I hear the offense underperformed last year and have so far this year ...
What are the expectations?
Maybe score in the red zone ...
I don't know...
Call me crazy.
I was coached, red zone scoring was all about heart and desire to beat the man across from you. Has that changed?
North Dakota had heart and desire. They still weren't gonna score in the red zone with their vanilla shit. And we aint gonna produce in the red zone either against the big boys running vanilla shit. Become a top five recruiter and equalize the talent you're going against then it's a different conversation. Until then spend some money on a real OC and let Petersen be the full time CEO.
I hear the offense underperformed last year and have so far this year ...
What are the expectations?
Maybe score in the red zone ...
I don't know...
Call me crazy.
I was coached, red zone scoring was all about heart and desire to beat the man across from you. Has that changed?
North Dakota had heart and desire. They still weren't gonna score in the red zone with their vanilla shit. And we aint gonna produce in the red zone either against the big boys running vanilla shit. Become a top five recruiter and equalize the talent you're going against then it's a different conversation. Until then spend some money on a real OC and let Petersen be the full time CEO.
You make very good points. I think it all goes hand in hand. You can have the best schemes in the world, but if you get blown up by the guy across from you it is all for not. What I came away from in the Auburn game, they wanted it more.
I hear the offense underperformed last year and have so far this year ...
What are the expectations?
Maybe score in the red zone ...
I don't know...
Call me crazy.
I was coached, red zone scoring was all about heart and desire to beat the man across from you. Has that changed?
North Dakota had heart and desire. They still weren't gonna score in the red zone with their vanilla shit. And we aint gonna produce in the red zone either against the big boys running vanilla shit. Become a top five recruiter and equalize the talent you're going against then it's a different conversation. Until then spend some money on a real OC and let Petersen be the full time CEO.
You make very good points. I think it all goes hand in hand. You can have the best schemes in the world, but if you get blown up by the guy across from you it is all for not. What I came away from in the Auburn game, they wanted it more. didnt call a speed option or qb draw in the redzone, or rely on a poor to mediocre QB they havent developed in 4 years to win the game
Honestly I think it's the defense this season that has a better chance of letting us down than Jake and the offense. lack of pass rush and ZERO play making ability in the front 7 is very concerning. No picks by our DBs in two games doesn't look good either.
They've given up 21 and 3 points in the first 2 games. Even with a weak lb core they're looking poised to at least do their part the rest of the season even if they aren't as dominant.
The offense is scoring 16 points and getting stonewalled in the red zone with what looks like a talented receiving core, breakout skill player in Ahmed and a near dominant possession receiver in Jones.
The script is playing out so close to 2017 it makes me want to jump off the Steel Bridge
You're right, and the 2017 team I would argue was bailed out by the defense. I don't see that happening as much or as easily this year. Don't get me wrong, our offense sucks ass too.
What if Petersen came to Washington specifically because he doesn't have balls and knew this was a D 1 payday where no one actually gives a shit about winning big?
Chew on that
He didn't want the Oregon job because there would be expectations.
That's an interesting poont.
So Cristoball should be gone after going for less than 10 wins this year with a soft as charmin schedule then right?
Not what I was saying at all and Oregon was a different program in 2012 than it was in 2017. Slingblade shit all over the mattress.
What I am saying is Oregon was coming off of three conference titles in four years, NC game, multi BCS games, and had a sure fire playoff roster when Petersen was offered the job and said no because he didn't want to have to live up to the expectations.
Then a few years later he takes over a UW program that hasn't won in ages and the fan base had mostly lost interest.
If Cristobal isn't pushing for the playoffs in November of his fifth year the fan base is going to be fucking livid. UW's fan base isn't going to really care because there has only been one good season in the last 20.
Race has a point. Peterman turned down the Ferrari for a Toyota Camry.
Does being this naive cause you physical pain? askin for a friend.
What if Petersen came to Washington specifically because he doesn't have balls and knew this was a D 1 payday where no one actually gives a shit about winning big?
