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129 Million Total Obamacare Cancellations, Duke University Study

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    TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
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    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    All of you should get a room and jerk this out.

    In closing, Obamacare is an epic disaster, Obama is a liar, and Fox News has a clear political agenda. Water is wet. Etc.

    Serious question. I see a lot of people making a big deal about him all of the sudden being a liar, what did you think he was? Who's the last president that wasn't a liar?

    I don't think Obama is some awesome president, there is plenty to be critical of. I just don't understand the surprised reaction to him lying.
    I think it's the personal impact. Bush lies about WMD's, a few thousand soldiers loose their lives but most Americans can't connect the dots to their own lives.

    Obama told people they could keep their health insurance. MIllions are finding out that's not true. It doesn't take a study in causation for people to connect the dots. Obama's lie is impacting them directly, hence, pissed off.
    Ok. I can wrap my head around that. It's fucking stupid though. Obama was a liar yesterday and he's gonna be a liar tomorrow. It wouldn't matter if you could keep your health insurance, he'd still be a liar. He didn't get to that office on sugar plums and rain drops.
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    jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,671
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    I love the affordable health care act! good for competition.
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    jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,671
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    All presidents are liars and killers. All but four presidents have tremendous blood on their hands. obama likes to do it the humane way with drones. Way to go Obama! You have done it again!!

    I don't care who the next President will be, they will be a tiny turd. Bush and Obama the two worst president's back to back in history.
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    death2ducksdeath2ducks Member Posts: 991
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    loadsock said:

    A professor from Duke on Fox News.

    You really are a fucktard.

    Ass Wipe: You really need to get out more. Please read, if you can.

    news.yahoo.com/fox-news-obamacare-most-trusted-150510482.html

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    Wow, I posted a meme that doesn't really mean anything.

    Fox News is a propaganda machine of half-truths, misinformation, and reactionary, loudmouth NY micks.
    And I bet your news sources are just the beacon of truth. FYI, Obama's very own Justice Dept had a report that 6 MONTHS AGO they knew that 100+ million people will be affected and likely be dropped when 2015 begins. That's not Fox Propaganda; that's a report from the department that is headed up by Eric Holder.

    Why is the DOJ doing this report and not HHS?
    Please answer you own question?


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    loadsockloadsock Member Posts: 686
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    loadsock said:

    A professor from Duke on Fox News.

    You really are a fucktard.

    Ass Wipe: You really need to get out more. Please read, if you can.

    news.yahoo.com/fox-news-obamacare-most-trusted-150510482.html

    image

    Wow, I posted a meme that doesn't really mean anything.

    Fox News is a propaganda machine of half-truths, misinformation, and reactionary, loudmouth NY micks.
    And I bet your news sources are just the beacon of truth. FYI, Obama's very own Justice Dept had a report that 6 MONTHS AGO they knew that 100+ million people will be affected and likely be dropped when 2015 begins. That's not Fox Propaganda; that's a report from the department that is headed up by Eric Holder.

    Why is the DOJ doing this report and not HHS?
    Because this ObamaCare law isn't about health care at all.

    Not one iota.

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    death2ducksdeath2ducks Member Posts: 991
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    loadsock said:

    loadsock said:

    A professor from Duke on Fox News.

    You really are a fucktard.

    Ass Wipe: You really need to get out more. Please read, if you can.

    news.yahoo.com/fox-news-obamacare-most-trusted-150510482.html

    image

    Wow, I posted a meme that doesn't really mean anything.

    Fox News is a propaganda machine of half-truths, misinformation, and reactionary, loudmouth NY micks.
    And I bet your news sources are just the beacon of truth. FYI, Obama's very own Justice Dept had a report that 6 MONTHS AGO they knew that 100+ million people will be affected and likely be dropped when 2015 begins. That's not Fox Propaganda; that's a report from the department that is headed up by Eric Holder.

    Why is the DOJ doing this report and not HHS?
    Because this ObamaCare law isn't about health care at all.

    Not one iota.

    yep.
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,109
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    Swaye said:

    All of you should get a room and jerk this out.

    In closing, Obamacare is an epic disaster, Obama is a liar, and Fox News has a clear political agenda. Water is wet. Etc.

    Serious question. I see a lot of people making a big deal about him all of the sudden being a liar, what did you think he was? Who's the last president that wasn't a liar?

    I don't think Obama is some awesome president, there is plenty to be critical of. I just don't understand the surprised reaction to him lying.
    Where in my post did you see surprise? I was recapping the thread to that point.

    I knew Obama was a liar the day he started running for President the first time. McCain was a liar too, and Romney. So is Hillary. As you noted, they are ALL liars. I do think Obama comes from a climate (Chicago) where politics and lies are an art form, so I think he is likely less honest than most politicians, but I have no facts to support that.

    My Dad once told me "Son, politics will make a liar and a thief out of an honest man." Dad was right.
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,109
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    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    All of you should get a room and jerk this out.

    In closing, Obamacare is an epic disaster, Obama is a liar, and Fox News has a clear political agenda. Water is wet. Etc.

