Nick Herbig, 4* 2020 OLB, Honolulu (St. Louis), HI (Offered 9/27/18)
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I thought this kid was a lock just a few months ago. I agree recruiting needs to get started faster and Pete needs to adjust to an earlier cycle and commits.Meek said:it's really an interesting strategy we have where we insist kids don't commit to us while we watch all the other schools get commits on visits.
That said, the risk of decommits is practically nil which is a huge plus almost no one in the country has. Plus recruiting has only been improving each year. It feels slow and I’ve been watching my favorite prospects bail early, but I’m willing to LIPO -
Genius! If you don’t have any commits, you also can’t have any decommits!DoogCourics said:
I thought this kid was a lock just a few months ago. I agree recruiting needs to get started faster and Pete needs to adjust to an earlier cycle and commits.Meek said:it's really an interesting strategy we have where we insist kids don't commit to us while we watch all the other schools get commits on visits.
That said, the risk of decommits is practically nil which is a huge plus almost no one in the country has. Plus recruiting has only been improving each year. It feels slow and I’ve been watching my favorite prospects bail early, but I’m willing to LIPO -
No, there are only two position groups in which UW really loaded up on last class and can now afford to be very selective at this class. ILB and D-line.dirtysouwfdawg said:
Are you going to keep saying this for position group after position group?StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
Between those two positions, ILB is the only position that is clearly loaded out West in the 2021 class with kids that UW feels very good about.
As usual, you have to understand the context behind what is specifically going on with ILB recruiting. You can't just look at it in a vacuum and say "there goes UW again missing on one of their top targets." Fucking pay attention, think, and use deductive reasoning. They're taking Latu next class over Herbig this class.
We're fortunate to have a coaching staff that is intelligent and looks ahead to future classes when making recruiting decisions for the present class. They saw the 2020 class being low on D-line talent a year ago and preemptively loaded up in the 2019 class in preparation for that. Other coaching staffs are not thinking ahead like that. You have to get the talent at certain positions while the gettin' is good to maximize the talent you're bringing in. The gettin' is very good for ILB's next class so they can afford to pass on Herbig this class and give that scholarship to another position, possibly a fourth WR. -
We got lucky last year with Dline, but it was desperately needed at the time. Two classes before we had zero Dline commits with Ali never enrolling.StrongArmCobra said:
No, there are only two position groups in which UW really loaded up on last class and can now afford to be very selective at this class. ILB and D-line.dirtysouwfdawg said:
Are you going to keep saying this for position group after position group?StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
Between those two positions, ILB is the only position that is clearly loaded out West in the 2021 class with kids that UW feels very good about.
As usual, you have to understand the context behind what is specifically going on with ILB recruiting. You can't just look at it in a vacuum and say "there goes UW again missing on one of their top targets." Fucking pay attention, think, and use deductive reasoning. They're taking Latu next class over Herbig this class.
We're fortunate to have a coaching staff that is intelligent and looks ahead to future classes when making recruiting decisions for the present class. They saw the 2020 class being low on D-line talent a year ago and preemptively loaded up in the 2019 class in preparation for that. Other coaching staffs are not thinking ahead like that. You have to get the talent at certain positions while the gettin' is good to maximize the talent you're bringing in. The gettin' is very good for ILB's next class so they can afford to pass on Herbig this class and give that scholarship to another position, possibly a fourth WR.
We didn’t load up on Dline because we weren’t going to recruit Dline the following year. We loaded up because we could AND we had to. -
I agree. We lost 4 games last year and 3 in '17. Great strategy.StrongArmCobra said:
No, there are only two position groups in which UW really loaded up on last class and can now afford to be very selective at this class. ILB and D-line.dirtysouwfdawg said:
Are you going to keep saying this for position group after position group?StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
Between those two positions, ILB is the only position that is clearly loaded out West in the 2021 class with kids that UW feels very good about.
As usual, you have to understand the context behind what is specifically going on with ILB recruiting. You can't just look at it in a vacuum and say "there goes UW again missing on one of their top targets." Fucking pay attention, think, and use deductive reasoning. They're taking Latu next class over Herbig this class.