Chew on that
You're correct in the sense that he could go 10-2, 8-4, 9- 3 in perpetuity and Doogs would be totally content. That said, the massive leveling up in recruiting I think is all the proof we need that Pete is committed to winning titles here. All head coaches - even the greats - are stubborn fucks. Deeper rosters are the insurance policy against bad decisions.
Content and Complacent at Montlake.
If Pete is committed to winning why does he accept WAC level recruiting from Bob Gregory?
Lake and Malloe's efforts and players have carried the defense. Don James' defenses never had glaring talent differences between position groups.
James played the best players. He never hesitated to sit an under-performer, especially if it gave his team a better chance to win.
"Everybody has to prove they are the best player every day," says Dabo Swinney, adding this about Clemson's current QB situation. "Kelly won 12 games and was a couple of plays away from taking the lead in the third quarter against Alabama," Swinney told ESPN this spring as the hype around Lawrence was beginning to swirl. "The two interceptions he had, neither one was his fault, but those changed the game. He had a couple of drops, and he had some mistakes, too. But even if we had won that game, we're still having this conversation because there is no lifetime contract here.
"If something changes, we'll all see it. Everybody will have a front-row seat. Kelly doesn’t have a 12-game contract to be the starter. And Trevor doesn’t have a 12-game contract to continue to deserve to play. You’re not entitled to play. I don’t have a lifetime contract. I gotta prove that I should be the head coach. I have to earn that every year, every week. That’s life. These guys all understand that and embrace that."
Not so at Washington.
"Just like every position, there's good competition at quarterback, and nobody's backing away from that competition," says Nick Saban. "As much as anybody, the other kids on the team will let us know which one of those guys gives us the best chance to win."
Pete isn't doing everything he can to win the game.
"Because of all the intrigue that you'll hear someone say, ‘How can you play quarterback with someone looking over your shoulder?" Urban Meyer said a few years ago. "My comment to that person was, ‘Well, no one's complaining, but how do you not?’ If you think you're going to play at the next level, there is going to be probably one better than you stand right next to you, so get used to it. You are going to look. That doesn't mean you get hooked. If you have a bad day, you get replaced. That might not be everyone's philosophy and that's OK.
"If that's an excuse, which I call it an excuse of how can you perform with someone looking over your shoulder, NFL quarterbacks do. I've never had one not."
What if Petersen came to Washington specifically because he doesn't have balls and knew this was a D 1 payday where no one actually gives a shit about winning big?
Chew on that
He didn't want the Oregon job because there would be expectations.
That's an interesting poont.
So Cristoball should be gone after going for less than 10 wins this year with a soft as charmin schedule then right?
Not what I was saying at all and Oregon was a different program in 2012 than it was in 2017. Slingblade shit all over the mattress.
What I am saying is Oregon was coming off of three conference titles in four years, NC game, multi BCS games, and had a sure fire playoff roster when Petersen was offered the job and said no because he didn't want to have to live up to the expectations.
Then a few years later he takes over a UW program that hasn't won in ages and the fan base had mostly lost interest.
If Cristobal isn't pushing for the playoffs in November of his fifth year the fan base is going to be fucking livid. UW's fan base isn't going to really care because there has only been one good season in the last 20.
Race has a point. Peterman turned down the Ferrari for a Toyota Camry.
Does being this naive cause you physical pain? askin for a friend.
About as much as thinking a 9 win team was going to make the fucking playoffs.
You're legitimately worried about Utah and people are still talking about Clemson. Funny folks you Doogs are.
I hear the offense underperformed last year and have so far this year ...
What are the expectations?
Maybe score in the red zone ...
I don't know...
Call me crazy.
I was coached, red zone scoring was all about heart and desire to beat the man across from you. Has that changed?
