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    animateanimate Member Posts: 4,231
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    Domicillo said:

    DJDuck said:

    Greenblood is right. I would take the Duck class over the Husky class any day, particularly given needs.

    Oregon only loses 3 starters out of the 22. One big loss is Jelks. KT will fill that position nicely. Our WR's underperformed and we killed it in WR recruiting. We lose one linebacker and one cornerback. We did really well with recruiting the DB's and we got a couple of linebackers to add depth to the loss of Apelu who was undersized anyway.

    Which do you think is more important in recruiting? Signing 5 receivers or signing 5 defensive lineman, 4 of which are elite. Which position has more guys available and is easier to recruit? If you're going to rank classes, 4-star lineman should be weighted more than 4-star skill players because they're harder to recruit and have a greater impact on wins and losses. With that being said, UW's class blows Oregon's class out of the water, mainly because of what UW did recruiting the trenches.

    But we can go position by position as well:

    QB: Morris is rated higher, outperformed Cale at the Opening, and is deadly accurate and makes faster decisions with a quicker release. Cale has a much bigger frame, is more athletic, and had a more successful Senior season than Morris while playing with better high school talent around him. It's close to being a wash but Morris is a midget so I'll give it to Oregon for now.

    RB: Cam Davis has a bigger frame and is faster than Dollars. Dollars was also taking back up reps at his high school at times. Edge: UW

    WR: Oregon has signed way more WR's so far. It's not over yet because UW could end up with Ford and/or Nacua. But for now, the edge goes to Oregon.

    TE: UW hasn't signed one. Oregon has. Edge: Oregon

    O-line: Both signed two big 4-star lineman. Troy Fautanu who's the most athletic offensive lineman either school signed gives UW the edge here.

    D-line: Not even close. UW destroyed everybody in the conference. Edge: UW

    LB: About even right now, but once Heimuli commits, UW will have the edge here.

    DB: Even without Asa Turner signed, UW still signed three 4-star DB's. Wright and McDuffie cancel out. UW edges Oregon because of the safety position and because one of those safeties was flipped from Oregon.

    Right now, UW wins 5-3 with the chance to win 6-2 on the final signing day.
    D-line is split between DT and DE. UW killed it at DT, but Oregon equally killed at DE. I'm not saying equal, but if you factor in the DE position, Oregon isn't getting destroyed.

    At OL I think Oregon and Washington go for different types of lineman. Kind of hard to compare. Id' put that as even.

    RB- It's too close to call. I'm going even there as well.

    WR for Oregon and DT for Washington were the standout differences.

    You also asked if DT recruiting is more important then WR. I would mostly agree that DT especially on the west coast is more important, with this year being a slight exception. Oregon's WR corp was so bad this year, they had to make it a priority this year. You take away Dillon Mitchell, and that group would be a lower level Big Sky unit. Prior staffs completely missed the boat there. Next year however, DT will need to be an Oregon priority.

    Good luck finding a single west coast DT next year who is as good as the top 5 west coast DTs this year.
    Classy

    I guess we'll see won't we...
    Where da fuk did my post go?

    Anyways, I don't think it was a classless post ... just a statement of fact.

    If you check the 247 2020 rankings for DT/SDE/WDE you'll find:

    - no westcoast DTs in the top 20
    - maybe 2 westcoast SDE in the fringe outside top 20
    - maybe 2 westcoast WDE in the top 20

    Oregon better kick it up a notch recruiting nationally if they want help in those areas ...
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    DomicilloDomicillo Member Posts: 3,025
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    animate said:

    Domicillo said:

    DJDuck said:

    Greenblood is right. I would take the Duck class over the Husky class any day, particularly given needs.

    Oregon only loses 3 starters out of the 22. One big loss is Jelks. KT will fill that position nicely. Our WR's underperformed and we killed it in WR recruiting. We lose one linebacker and one cornerback. We did really well with recruiting the DB's and we got a couple of linebackers to add depth to the loss of Apelu who was undersized anyway.

    Which do you think is more important in recruiting? Signing 5 receivers or signing 5 defensive lineman, 4 of which are elite. Which position has more guys available and is easier to recruit? If you're going to rank classes, 4-star lineman should be weighted more than 4-star skill players because they're harder to recruit and have a greater impact on wins and losses. With that being said, UW's class blows Oregon's class out of the water, mainly because of what UW did recruiting the trenches.