We're fortunate to have a coaching staff that is intelligent and looks ahead to future classes when making recruiting decisions for the present class. They saw the 2020 class being low on D-line talent a year ago and preemptively loaded up in the 2019 class in preparation for that. Other coaching staffs are not thinking ahead like that. You have to get the talent at certain positions while the gettin' is good to maximize the talent you're bringing in. The gettin' is very good for ILB's next class so they can afford to pass on Herbig this class and give that scholarship to another position, possibly a fourth WR.
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Yes, D-line was a big need, but the 2020 class is also low on D-line talent. Both played factors in UW loading up.ZoneUW said:
We got lucky last year with Dline, but it was desperately needed at the time. Two classes before we had zero Dline commits with Ali never enrolling.StrongArmCobra said:
No, there are only two position groups in which UW really loaded up on last class and can now afford to be very selective at this class. ILB and D-line.dirtysouwfdawg said:
Are you going to keep saying this for position group after position group?StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
Between those two positions, ILB is the only position that is clearly loaded out West in the 2021 class with kids that UW feels very good about.
As usual, you have to understand the context behind what is specifically going on with ILB recruiting. You can't just look at it in a vacuum and say "there goes UW again missing on one of their top targets." Fucking pay attention, think, and use deductive reasoning. They're taking Latu next class over Herbig this class.
We're fortunate to have a coaching staff that is intelligent and looks ahead to future classes when making recruiting decisions for the present class. They saw the 2020 class being low on D-line talent a year ago and preemptively loaded up in the 2019 class in preparation for that. Other coaching staffs are not thinking ahead like that. You have to get the talent at certain positions while the gettin' is good to maximize the talent you're bringing in. The gettin' is very good for ILB's next class so they can afford to pass on Herbig this class and give that scholarship to another position, possibly a fourth WR.
We didn’t load up on Dline because we weren’t going to recruit Dline the following year. We loaded up because we could AND we had to.
How the fuck was that shit lucky? Malloe busted his ass and built the Poly pipeline. That was nothing but work and effort and it paid off big time for us. -
We didn't pass on Botelho. He wasn't an ILB recruit for us. He was an OLB recruit for us and that was 100% a miss. Again, fucking pay attention.ZoneUW said:Skipping out on a position because next years crop is better works in the nfl
Not in recruiting. Dumb as shit to say we passed on this fellow and Botelho -
Ethan Calvert and Will Latu are UW locks. Trey Reynolds is right in Bob Gregory's wheelhouse being a white kid from Arizona and appeared to be in awe of his UW offer. Keith Brown will be the toughest pull but UW feels good about their chances.UDubHusky23 said:
I do not agree with this at all... because that means putting your trust in bob Gregory to recruit the shit out of Calvert, latu, brown, Reynolds and possibly Simon. Do you trust bob Gregory to lock up the majority of them? He fucking cost us botelho and herbig this year when your saying we could have gotten herbig easily this yr.StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
What happens if we take a shitty lb recruit this year? Will you call it a miss?
Honestly fuck Gregory! What happens next year when we don’t sign some of them? Are you going to say we cooled and didn’t want any of them? Or better yet the class of 2021 recruits are so much better so we’re waiting for lbs in that class? Stool moving the god damn goal posts. We fucked up LB recruiting because Pete thought it would be a good idea to not recruit in late winter/early spring. -
What's your fucking point? Don't be a spoiled little bitch. Three straight 10 win seasons has never been done before at UW, not even by Don James.KrunkJuice said:
I agree. We lost 4 games last year and 3 in '17. Great strategy.StrongArmCobra said:
No, there are only two position groups in which UW really loaded up on last class and can now afford to be very selective at this class. ILB and D-line.dirtysouwfdawg said:
Are you going to keep saying this for position group after position group?StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
Between those two positions, ILB is the only position that is clearly loaded out West in the 2021 class with kids that UW feels very good about.
As usual, you have to understand the context behind what is specifically going on with ILB recruiting. You can't just look at it in a vacuum and say "there goes UW again missing on one of their top targets." Fucking pay attention, think, and use deductive reasoning. They're taking Latu next class over Herbig this class.