    Serious question. I see a lot of people making a big deal about him all of the sudden being a liar, what did you think he was? Who's the last president that wasn't a liar?

    I don't think Obama is some awesome president, there is plenty to be critical of. I just don't understand the surprised reaction to him lying.
    I think it's the personal impact. Bush lies about WMD's, a few thousand soldiers loose their lives but most Americans can't connect the dots to their own lives.

    Obama told people they could keep their health insurance. MIllions are finding out that's not true. It doesn't take a study in causation for people to connect the dots. Obama's lie is impacting them directly, hence, pissed off.
    This. People tie yellow ribbons to their mailboxes, and say "Support the Troops," and some really motivated folks actually donate time and money to Wounded Warriors, but in the day of the smaller Army and all volunteer force, very few people are directly impacted by the war. It's not like WWII or Vietnam, where everyone had a brother or nephew or whatever over there. So, people say the right things, and you hear prayers at baseball games and shit, but at the end of the day most people aren't too mindful of it, nor engaged with it.

    I on the other hand got to go to Iraq thanks to Bush and his merry band of idiots, so I have some strong feelings about that war, and my place in it. I must admit, I did vote for Bush, so I guess I sent myself to Iraq. FML.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    I support the troops but against the war
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    death2ducksdeath2ducks Member Posts: 991
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    I support the troops but against the war

    Great. That's so important to me.

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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,983
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    loadsock said:

    A professor from Duke on Fox News.

    You really are a fucktard.

    Ass Wipe: You really need to get out more. Please read, if you can.

    news.yahoo.com/fox-news-obamacare-most-trusted-150510482.html

    image

    Wow, I posted a meme that doesn't really mean anything.

    Fox News is a propaganda machine of half-truths, misinformation, and reactionary, loudmouth NY micks.
    And I bet your news sources are just the beacon of truth. FYI, Obama's very own Justice Dept had a report that 6 MONTHS AGO they knew that 100+ million people will be affected and likely be dropped when 2015 begins. That's not Fox Propaganda; that's a report from the department that is headed up by Eric Holder.

    Fox News voters are on average less informed. Studies have shown this.
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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,983
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    A professor from Duke on Fox News.

    You really are a fucktard.

    Ass Wipe: You really need to get out more. Please read, if you can.

    news.yahoo.com/fox-news-obamacare-most-trusted-150510482.html

    image

    Wow, I posted a meme that doesn't really mean anything.

    Fox News is a propaganda machine of half-truths, misinformation, and reactionary, loudmouth NY micks.
    As if the other news sources aren't propaganda machines of half truths.
    I never said CNN was a great news source. FN is the biggest joke though.
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    CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,493
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    A professor from Duke on Fox News.

    You really are a fucktard.

    Ass Wipe: You really need to get out more. Please read, if you can.

    news.yahoo.com/fox-news-obamacare-most-trusted-150510482.html

    image

    Wow, I posted a meme that doesn't really mean anything.

    Fox News is a propaganda machine of half-truths, misinformation, and reactionary, loudmouth NY micks.
    As if the other news sources aren't propaganda machines of half truths.
    I never said CNN was a great news source. FN is the biggest joke though.
    No just no they all blow equally.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    loadsock said:

    A professor from Duke on Fox News.

    You really are a fucktard.

    Ass Wipe: You really need to get out more. Please read, if you can.

    news.yahoo.com/fox-news-obamacare-most-trusted-150510482.html

    image

    Wow, I posted a meme that doesn't really mean anything.

    Fox News is a propaganda machine of half-truths, misinformation, and reactionary, loudmouth NY micks.
    And I bet your news sources are just the beacon of truth. FYI, Obama's very own Justice Dept had a report that 6 MONTHS AGO they knew that 100+ million people will be affected and likely be dropped when 2015 begins. That's not Fox Propaganda; that's a report from the department that is headed up by Eric Holder.

    Fox News voters are on average less informed. Studies have shown this.
    Is that what Rachel Maddow told you?
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    death2ducksdeath2ducks Member Posts: 991
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    loadsock said:

    A professor from Duke on Fox News.

    You really are a fucktard.

    Ass Wipe: You really need to get out more. Please read, if you can.

    news.yahoo.com/fox-news-obamacare-most-trusted-150510482.html

    image

    Wow, I posted a meme that doesn't really mean anything.

    Fox News is a propaganda machine of half-truths, misinformation, and reactionary, loudmouth NY micks.
    And I bet your news sources are just the beacon of truth. FYI, Obama's very own Justice Dept had a report that 6 MONTHS AGO they knew that 100+ million people will be affected and likely be dropped when 2015 begins. That's not Fox Propaganda; that's a report from the department that is headed up by Eric Holder.

    Fox News voters are on average less informed. Studies have shown this.
    Is that what Rachel Maddow told you?
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    TailgaterTailgater Member Posts: 1,389
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    It's only 5%. And those policies were rip offs.

    129 million out of 300 million Americans = 5% ? Where did you go to college, Fucktard.