North Dakota had heart and desire. They still weren't gonna score in the red zone with their vanilla shit. And we aint gonna produce in the red zone either against the big boys running vanilla shit. Become a top five recruiter and equalize the talent you're going against then it's a different conversation. Until then spend some money on a real OC and let Petersen be the full time CEO.
You make very good points. I think it all goes hand in hand. You can have the best schemes in the world, but if you get blown up by the guy across from you it is all for not. What I came away from in the Auburn game, they wanted it more. didnt call a speed option or qb draw in the redzone, or rely on a poor to mediocre QB they havent developed in 4 years to win the game
I hear the offense underperformed last year and have so far this year ...
What are the expectations?
Maybe score in the red zone ...
I don't know...
Call me crazy.
I was coached, red zone scoring was all about heart and desire to beat the man across from you. Has that changed?
North Dakota had heart and desire. They still weren't gonna score in the red zone with their vanilla shit. And we aint gonna produce in the red zone either against the big boys running vanilla shit. Become a top five recruiter and equalize the talent you're going against then it's a different conversation. Until then spend some money on a real OC and let Petersen be the full time CEO.
You make very good points. I think it all goes hand in hand. You can have the best schemes in the world, but if you get blown up by the guy across from you it is all for not. What I came away from in the Auburn game, they wanted it more.
I'm just saying the large majority of the time talent wins. I get a kick out of some on here who think my idea of creativity is QB draws and options with someone who can't run. But that's pretty much HH. All black and white, no middle ground for sensibility. I'm gonna stick by my basic point that until Pete loosens up his reins on this offense this team will never reach it's potential. I'm all about Pete but he had his flaws specifically holding onto underperforming asst. coaches for too long and not dedicating more resources to a serious upgrade at OC.
What if Petersen came to Washington specifically because he doesn't have balls and knew this was a D 1 payday where no one actually gives a shit about winning big?
Chew on that
He didn't want the Oregon job because there would be expectations.
That's an interesting poont.
So Cristoball should be gone after going for less than 10 wins this year with a soft as charmin schedule then right?
Not what I was saying at all and Oregon was a different program in 2012 than it was in 2017. Slingblade shit all over the mattress.
What I am saying is Oregon was coming off of three conference titles in four years, NC game, multi BCS games, and had a sure fire playoff roster when Petersen was offered the job and said no because he didn't want to have to live up to the expectations.
Then a few years later he takes over a UW program that hasn't won in ages and the fan base had mostly lost interest.
If Cristobal isn't pushing for the playoffs in November of his fifth year the fan base is going to be fucking livid. UW's fan base isn't going to really care because there has only been one good season in the last 20.
Race has a point. Peterman turned down the Ferrari for a Toyota Camry.
Does being this naive cause you physical pain? askin for a friend.
About as much as thinking a 9 win team was going to make the fucking playoffs.
You're legitimately worried about Utah and people are still talking about Clemson. Funny folks you Doogs are.
People thought Arizona was a favorite to win the South.
What if Petersen came to Washington specifically because he doesn't have balls and knew this was a D 1 payday where no one actually gives a shit about winning big?
Chew on that
He didn't want the Oregon job because there would be expectations.
That's an interesting poont.
Oregon's last three head coaching hires prove that Oregon has no expectations.
Really? One of them won a playoff game and a trip to the title game. The next guy brought in a killer staff and changed the recruiting trajectory. Then he left after 1 year, fortunately. Now we've got a Saban understudy who is throttling the rest of the PAC on the recruiting trail, while showing a trend of slashing penalties so far, which has been Oregon's Achilles Heel during the tenure of the last two coaches. He's still LIPO, but he's showing early signs of having strong command of the program.
What if Petersen came to Washington specifically because he doesn't have balls and knew this was a D 1 payday where no one actually gives a shit about winning big?
Chew on that
He didn't want the Oregon job because there would be expectations.
That's an interesting poont.
Oregon's last three head coaching hires prove that Oregon has no expectations.