We're fortunate to have a coaching staff that is intelligent and looks ahead to future classes when making recruiting decisions for the present class. They saw the 2020 class being low on D-line talent a year ago and preemptively loaded up in the 2019 class in preparation for that. Other coaching staffs are not thinking ahead like that. You have to get the talent at certain positions while the gettin' is good to maximize the talent you're bringing in. The gettin' is very good for ILB's next class so they can afford to pass on Herbig this class and give that scholarship to another position, possibly a fourth WR. -
Oregon just got a commitment form their 3rd safety this cycle. DJDuck needs your opinion over at the Duck Refuge.StrongArmCobra said:
Ethan Calvert and Will Latu are UW locks. Trey Reynolds is right in Bob Gregory's wheelhouse being a white kid from Arizona and appeared to be in awe of his UW offer. Keith Brown will be the toughest pull but UW feels good about their chances.UDubHusky23 said:
I do not agree with this at all... because that means putting your trust in bob Gregory to recruit the shit out of Calvert, latu, brown, Reynolds and possibly Simon. Do you trust bob Gregory to lock up the majority of them? He fucking cost us botelho and herbig this year when your saying we could have gotten herbig easily this yr.StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
What happens if we take a shitty lb recruit this year? Will you call it a miss?
Honestly fuck Gregory! What happens next year when we don’t sign some of them? Are you going to say we cooled and didn’t want any of them? Or better yet the class of 2021 recruits are so much better so we’re waiting for lbs in that class? Stool moving the god damn goal posts. We fucked up LB recruiting because Pete thought it would be a good idea to not recruit in late winter/early spring. -
This past Spring Herbig had an interview in which he was gushing about UW and said he "loves Coach Gregory" and that was "his guy". So the facts don't support your narrative. Herbig absolutely loved UW. If they wanted him, he'd be a Dawg. They passed. Not because he sucks. But because of the 2021 guys they're in on.LaMichael_Corleone said:We passed on Herbig? Hahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahhahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahha
I love when people get upset at me for saying “we don’t actively recruit in the winter and spring” because it just seems so unrealistic that when things like this happen you have to find an even more unrealistic justification to disagree. -
I'm just going to take everything @StrongArmCobra says as gospel and not worry about anything
The coaches got this -
Good manRaceBannon said:I'm just going to take everything @StrongArmCobra says as gospel and not worry about anything
The coaches got this
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It’s all positive...KrunkJuice said:
Oregon just got a commitment form their 3rd safety this cycle. DJDuck needs your opinion over at the Duck Refuge.StrongArmCobra said:
Ethan Calvert and Will Latu are UW locks. Trey Reynolds is right in Bob Gregory's wheelhouse being a white kid from Arizona and appeared to be in awe of his UW offer. Keith Brown will be the toughest pull but UW feels good about their chances.UDubHusky23 said:
I do not agree with this at all... because that means putting your trust in bob Gregory to recruit the shit out of Calvert, latu, brown, Reynolds and possibly Simon. Do you trust bob Gregory to lock up the majority of them? He fucking cost us botelho and herbig this year when your saying we could have gotten herbig easily this yr.StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
What happens if we take a shitty lb recruit this year? Will you call it a miss?
Honestly fuck Gregory! What happens next year when we don’t sign some of them? Are you going to say we cooled and didn’t want any of them? Or better yet the class of 2021 recruits are so much better so we’re waiting for lbs in that class? Stool moving the god damn goal posts. We fucked up LB recruiting because Pete thought it would be a good idea to not recruit in late winter/early spring.
Sarcoma level positive. -
Thank gawd. Wouldn't want another white guy. That would make the natives restless. Not talking about you, Swaye.
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Another kid who will still take other official visits. That's not a commitment. It's a place holder. He's being slow played by USC. Not a guy we wanted anyways and not a kid that's coveted by the big national schools even though he's a 4-star California recruit.KrunkJuice said:
Oregon just got a commitment form their 3rd safety this cycle. DJDuck needs your opinion over at the Duck Refuge.StrongArmCobra said:
Ethan Calvert and Will Latu are UW locks. Trey Reynolds is right in Bob Gregory's wheelhouse being a white kid from Arizona and appeared to be in awe of his UW offer. Keith Brown will be the toughest pull but UW feels good about their chances.UDubHusky23 said:
I do not agree with this at all... because that means putting your trust in bob Gregory to recruit the shit out of Calvert, latu, brown, Reynolds and possibly Simon. Do you trust bob Gregory to lock up the majority of them? He fucking cost us botelho and herbig this year when your saying we could have gotten herbig easily this yr.StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
What happens if we take a shitty lb recruit this year? Will you call it a miss?
