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Why do you only associate with poor people?BennyBeaver said:
You can’t tell us because the number cuz you’re making shit up.PurpleThrobber said:
You hit on a MAJOR pet peeve of The Throbber.MikeDamone said:
Funny story - I was talking to a public school teacher who was telling me the issues with the inner city schools. She has kids in private elementary school. I suggested vouchers were the answer so the inner city kids could attend the same schools as her kids. She came up with tons of reasons why it wouldn’t work. Transportation problems, too far from home, blah blah. I said, yeah, best to keep out the riff raff. She didn’t have much to say.. Cool story bro, but the truth is the people who care so much about the inner city kids, don’t want them within several miles of their kids.WestlinnDuck said:
This last election featured dem politicians arguing how we needed more money for education and it was all about the children. Of course, they could care less about the children but they care deeply about the power and the money of the teacher’s unions. Of course, we have spent hundreds of billions in additional “education” dollars and the result is no improvement in actual education, if not a deterioration in educational prowess.
So, the Portland Public school district has general fund revenue of $706 million. It has 49,000 students. It spends $14,400 per student on education. Jesuit High School is the leading Catholic high school in the Portland area. It spends $17,750 to educate each student. The Lady of the Lake Catholic school in Lake Oswego (Portland’s wealthiest suburb) spends 10,000 to educate each of its grades 1-8 students. Obviously, it takes more money to educate a high schooler than a first grader. So, call per student spending even.
Catholic school teachers generally make less than public school teachers, especially when benefits are added – PERS and near 100% medical coverage.
Leftards would poke their eyes out with a spoon before they would consider a voucher program that lets an inner city Portland school kid attend Jesuit. Because they care. So much.
I can't tell you how many principals and high-level administrators (all making $150K+cadillac bennies) who send their kids to private schools. Pisses me off to no end.
If you're a Ford dealer, you don't drive a fucking Chevy.
Same thing with the so-called "christians" who send their kids to private school for religious reasons. Jesus went to be with the sinners not the priests. Go forth and witness, motherfuckers. Hypocritical bastards - all of them.
The only ones who are honest are the parents who send their kids to private schools because of kick ass athletic programs and say that's the reason.
I know/ have know hundreds of public school educators and administrators, zero sent their kids to private school. -
So your whole catholic school rant was made up bullshit. Thought so.BennyBeaver said:
I asked why. @CirrhosisDawg probably has valid reasons.MikeDamone said:A
So you’re a religious nut who supports patriarchal , misogynistic, rape-culture? BenneyBeaver says so.CirrhosisDawg said:Many, but not all, charter schools do great work. California has over 1,000 of them. It’s an amazing movement: Public schools that are customized to local preferences — military, foreign language, science, athletics, etc. So far, they’ve kept the teacher unions at bay in the legislature. Jerry Brown was a huge advocate.
I am on the board of an inner city LAUSD Charter with two campuses and 700 kids enrolled. The academic results are far in excess of the comparable public schools.
My 7th grader is at Catholic school. We are looking at Catholic, public and charter for high school. The point is that there are choices that work academically and financially. At least there are in California.
I sent 3 through Catholic school. We had good reasons (we thought) at the time. In hindsight, wouldn’t do it again. -
I’m like Jesus that way.MikeDamone said:A
Why do you only associate with poor people?BennyBeaver said:
You can’t tell us because the number cuz you’re making shit up.PurpleThrobber said:
You hit on a MAJOR pet peeve of The Throbber.MikeDamone said:
Funny story - I was talking to a public school teacher who was telling me the issues with the inner city schools. She has kids in private elementary school. I suggested vouchers were the answer so the inner city kids could attend the same schools as her kids. She came up with tons of reasons why it wouldn’t work. Transportation problems, too far from home, blah blah. I said, yeah, best to keep out the riff raff. She didn’t have much to say.. Cool story bro, but the truth is the people who care so much about the inner city kids, don’t want them within several miles of their kids.WestlinnDuck said:
This last election featured dem politicians arguing how we needed more money for education and it was all about the children. Of course, they could care less about the children but they care deeply about the power and the money of the teacher’s unions. Of course, we have spent hundreds of billions in additional “education” dollars and the result is no improvement in actual education, if not a deterioration in educational prowess.
So, the Portland Public school district has general fund revenue of $706 million. It has 49,000 students. It spends $14,400 per student on education. Jesuit High School is the leading Catholic high school in the Portland area. It spends $17,750 to educate each student. The Lady of the Lake Catholic school in Lake Oswego (Portland’s wealthiest suburb) spends 10,000 to educate each of its grades 1-8 students. Obviously, it takes more money to educate a high schooler than a first grader. So, call per student spending even.
Catholic school teachers generally make less than public school teachers, especially when benefits are added – PERS and near 100% medical coverage.
Leftards would poke their eyes out with a spoon before they would consider a voucher program that lets an inner city Portland school kid attend Jesuit. Because they care. So much.
I can't tell you how many principals and high-level administrators (all making $150K+cadillac bennies) who send their kids to private schools. Pisses me off to no end.
If you're a Ford dealer, you don't drive a fucking Chevy.
Same thing with the so-called "christians" who send their kids to private school for religious reasons. Jesus went to be with the sinners not the priests. Go forth and witness, motherfuckers. Hypocritical bastards - all of them.
The only ones who are honest are the parents who send their kids to private schools because of kick ass athletic programs and say that's the reason.
I know/ have know hundreds of public school educators and administrators, zero sent their kids to private school.