    But we can go position by position as well:

    QB: Morris is rated higher, outperformed Cale at the Opening, and is deadly accurate and makes faster decisions with a quicker release. Cale has a much bigger frame, is more athletic, and had a more successful Senior season than Morris while playing with better high school talent around him. It's close to being a wash but Morris is a midget so I'll give it to Oregon for now.

    RB: Cam Davis has a bigger frame and is faster than Dollars. Dollars was also taking back up reps at his high school at times. Edge: UW

    WR: Oregon has signed way more WR's so far. It's not over yet because UW could end up with Ford and/or Nacua. But for now, the edge goes to Oregon.

    TE: UW hasn't signed one. Oregon has. Edge: Oregon

    O-line: Both signed two big 4-star lineman. Troy Fautanu who's the most athletic offensive lineman either school signed gives UW the edge here.

    D-line: Not even close. UW destroyed everybody in the conference. Edge: UW

    LB: About even right now, but once Heimuli commits, UW will have the edge here.

    DB: Even without Asa Turner signed, UW still signed three 4-star DB's. Wright and McDuffie cancel out. UW edges Oregon because of the safety position and because one of those safeties was flipped from Oregon.

    Right now, UW wins 5-3 with the chance to win 6-2 on the final signing day.
    D-line is split between DT and DE. UW killed it at DT, but Oregon equally killed at DE. I'm not saying equal, but if you factor in the DE position, Oregon isn't getting destroyed.

    At OL I think Oregon and Washington go for different types of lineman. Kind of hard to compare. Id' put that as even.

    RB- It's too close to call. I'm going even there as well.

    WR for Oregon and DT for Washington were the standout differences.

    You also asked if DT recruiting is more important then WR. I would mostly agree that DT especially on the west coast is more important, with this year being a slight exception. Oregon's WR corp was so bad this year, they had to make it a priority this year. You take away Dillon Mitchell, and that group would be a lower level Big Sky unit. Prior staffs completely missed the boat there. Next year however, DT will need to be an Oregon priority.

    Good luck finding a single west coast DT next year who is as good as the top 5 west coast DTs this year.
    Classy

    I guess we'll see won't we...
    Where da fuk did my post go?

    Anyways, I don't think it was a classless post ... just a statement of fact.

    If you check the 247 2020 rankings for DT/SDE/WDE you'll find:

    - no westcoast DTs in the top 20
    - maybe 2 westcoast SDE in the fringe outside top 20
    - maybe 2 westcoast WDE in the top 20

    Oregon better kick it up a notch recruiting nationally if they want help in those areas ...
    I saw the post! God damn Russians, trying to destroy all facts and reason
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    HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
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    animate said:

    Domicillo said:

    DJDuck said:

    Greenblood is right. I would take the Duck class over the Husky class any day, particularly given needs.

    Oregon only loses 3 starters out of the 22. One big loss is Jelks. KT will fill that position nicely. Our WR's underperformed and we killed it in WR recruiting. We lose one linebacker and one cornerback. We did really well with recruiting the DB's and we got a couple of linebackers to add depth to the loss of Apelu who was undersized anyway.

    Which do you think is more important in recruiting? Signing 5 receivers or signing 5 defensive lineman, 4 of which are elite. Which position has more guys available and is easier to recruit? If you're going to rank classes, 4-star lineman should be weighted more than 4-star skill players because they're harder to recruit and have a greater impact on wins and losses. With that being said, UW's class blows Oregon's class out of the water, mainly because of what UW did recruiting the trenches.

    But we can go position by position as well:

    QB: Morris is rated higher, outperformed Cale at the Opening, and is deadly accurate and makes faster decisions with a quicker release. Cale has a much bigger frame, is more athletic, and had a more successful Senior season than Morris while playing with better high school talent around him. It's close to being a wash but Morris is a midget so I'll give it to Oregon for now.

    RB: Cam Davis has a bigger frame and is faster than Dollars. Dollars was also taking back up reps at his high school at times. Edge: UW

    WR: Oregon has signed way more WR's so far. It's not over yet because UW could end up with Ford and/or Nacua. But for now, the edge goes to Oregon.

