for-nothing rich people only got rich by making me poor anyway. So let's tax the fuck out of them. Sure, that won't improve my standard of living because the government sure as fuck isn't going to make my life any better with that money. But that's not important. What's important is that I can sit here and feel good about all those wealthy people getting fucked over. Fuck yeah!"

    Start voting for people that will make people’s lives better. I always see this shit about “the government”. The government is made up of people. Elect better people and you’ll get better results.

    The republicans deserve a lot of credit for electing Trump. He’s not the guy but they took their shot to get away from scumbag politicians. More than I can say for a shit load of democrats that won’t even take a shot.
    I don't disagree but I think there are much bigger opportunities for people in general. Too much to get into. I'd probably just argue myself into a corner if I did.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,488
    edited January 2019

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Ike sold the interstate freeway system as national defense

    Like a wall

    Shit the government is supposed to do

    You driving a tank these days, Race?


    Do we need a 70% tax rate to run interstate roads

    I think the bigger problem with the 70% marginal tax rate is that it wouldn't raise that much money. I've already said I'd stop fetishizing investment income. Much simpler than taxing you rich guys 70% on your declared income exceeding $10 million.
    Would be better off with a VAT approach plus a flat tax on earned income (say, somewhere between 17 and 34%, rather easily). High end consumers would pay through the nose. Poor people wouldn't.

    Problem solved.

    Next.



    I'm not saying it couldn't work, but it seems like evasion would be an ongoing problem. Much more so than with treating investment income as ordinary income.
    You pay the VAT tax when you buy the goods. Collection is super easy.

    Goods can be purchased outside of the US. I’m not assuming everyone declares their international purchases.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Ike sold the interstate freeway system as national defense

    Like a wall

    Shit the government is supposed to do

    You driving a tank these days, Race?


    Do we need a 70% tax rate to run interstate roads

    I think the bigger problem with the 70% marginal tax rate is that it wouldn't raise that much money. I've already said I'd stop fetishizing investment income. Much simpler than taxing you rich guys 70% on your declared income exceeding $10 million.
    Would be better off with a VAT approach plus a flat tax on earned income (say, somewhere between 17 and 34%, rather easily). High end consumers would pay through the nose. Poor people wouldn't.

    Problem solved.

    Next.



    I'm not saying it couldn't work, but it seems like evasion would be an ongoing problem. Much more so than with treating investment income as ordinary income.
    You pay the VAT tax when you buy the goods. Collection is super easy.

    It’s the only tax I find somewhat tolerable. A tax on income (productivity) is fucking stupid.
    Damoan wants a tax increase on the poor and middle class to give the wealthy a huge tax cut. The rich have suffered enough.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    2001400ex said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Ike sold the interstate freeway system as national defense

    Like a wall

    Shit the government is supposed to do

    You driving a tank these days, Race?


    Do we need a 70% tax rate to run interstate roads

    I think the bigger problem with the 70% marginal tax rate is that it wouldn't raise that much money. I've already said I'd stop fetishizing investment income. Much simpler than taxing you rich guys 70% on your declared income exceeding $10 million.
    Would be better off with a VAT approach plus a flat tax on earned income (say, somewhere between 17 and 34%, rather easily). High end consumers would pay through the nose. Poor people wouldn't.

    Problem solved.

    Next.



    I'm not saying it couldn't work, but it seems like evasion would be an ongoing problem. Much more so than with treating investment income as ordinary income.
    You pay the VAT tax when you buy the goods. Collection is super easy.

    It’s the only tax I find somewhat tolerable. A tax on income (productivity) is fucking stupid.
    Damoan wants a tax increase on the poor and middle class to give the wealthy a huge tax cut. The rich have suffered enough.
    No I don’t. Lying asswipe.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Ike sold the interstate freeway system as national defense

    Like a wall

    Shit the government is supposed to do

    You driving a tank these days, Race?