I actually know a lot of rich people too. My husband’s school tuition is $35k year, 5th-12th. -
hrykMikeDamone said:
Most, if not all, of the people I know who send there kids to private school (religious or secular) do it for sports, and so their kids don’t have to deal with peices of shit kids who just disrupt everything. I haven’t met any who do it for religious training. Fuck. I know an atheist family who sent their kids to Jesuit and one to Oregon Episcopal. One of them got a full athletic scholarship to Stanford.PurpleThrobber said:
You hit on a MAJOR pet peeve of The Throbber.MikeDamone said:
Funny story - I was talking to a public school teacher who was telling me the issues with the inner city schools. She has kids in private elementary school. I suggested vouchers were the answer so the inner city kids could attend the same schools as her kids. She came up with tons of reasons why it wouldn’t work. Transportation problems, too far from home, blah blah. I said, yeah, best to keep out the riff raff. She didn’t have much to say.. Cool story bro, but the truth is the people who care so much about the inner city kids, don’t want them within several miles of their kids.WestlinnDuck said:
This last election featured dem politicians arguing how we needed more money for education and it was all about the children. Of course, they could care less about the children but they care deeply about the power and the money of the teacher’s unions. Of course, we have spent hundreds of billions in additional “education” dollars and the result is no improvement in actual education, if not a deterioration in educational prowess.
So, the Portland Public school district has general fund revenue of $706 million. It has 49,000 students. It spends $14,400 per student on education. Jesuit High School is the leading Catholic high school in the Portland area. It spends $17,750 to educate each student. The Lady of the Lake Catholic school in Lake Oswego (Portland’s wealthiest suburb) spends 10,000 to educate each of its grades 1-8 students. Obviously, it takes more money to educate a high schooler than a first grader. So, call per student spending even.
Catholic school teachers generally make less than public school teachers, especially when benefits are added – PERS and near 100% medical coverage.
Leftards would poke their eyes out with a spoon before they would consider a voucher program that lets an inner city Portland school kid attend Jesuit. Because they care. So much.
I can't tell you how many principals and high-level administrators (all making $150K+cadillac bennies) who send their kids to private schools. Pisses me off to no end.
If you're a Ford dealer, you don't drive a fucking Chevy.
Same thing with the so-called "christians" who send their kids to private school for religious reasons. Jesus went to be with the sinners not the priests. Go forth and witness, motherfuckers. Hypocritical bastards - all of them.
The only ones who are honest are the parents who send their kids to private schools because of kick ass athletic programs and say that's the reason.
Although most even wealthy non religious parents would probably be OK with their kids not having to go through gender awareness training. The real religious people home school.
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Answer: To keep them from being brainwashed by communist SJWs. Which is far more insidious than Catholicism, which none of the parochial school kids believe anyway.BennyBeaver said:Does Jesuit or any other private school have a requirement by Federal law to accommodate every student regardless of ability or desire? Do you realize how much more it costs to educate a child with Downs, Autism or any other mental or physical disability? I don't have hard figures but it's is exponentially more expensive. Many kids are getting one on one instruction.
Do you have any proof that Jesuit's education is superior to Lincoln, Grant, Wilson or any other Portland public high school? I'm not talking about overall college acceptance rates or biased test scores. I'm asking about an unbiased educational measurement. For example, do you have a data that corrects for household income, family structure and other very highly correlated indicators?
Why would anyone want their child indoctrinated into the patriarchal, misogynistic, rape-culture cult of the Catholic Church? -
Careful. You'll piss off a lot of people in chronic denial when you write stuff like that.MikeDamone said:
Jesus Christ - “corrects for family structure”. I’ll remember to correct for family structure when I’m doing my next round of hiring. Fuck off.BennyBeaver said:Does Jesuit or any other private school have a requirement by Federal law to accommodate every student regardless of ability or desire? Do you realize how much more it costs to educate a child with Downs, Autism or any other mental or physical disability? I don't have hard figures but it's is exponentially more expensive. Many kids are getting one on one instruction.
Do you have any proof that Jesuit's education is superior to Lincoln, Grant, Wilson or any other Portland public high school? I'm not talking about overall college acceptance rates or biased test scores. I'm asking about an unbiased educational measurement. For example, do you have a data that corrects for household income, family structure and other very highly correlated indicators?
Why would anyone want their child indoctrinated into the patriarchal, misogynistic, rape-culture cult of the Catholic Church?
Yes, we know, it’s still about families who stay together, work, value education and demand their kids are respectful and disciplined. So let’s correct for parents that don’t give a fuck? Sorry, those kids won’t do so well and no amount of money poured into schools will help. Because the school isn’t the fucking problem. -
You’re aware that he missed point completely, right?TurdBuffer said:
Careful. You'll piss off a lot of people in chronic denial when you write stuff like that.MikeDamone said:
Jesus Christ - “corrects for family structure”. I’ll remember to correct for family structure when I’m doing my next round of hiring. Fuck off.BennyBeaver said:Does Jesuit or any other private school have a requirement by Federal law to accommodate every student regardless of ability or desire? Do you realize how much more it costs to educate a child with Downs, Autism or any other mental or physical disability? I don't have hard figures but it's is exponentially more expensive. Many kids are getting one on one instruction.
Do you have any proof that Jesuit's education is superior to Lincoln, Grant, Wilson or any other Portland public high school? I'm not talking about overall college acceptance rates or biased test scores. I'm asking about an unbiased educational measurement. For example, do you have a data that corrects for household income, family structure and other very highly correlated indicators?