    TE: UW hasn't signed one. Oregon has. Edge: Oregon

    O-line: Both signed two big 4-star lineman. Troy Fautanu who's the most athletic offensive lineman either school signed gives UW the edge here.

    D-line: Not even close. UW destroyed everybody in the conference. Edge: UW

    LB: About even right now, but once Heimuli commits, UW will have the edge here.

    DB: Even without Asa Turner signed, UW still signed three 4-star DB's. Wright and McDuffie cancel out. UW edges Oregon because of the safety position and because one of those safeties was flipped from Oregon.

    Right now, UW wins 5-3 with the chance to win 6-2 on the final signing day.
    D-line is split between DT and DE. UW killed it at DT, but Oregon equally killed at DE. I'm not saying equal, but if you factor in the DE position, Oregon isn't getting destroyed.

    At OL I think Oregon and Washington go for different types of lineman. Kind of hard to compare. Id' put that as even.

    RB- It's too close to call. I'm going even there as well.

    WR for Oregon and DT for Washington were the standout differences.

    You also asked if DT recruiting is more important then WR. I would mostly agree that DT especially on the west coast is more important, with this year being a slight exception. Oregon's WR corp was so bad this year, they had to make it a priority this year. You take away Dillon Mitchell, and that group would be a lower level Big Sky unit. Prior staffs completely missed the boat there. Next year however, DT will need to be an Oregon priority.

    Good luck finding a single west coast DT next year who is as good as the top 5 west coast DTs this year.
    Classy

    I guess we'll see won't we...
    Where da fuk did my post go?

    Anyways, I don't think it was a classless post ... just a statement of fact.

    If you check the 247 2020 rankings for DT/SDE/WDE you'll find:

    - no westcoast DTs in the top 20
    - maybe 2 westcoast SDE in the fringe outside top 20
    - maybe 2 westcoast WDE in the top 20

    Oregon better kick it up a notch recruiting nationally if they want help in those areas ...
    Smalls would be a WDE in their system and he's a monster.

    We absolutely cannot whiff on him.
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    KrunkJuiceKrunkJuice Member Posts: 2,046
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    Domicillo said:

    I think one of the better 2020 DT out there next year is actually this dude from Kapolei (teammates with Buelow). Very raw but a great athlete, also plays volleyball, but has a frame to grow into a DT. Malloe started following him on Twitter a couple weeks ago after his latest visit to Hawaii.

    https://247sports.com/Player/Maceal-Afaese-46058422/

    http://www.hudl.com/v/2Agv5v

    All that being said, if a guy whose still 260 and raw like this is one of the better DT prospects on the west coast next year, there’s a reason to be concerned for pretty much any Pac12 schools except UW.

    Edit: I’m gonna do some posts/create some threads on a couple 2020 guys like this in the next few weeks after I get weaned off the 2019 recruiting juice.

    Roof mentioned Maceal Afaese and Stanley McKenzie as the 2 guys we will be targeting. Definitely a bad year out west for 2020.
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,279
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    edited December 2018

    Domicillo said:

    I think one of the better 2020 DT out there next year is actually this dude from Kapolei (teammates with Buelow). Very raw but a great athlete, also plays volleyball, but has a frame to grow into a DT. Malloe started following him on Twitter a couple weeks ago after his latest visit to Hawaii.

    https://247sports.com/Player/Maceal-Afaese-46058422/

    http://www.hudl.com/v/2Agv5v

    All that being said, if a guy whose still 260 and raw like this is one of the better DT prospects on the west coast next year, there’s a reason to be concerned for pretty much any Pac12 schools except UW.

    Edit: I’m gonna do some posts/create some threads on a couple 2020 guys like this in the next few weeks after I get weaned off the 2019 recruiting juice.