Honestly fuck Gregory! What happens next year when we don’t sign some of them? Are you going to say we cooled and didn’t want any of them? Or better yet the class of 2021 recruits are so much better so we’re waiting for lbs in that class? Stool moving the god damn goal posts. We fucked up LB recruiting because Pete thought it would be a good idea to not recruit in late winter/early spring. -
This forum is fucking retarded.
Get white player - Pete hates black people, this guy is okay but sucks, we suck at recruiting, polynesians arent a minority, we suck
Do not get white player - Pete sucks, the assitants suck, we suck at recruiting
DIAFF. All of you -
No more race stuff please.PostGameOrangeSlices said:This forum is fucking retarded.
Get white player - Pete hates black people, this guy is okay but sucks, we suck at recruiting, polynesians arent a minority, we suck
Do not get white player - Pete sucks, the assitants suck, we suck at recruiting
DIAFF. All of you -
Oregon's 1st and 2nd safety commits are about as soft a commitment as you can get. One of them is putting out a top schools list soon. They need to stock their pantryKrunkJuice said:
Oregon just got a commitment form their 3rd safety this cycle. DJDuck needs your opinion over at the Duck Refuge.StrongArmCobra said:
Ethan Calvert and Will Latu are UW locks. Trey Reynolds is right in Bob Gregory's wheelhouse being a white kid from Arizona and appeared to be in awe of his UW offer. Keith Brown will be the toughest pull but UW feels good about their chances.UDubHusky23 said:
I do not agree with this at all... because that means putting your trust in bob Gregory to recruit the shit out of Calvert, latu, brown, Reynolds and possibly Simon. Do you trust bob Gregory to lock up the majority of them? He fucking cost us botelho and herbig this year when your saying we could have gotten herbig easily this yr.StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
What happens if we take a shitty lb recruit this year? Will you call it a miss?
Honestly fuck Gregory! What happens next year when we don’t sign some of them? Are you going to say we cooled and didn’t want any of them? Or better yet the class of 2021 recruits are so much better so we’re waiting for lbs in that class? Stool moving the god damn goal posts. We fucked up LB recruiting because Pete thought it would be a good idea to not recruit in late winter/early spring. -
bananasnblondes said:
Oregon's 1st and 2nd safety commits are about as soft a commitment as you can get. One of them is putting out a top schools list soon. They need to stock their pantryKrunkJuice said:
Oregon just got a commitment form their 3rd safety this cycle. DJDuck needs your opinion over at the Duck Refuge.StrongArmCobra said:
Ethan Calvert and Will Latu are UW locks. Trey Reynolds is right in Bob Gregory's wheelhouse being a white kid from Arizona and appeared to be in awe of his UW offer. Keith Brown will be the toughest pull but UW feels good about their chances.UDubHusky23 said:
I do not agree with this at all... because that means putting your trust in bob Gregory to recruit the shit out of Calvert, latu, brown, Reynolds and possibly Simon. Do you trust bob Gregory to lock up the majority of them? He fucking cost us botelho and herbig this year when your saying we could have gotten herbig easily this yr.StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
What happens if we take a shitty lb recruit this year? Will you call it a miss?
Honestly fuck Gregory! What happens next year when we don’t sign some of them? Are you going to say we cooled and didn’t want any of them? Or better yet the class of 2021 recruits are so much better so we’re waiting for lbs in that class? Stool moving the god damn goal posts. We fucked up LB recruiting because Pete thought it would be a good idea to not recruit in late winter/early spring.
Yep. Between Tae, Slusher and Hill probably one stick. Recruits are put off by how young Oregon’s DB depth chart is.