Why would anyone want their child indoctrinated into the patriarchal, misogynistic, rape-culture cult of the Catholic Church?
Yes, we know, it’s still about families who stay together, work, value education and demand their kids are respectful and disciplined. So let’s correct for parents that don’t give a fuck? Sorry, those kids won’t do so well and no amount of money poured into schools will help. Because the school isn’t the fucking problem. -
Well I don't know hundreds, but I do know several SSD Administrators, including several principals and vice principals from the South End public schools in Seattle who all sent their kids to private schools. Many to Lakeside, in fact, where several former SSD administrators now hold positions. It's widely known and unsurprising, because a hookup is a hookup, gents. And when it's your own, you spare no expense or effort to rig the system in their favor.BennyBeaver said:
You can’t tell us because the number cuz you’re making shit up.PurpleThrobber said:
You hit on a MAJOR pet peeve of The Throbber.MikeDamone said:
Funny story - I was talking to a public school teacher who was telling me the issues with the inner city schools. She has kids in private elementary school. I suggested vouchers were the answer so the inner city kids could attend the same schools as her kids. She came up with tons of reasons why it wouldn’t work. Transportation problems, too far from home, blah blah. I said, yeah, best to keep out the riff raff. She didn’t have much to say.. Cool story bro, but the truth is the people who care so much about the inner city kids, don’t want them within several miles of their kids.WestlinnDuck said:
This last election featured dem politicians arguing how we needed more money for education and it was all about the children. Of course, they could care less about the children but they care deeply about the power and the money of the teacher’s unions. Of course, we have spent hundreds of billions in additional “education” dollars and the result is no improvement in actual education, if not a deterioration in educational prowess.
So, the Portland Public school district has general fund revenue of $706 million. It has 49,000 students. It spends $14,400 per student on education. Jesuit High School is the leading Catholic high school in the Portland area. It spends $17,750 to educate each student. The Lady of the Lake Catholic school in Lake Oswego (Portland’s wealthiest suburb) spends 10,000 to educate each of its grades 1-8 students. Obviously, it takes more money to educate a high schooler than a first grader. So, call per student spending even.
Catholic school teachers generally make less than public school teachers, especially when benefits are added – PERS and near 100% medical coverage.
Leftards would poke their eyes out with a spoon before they would consider a voucher program that lets an inner city Portland school kid attend Jesuit. Because they care. So much.
I can't tell you how many principals and high-level administrators (all making $150K+cadillac bennies) who send their kids to private schools. Pisses me off to no end.
If you're a Ford dealer, you don't drive a fucking Chevy.
Same thing with the so-called "christians" who send their kids to private school for religious reasons. Jesus went to be with the sinners not the priests. Go forth and witness, motherfuckers. Hypocritical bastards - all of them.
The only ones who are honest are the parents who send their kids to private schools because of kick ass athletic programs and say that's the reason.
I know/ have know hundreds of public school educators and administrators, zero sent their kids to private school. -
Riiiiiight.TurdBuffer said:
Well I don't know hundreds, but I do know several SSD Administrators, including several principals and vice principals from the South End public schools in Seattle who all sent their kids to private schools. Many to Lakeside, in fact, where several former SSD administrators now hold positions. It's widely known and unsurprising, because a hookup is a hookup, gents. And when it's your own, you spare no expense or effort to rig the system in their favor.BennyBeaver said:
You can’t tell us because the number cuz you’re making shit up.PurpleThrobber said:
You hit on a MAJOR pet peeve of The Throbber.MikeDamone said:
Funny story - I was talking to a public school teacher who was telling me the issues with the inner city schools. She has kids in private elementary school. I suggested vouchers were the answer so the inner city kids could attend the same schools as her kids. She came up with tons of reasons why it wouldn’t work. Transportation problems, too far from home, blah blah. I said, yeah, best to keep out the riff raff. She didn’t have much to say.. Cool story bro, but the truth is the people who care so much about the inner city kids, don’t want them within several miles of their kids.WestlinnDuck said:
This last election featured dem politicians arguing how we needed more money for education and it was all about the children. Of course, they could care less about the children but they care deeply about the power and the money of the teacher’s unions. Of course, we have spent hundreds of billions in additional “education” dollars and the result is no improvement in actual education, if not a deterioration in educational prowess.
So, the Portland Public school district has general fund revenue of $706 million. It has 49,000 students. It spends $14,400 per student on education. Jesuit High School is the leading Catholic high school in the Portland area. It spends $17,750 to educate each student. The Lady of the Lake Catholic school in Lake Oswego (Portland’s wealthiest suburb) spends 10,000 to educate each of its grades 1-8 students. Obviously, it takes more money to educate a high schooler than a first grader. So, call per student spending even.
Catholic school teachers generally make less than public school teachers, especially when benefits are added – PERS and near 100% medical coverage.
Leftards would poke their eyes out with a spoon before they would consider a voucher program that lets an inner city Portland school kid attend Jesuit. Because they care. So much.
I can't tell you how many principals and high-level administrators (all making $150K+cadillac bennies) who send their kids to private schools. Pisses me off to no end.
If you're a Ford dealer, you don't drive a fucking Chevy.
Same thing with the so-called "christians" who send their kids to private school for religious reasons. Jesus went to be with the sinners not the priests. Go forth and witness, motherfuckers. Hypocritical bastards - all of them.
The only ones who are honest are the parents who send their kids to private schools because of kick ass athletic programs and say that's the reason.