    Roof mentioned Maceal Afaese and Stanley McKenzie as the 2 guys we will be targeting. Definitely a bad year out west for 2020.
    Jordon Scott came from Florida. It's not like we have to only recruit DL from California or Utah

    Good test for Cristobal. Let's see if he can pull Southeast and Texas DL talent. He'll probably have to
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    RatherBeBrewingRatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
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    I still think Oregon struck out at DT recruiting 2 years in a row. Their eagle recruiting has been fucking phenomenal though

    They could have really used Marlon
    Would have loved to. But we don't have any connections at the passport office.
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    RatherBeBrewingRatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
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    Domicillo said:

    animate said:

    Domicillo said:

    DJDuck said:

    Greenblood is right. I would take the Duck class over the Husky class any day, particularly given needs.

    Oregon only loses 3 starters out of the 22. One big loss is Jelks. KT will fill that position nicely. Our WR's underperformed and we killed it in WR recruiting. We lose one linebacker and one cornerback. We did really well with recruiting the DB's and we got a couple of linebackers to add depth to the loss of Apelu who was undersized anyway.

    Which do you think is more important in recruiting? Signing 5 receivers or signing 5 defensive lineman, 4 of which are elite. Which position has more guys available and is easier to recruit? If you're going to rank classes, 4-star lineman should be weighted more than 4-star skill players because they're harder to recruit and have a greater impact on wins and losses. With that being said, UW's class blows Oregon's class out of the water, mainly because of what UW did recruiting the trenches.

    But we can go position by position as well:

    QB: Morris is rated higher, outperformed Cale at the Opening, and is deadly accurate and makes faster decisions with a quicker release. Cale has a much bigger frame, is more athletic, and had a more successful Senior season than Morris while playing with better high school talent around him. It's close to being a wash but Morris is a midget so I'll give it to Oregon for now.

    RB: Cam Davis has a bigger frame and is faster than Dollars. Dollars was also taking back up reps at his high school at times. Edge: UW

    WR: Oregon has signed way more WR's so far. It's not over yet because UW could end up with Ford and/or Nacua. But for now, the edge goes to Oregon.

    TE: UW hasn't signed one. Oregon has. Edge: Oregon

    O-line: Both signed two big 4-star lineman. Troy Fautanu who's the most athletic offensive lineman either school signed gives UW the edge here.

    D-line: Not even close. UW destroyed everybody in the conference. Edge: UW

    LB: About even right now, but once Heimuli commits, UW will have the edge here.

    DB: Even without Asa Turner signed, UW still signed three 4-star DB's. Wright and McDuffie cancel out. UW edges Oregon because of the safety position and because one of those safeties was flipped from Oregon.

    Right now, UW wins 5-3 with the chance to win 6-2 on the final signing day.
    D-line is split between DT and DE. UW killed it at DT, but Oregon equally killed at DE. I'm not saying equal, but if you factor in the DE position, Oregon isn't getting destroyed.

    At OL I think Oregon and Washington go for different types of lineman. Kind of hard to compare. Id' put that as even.

    RB- It's too close to call. I'm going even there as well.

    WR for Oregon and DT for Washington were the standout differences.

    You also asked if DT recruiting is more important then WR. I would mostly agree that DT especially on the west coast is more important, with this year being a slight exception. Oregon's WR corp was so bad this year, they had to make it a priority this year. You take away Dillon Mitchell, and that group would be a lower level Big Sky unit. Prior staffs completely missed the boat there. Next year however, DT will need to be an Oregon priority.

    Good luck finding a single west coast DT next year who is as good as the top 5 west coast DTs this year.
    Classy

    I guess we'll see won't we...
    Where da fuk did my post go?

    Anyways, I don't think it was a classless post ... just a statement of fact.

    If you check the 247 2020 rankings for DT/SDE/WDE you'll find:

    - no westcoast DTs in the top 20
    - maybe 2 westcoast SDE in the fringe outside top 20
    - maybe 2 westcoast WDE in the top 20

    Oregon better kick it up a notch recruiting nationally if they want help in those areas ...
    I saw the post! God damn Russians, trying to destroy all facts and reason

    I take offense to this. I'm much more Russian than @StrongArmCobra is black, and we don't want to destroy facts or reason. We just want our prostitutki to piss on your president and starve Ukrainians. Give some poison gas to our Syrian buddies. Maybe invade Poland. We're not bad people.
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    dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
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    DJDuck said:

    Greenblood is right. I would take the Duck class over the Husky class any day, particularly given needs.