I think the strategy is take them and let it sort itself out. It’s not like the staff is naive and going to get blindsided by this. -
Bumpdirtysouwfdawg said:
We were all super hard on for this kid earlier, I honestly wasn’t but figured he and Tuli would help with bothello, but now we’re going to miss on both and are ok with it?dirtysouwfdawg said:
WDWHA.... 😐StrongArmCobra said:I'm surprised he doesn't have better schools after him. Outside of UW it's Wisconsin, UCLA, and Virginia? That's weird. He's really good, but I think UW began to cool on him the more the 2021 ILB board began to get worked out during the Spring evaluation period. I don't think UW will take an ILB this class. I think that scholarship will go to a position that's more of a need in this class. I think by not taking Herbig in this class, UW could take up to four 2021 ILB's and the talent available to them is mouth watering.
How many ILB’s will be gone after this yr?
My WDWHA was really a WTF
You’re fucking annoying. You go from super hard on for a kid to “WDWHA” and “coaches have a plan, we’ll be ok.”StrongArmCobra said:
No, there are only two position groups in which UW really loaded up on last class and can now afford to be very selective at this class. ILB and D-line.dirtysouwfdawg said:
Are you going to keep saying this for position group after position group?StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
Between those two positions, ILB is the only position that is clearly loaded out West in the 2021 class with kids that UW feels very good about.
As usual, you have to understand the context behind what is specifically going on with ILB recruiting. You can't just look at it in a vacuum and say "there goes UW again missing on one of their top targets." Fucking pay attention, think, and use deductive reasoning. They're taking Latu next class over Herbig this class.
We're fortunate to have a coaching staff that is intelligent and looks ahead to future classes when making recruiting decisions for the present class. They saw the 2020 class being low on D-line talent a year ago and preemptively loaded up in the 2019 class in preparation for that. Other coaching staffs are not thinking ahead like that. You have to get the talent at certain positions while the gettin' is good to maximize the talent you're bringing in. The gettin' is very good for ILB's next class so they can afford to pass on Herbig this class and give that scholarship to another position, possibly a fourth WR.
Anytime things like this don’t go our way, you always have a positive spin; a reason why’ll it’ll be ok. “It was all part of the plan the whole time.”
They are not going to close all 4 of those fuckers next year. They did have a heavy class LY but to now be ok with not hitting on our top targets is top level doog shit.
GTFO with that.
Get some fucking self awareness... get off the interwebs and do some soul searching with Smalls. -
Like I said, Botelho was a miss at OLB. I'm not a doog who thinks UW passed on everybody they don't get. I know when UW misses on kids and when they pass. Herbig is a pass. You wanna doubt their ability to get who they want next class, that's fine. I'm just telling you what the strategy is. Like I said, Calvert and Latu are locks and will probably be early commits. Those two alone should put any worry to rest. Brown and Reynolds are not long shots by any means. We're in good shape with ILB recruiting. It's OLB recruiting that needs to be consistently better.dirtysouwfdawg said:
Bumpdirtysouwfdawg said:
We were all super hard on for this kid earlier, I honestly wasn’t but figured he and Tuli would help with bothello, but now we’re going to miss on both and are ok with it?dirtysouwfdawg said:
WDWHA.... 😐StrongArmCobra said:I'm surprised he doesn't have better schools after him. Outside of UW it's Wisconsin, UCLA, and Virginia? That's weird. He's really good, but I think UW began to cool on him the more the 2021 ILB board began to get worked out during the Spring evaluation period. I don't think UW will take an ILB this class. I think that scholarship will go to a position that's more of a need in this class. I think by not taking Herbig in this class, UW could take up to four 2021 ILB's and the talent available to them is mouth watering.
How many ILB’s will be gone after this yr?
My WDWHA was really a WTF
You’re fucking annoying. You go from super hard on for a kid to “WDWHA” and “coaches have a plan, we’ll be ok.”StrongArmCobra said:
No, there are only two position groups in which UW really loaded up on last class and can now afford to be very selective at this class. ILB and D-line.dirtysouwfdawg said:
Are you going to keep saying this for position group after position group?StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
Between those two positions, ILB is the only position that is clearly loaded out West in the 2021 class with kids that UW feels very good about.
As usual, you have to understand the context behind what is specifically going on with ILB recruiting. You can't just look at it in a vacuum and say "there goes UW again missing on one of their top targets." Fucking pay attention, think, and use deductive reasoning. They're taking Latu next class over Herbig this class.