I know/ have know hundreds of public school educators and administrators, zero sent their kids to private school. -
Why would I make it up? I really don't care where their kids go to school, because I'm happy where my kids went. But it's a fact that can be verified without a lot of effort. As I said, it's widely known among district personnel, both teachers and administrators, and the people doing it aren't shy about letting you know their kids go to Bill Gates's Alma Mater.BennyBeaver said:
Riiiiiight.TurdBuffer said:
Well I don't know hundreds, but I do know several SSD Administrators, including several principals and vice principals from the South End public schools in Seattle who all sent their kids to private schools. Many to Lakeside, in fact, where several former SSD administrators now hold positions. It's widely known and unsurprising, because a hookup is a hookup, gents. And when it's your own, you spare no expense or effort to rig the system in their favor.BennyBeaver said:
You can’t tell us because the number cuz you’re making shit up.PurpleThrobber said:
You hit on a MAJOR pet peeve of The Throbber.MikeDamone said:
Funny story - I was talking to a public school teacher who was telling me the issues with the inner city schools. She has kids in private elementary school. I suggested vouchers were the answer so the inner city kids could attend the same schools as her kids. She came up with tons of reasons why it wouldn’t work. Transportation problems, too far from home, blah blah. I said, yeah, best to keep out the riff raff. She didn’t have much to say.. Cool story bro, but the truth is the people who care so much about the inner city kids, don’t want them within several miles of their kids.WestlinnDuck said:
This last election featured dem politicians arguing how we needed more money for education and it was all about the children. Of course, they could care less about the children but they care deeply about the power and the money of the teacher’s unions. Of course, we have spent hundreds of billions in additional “education” dollars and the result is no improvement in actual education, if not a deterioration in educational prowess.
So, the Portland Public school district has general fund revenue of $706 million. It has 49,000 students. It spends $14,400 per student on education. Jesuit High School is the leading Catholic high school in the Portland area. It spends $17,750 to educate each student. The Lady of the Lake Catholic school in Lake Oswego (Portland’s wealthiest suburb) spends 10,000 to educate each of its grades 1-8 students. Obviously, it takes more money to educate a high schooler than a first grader. So, call per student spending even.
Catholic school teachers generally make less than public school teachers, especially when benefits are added – PERS and near 100% medical coverage.
Leftards would poke their eyes out with a spoon before they would consider a voucher program that lets an inner city Portland school kid attend Jesuit. Because they care. So much.
I can't tell you how many principals and high-level administrators (all making $150K+cadillac bennies) who send their kids to private schools. Pisses me off to no end.
If you're a Ford dealer, you don't drive a fucking Chevy.
Same thing with the so-called "christians" who send their kids to private school for religious reasons. Jesus went to be with the sinners not the priests. Go forth and witness, motherfuckers. Hypocritical bastards - all of them.
The only ones who are honest are the parents who send their kids to private schools because of kick ass athletic programs and say that's the reason.
I know/ have know hundreds of public school educators and administrators, zero sent their kids to private school. -
"I'm asking about an unbiased educational measurement. For example, do you have a data that corrects for household income, family structure and other very highly correlated indicators?"
Christ. I know where this is going. I've heard it all a million times before. There is literally no standardized test worth the paper it's written on that you cannot make that argument about. None. Yet recent immigrants to the US who speak a different primary language at home can ace those tests, while too many home grown slackers can't score above the 50th percentile.
Benny, you'll be making this same argument and complaint 100 years from now if you live long enough, because you continue to misdiagnose the problem and demand the wrong solutions. Kids learn by doing and there's no shortcut. Yes, it really is that simple. But there's always someone telling the low performers that it's somebody else's fault, or that the "system" is rigged against them.
Doesn't work. Never has, never will. -
Lie, all you did was expose yourself as a hypocrite and a moron. My “defense” of the pipe bomber consisted of repeating the exact same thing Chris Cuomo said about Antifa, in regards to the pipe bomber, which you swore wasn’t a defense them.2001400ex said:
Best part is I got both Bob and sledog to defend the pipe bomb dude today.RaceBannon said:Pipe bombs man. Pipe bombs
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No. I'm not. One thing the Throbber is not is a liar. Mrs. Throbber worked in that world for many years. Daddy Throbber #1 did too and stayed connected until he passed - but his generation didn't do that shit. It's the boomers who play that tune.BennyBeaver said:
You can’t tell us because the number cuz you’re making shit up.PurpleThrobber said:
You hit on a MAJOR pet peeve of The Throbber.MikeDamone said:
Funny story - I was talking to a public school teacher who was telling me the issues with the inner city schools. She has kids in private elementary school. I suggested vouchers were the answer so the inner city kids could attend the same schools as her kids. She came up with tons of reasons why it wouldn’t work. Transportation problems, too far from home, blah blah. I said, yeah, best to keep out the riff raff. She didn’t have much to say.. Cool story bro, but the truth is the people who care so much about the inner city kids, don’t want them within several miles of their kids.WestlinnDuck said:
This last election featured dem politicians arguing how we needed more money for education and it was all about the children. Of course, they could care less about the children but they care deeply about the power and the money of the teacher’s unions. Of course, we have spent hundreds of billions in additional “education” dollars and the result is no improvement in actual education, if not a deterioration in educational prowess.