    Oregon only loses 3 starters out of the 22. One big loss is Jelks. KT will fill that position nicely. Our WR's underperformed and we killed it in WR recruiting. We lose one linebacker and one cornerback. We did really well with recruiting the DB's and we got a couple of linebackers to add depth to the loss of Apelu who was undersized anyway.

    We both filled needs.
    UW doesn’t really have any huge pressing needs, not like Oregon does. We have future depth needs which is what recruiting is supported to address. Would anyone be shocked if we RS this whole class like last one? I could see Heimuli or maybe Ford (we don’t get him) taking off the RS but even then it wouldn’t be significant.

    Unless you mean Horn, which yeah, it’s a need. Not sure he fills it though.
    LB was and still is a need. getting we have 3 and still need heimuli to really address it.
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    NurpleNurple Member Posts: 686
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    Oregon has done great this recruiting cycle ...but do you guys have concerns about KT #1 guys usually have way more offers ...he comes off as arrogant and a douche...those type of guys can kill lockerooms
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    CFetters_Nacho_LoverCFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 28,909
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    DJDuck said:

    Additionally since some of you Huskies know very little when Talking about Oregon............

    Some of you mentioned safeties. Oregon is not in dire need for safeties:

    -We have 3 former 4 star recruits coming back this year Steve Stephens, Brady Breeze and a future star in Jevon Holland, plus Gipson and Picket which played important downs during last season.

    Coming in is Trikweze Bridges a 4 star recruit from Alabama. Bridges has 31 career interceptions.

    Oregon is getting a guy named Trimweze? Impressive.
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    FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,712
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    DJDuck said:

    DJDuck said:

    Greenblood is right. I would take the Duck class over the Husky class any day, particularly given needs.

    Oregon only loses 3 starters out of the 22. One big loss is Jelks. KT will fill that position nicely. Our WR's underperformed and we killed it in WR recruiting. We lose one linebacker and one cornerback. We did really well with recruiting the DB's and we got a couple of linebackers to add depth to the loss of Apelu who was undersized anyway.

    Because filling 2019 needs with the 2019 class should work well.
    2019 needs are tailored to what you have coming back on your team in case you couldn't figure out why your returning starters/two deep are relevant.
    If you need any of those guys to play this year or even next year then you already lost.
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    FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
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    The DT/DE/OLB stuff is interesting as well. Lets pencil Funa in Hollins spot and pencil KT where Jelks is. That’s amazing. But in a system where you only play 2 DT’s for UDUB to get these guys it’s like getting a two deep of KT/Funa.


    But my whole point was the depth of Oregon’s class that scares me because Townsend and Ma’ae are back up plans for Latu and Trice. I just feel that way about a lot of Oregon’s class.


    Keyon ware and sua’va would be behind Tui, Bandes, and Paama by quite a ways (basing this all off film). ILB they picked up that Mathis kid late and I don’t think funa is going to play inside. I wasn’t saying safety was major for them but if you look at all these guys they aren’t #1/#2 options outside of KT, Jonah, and Wright and kind of Mase due to the injury.

    I see you're starting to come around.
    Ballz I love you. But don’t think for a second that you have any influence on a football opinion that I have. Keep doing you tho and again I love you.

    And I’ve been around on Oregon having an overrated class because all of my friends are rich ass Oregon kids who don’t know shit. I do like a lot of their players but it’s a total Sark class.
    Dude, Mario is way better recruiter than sark. Have some respect
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    LaMichael_CorleoneLaMichael_Corleone Member Posts: 1,316
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    The DT/DE/OLB stuff is interesting as well. Lets pencil Funa in Hollins spot and pencil KT where Jelks is. That’s amazing. But in a system where you only play 2 DT’s for UDUB to get these guys it’s like getting a two deep of KT/Funa.


    But my whole point was the depth of Oregon’s class that scares me because Townsend and Ma’ae are back up plans for Latu and Trice. I just feel that way about a lot of Oregon’s class.


    Keyon ware and sua’va would be behind Tui, Bandes, and Paama by quite a ways (basing this all off film). ILB they picked up that Mathis kid late and I don’t think funa is going to play inside. I wasn’t saying safety was major for them but if you look at all these guys they aren’t #1/#2 options outside of KT, Jonah, and Wright and kind of Mase due to the injury.