We're fortunate to have a coaching staff that is intelligent and looks ahead to future classes when making recruiting decisions for the present class. They saw the 2020 class being low on D-line talent a year ago and preemptively loaded up in the 2019 class in preparation for that. Other coaching staffs are not thinking ahead like that. You have to get the talent at certain positions while the gettin' is good to maximize the talent you're bringing in. The gettin' is very good for ILB's next class so they can afford to pass on Herbig this class and give that scholarship to another position, possibly a fourth WR.
Anytime things like this don’t go our way, you always have a positive spin; a reason why’ll it’ll be ok. “It was all part of the plan the whole time.”
They are not going to close all 4 of those fuckers next year. They did have a heavy class LY but to now be ok with not hitting on our top targets is top level doog shit.
GTFO with that.
Get some fucking self awareness... get off the interwebs and do some soul searching with Smalls. -
Sounds somewhat like the instate OL bumper crop of 2011...or was it 12?StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
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Great comparison. Not apples to oranges at all.chuck said:
Sounds somewhat like the instate OL bumper crop of 2011...or was it 12?StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
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“It doesn’t matter if we get elite ILBs this year because we’re allegedly going to get some next year.”StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
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Identical doogery. You dont get it, and you won't get it, and...I wont help.StrongArmCobra said:
Great comparison. Not apples to oranges at all.chuck said:
Sounds somewhat like the instate OL bumper crop of 2011...or was it 12?StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
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Except it's not. Obviously UW is a much better program than they were under Sark and therefore are recruiting at a much higher level than Sark ever did. The program is beginning to recruit itself. UW has been turning away 4-star talent for a while now. This is nothing new. Back under Sark, we were never gonna get the big recruits in the next class that doogs thought we were gonna get. Under Petersen we have and we will continue to those big recruits. Apples to oranges. It's not doogery anymore. It's real.chuck said:
Identical doogery. You dont get it, and you won't get it, and...I wont help.StrongArmCobra said:
Great comparison. Not apples to oranges at all.chuck said:
Sounds somewhat like the instate OL bumper crop of 2011...or was it 12?StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
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Not a parody. It's real now. We literally just brought in the best ILB haul in the conference this past class and you don't think we can do it again in 2021? It's happening.HillsboroDuck said:
“It doesn’t matter if we get elite ILBs this year because we’re allegedly going to get some next year.”StrongArmCobra said:This is not a fucking miss. We like the 2021 linebackers more than him. We just went from taking three next year to taking four. We traded Herbig for Latu. We're getting Ethan Calvert, Will Latu, Keith Brown, and Trey Reynolds. It will be the best ILB class of all time. Herbig does not matter. You wanted Latu to get the offer and then he did. There is a trade off or opportunity cost for every recruit we take. Passing on Herbig is the opportunity cost of offering Will Latu.
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So the coaches dropped a guy even tho they’ve had later offers out on guys who have barely sniffed us in Kourt Williams and McDonald? So who is the guy they’re dropping Herbig for? Flowe? Botelho?
Most of you would say Bruener right? But we haven’t offered hmmmmm I wonder why? Offering Bruener as a legacy who was in the (now infamous) junior day photo would seem like a lock to Herbig huh? Maybe they wanted Herbig to feel like the #1 guy after Botelho left & Bruener would make him question a team who just took 4 ILBs the year before and a legacy. So if we offer Bruener or anyone in this class is Herbig still a drop?
As for the supposed 2021 dream class, who is the player who has been the most discussed as the kid everyone can’t believe UDUB hasn’t offered? Julien Simon. What position is he being recruited at? Inside Linebacker. Seems weird to be offering Latu after Herbig’s commitment if we dropped Herbig. Washington was the one of if not the last of Keith Brown’s 8 offers. He got his UDUB offer after his Visit to his dream hometown school. Why would the coaches put this much into timing of 2021’s first offers if they just missed their first three offers in 2020?
Botelho, Flowe, and Herbig are by far the best three LBs in an ILB class we’ve had in quite some time. Flowe has a really close brother like relationship with Cam Davis and Botelho & Herbig were once licks at the Poly Bowl never even came on an all expenses paid trip to UDUB which is a bigger deal when from Hawaii. -
Not going to read the 58 responses I haven’t checked, but this doesn’t matter. He’s not going to a rival and we’ll find a guy equally good or better. Idwha.
