Exactly what I thought. I'm down for Rather being fired and Olberman is an asshat. Just wondering why the other side doesn't feel like they are held to the same standard. Or that the shit Alex Jones says it's ok but Olberman should be fired.
Alex Jones is an asshat too.
Doesn't mean he needs to get banned on youtube. Put the crazies out there to be exposed for what they are - asshats.
I always wonder why the left is afraid to let ideas rise and fall on their own merit.
Actually, I don't wonder.
Are you serious? How’s universal healthcare being allowed to rise and fall on its own merit? “Extreme leftism!” With a 60% approval rating. “How are you going to pay for it!?” When even the Koch brothers can’t fund a study that shows it would cost more than our current system.
If you think this is a left problem and not an everyone problem you’re dumb as fuck.
Universal Healthcare did rise. A LOT. That is our current system. Thanks Obama! Your employer must pay that bill for you if you're unaware.
Are we? done talking about oranges when the original conversation was about apples?
Free speech, and the de-platforming of ideas is being done unilaterally along stark political lines. If you cant's see that, than HondoFuckingStupid.
This is 1000% an everyone problem, because like usual, the left isn't paying attention to the "unintended" consequences the right saw coming from a country mile.
Or the consequences WERE intended, which we can't rule out either.
I don’t want to be a dick but it doesn’t seem like you know what universal healthcare is or what free speech means.
You and I both know the nomenclature Universal Healthcare encompasses a lot of things. It is what was promised with Obamacare - and we know how that turned out - which is my poont.
If you want it to mean some variant of the single-payer model, whereby the providers have to compete for the business, then sign me up. Until then, the current model is only going to cost more and more and more.
I seem to care more about actual free speech than those on the left who are so afraid of opposing views they would rather have their opposition silenced. So I think I have that covered.
But you're always welcome to show me the light.
I'll wait, Richard.
This is cute coming from the guy that wants to ban people.
Exactly what I thought. I'm down for Rather being fired and Olberman is an asshat. Just wondering why the other side doesn't feel like they are held to the same standard. Or that the shit Alex Jones says it's ok but Olberman should be fired.
Alex Jones is an asshat too.
Doesn't mean he needs to get banned on youtube. Put the crazies out there to be exposed for what they are - asshats.
I always wonder why the left is afraid to let ideas rise and fall on their own merit.
Actually, I don't wonder.
Are you serious? How’s universal healthcare being allowed to rise and fall on its own merit? “Extreme leftism!” With a 60% approval rating. “How are you going to pay for it!?” When even the Koch brothers can’t fund a study that shows it would cost more than our current system.
If you think this is a left problem and not an everyone problem you’re dumb as fuck.
Universal Healthcare did rise. A LOT. That is our current system. Thanks Obama! Your employer must pay that bill for you if you're unaware.
Are we? done talking about oranges when the original conversation was about apples?
Free speech, and the de-platforming of ideas is being done unilaterally along stark political lines. If you cant's see that, than HondoFuckingStupid.
This is 1000% an everyone problem, because like usual, the left isn't paying attention to the "unintended" consequences the right saw coming from a country mile.
Or the consequences WERE intended, which we can't rule out either.
I don’t want to be a dick but it doesn’t seem like you know what universal healthcare is or what free speech means.
You and I both know the nomenclature Universal Healthcare encompasses a lot of things. It is what was promised with Obamacare - and we know how that turned out - which is my poont.
If you want it to mean some variant of the single-payer model, whereby the providers have to compete for the business, then sign me up. Until then, the current model is only going to cost more and more and more.
I seem to care more about actual free speech than those on the left who are so afraid of opposing views they would rather have their opposition silenced. So I think I have that covered.
But you're always welcome to show me the light.
I'll wait, Richard.
WTF? This board is so fucking weird. Less than 10% of people are covered by Obamacare. How the fuck is that universal? My god.
The stated objective was that every person was covered.
Exactly what I thought. I'm down for Rather being fired and Olberman is an asshat. Just wondering why the other side doesn't feel like they are held to the same standard. Or that the shit Alex Jones says it's ok but Olberman should be fired.
Alex Jones is an asshat too.