So, the Portland Public school district has general fund revenue of $706 million. It has 49,000 students. It spends $14,400 per student on education. Jesuit High School is the leading Catholic high school in the Portland area. It spends $17,750 to educate each student. The Lady of the Lake Catholic school in Lake Oswego (Portland’s wealthiest suburb) spends 10,000 to educate each of its grades 1-8 students. Obviously, it takes more money to educate a high schooler than a first grader. So, call per student spending even.
Catholic school teachers generally make less than public school teachers, especially when benefits are added – PERS and near 100% medical coverage.
Leftards would poke their eyes out with a spoon before they would consider a voucher program that lets an inner city Portland school kid attend Jesuit. Because they care. So much.
I can't tell you how many principals and high-level administrators (all making $150K+cadillac bennies) who send their kids to private schools. Pisses me off to no end.
If you're a Ford dealer, you don't drive a fucking Chevy.
Same thing with the so-called "christians" who send their kids to private school for religious reasons. Jesus went to be with the sinners not the priests. Go forth and witness, motherfuckers. Hypocritical bastards - all of them.
The only ones who are honest are the parents who send their kids to private schools because of kick ass athletic programs and say that's the reason.
I know/ have know hundreds of public school educators and administrators, zero sent their kids to private school.
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Bob still defending the pipe bomb guy. And pressing.
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It just depends where you live.
Some places everyone sends their kids to private school.
Usually those places have lots of black people.
In Phoenix not many really did. There were like 2 I ever knew anyone at. -
Funny story - Arizona has some of the highest ranked schools in the nation. They are all charter schools. Arizona also is one of the lowest in teacher pay. I’m not saying the two are related, don’t twist. I just find it chinterestingPitchfork51 said:It just depends where you live.
Some places everyone sends their kids to private school.
Usually those places have lots of black people.
In Phoenix not many really did. There were like 2 I ever knew anyone at. -
Hilarious.MikeDamone said:
Funny story - Arizona has some of the highest ranked schools in the nation. They are all charter schools. Arizona also is one of the lowest in teacher pay. I’m not saying the two are related, don’t twist. I just find it chinterestingPitchfork51 said:It just depends where you live.
Some places everyone sends their kids to private school.
Usually those places have lots of black people.
In Phoenix not many really did. There were like 2 I ever knew anyone at. -
Hondo still a lightweight lying Kunt.2001400ex said:Bob still defending the pipe bomb guy. And pressing.
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Your inference about my position is incorrect and I don't disagree with most of what you typed above. I was clear in my post, if you and others want to extrapolate erroneous meaning...have fun.TurdBuffer said:"I'm asking about an unbiased educational measurement. For example, do you have a data that corrects for household income, family structure and other very highly correlated indicators?"
Christ. I know where this is going. I've heard it all a million times before. There is literally no standardized test worth the paper it's written on that you cannot make that argument about. None. Yet recent immigrants to the US who speak a different primary language at home can ace those tests, while too many home grown slackers can't score above the 50th percentile.
Benny, you'll be making this same argument and complaint 100 years from now if you live long enough, because you continue to misdiagnose the problem and demand the wrong solutions. Kids learn by doing and there's no shortcut. Yes, it really is that simple. But there's always someone telling the low performers that it's somebody else's fault, or that the "system" is rigged against them.
Doesn't work. Never has, never will.
I'm pretty sure that you just put up a strawman but I'd have to defer to @creepycoug and @SFGbob to find out if your ass-fucking it or not. Either way, the strawman would like a reach around. -
Get over it for fuck's sake...PurpleThrobber said:
You hit on a MAJOR pet peeve of The Throbber.MikeDamone said:
Funny story - I was talking to a public school teacher who was telling me the issues with the inner city schools. She has kids in private elementary school. I suggested vouchers were the answer so the inner city kids could attend the same schools as her kids. She came up with tons of reasons why it wouldn’t work. Transportation problems, too far from home, blah blah. I said, yeah, best to keep out the riff raff. She didn’t have much to say.. Cool story bro, but the truth is the people who care so much about the inner city kids, don’t want them within several miles of their kids.WestlinnDuck said:
This last election featured dem politicians arguing how we needed more money for education and it was all about the children. Of course, they could care less about the children but they care deeply about the power and the money of the teacher’s unions. Of course, we have spent hundreds of billions in additional “education” dollars and the result is no improvement in actual education, if not a deterioration in educational prowess.
So, the Portland Public school district has general fund revenue of $706 million. It has 49,000 students. It spends $14,400 per student on education. Jesuit High School is the leading Catholic high school in the Portland area. It spends $17,750 to educate each student. The Lady of the Lake Catholic school in Lake Oswego (Portland’s wealthiest suburb) spends 10,000 to educate each of its grades 1-8 students. Obviously, it takes more money to educate a high schooler than a first grader. So, call per student spending even.
Catholic school teachers generally make less than public school teachers, especially when benefits are added – PERS and near 100% medical coverage.
Leftards would poke their eyes out with a spoon before they would consider a voucher program that lets an inner city Portland school kid attend Jesuit. Because they care. So much.
I can't tell you how many principals and high-level administrators (all making $150K+cadillac bennies) who send their kids to private schools. Pisses me off to no end.
If you're a Ford dealer, you don't drive a fucking Chevy.
Same thing with the so-called "christians" who send their kids to private school for religious reasons. Jesus went to be with the sinners not the priests. Go forth and witness, motherfuckers. Hypocritical bastards - all of them.
The only ones who are honest are the parents who send their kids to private schools because of kick ass athletic programs and say that's the reason.
I went to shitty public shools in Oakland and S. Sa. Francisco as a mixed race kid. I get the struggle.
