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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    edited September 2018
    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Abusive sexual contact.

    Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly engages in sexual contact with another person without that other person’s permission shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

    - 18 U.S. Code § 2244 - Abusive sexual contact

    sexual contact
    (3)the term “sexual contact” means the intentional touching, either directly or through the clothing, of the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;

    STOP! I know the facts. I stipulated to them for fuck sake.

    And if they caused this lady PTSD, then she was damaged goods to begin with.

    Look at her and listen to her, for fuck sake. She's a Child.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Abusive sexual contact.

    Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly engages in sexual contact with another person without that other person’s permission shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

    - 18 U.S. Code § 2244 - Abusive sexual contact

    sexual contact
    (3)the term “sexual contact” means the intentional touching, either directly or through the clothing, of the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;

    STOP! I know the facts. I stipulated to them for fuck sake.

    And if they caused this lady PTSD, then she was damaged goods to begin with.

    Look at her and listen to her, for fuck sake. She's a Child.
    Making fun of the witness is definitely what Republicans should do. That'll resonate well with the voters.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    Since I can't call for genocide, may the next Senator who says "speak their truth" be keel-hauled?
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Dude61 said:

    This hearing has gone poorly for Ford and her credibility, and gets worse for her the longer it goes on. No evidence, no facts, bizarre memory gaps, lies about flying, no idea who bought polygraph.


  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254
    Lindsey Graham: “I’m looking for corroboration - this is not an emotional decision. This is a factual decision... unless something new comes forward, you have just an emotional accusation and emotional denial - without corroboration.”
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Abusive sexual contact.

    Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly engages in sexual contact with another person without that other person’s permission shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

    - 18 U.S. Code § 2244 - Abusive sexual contact

    sexual contact
    (3)the term “sexual contact” means the intentional touching, either directly or through the clothing, of the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;

    STOP! I know the facts. I stipulated to them for fuck sake.

    And if they caused this lady PTSD, then she was damaged goods to begin with.

    Look at her and listen to her, for fuck sake. She's a Child.
    Making fun of the witness is definitely what Republicans should do. That'll resonate well with the voters.
    How does her 7 year old, Valley Girl voice and speech resonate with you, Hondo? I suppose you might have a chance with her if you can tolerate it.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    AZDuck said:

    Dude61 said:

    This hearing has gone poorly for Ford and her credibility, and gets worse for her the longer it goes on. No evidence, no facts, bizarre memory gaps, lies about flying, no idea who bought polygraph.


    Wood 1,000 times over.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Abusive sexual contact.

    Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly engages in sexual contact with another person without that other person’s permission shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

    - 18 U.S. Code § 2244 - Abusive sexual contact

    sexual contact
    (3)the term “sexual contact” means the intentional touching, either directly or through the clothing, of the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;

    STOP! I know the facts. I stipulated to them for fuck sake.

    And if they caused this lady PTSD, then she was damaged goods to begin with.

    Look at her and listen to her, for fuck sake. She's a Child.
    Are you familiar with the legal doctrine of the "eggshell skull?"

    You take your victims as you find them, not as they should be.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Abusive sexual contact.

    Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly engages in sexual contact with another person without that other person’s permission shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

    - 18 U.S. Code § 2244 - Abusive sexual contact

    sexual contact
    (3)the term “sexual contact” means the intentional touching, either directly or through the clothing, of the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;

    STOP! I know the facts. I stipulated to them for fuck sake.

    And if they caused this lady PTSD, then she was damaged goods to begin with.

    Look at her and listen to her, for fuck sake. She's a Child.
    Making fun of the witness is definitely what Republicans should do. That'll resonate well with the voters.
    How does her 7 year old, Valley Girl voice and speech resonate with you, Hondo? I suppose you might have a chance with her if you can tolerate it.
    I haven't watched it. I'm just getting my news from HH.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Abusive sexual contact.

    Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly engages in sexual contact with another person without that other person’s permission shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

    - 18 U.S. Code § 2244 - Abusive sexual contact

    sexual contact
    (3)the term “sexual contact” means the intentional touching, either directly or through the clothing, of the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;

    STOP! I know the facts. I stipulated to them for fuck sake.

    And if they caused this lady PTSD, then she was damaged goods to begin with.

    Look at her and listen to her, for fuck sake. She's a Child.
    Making fun of the witness is definitely what Republicans should do. That'll resonate well with the voters.
    How does her 7 year old, Valley Girl voice and speech resonate with you, Hondo? I suppose you might have a chance with her if you can tolerate it.
    I haven't watched it. I'm just getting my news from HH.
    Pretty much just reading Twatter and some blogs and this place. Like recruiting, but lamer
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Abusive sexual contact.

    Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly engages in sexual contact with another person without that other person’s permission shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

    - 18 U.S. Code § 2244 - Abusive sexual contact

    sexual contact
    (3)the term “sexual contact” means the intentional touching, either directly or through the clothing, of the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;

    STOP! I know the facts. I stipulated to them for fuck sake.

    And if they caused this lady PTSD, then she was damaged goods to begin with.

    Look at her and listen to her, for fuck sake. She's a Child.
    Are you familiar with the legal doctrine of the "eggshell skull?"

    You take your victims as you find them, not as they should be.
    Nice legal theory that juries reject repeatedly in practice. But that's not the point. As Kamala Harris said, she's not on trial. Kavanaugh is.

    This isn't a suit for damages. It's a hearing about judicial competence. Well, it's supposed to be, anyway. But, as of now, it's just another circus and parade.
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254

    2001400ex said:

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Abusive sexual contact.

    Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly engages in sexual contact with another person without that other person’s permission shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

    - 18 U.S. Code § 2244 - Abusive sexual contact

    sexual contact
    (3)the term “sexual contact” means the intentional touching, either directly or through the clothing, of the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;

    STOP! I know the facts. I stipulated to them for fuck sake.

    And if they caused this lady PTSD, then she was damaged goods to begin with.

    Look at her and listen to her, for fuck sake. She's a Child.
    Making fun of the witness is definitely what Republicans should do. That'll resonate well with the voters.
    How does her 7 year old, Valley Girl voice and speech resonate with you, Hondo? I suppose you might have a chance with her if you can tolerate it.
    She is putting on her little girl routine under the advice from counsel.
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254
    Free attorneys for Ford linked to Hillary Clinton and Andrew McCabe. Referred by Dem Sen. Feinstein. Sounds legit.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Abusive sexual contact.

    Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly engages in sexual contact with another person without that other person’s permission shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

    - 18 U.S. Code § 2244 - Abusive sexual contact

    sexual contact
    (3)the term “sexual contact” means the intentional touching, either directly or through the clothing, of the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;

    STOP! I know the facts. I stipulated to them for fuck sake.

    And if they caused this lady PTSD, then she was damaged goods to begin with.

    Look at her and listen to her, for fuck sake. She's a Child.
    Making fun of the witness is definitely what Republicans should do. That'll resonate well with the voters.
    How does her 7 year old, Valley Girl voice and speech resonate with you, Hondo? I suppose you might have a chance with her if you can tolerate it.
    In all seriousness. There are many millions of women with PTSD from stuff like this. Many women know women who have been affected by sexual abuse as a child. Not sure if you are aware of this, but women react differently to things than men do. It is very common for women to have emotional issues later in life from sexual abuses as a child. Same with men abused as kids.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    edited September 2018

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Good thing she didn't grow up on the rez w/ @Swaye
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Does this one brief encounter really rise to the level of sexual abuse?
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Abusive sexual contact.

    Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly engages in sexual contact with another person without that other person’s permission shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

    - 18 U.S. Code § 2244 - Abusive sexual contact

    sexual contact
    (3)the term “sexual contact” means the intentional touching, either directly or through the clothing, of the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;

    STOP! I know the facts. I stipulated to them for fuck sake.

    And if they caused this lady PTSD, then she was damaged goods to begin with.

    Look at her and listen to her, for fuck sake. She's a Child.
    Are you familiar with the legal doctrine of the "eggshell skull?"

    You take your victims as you find them, not as they should be.
    Nice legal theory that juries reject repeatedly in practice. But that's not the point. As Kamala Harris said, she's not on trial. Kavanaugh is.

    This isn't a suit for damages. It's a hearing about judicial competence. Well, it's supposed to be, anyway. But, as of now, it's just another circus and parade.
    dude, most sex assault trials the victim testifies, not the perp
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    SFGbob said:

    Does this one brief encounter really rise to the level of sexual abuse?

    srsly?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    Does this one brief encounter really rise to the level of sexual abuse?

    I just forced you down for two minutes and shoved it in your ass. It was brief so definitely not sexual abuse.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    edited September 2018
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Abusive sexual contact.

    Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly engages in sexual contact with another person without that other person’s permission shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

    - 18 U.S. Code § 2244 - Abusive sexual contact

    sexual contact
    (3)the term “sexual contact” means the intentional touching, either directly or through the clothing, of the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;

    STOP! I know the facts. I stipulated to them for fuck sake.

    And if they caused this lady PTSD, then she was damaged goods to begin with.