Doesn't mean he needs to get banned on youtube. Put the crazies out there to be exposed for what they are - asshats.
I always wonder why the left is afraid to let ideas rise and fall on their own merit.
Actually, I don't wonder.
Are you serious? How’s universal healthcare being allowed to rise and fall on its own merit? “Extreme leftism!” With a 60% approval rating. “How are you going to pay for it!?” When even the Koch brothers can’t fund a study that shows it would cost more than our current system.
If you think this is a left problem and not an everyone problem you’re dumb as fuck.
Universal Healthcare did rise. A LOT. That is our current system. Thanks Obama! Your employer must pay that bill for you if you're unaware.
Are we? done talking about oranges when the original conversation was about apples?
Free speech, and the de-platforming of ideas is being done unilaterally along stark political lines. If you cant's see that, than HondoFuckingStupid.
This is 1000% an everyone problem, because like usual, the left isn't paying attention to the "unintended" consequences the right saw coming from a country mile.
Or the consequences WERE intended, which we can't rule out either.
I don’t want to be a dick but it doesn’t seem like you know what universal healthcare is or what free speech means.
You and I both know the nomenclature Universal Healthcare encompasses a lot of things. It is what was promised with Obamacare - and we know how that turned out - which is my poont.
If you want it to mean some variant of the single-payer model, whereby the providers have to compete for the business, then sign me up. Until then, the current model is only going to cost more and more and more.
I seem to care more about actual free speech than those on the left who are so afraid of opposing views they would rather have their opposition silenced. So I think I have that covered.
But you're always welcome to show me the light.
I'll wait, Richard.
WTF? This board is so fucking weird. Less than 10% of people are covered by Obamacare. How the fuck is that universal? My god.
The stated objective was that every person was covered.
Sacred cow? You act as though I’m blindly supporting these things, when reality is you’ve demonstrated a lack of understanding and/or lack of proof against them. That’s on you.
I’m using “means” in reference to definition, you’re using it in regards to value. Being willing to negotiate with something doesn’t mean you don’t know it’s value, it means you understand its value very well.
Free speech isn't a negotiation. It's a central pillar of American freedom. But I don't think they teach that in schools anymore.
It's depressingly obvious that you've never taken a basic Constitutional Law course. If you had, you'd know that just about every Constitutional right, including free speech, is restricted in one form or another.
It's pretty clear, actually, that you have no fucking clue what they teach in schools.
You're the sort of left wing fascist filth that's become a disease in the education system. You 'educators' are failing the students and churning out a generation of fucking Marxists who have no concept or respect for the 1st amendment and who want to use the tools of government & social media to clamp down on free expression like they've done in Europe.
Get the fuck out and go back to Germany you descendant of a Nazi pig.
Careful, you're jealousy of smert people is showing again.
And why are you so angry at other people? Look, I don't know how you responded in the religion pole, but you really should be furious at whatever God that made you so fucking retarded.
Sacred cow? You act as though I’m blindly supporting these things, when reality is you’ve demonstrated a lack of understanding and/or lack of proof against them. That’s on you.
On the vaxx issue, all I've ever done is ask questions. I'll never hear the end of it. Sacred cow.
Universal, should mean for all. Obamacare was supposed to make sure ALL have health insurance. That obviously is/was a failure.
So I'm still waiting for your definition of Universal, but again that sounds like a sacred cow.
You could abdicate this convo to Hondo if it's too much for you. LMK
Sacred cow? You act as though I’m blindly supporting these things, when reality is you’ve demonstrated a lack of understanding and/or lack of proof against them. That’s on you.
On the vaxx issue, all I've ever done is ask questions. I'll never hear the end of it. Sacred cow.
Universal, should mean for all. Obamacare was supposed to make sure ALL have health insurance. That obviously is/was a failure.
So I'm still waiting for your definition of Universal, but again that sounds like a sacred cow.
You could abdicate this convo to Hondo if it's too much for you. LMK
Obamacare was not intended to be universal health Care. Obama campaigned on universal health Care and pussed out and caved to the insurance lobby. So we ended up with that pile of shit that could never be universal health Care.