Wife went to rich schools in Bellevue.
We chose to live in Denver proper for my work, but send the kids to school in Golden...for obvious reasons.
Fast forward a few years...wife now is working a high-level admin job for impoverished schools and charters in Denver/Aurora area.
By your logic @PurpleThrobber, we should pull them out of their posh schools and place them in the failing districts in Denver?
Fuck that.
You don't limit your children's academic environment to make a point for your "district or school."
You do it for your kids if you have the means.
Period. End of story.
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Couldn't care less. If you could care less, then you could care less, and your point would be, well, rather pointless.WestlinnDuck said:
This last election featured dem politicians arguing how we needed more money for education and it was all about the children. Of course, they could care less about the children but they care deeply about the power and the money of the teacher’s unions. Of course, we have spent hundreds of billions in additional “education” dollars and the result is no improvement in actual education, if not a deterioration in educational prowess.
So, the Portland Public school district has general fund revenue of $706 million. It has 49,000 students. It spends $14,400 per student on education. Jesuit High School is the leading Catholic high school in the Portland area. It spends $17,750 to educate each student. The Lady of the Lake Catholic school in Lake Oswego (Portland’s wealthiest suburb) spends 10,000 to educate each of its grades 1-8 students. Obviously, it takes more money to educate a high schooler than a first grader. So, call per student spending even.
Catholic school teachers generally make less than public school teachers, especially when benefits are added – PERS and near 100% medical coverage.
Leftards would poke their eyes out with a spoon before they would consider a voucher program that lets an inner city Portland school kid attend Jesuit. Because they care. So much.
Christ. I'm starting to wonder what the GED % is around here. -
My school must have been like 40 percent Asian
Within 3 miles of microchip Intel Motorola and Honeywell will do that -
Was that English? Or are you expressing your dumb fuck'ness again?Sledog said:
I've heard write a bit of full auto fire and done quite a bit myself. Two different cyclic rates means two guns to me. Prove me wrong.RedRocket said:
Same guy that the 2 Vegas shooters were working for?Sledog said:
He was probably working for your boss.2001400ex said:
Best part is I got both Bob and sledog to defend the pipe bomb dude today.RaceBannon said:Pipe bombs man. Pipe bombs
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Disagree.MisterEm said:
Get over it for fuck's sake...PurpleThrobber said:
You hit on a MAJOR pet peeve of The Throbber.MikeDamone said:
Funny story - I was talking to a public school teacher who was telling me the issues with the inner city schools. She has kids in private elementary school. I suggested vouchers were the answer so the inner city kids could attend the same schools as her kids. She came up with tons of reasons why it wouldn’t work. Transportation problems, too far from home, blah blah. I said, yeah, best to keep out the riff raff. She didn’t have much to say.. Cool story bro, but the truth is the people who care so much about the inner city kids, don’t want them within several miles of their kids.WestlinnDuck said:
This last election featured dem politicians arguing how we needed more money for education and it was all about the children. Of course, they could care less about the children but they care deeply about the power and the money of the teacher’s unions. Of course, we have spent hundreds of billions in additional “education” dollars and the result is no improvement in actual education, if not a deterioration in educational prowess.
So, the Portland Public school district has general fund revenue of $706 million. It has 49,000 students. It spends $14,400 per student on education. Jesuit High School is the leading Catholic high school in the Portland area. It spends $17,750 to educate each student. The Lady of the Lake Catholic school in Lake Oswego (Portland’s wealthiest suburb) spends 10,000 to educate each of its grades 1-8 students. Obviously, it takes more money to educate a high schooler than a first grader. So, call per student spending even.
Catholic school teachers generally make less than public school teachers, especially when benefits are added – PERS and near 100% medical coverage.
Leftards would poke their eyes out with a spoon before they would consider a voucher program that lets an inner city Portland school kid attend Jesuit. Because they care. So much.
I can't tell you how many principals and high-level administrators (all making $150K+cadillac bennies) who send their kids to private schools. Pisses me off to no end.
If you're a Ford dealer, you don't drive a fucking Chevy.
Same thing with the so-called "christians" who send their kids to private school for religious reasons. Jesus went to be with the sinners not the priests. Go forth and witness, motherfuckers. Hypocritical bastards - all of them.
The only ones who are honest are the parents who send their kids to private schools because of kick ass athletic programs and say that's the reason.
I went to shitty public shools in Oakland and S. Sa. Francisco as a mixed race kid. I get the struggle.
Wife went to rich schools in Bellevue.
We chose to live in Denver proper for my work, but send the kids to school in Golden...for obvious reasons.
Fast forward a few years...wife now is working a high-level admin job for impoverished schools and charters in Denver/Aurora area.
By your logic @PurpleThrobber, we should pull them out of their posh schools and place them in the failing districts in Denver?
Fuck that.
You don't limit your children's academic environment to make a point for your "district or school."
You do it for your kids if you have the means.
Period. End of story.
Take the taxpayers monies, live on the gubmint teet under PERS forevah - stay in public schools. They are in every neighborhood in the country. I never said be a martyr and move to the hood. You chose to do that for your own convenience.
You want your cake and eat it too.
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Fine. Maybe I have no clue what your actual point is then. Be clear next time.BennyBeaver said:
Your inference about my position is incorrect and I don't disagree with most of what you typed above. I was clear in my post, if you and others want to extrapolate erroneous meaning...have fun.TurdBuffer said:"I'm asking about an unbiased educational measurement. For example, do you have a data that corrects for household income, family structure and other very highly correlated indicators?"
