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Trumptard’s Wall will stop illegal drugs from flowing across our Southern border...

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,495 Founders Club
    Baphomet said:

    SFGbob said:

    Trump never claimed that the wall would stop all or even a significant percentage of the illegal drugs coming across the border.

    Trump backpedals on so many claims that I fully expect that pretty soon he'll say he never claimed the wall will decrease illegal immigration.
    I'm glad you don't care though
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    TRUMP: “A big proportion of the drugs from, you know, that we have ... in this country come through the border.” — interview Saturday night with Fox News Channel.

    TRUMP: “We lose 300 Americans a week, 90% of which comes through the Southern Border. These numbers will be DRASTICALLY REDUCED if we have a Wall!” — tweet Thursday.

    TRUMP: “Our southern border is a pipeline for vast quantities of illegal drugs, including meth, heroin, cocaine and fentanyl. Every week, 300 of our citizens are killed by heroin alone, 90 percent of which floods across from our southern border.” — remarks Tuesday.

    THE FACTS: What he’s trying to say in the tweet Thursday is that a wall would stop most heroin from coming into the country and drastically reduce heroin deaths, which average about 300 per week. But the Drug Enforcement Administration says “only a small percentage” of heroin seized by U.S. authorities comes across on territory between land ports of entry. Most of it is smuggled through official border crossings.

    The agency says the same is true of drugs generally. In a 2018 report, it said the most common trafficking technique by transnational criminal organizations is to hide drugs in passenger vehicles or tractor-trailers as they drive into the U.S. though land entry ports, where they are stopped and subject to inspection. They also employ buses, cargo trains and tunnels, the report says, citing other smuggling methods that also would not be choked off by a wall.

    Trump recently said drug smugglers don’t use ports of entry, an assertion flatly contradicted by his drug enforcement personnel.

    Despite that disconnect, Trump went so far as to say: “The border wall would very quickly pay for itself. The cost of illegal drugs exceeds $500 billion a year, vastly more than the $5.7 billion we have requested from Congress.”
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    In before Gay Bob calls you a liar cause Trump never explicitly said "the wall will stop all drugs" and then go on to defend Trump's lies and Race tells you you to "Fuck off with your facts and logic. Me want wall!"

    Those love birds are so damn predictable.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,495 Founders Club
    By the way I'm still waiting for a rational argument against


    Like walls don't work
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    By the way I'm still waiting for a rational argument against


    Like walls don't work

    I'm still waiting for a rational explanation on how a wall will stop drugs coming through legal points of entry.

    You got nothing.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    By the way I'm still waiting for a rational argument against


    Like walls don't work

    There's been a number of rational arguments against a wall. Have you ignored them or you playing dumb?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,495 Founders Club

    By the way I'm still waiting for a rational argument against


    Like walls don't work

    I'm still waiting for a rational explanation on how a wall will stop drugs coming through legal points of entry.

    You got nothing.
    No you're not. Already covered.


    Keep flailing. Walls don't work

    Moron
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,495 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    By the way I'm still waiting for a rational argument against


    Like walls don't work

    There's been a number of rational arguments against a wall. Have you ignored them or you playing dumb?
    Give me one.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    By the way I'm still waiting for a rational argument against


    Like walls don't work

    There's been a number of rational arguments against a wall. Have you ignored them or you playing dumb?
    Give me one.
    Even if you are trolling, here you go.

    1) the 5.7 billion will only cover about 200 of the 2,000 miles.

    2) the prototype wall can easily be sawed through.

    3) have you heard of a tunnel?

    4) most of illegal immigrants come through other means, this 200 miles of wall won't have any impact

    5) the vast majority of drugs come through checkpoints. This funding won't have any impact in illegal drugs

    6) there already is a barrier over the vast majority of the border.

    7) technology is already in place at the border and is more effective with the structures already in place

    8) there has been net zero illegal immigration the last 11 years.

    9) given all that above, the wall is a symbol of a political victory more than doing anything to curb illegal immigration or drugs coming through the border.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,495 Founders Club
    That's what I thought

    Who is talking about 200 miles? Fund the whole wall. Beef up the checkpoints. Use tech to find tunnels

    That's rational. Secure the border

    There is no argument against it