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Jordan Peterson Reacts to ALEX JONES Being DEPLATFORMED

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  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    I’m using “means” in reference to definition, you’re using it in regards to value. Being willing to negotiate with something doesn’t mean you don’t know it’s value, it means you understand its value very well.

    Free speech isn't a negotiation. It's a central pillar of American freedom. But I don't think they teach that in schools anymore.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949

    I’m using “means” in reference to definition, you’re using it in regards to value. Being willing to negotiate with something doesn’t mean you don’t know it’s value, it means you understand its value very well.

    Free speech isn't a negotiation. It's a central pillar of American freedom. But I don't think they teach that in schools anymore.
    im with the quook on this one
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,033

    I’m using “means” in reference to definition, you’re using it in regards to value. Being willing to negotiate with something doesn’t mean you don’t know it’s value, it means you understand its value very well.

    Free speech isn't a negotiation. It's a central pillar of American freedom. But I don't think they teach that in schools anymore.
    It's depressingly obvious that you've never taken a basic Constitutional Law course. If you had, you'd know that just about every Constitutional right, including free speech, is restricted in one form or another.

    It's pretty clear, actually, that you have no fucking clue what they teach in schools.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    BearsWiin said:

    I’m using “means” in reference to definition, you’re using it in regards to value. Being willing to negotiate with something doesn’t mean you don’t know it’s value, it means you understand its value very well.

    Free speech isn't a negotiation. It's a central pillar of American freedom. But I don't think they teach that in schools anymore.
    It's depressingly obvious that you've never taken a basic Constitutional Law course. If you had, you'd know that just about every Constitutional right, including free speech, is restricted in one form or another.

    It's pretty clear, actually, that you have no fucking clue what they teach in schools.
    You're the sort of left wing fascist filth that's become a disease in the education system. You 'educators' are failing the students and churning out a generation of fucking Marxists who have no concept or respect for the 1st amendment and who want to use the tools of government & social media to clamp down on free expression like they've done in Europe.

    Get the fuck out and go back to Germany you descendant of a Nazi pig.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949

    BearsWiin said:

    I’m using “means” in reference to definition, you’re using it in regards to value. Being willing to negotiate with something doesn’t mean you don’t know it’s value, it means you understand its value very well.

    Free speech isn't a negotiation. It's a central pillar of American freedom. But I don't think they teach that in schools anymore.
    It's depressingly obvious that you've never taken a basic Constitutional Law course. If you had, you'd know that just about every Constitutional right, including free speech, is restricted in one form or another.

    It's pretty clear, actually, that you have no fucking clue what they teach in schools.
    You're the sort of left wing fascist filth that's become a disease in the education system. You 'educators' are failing the students and churning out a generation of fucking Marxists who have no concept or respect for the 1st amendment and who want to use the tools of government & social media to clamp down on free expression like they've done in Europe.

    Get the fuck out and go back to Germany you descendant of a Nazi pig.
    careful

    hes a commie not a nazi

  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    BearsWiin said:

    I’m using “means” in reference to definition, you’re using it in regards to value. Being willing to negotiate with something doesn’t mean you don’t know it’s value, it means you understand its value very well.

    Free speech isn't a negotiation. It's a central pillar of American freedom. But I don't think they teach that in schools anymore.
    It's depressingly obvious that you've never taken a basic Constitutional Law course. If you had, you'd know that just about every Constitutional right, including free speech, is restricted in one form or another.

    It's pretty clear, actually, that you have no fucking clue what they teach in schools.
    You're the sort of left wing fascist filth that's become a disease in the education system. You 'educators' are failing the students and churning out a generation of fucking Marxists who have no concept or respect for the 1st amendment and who want to use the tools of government & social media to clamp down on free expression like they've done in Europe.

    Get the fuck out and go back to Germany you descendant of a Nazi pig.
    careful

    hes a commie not a nazi

    The traditional distinction between the nazis and the far left is starting to become blurred.
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,033
    edited August 2018

    BearsWiin said:

    I’m using “means” in reference to definition, you’re using it in regards to value. Being willing to negotiate with something doesn’t mean you don’t know it’s value, it means you understand its value very well.