Really? One of them won a playoff game and a trip to the title game. The next guy brought in a killer staff and upped the recruiting game big time. Then he left after 1 year, fortunately. Now we've got a Saban understudy who is throttling the rest of the PAC on the recruiting trail, while showing a strong trend of slashing penalties so far, which has been Oregon's Achilles Heel during the tenure of the last two coaches.
What if Petersen came to Washington specifically because he doesn't have balls and knew this was a D 1 payday where no one actually gives a shit about winning big?
Chew on that
He didn't want the Oregon job because there would be expectations.
That's an interesting poont.
Oregon's last three head coaching hires prove that Oregon has no expectations.
Really? One of them won a playoff game and a trip to the title game. The next guy brought in a killer staff and upped the recruiting game big time. Then he left after 1 year, fortunately. Now we've got a Saban understudy who is throttling the rest of the PAC on the recruiting trail, while showing a strong trend of slashing penalties so far, which has been Oregon's Achilles Heel during the tenure of the last two coaches.
Your premise is a steaming pile of shit.
Beat Oregon state. Nothing else matters
Beat Black Sark Sumlin. Nothing else will matter by the end of the season for ASU.
What if Petersen came to Washington specifically because he doesn't have balls and knew this was a D 1 payday where no one actually gives a shit about winning big?
Chew on that
He didn't want the Oregon job because there would be expectations.
That's an interesting poont.
So Cristoball should be gone after going for less than 10 wins this year with a soft as charmin schedule then right?
Not what I was saying at all and Oregon was a different program in 2012 than it was in 2017. Slingblade shit all over the mattress.
What I am saying is Oregon was coming off of three conference titles in four years, NC game, multi BCS games, and had a sure fire playoff roster when Petersen was offered the job and said no because he didn't want to have to live up to the expectations.
Then a few years later he takes over a UW program that hasn't won in ages and the fan base had mostly lost interest.
If Cristobal isn't pushing for the playoffs in November of his fifth year the fan base is going to be fucking livid. UW's fan base isn't going to really care because there has only been one good season in the last 20.
Race has a point. Peterman turned down the Ferrari for a Toyota Camry.
The fan base will be livid in year 2 or 3 if Cristobal isn't pushing for the playoffs isn't IN the playoffs in year two or three.
I hear the offense underperformed last year and have so far this year ...
What are the expectations?
Simple for me. Create an offense that gives your playmakers some room to operate. Pete's offense, IMO, does a terrible job at that. Also have an offense that's difficult to play against. It's just so fucking vanilla. James was pretty conservative but ran multiple counter shit. I don't know if I've ever seen any misdirection in watching 5 years of Petersen.
Have we ever run a simple screen pass to a runningback to slow down a pass rush? It's always some swinging gate or some shit.
What if Petersen came to Washington specifically because he doesn't have balls and knew this was a D 1 payday where no one actually gives a shit about winning big?
Chew on that
He didn't want the Oregon job because there would be expectations.
That's an interesting poont.
So Cristoball should be gone after going for less than 10 wins this year with a soft as charmin schedule then right?
Not what I was saying at all and Oregon was a different program in 2012 than it was in 2017. Slingblade shit all over the mattress.
What I am saying is Oregon was coming off of three conference titles in four years, NC game, multi BCS games, and had a sure fire playoff roster when Petersen was offered the job and said no because he didn't want to have to live up to the expectations.
Then a few years later he takes over a UW program that hasn't won in ages and the fan base had mostly lost interest.
If Cristobal isn't pushing for the playoffs in November of his fifth year the fan base is going to be fucking livid. UW's fan base isn't going to really care because there has only been one good season in the last 20.
Race has a point. Peterman turned down the Ferrari for a Toyota Camry.
Pete made the playoffs his third year. Giving Cristobal 5 hardly shows tuffer expectations
Oregon is a piece of shit not a Ferrari. Hope this helps
Cute, but you know that isn't true. If you lose in Eugene this year you've already lost the war again.