    I see you're starting to come around.
    Ballz I love you. But don’t think for a second that you have any influence on a football opinion that I have. Keep doing you tho and again I love you.

    And I’ve been around on Oregon having an overrated class because all of my friends are rich ass Oregon kids who don’t know shit. I do like a lot of their players but it’s a total Sark class.
    Dude, Mario is way better recruiter than sark. Have some respect
    I have a lot of respect and love for Mario Cristobal I actually just wanna hang out with him in Miami and eat food and see the face he makes when his kids piss him off. One of the best things from this season was the emergence of Mario frustrated face that first came to fruition in the Stanford game.


    I like this class, I like KT, I’ve always loved Funa, Mycah is a perfect Oregon possession WR, there’s a lot of things to love. I just think for people to be calling it a “Top 5 class” can kinda give false expectations to my Oregon friends who I have to kinda talk down and go through to show them to still take it slow and there’s nothing wrong with going 8-4 right now. I don’t wanna be dooging or saying they suck I just have to reason with people so that when they go 8-4 they aren’t all trying to kill themselves because they thought they were gonna win a natty.
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    ntxduckntxduck Member Posts: 5,516
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    The DT/DE/OLB stuff is interesting as well. Lets pencil Funa in Hollins spot and pencil KT where Jelks is. That’s amazing. But in a system where you only play 2 DT’s for UDUB to get these guys it’s like getting a two deep of KT/Funa.


    But my whole point was the depth of Oregon’s class that scares me because Townsend and Ma’ae are back up plans for Latu and Trice. I just feel that way about a lot of Oregon’s class.


    Keyon ware and sua’va would be behind Tui, Bandes, and Paama by quite a ways (basing this all off film). ILB they picked up that Mathis kid late and I don’t think funa is going to play inside. I wasn’t saying safety was major for them but if you look at all these guys they aren’t #1/#2 options outside of KT, Jonah, and Wright and kind of Mase due to the injury.

    I see you're starting to come around.
    Ballz I love you. But don’t think for a second that you have any influence on a football opinion that I have. Keep doing you tho and again I love you.

    And I’ve been around on Oregon having an overrated class because all of my friends are rich ass Oregon kids who don’t know shit. I do like a lot of their players but it’s a total Sark class.
    Dude, Mario is way better recruiter than sark. Have some respect
    I have a lot of respect and love for Mario Cristobal I actually just wanna hang out with him in Miami and eat food and see the face he makes when his kids piss him off. One of the best things from this season was the emergence of Mario frustrated face that first came to fruition in the Stanford game.


    I like this class, I like KT, I’ve always loved Funa, Mycah is a perfect Oregon possession WR, there’s a lot of things to love. I just think for people to be calling it a “Top 5 class” can kinda give false expectations to my Oregon friends who I have to kinda talk down and go through to show them to still take it slow and there’s nothing wrong with going 8-4 right now. I don’t wanna be dooging or saying they suck I just have to reason with people so that when they go 8-4 they aren’t all trying to kill themselves because they thought they were gonna win a natty.
    You will never convince Quooks that they don't have a chance to win the natty in any given year. It's why quooks are fucking awful. Some quooks were convinced Oregon was going to the playoff the year we got Prukop...
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    LaMichael_CorleoneLaMichael_Corleone Member Posts: 1,316
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    ntxduck said:

    The DT/DE/OLB stuff is interesting as well. Lets pencil Funa in Hollins spot and pencil KT where Jelks is. That’s amazing. But in a system where you only play 2 DT’s for UDUB to get these guys it’s like getting a two deep of KT/Funa.


    But my whole point was the depth of Oregon’s class that scares me because Townsend and Ma’ae are back up plans for Latu and Trice. I just feel that way about a lot of Oregon’s class.


    Keyon ware and sua’va would be behind Tui, Bandes, and Paama by quite a ways (basing this all off film). ILB they picked up that Mathis kid late and I don’t think funa is going to play inside. I wasn’t saying safety was major for them but if you look at all these guys they aren’t #1/#2 options outside of KT, Jonah, and Wright and kind of Mase due to the injury.