    The college I attended wouldn't have misplaced (slid) the decimal point a place to the right just to create more radical rightwing fucking propaganda better known as Fox News.

    Obama fucked-up the Affordable Health Care Act with his own limp propaganda intended for selling the American public on what happens to be a Republican solution for saving this country's third World (in terms of access) healthcare system. Fuck-it! Let the system crater and fail which must inevitably happen and the sooner the better. The only workable solution is for us to be forced into a single-payer 100% socialist solution to replace what has for over 100 years been nothing more than a capitalist rip-off collaboration between healthcare providers and the insurance industry's robber baron ascendants of JP Morgan and gang. We'd be better off if our doctors, clinics, and hospitals, etc could collaborate with the Mafia.

    The 5% of Idiot Americans who have been conned into throwing out-of-pocket money away on cut-rate low-premium insurance that doesn't cover shit (read the fine print if you can read) are pissed because continuously getting fucked by crooks is an Idiot American right and privilege that no uppity n..... should be allowed to take away. For much longer than the sub-prime mortage industry has existed as designed and invented for the casino of the rich and powerful at the expense of the hard-working and unqualified, there has been a zero-value insurance industry that's always been there to profit on and gamble-away the innocence of the healthy and stupid. Obama was wrong for in America, free people have the right to live fleeced for as long as their gullibility will allow.

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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    Tailgater said:

    It's only 5%. And those policies were rip offs.

    129 million out of 300 million Americans = 5% ? Where did you go to college, Fucktard.

    The college I attended wouldn't have misplaced (slid) the decimal point a place to the right just to create more radical rightwing fucking propaganda better known as Fox News.

    Obama fucked-up the Affordable Health Care Act with his own limp propaganda intended for selling the American public on what happens to be a Republican solution for saving this country's third World (in terms of access) healthcare system. Fuck-it! Let the system crater and fail which must inevitably happen and the sooner the better. The only workable solution is for us to be forced into a single-payer 100% socialist solution to replace what has for over 100 years been nothing more than a capitalist rip-off collaboration between healthcare providers and the insurance industry's robber baron ascendants of JP Morgan and gang. We'd be better off if our doctors, clinics, and hospitals, etc could collaborate with the Mafia.

    The 5% of Idiot Americans who have been conned into throwing out-of-pocket money away on cut-rate low-premium insurance that doesn't cover shit (read the fine print if you can read) are pissed because continuously getting fucked by crooks is an Idiot American right and privilege that no uppity n..... should be allowed to take away. For much longer than the sub-prime mortage industry has existed as designed and invented for the casino of the rich and powerful at the expense of the hard-working and unqualified, there has been a zero-value insurance industry that's always been there to profit on and gamble-away the innocence of the healthy and stupid. Obama was wrong for in America, free people have the right to live fleeced for as long as their gullibility will allow.

    Good start. Fucktarded ending


    The problem starts and ends with the government. Think harder.
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,109
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    loadsock said:

    loadsock said:

    A professor from Duke on Fox News.

    You really are a fucktard.

    Ass Wipe: You really need to get out more. Please read, if you can.

    news.yahoo.com/fox-news-obamacare-most-trusted-150510482.html

    image

    Wow, I posted a meme that doesn't really mean anything.

    Fox News is a propaganda machine of half-truths, misinformation, and reactionary, loudmouth NY micks.
    And I bet your news sources are just the beacon of truth. FYI, Obama's very own Justice Dept had a report that 6 MONTHS AGO they knew that 100+ million people will be affected and likely be dropped when 2015 begins. That's not Fox Propaganda; that's a report from the department that is headed up by Eric Holder.

    Fox News voters are on average less informed. Studies have shown this.
    If Fox New voters are on average less informed, I'd love to see an example of an MSLSD viewer or CNN viewer who could be described as informed. You liberals are some of the most uninformed, common sense lacking types I've ever been around and that's saying something considering I have been around their counter parts who side with the republican party.

    All I can say now is that if one chooses to be a democrat or a republican and blindly votes a straight ticket for one of the parties, you are one of the dumbest mother fuckers out there and such individuals have no one to blame but themselves for the state of this country.
    Good poonts. None of it matters though. 95 percent of politicans are bought and paid for by one lobby or another, they all lie, and the last thing on any national politicians mind is doing what is right for their constituents. It's just a fucking racket now to suck down donor freebies, maintain power instead of doing the right thing, and create divisiveness to obfuscate their craptastic job performance. Politics and politicians in this country are a total fucking joke, only it isn't funny, and the taxpayers/citizens are the punch line. Fucking pathetic.
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    loadsockloadsock Member Posts: 686
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    I've always suggested that every one of the crooks and thieves in DC should wear outfits like Nascar drivers so you can see an open display of which people and corporations and groups are lining their pockets. That would be about the only transparent thing we'd get out of them and it still wouldn't do any good.

    Placing most all of the 535 (I'm ok with including the president and his entire cabinet as well) in front of a firing squad wouldn't break my heart.

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