    Look at her and listen to her, for fuck sake. She's a Child.
    Making fun of the witness is definitely what Republicans should do. That'll resonate well with the voters.
    How does her 7 year old, Valley Girl voice and speech resonate with you, Hondo? I suppose you might have a chance with her if you can tolerate it.
    In all seriousness. There are many millions of women with PTSD from stuff like this. Many women know women who have been affected by sexual abuse as a child. Not sure if you are aware of this, but women react differently to things than men do. It is very common for women to have emotional issues later in life from sexual abuses as a child. Same with men abused as kids.
    Focus, Hondo. Focus. There's no rape or childhood sexual abuse alleged. Stop diverting and distracting. The allegation is an attempted sexual assault. Let's try being precise, since I've already stipulated to the facts. Kreist. You guys are like herding cats.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Yes many women get PTSD from encounters like that. It's almost like a child's brain is different from an adults brain.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Abusive sexual contact.

    Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly engages in sexual contact with another person without that other person’s permission shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

    - 18 U.S. Code § 2244 - Abusive sexual contact

    sexual contact
    (3)the term “sexual contact” means the intentional touching, either directly or through the clothing, of the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;

    STOP! I know the facts. I stipulated to them for fuck sake.

    And if they caused this lady PTSD, then she was damaged goods to begin with.

    Look at her and listen to her, for fuck sake. She's a Child.
    Making fun of the witness is definitely what Republicans should do. That'll resonate well with the voters.
    How does her 7 year old, Valley Girl voice and speech resonate with you, Hondo? I suppose you might have a chance with her if you can tolerate it.
    In all seriousness. There are many millions of women with PTSD from stuff like this. Many women know women who have been affected by sexual abuse as a child. Not sure if you are aware of this, but women react differently to things than men do. It is very common for women to have emotional issues later in life from sexual abuses as a child. Same with men abused as kids.
    Focus, Hondo. Focus. There's no rape or childhood sexual abuse alleged. Stop diverting and distracting. The allegation is an attempted sexual assault. Let's try being precise, since I've already stipulated to the facts. Kreist. You guys are like herding cats.
    nope, its completed aggravated sexual assault, maybe attempted rape
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Yes many women get PTSD from encounters like that. It's almost like a child's brain is different from an adults brain.
    But you'd never give Kavanaugh that "child brain" benefit of the doubt, would you, Hondo?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Yes many women get PTSD from encounters like that. It's almost like a child's brain is different from an adults brain.
    But you'd never give Kavanaugh that "child brain" benefit of the doubt, would you, Hondo?
    If this encounter did happen. He was the perpetrator, not the victim. People who experience situations where they are forced into something, such as groping, often end up with PTSD. Do some research on it.

    I'm just laying out facts here, not being a dick.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    This is the biggest fucking farce ever.

    32 hours of questioning. 1300 written questions answered.

    The dems were forced to use the only card they had left - false sexual assualt accusations from 35 years ago.

    Fucking joke to anyone with a brain

    half a brain, you mean?
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    In case anyone was wondering why the GOP dudebros hired a ringer:

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/27/politics/orrin-hatch-kavanaugh-accuser-attractive/index.html

    "I don't think she's uncredible," said Hatch, the senior senator from Utah, when asked during the lunch break in Ford's testimony. "I think she's an attractive, good witness."
    When CNN asked what he meant by "attractive," Hatch responded, "In other words, she's pleasing."


    The self-ownage here is fantastic. But no, it's all an evil Dem plot.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    AZDuck said:

    Okay, I'm no woman. I get that. But assuming everything Dr. Ford says is true, would an event like that cause her to underperform academically, not get dates, wig out in college, keep shit from her parents, spend too much time in the sun, drink too much, etc., etc., etc. Sorry, not buying it.

    Read some studies on PTSD. That's exactly what happens

    This is what's wrong with #MeToo IMO. Suddenly every single hangnail is the fault of the Patriarchy.

    Rape = hangnail? Come on.

    If nothing else, this entire process seems to prove Freud's initial conclusions that women are fucking hysterical. Period. End of story.

    Speaking of hysterical... much of this insane drama is the result of Chuck Grassley saying "damn the torpedoes, we're gonna get this guy confirmed before the Senate recesses for the election. A great many bad decisions and stupid actions have resulted from the precipitate rush to confirm Kavanaugh this summer. So who's being hysterical?

    PTSD? 2 mins of groping equals 2 tours in Vietnam? Who's being ridiculous?

    And @AZDuck, groping and fondling now equals Rape?
    Yes many women get PTSD from encounters like that. It's almost like a child's brain is different from an adults brain.
    But you'd never give Kavanaugh that "child brain" benefit of the doubt, would you, Hondo?
    If this encounter did happen. He was the perpetrator, not the victim. People who experience situations where they are forced into something, such as groping, often end up with PTSD. Do some research on it.

    I'm just laying out facts here, not being a dick.
    I survived a building collapse. I know what PTSD is. I've experienced it. And it didn't have fuck-all to do with bad grades. Grow a brain.
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254
    SFGbob said:

    Does this one brief encounter really rise to the level of sexual abuse?

    There is no corroborating evidence the encounter happened.