    I see you're starting to come around.
    Ballz I love you. But don’t think for a second that you have any influence on a football opinion that I have. Keep doing you tho and again I love you.

    And I’ve been around on Oregon having an overrated class because all of my friends are rich ass Oregon kids who don’t know shit. I do like a lot of their players but it’s a total Sark class.
    Dude, Mario is way better recruiter than sark. Have some respect
    I have a lot of respect and love for Mario Cristobal I actually just wanna hang out with him in Miami and eat food and see the face he makes when his kids piss him off. One of the best things from this season was the emergence of Mario frustrated face that first came to fruition in the Stanford game.


    I like this class, I like KT, I’ve always loved Funa, Mycah is a perfect Oregon possession WR, there’s a lot of things to love. I just think for people to be calling it a “Top 5 class” can kinda give false expectations to my Oregon friends who I have to kinda talk down and go through to show them to still take it slow and there’s nothing wrong with going 8-4 right now. I don’t wanna be dooging or saying they suck I just have to reason with people so that when they go 8-4 they aren’t all trying to kill themselves because they thought they were gonna win a natty.
    You will never convince Quooks that they don't have a chance to win the natty in any given year. It's why quooks are fucking awful. Some quooks were convinced Oregon was going to the playoff the year we got Prukop...
    This year and last year in the horrible town of lake Oswego, I had to teach an expectation management class to all my Swaggart and Super Mario fans Jesus Christ. You don’t go 4-8 then replace the coach and go 10-2 then replace that coach and go undefeated. That’s not how it works haha


    They also don’t understand this whole Oregon being a conference champ all the time is new. You aren’t a blue blood just because you had a good run and weren’t a fan before that run. The entitlement to just automatically win double digit games every year is ridiculous.
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    ntxduck said:

    The DT/DE/OLB stuff is interesting as well. Lets pencil Funa in Hollins spot and pencil KT where Jelks is. That’s amazing. But in a system where you only play 2 DT’s for UDUB to get these guys it’s like getting a two deep of KT/Funa.


    But my whole point was the depth of Oregon’s class that scares me because Townsend and Ma’ae are back up plans for Latu and Trice. I just feel that way about a lot of Oregon’s class.


    Keyon ware and sua’va would be behind Tui, Bandes, and Paama by quite a ways (basing this all off film). ILB they picked up that Mathis kid late and I don’t think funa is going to play inside. I wasn’t saying safety was major for them but if you look at all these guys they aren’t #1/#2 options outside of KT, Jonah, and Wright and kind of Mase due to the injury.

    I see you're starting to come around.
    Ballz I love you. But don’t think for a second that you have any influence on a football opinion that I have. Keep doing you tho and again I love you.

    And I’ve been around on Oregon having an overrated class because all of my friends are rich ass Oregon kids who don’t know shit. I do like a lot of their players but it’s a total Sark class.
    Dude, Mario is way better recruiter than sark. Have some respect
    I have a lot of respect and love for Mario Cristobal I actually just wanna hang out with him in Miami and eat food and see the face he makes when his kids piss him off. One of the best things from this season was the emergence of Mario frustrated face that first came to fruition in the Stanford game.


    I like this class, I like KT, I’ve always loved Funa, Mycah is a perfect Oregon possession WR, there’s a lot of things to love. I just think for people to be calling it a “Top 5 class” can kinda give false expectations to my Oregon friends who I have to kinda talk down and go through to show them to still take it slow and there’s nothing wrong with going 8-4 right now. I don’t wanna be dooging or saying they suck I just have to reason with people so that when they go 8-4 they aren’t all trying to kill themselves because they thought they were gonna win a natty.
    You will never convince Quooks that they don't have a chance to win the natty in any given year. It's why quooks are fucking awful. Some quooks were convinced Oregon was going to the playoff the year we got Prukop...
    The hype over this recruiting class is going to have a net negative effect on quook morale in 2019. The 18 year old blue chips won't turn a mid tier team, minus it's NFL QB and best player on a bad defense, into a playoff contender. Rebuilding is a painful process to inexperienced fans. I'm not sure Oregon's fan base can survive it. OBK is a pretty good example.
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