It’s 100% true Pete made the playoffs in his third year.
What if Petersen came to Washington specifically because he doesn't have balls and knew this was a D 1 payday where no one actually gives a shit about winning big?
Chew on that
He didn't want the Oregon job because there would be expectations.
That's an interesting poont.
So Cristoball should be gone after going for less than 10 wins this year with a soft as charmin schedule then right?
Not what I was saying at all and Oregon was a different program in 2012 than it was in 2017. Slingblade shit all over the mattress.
What I am saying is Oregon was coming off of three conference titles in four years, NC game, multi BCS games, and had a sure fire playoff roster when Petersen was offered the job and said no because he didn't want to have to live up to the expectations.
Then a few years later he takes over a UW program that hasn't won in ages and the fan base had mostly lost interest.
If Cristobal isn't pushing for the playoffs in November of his fifth year the fan base is going to be fucking livid. UW's fan base isn't going to really care because there has only been one good season in the last 20.
Race has a point. Peterman turned down the Ferrari for a Toyota Camry.
Pete made the playoffs his third year. Giving Cristobal 5 hardly shows tuffer expectations
Oregon is a piece of shit not a Ferrari. Hope this helps
Cute, but you know that isn't true. If you lose in Eugene this year you've already lost the war again.
It’s 100% true Pete made the playoffs in his third year.
Quooks hate facts.
Helfrich won a playoff game in his second year.
Slingblade >>>>>> Pete
Doogs hate facts.
This is the dumbest poast in the history of this website.
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gonna produce in the red zone either against the big boys running vanilla shit. Become a top five recruiter and equalize the talent you're going against then it's a different conversation. Until then spend some money on a real OC and let Petersen be the full time CEO.
If Pete is committed to winning why does he accept WAC level recruiting from Bob Gregory?
Lake and Malloe's efforts and players have carried the defense. Don James' defenses never had glaring talent differences between position groups.
James played the best players. He never hesitated to sit an under-performer, especially if it gave his team a better chance to win.
"Everybody has to prove they are the best player every day," says Dabo Swinney, adding this about Clemson's current QB situation. "Kelly won 12 games and was a couple of plays away from taking the lead in the third quarter against Alabama," Swinney told ESPN this spring as the hype around Lawrence was beginning to swirl. "The two interceptions he had, neither one was his fault, but those changed the game. He had a couple of drops, and he had some mistakes, too. But even if we had won that game, we're still having this conversation because there is no lifetime contract here.
"If something changes, we'll all see it. Everybody will have a front-row seat. Kelly doesn’t have a 12-game contract to be the starter. And Trevor doesn’t have a 12-game contract to continue to deserve to play. You’re not entitled to play. I don’t have a lifetime contract. I gotta prove that I should be the head coach. I have to earn that every year, every week. That’s life. These guys all understand that and embrace that."
Not so at Washington.
"Just like every position, there's good competition at quarterback, and nobody's backing away from that competition," says Nick Saban. "As much as anybody, the other kids on the team will let us know which one of those guys gives us the best chance to win."
Pete isn't doing everything he can to win the game.
"Because of all the intrigue that you'll hear someone say, ‘How can you play quarterback with someone looking over your shoulder?" Urban Meyer said a few years ago. "My comment to that person was, ‘Well, no one's complaining, but how do you not?’ If you think you're going to play at the next level, there is going to be probably one better than you stand right next to you, so get used to it. You are going to look. That doesn't mean you get hooked. If you have a bad day, you get replaced. That might not be everyone's philosophy and that's OK.
"If that's an excuse, which I call it an excuse of how can you perform with someone looking over your shoulder, NFL quarterbacks do. I've never had one not."
You're legitimately worried about Utah and people are still talking about Clemson. Funny folks you Doogs are.
Your premise is a steaming pile of shit.
isn't pushing for the playoffsisn't IN the playoffs in year two or three.Slingblade >>>>>> Pete
Doogs hate facts.