Christ. I know where this is going. I've heard it all a million times before. There is literally no standardized test worth the paper it's written on that you cannot make that argument about. None. Yet recent immigrants to the US who speak a different primary language at home can ace those tests, while too many home grown slackers can't score above the 50th percentile.
Benny, you'll be making this same argument and complaint 100 years from now if you live long enough, because you continue to misdiagnose the problem and demand the wrong solutions. Kids learn by doing and there's no shortcut. Yes, it really is that simple. But there's always someone telling the low performers that it's somebody else's fault, or that the "system" is rigged against them.
Doesn't work. Never has, never will.
I'm pretty sure that you just put up a strawman but I'd have to defer to @creepycoug and @SFGbob to find out if your ass-fucking it or not. Either way, the strawman would like a reach around.
But I know for a fact I disagree with your "correct for family structure" bullshit. That's not a school or teacher's job. That's a family's job and an indictment of the culture that surrounds it.
I watch this double-standard play out daily in the public schools where uber-liberal teachers make excuses for the worst behaving and worst performing students, at the expense of the kids who want to learn. And now we have zero suspension policies that defy the reality of dangers many kids pose to other students and staff, and is dumber than shit. In Seattle alone, we burn piles upon piles of tax dollars throwing them at problems with solutions that don't work, because we refuse to address shitty, self-centered, narcissistic behavior from shitty performing kids, and instead kiss their ass and put them in talking circles when they throw a chair at a teacher. It's ridiculous, but it originates with the liberal belief that no kid is bad, and if he's acting bad, it can't be his fault. Zero consequences culture. And were I a highly paid SSD administrator, I'd probably put my kid in private school, too. Because I care about my kids. -
The first truly AMERICAN words I've seen written on this shit bored in weeks.MisterEm said:
Get over it for fuck's sake...PurpleThrobber said:
You hit on a MAJOR pet peeve of The Throbber.MikeDamone said:
Funny story - I was talking to a public school teacher who was telling me the issues with the inner city schools. She has kids in private elementary school. I suggested vouchers were the answer so the inner city kids could attend the same schools as her kids. She came up with tons of reasons why it wouldn’t work. Transportation problems, too far from home, blah blah. I said, yeah, best to keep out the riff raff. She didn’t have much to say.. Cool story bro, but the truth is the people who care so much about the inner city kids, don’t want them within several miles of their kids.WestlinnDuck said:
This last election featured dem politicians arguing how we needed more money for education and it was all about the children. Of course, they could care less about the children but they care deeply about the power and the money of the teacher’s unions. Of course, we have spent hundreds of billions in additional “education” dollars and the result is no improvement in actual education, if not a deterioration in educational prowess.
So, the Portland Public school district has general fund revenue of $706 million. It has 49,000 students. It spends $14,400 per student on education. Jesuit High School is the leading Catholic high school in the Portland area. It spends $17,750 to educate each student. The Lady of the Lake Catholic school in Lake Oswego (Portland’s wealthiest suburb) spends 10,000 to educate each of its grades 1-8 students. Obviously, it takes more money to educate a high schooler than a first grader. So, call per student spending even.
Catholic school teachers generally make less than public school teachers, especially when benefits are added – PERS and near 100% medical coverage.
Leftards would poke their eyes out with a spoon before they would consider a voucher program that lets an inner city Portland school kid attend Jesuit. Because they care. So much.
I can't tell you how many principals and high-level administrators (all making $150K+cadillac bennies) who send their kids to private schools. Pisses me off to no end.
If you're a Ford dealer, you don't drive a fucking Chevy.
Same thing with the so-called "christians" who send their kids to private school for religious reasons. Jesus went to be with the sinners not the priests. Go forth and witness, motherfuckers. Hypocritical bastards - all of them.
The only ones who are honest are the parents who send their kids to private schools because of kick ass athletic programs and say that's the reason.
I went to shitty public shools in Oakland and S. Sa. Francisco as a mixed race kid. I get the struggle.
Wife went to rich schools in Bellevue.
We chose to live in Denver proper for my work, but send the kids to school in Golden...for obvious reasons.
Fast forward a few years...wife now is working a high-level admin job for impoverished schools and charters in Denver/Aurora area.
By your logic @PurpleThrobber, we should pull them out of their posh schools and place them in the failing districts in Denver?
Fuck that.
You don't limit your children's academic environment to make a point for your "district or school."
You do it for your kids if you have the means.
Period. End of story.
The new communists are here.
Throbber, stick to perversion, T&A and weird sexual comments. That's your sweet spot (hi?). -
creepycoug said:
The first truly AMERICAN words I've seen written on this shit bored in weeks.MisterEm said:
Get over it for fuck's sake...PurpleThrobber said:
You hit on a MAJOR pet peeve of The Throbber.MikeDamone said:
Funny story - I was talking to a public school teacher who was telling me the issues with the inner city schools. She has kids in private elementary school. I suggested vouchers were the answer so the inner city kids could attend the same schools as her kids. She came up with tons of reasons why it wouldn’t work. Transportation problems, too far from home, blah blah. I said, yeah, best to keep out the riff raff. She didn’t have much to say.. Cool story bro, but the truth is the people who care so much about the inner city kids, don’t want them within several miles of their kids.WestlinnDuck said:
This last election featured dem politicians arguing how we needed more money for education and it was all about the children. Of course, they could care less about the children but they care deeply about the power and the money of the teacher’s unions. Of course, we have spent hundreds of billions in additional “education” dollars and the result is no improvement in actual education, if not a deterioration in educational prowess.