Sacred cow? You act as though I’m blindly supporting these things, when reality is you’ve demonstrated a lack of understanding and/or lack of proof against them. That’s on you.
On the vaxx issue, all I've ever done is ask questions. I'll never hear the end of it. Sacred cow.
Universal, should mean for all. Obamacare was supposed to make sure ALL have health insurance. That obviously is/was a failure.
So I'm still waiting for your definition of Universal, but again that sounds like a sacred cow.
You could abdicate this convo to Hondo if it's too much for you. LMK
Obamacare was not intended to be universal health Care. Obama campaigned on universal health Care and pussed out and caved to the insurance lobby. So we ended up with that pile of shit that could never be universal health Care but that didn't stop me from defending it for years and advocating for Hillary who wanted to keep it.
Sacred cow? You act as though I’m blindly supporting these things, when reality is you’ve demonstrated a lack of understanding and/or lack of proof against them. That’s on you.
On the vaxx issue, all I've ever done is ask questions. I'll never hear the end of it. Sacred cow.
Universal, should mean for all. Obamacare was supposed to make sure ALL have health insurance. That obviously is/was a failure.
So I'm still waiting for your definition of Universal, but again that sounds like a sacred cow.
You could abdicate this convo to Hondo if it's too much for you. LMK
Obamacare was not intended to be universal health Care. Obama campaigned on universal health Care and pussed out and caved to the insurance lobby. So we ended up with that pile of shit that could never be universal health Care but that didn't stop me from defending it for years and advocating for Hillary who wanted to keep it.
I'm a dumbfuck that doesn't understand the difference between defending something and calling out lies.
Sacred cow? You act as though I’m blindly supporting these things, when reality is you’ve demonstrated a lack of understanding and/or lack of proof against them. That’s on you.
On the vaxx issue, all I've ever done is ask questions. I'll never hear the end of it. Sacred cow.
Universal, should mean for all. Obamacare was supposed to make sure ALL have health insurance. That obviously is/was a failure.
So I'm still waiting for your definition of Universal, but again that sounds like a sacred cow.
You could abdicate this convo to Hondo if it's too much for you. LMK
Obamacare was not intended to be universal health Care. Obama campaigned on universal health Care and pussed out and caved to the insurance lobby. So we ended up with that pile of shit that could never be universal health Care.
Sacred cow? You act as though I’m blindly supporting these things, when reality is you’ve demonstrated a lack of understanding and/or lack of proof against them. That’s on you.
On the vaxx issue, all I've ever done is ask questions. I'll never hear the end of it. Sacred cow.
Universal, should mean for all. Obamacare was supposed to make sure ALL have health insurance. That obviously is/was a failure.
So I'm still waiting for your definition of Universal, but again that sounds like a sacred cow.
You could abdicate this convo to Hondo if it's too much for you. LMK
Re: vax...I seem to recall you doing more than just asking questions. Are you abandoning your stance or just backpedaling while it’s convenient in this thread?
Obamacare is not Universal Healthcare. Norway, the UK and Canada have universal healthcare. But you seem more interested in playing semantics than discussing the actual merits of different systems.
Sacred cow? You act as though I’m blindly supporting these things, when reality is you’ve demonstrated a lack of understanding and/or lack of proof against them. That’s on you.
On the vaxx issue, all I've ever done is ask questions. I'll never hear the end of it. Sacred cow.
Universal, should mean for all. Obamacare was supposed to make sure ALL have health insurance. That obviously is/was a failure.
So I'm still waiting for your definition of Universal, but again that sounds like a sacred cow.
You could abdicate this convo to Hondo if it's too much for you. LMK
If I mistakenly painted you as stridently anti-vax, my bad.
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Sacred cows are sacred.
Maybe HondoFS can help you?
Low-tweak I know....
Bravo, sir. Bravo.
Universal, should mean for all. Obamacare was supposed to make sure ALL have health insurance. That obviously is/was a failure.
So I'm still waiting for your definition of Universal, but again that sounds like a sacred cow.
You could abdicate this convo to Hondo if it's too much for you. LMK
Obamacare is not Universal Healthcare. Norway, the UK and Canada have universal healthcare. But you seem more interested in playing semantics than discussing the actual merits of different systems.