    Do we need a 70% tax rate to run interstate roads

    I think the bigger problem with the 70% marginal tax rate is that it wouldn't raise that much money. I've already said I'd stop fetishizing investment income. Much simpler than taxing you rich guys 70% on your declared income exceeding $10 million.
    You’re the honest thief
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,737 Standard Supporter
    Again someone answer the question of how you think you have the right to another persons property?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Ike sold the interstate freeway system as national defense

    Like a wall

    Shit the government is supposed to do

    You driving a tank these days, Race?


    Do we need a 70% tax rate to run interstate roads

    I think the bigger problem with the 70% marginal tax rate is that it wouldn't raise that much money. I've already said I'd stop fetishizing investment income. Much simpler than taxing you rich guys 70% on your declared income exceeding $10 million.
    Would be better off with a VAT approach plus a flat tax on earned income (say, somewhere between 17 and 34%, rather easily). High end consumers would pay through the nose. Poor people wouldn't.

    Problem solved.

    Next.



    I'm not saying it couldn't work, but it seems like evasion would be an ongoing problem. Much more so than with treating investment income as ordinary income.
    You pay the VAT tax when you buy the goods. Collection is super easy.

    It’s the only tax I find somewhat tolerable. A tax on income (productivity) is fucking stupid.
    Damoan wants a tax increase on the poor and middle class to give the wealthy a huge tax cut. The rich have suffered enough.
    No I don’t. Lying asswipe.
    That's what switching to a VAT would do. Or do you not even know the consequences of the policies you want?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited January 2019
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Ike sold the interstate freeway system as national defense

    Like a wall

    Shit the government is supposed to do

    You driving a tank these days, Race?


    Do we need a 70% tax rate to run interstate roads

    I think the bigger problem with the 70% marginal tax rate is that it wouldn't raise that much money. I've already said I'd stop fetishizing investment income. Much simpler than taxing you rich guys 70% on your declared income exceeding $10 million.
    Would be better off with a VAT approach plus a flat tax on earned income (say, somewhere between 17 and 34%, rather easily). High end consumers would pay through the nose. Poor people wouldn't.

    Problem solved.

    Next.



    I'm not saying it couldn't work, but it seems like evasion would be an ongoing problem. Much more so than with treating investment income as ordinary income.
    You pay the VAT tax when you buy the goods. Collection is super easy.

    It’s the only tax I find somewhat tolerable. A tax on income (productivity) is fucking stupid.
    Damoan wants a tax increase on the poor and middle class to give the wealthy a huge tax cut. The rich have suffered enough.
    No I don’t. Lying asswipe.
    That's what switching to a VAT would do. Or do you not even know the consequences of the policies you want?
    You’re a fucking simple mind. And a dumbfuck. Explain to me the “policies” I want. In detail.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Ike sold the interstate freeway system as national defense

    Like a wall

    Shit the government is supposed to do

    You driving a tank these days, Race?


    Do we need a 70% tax rate to run interstate roads

    I think the bigger problem with the 70% marginal tax rate is that it wouldn't raise that much money. I've already said I'd stop fetishizing investment income. Much simpler than taxing you rich guys 70% on your declared income exceeding $10 million.
    Would be better off with a VAT approach plus a flat tax on earned income (say, somewhere between 17 and 34%, rather easily). High end consumers would pay through the nose. Poor people wouldn't.

    Problem solved.

    Next.



    I'm not saying it couldn't work, but it seems like evasion would be an ongoing problem. Much more so than with treating investment income as ordinary income.
    You pay the VAT tax when you buy the goods. Collection is super easy.

    It’s the only tax I find somewhat tolerable. A tax on income (productivity) is fucking stupid.
    Damoan wants a tax increase on the poor and middle class to give the wealthy a huge tax cut. The rich have suffered enough.
    No I don’t. Lying asswipe.
    That's what switching to a VAT would do. Or do you not even know the consequences of the policies you want?
    You’re a fucking simple mind. And a dumbfuck. Explain to me the “policies” I want. In detail.
    Well if you think the tax on productivity is stupid and a VAT is the only one that is tolerable..... You tell me what that means.