So, the Portland Public school district has general fund revenue of $706 million. It has 49,000 students. It spends $14,400 per student on education. Jesuit High School is the leading Catholic high school in the Portland area. It spends $17,750 to educate each student. The Lady of the Lake Catholic school in Lake Oswego (Portland’s wealthiest suburb) spends 10,000 to educate each of its grades 1-8 students. Obviously, it takes more money to educate a high schooler than a first grader. So, call per student spending even.
Catholic school teachers generally make less than public school teachers, especially when benefits are added – PERS and near 100% medical coverage.
Leftards would poke their eyes out with a spoon before they would consider a voucher program that lets an inner city Portland school kid attend Jesuit. Because they care. So much.
I can't tell you how many principals and high-level administrators (all making $150K+cadillac bennies) who send their kids to private schools. Pisses me off to no end.
If you're a Ford dealer, you don't drive a fucking Chevy.
Same thing with the so-called "christians" who send their kids to private school for religious reasons. Jesus went to be with the sinners not the priests. Go forth and witness, motherfuckers. Hypocritical bastards - all of them.
The only ones who are honest are the parents who send their kids to private schools because of kick ass athletic programs and say that's the reason.
I went to shitty public shools in Oakland and S. Sa. Francisco as a mixed race kid. I get the struggle.
Wife went to rich schools in Bellevue.
We chose to live in Denver proper for my work, but send the kids to school in Golden...for obvious reasons.
Fast forward a few years...wife now is working a high-level admin job for impoverished schools and charters in Denver/Aurora area.
By your logic @PurpleThrobber, we should pull them out of their posh schools and place them in the failing districts in Denver?
Fuck that.
You don't limit your children's academic environment to make a point for your "district or school."
You do it for your kids if you have the means.
Period. End of story.
The new communists are here.
Throbber, stick to perversion, T&A and weird sexual comments. That's your sweet spot (hi?).
No.
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Phongrish. You are the english Nazi. Me I point out hypocrites and type like shit.creepycoug said:
Was that English? Or are you expressing your dumb fuck'ness again?Sledog said:
I've heard write a bit of full auto fire and done quite a bit myself. Two different cyclic rates means two guns to me. Prove me wrong.RedRocket said:
Same guy that the 2 Vegas shooters were working for?Sledog said:
He was probably working for your boss.2001400ex said:
Best part is I got both Bob and sledog to defend the pipe bomb dude today.RaceBannon said:Pipe bombs man. Pipe bombs
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TurdBuffer said:
Fine. Maybe I have no clue what your actual point is then. Be clear next time.BennyBeaver said:
Your inference about my position is incorrect and I don't disagree with most of what you typed above. I was clear in my post, if you and others want to extrapolate erroneous meaning...have fun.TurdBuffer said:"I'm asking about an unbiased educational measurement. For example, do you have a data that corrects for household income, family structure and other very highly correlated indicators?"
Christ. I know where this is going. I've heard it all a million times before. There is literally no standardized test worth the paper it's written on that you cannot make that argument about. None. Yet recent immigrants to the US who speak a different primary language at home can ace those tests, while too many home grown slackers can't score above the 50th percentile.
Benny, you'll be making this same argument and complaint 100 years from now if you live long enough, because you continue to misdiagnose the problem and demand the wrong solutions. Kids learn by doing and there's no shortcut. Yes, it really is that simple. But there's always someone telling the low performers that it's somebody else's fault, or that the "system" is rigged against them.
Doesn't work. Never has, never will.
I'm pretty sure that you just put up a strawman but I'd have to defer to @creepycoug and @SFGbob to find out if your ass-fucking it or not. Either way, the strawman would like a reach around.
But I know for a fact I disagree with your "correct for family structure" bullshit. That's not a school or teacher's job. That's a family's job and an indictment of the culture that surrounds it.
I watch this double-standard play out daily in the public schools where uber-liberal teachers make excuses for the worst behaving and worst performing students, at the expense of the kids who want to learn. And now we have zero suspension policies that defy the reality of dangers many kids pose to other students and staff, and is dumber than shit. In Seattle alone, we burn piles upon piles of tax dollars throwing them at problems with solutions that don't work, because we refuse to address shitty, self-centered, narcissistic behavior from shitty performing kids, and instead kiss their ass and put them in talking circles when they throw a chair at a teacher. It's ridiculous, but it originates with the liberal belief that no kid is bad, and if he's acting bad, it can't be his fault. Zero consequences culture. And were I a highly paid SSD administrator, I'd probably put my kid in private school, too. Because I care about my kids.
If you read my response to the OP you should be able to understand; IF you can let go of what you infer. It was perfectly clear if you can do that. If not, no big deal. I mean you actually kind of grasp it with "That's not a school or teacher's job"
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Understood.Sledog said:
Phongrish. You are the english Nazi. Me I finger my ass and smell it and type with my left hand.creepycoug said:
Was that English? Or are you expressing your dumb fuck'ness again?Sledog said:
I've heard write a bit of full auto fire and done quite a bit myself. Two different cyclic rates means two guns to me. Prove me wrong.RedRocket said:
Same guy that the 2 Vegas shooters were working for?Sledog said:
He was probably working for your boss.2001400ex said:
Best part is I got both Bob and sledog to defend the pipe bomb dude today.RaceBannon said:Pipe bombs man. Pipe bombs