    Free speech isn't a negotiation. It's a central pillar of American freedom. But I don't think they teach that in schools anymore.
    It's depressingly obvious that you've never taken a basic Constitutional Law course. If you had, you'd know that just about every Constitutional right, including free speech, is restricted in one form or another.

    It's pretty clear, actually, that you have no fucking clue what they teach in schools.
    You're the sort of left wing fascist filth that's become a disease in the education system. You 'educators' are failing the students and churning out a generation of fucking Marxists who have no concept or respect for the 1st amendment and who want to use the tools of government & social media to clamp down on free expression like they've done in Europe.

    Get the fuck out and go back to Germany you descendant of a Nazi pig.
    Careful, you're jealousy of smert people is showing again.

    And why are you so angry at other people? Look, I don't know how you responded in the religion pole, but you really should be furious at whatever God that made you so fucking retarded.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    I’m using “means” in reference to definition, you’re using it in regards to value. Being willing to negotiate with something doesn’t mean you don’t know it’s value, it means you understand its value very well.

    Free speech isn't a negotiation. It's a central pillar of American freedom. But I don't think they teach that in schools anymore.
    It's depressingly obvious that you've never taken a basic Constitutional Law course. If you had, you'd know that just about every Constitutional right, including free speech, is restricted in one form or another.

    It's pretty clear, actually, that you have no fucking clue what they teach in schools.
    You're the sort of left wing fascist filth that's become a disease in the education system. You 'educators' are failing the students and churning out a generation of fucking Marxists who have no concept or respect for the 1st amendment and who want to use the tools of government & social media to clamp down on free expression like they've done in Europe.

    Get the fuck out and go back to Germany you descendant of a Nazi pig.
    Careful, you're jealousy of smert people is showing again.

    And why are you so angry at other people? Look, I don't know how you responded in the religion pole, but you really should be furious at whatever God that made you so fucking retarded.
    You claim to be edumarcated but really you're just a book-read poser. 1984 by Orwell is a pretty accurate summation of the sick dystopia your new democrats want to drag the rest of the nation kicking and screaming into.
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,033

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    I’m using “means” in reference to definition, you’re using it in regards to value. Being willing to negotiate with something doesn’t mean you don’t know it’s value, it means you understand its value very well.

    Free speech isn't a negotiation. It's a central pillar of American freedom. But I don't think they teach that in schools anymore.
    It's depressingly obvious that you've never taken a basic Constitutional Law course. If you had, you'd know that just about every Constitutional right, including free speech, is restricted in one form or another.

    It's pretty clear, actually, that you have no fucking clue what they teach in schools.
    You're the sort of left wing fascist filth that's become a disease in the education system. You 'educators' are failing the students and churning out a generation of fucking Marxists who have no concept or respect for the 1st amendment and who want to use the tools of government & social media to clamp down on free expression like they've done in Europe.

    Get the fuck out and go back to Germany you descendant of a Nazi pig.
    Careful, you're jealousy of smert people is showing again.

    And why are you so angry at other people? Look, I don't know how you responded in the religion pole, but you really should be furious at whatever God that made you so fucking retarded.
    You claim to be edumarcated but really you're just a book-read poser. 1984 by Orwell is a pretty accurate summation of the sick dystopia your new democrats want to drag the rest of the nation kicking and screaming into.
    Dude, do you even Animal Farm? You really are fucking retarded. Ts and Ps to you're disappointed parents
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited August 2018
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    I’m using “means” in reference to definition, you’re using it in regards to value. Being willing to negotiate with something doesn’t mean you don’t know it’s value, it means you understand its value very well.

    Free speech isn't a negotiation. It's a central pillar of American freedom. But I don't think they teach that in schools anymore.
    It's depressingly obvious that you've never taken a basic Constitutional Law course. If you had, you'd know that just about every Constitutional right, including free speech, is restricted in one form or another.

    It's pretty clear, actually, that you have no fucking clue what they teach in schools.
    You're the sort of left wing fascist filth that's become a disease in the education system. You 'educators' are failing the students and churning out a generation of fucking Marxists who have no concept or respect for the 1st amendment and who want to use the tools of government & social media to clamp down on free expression like they've done in Europe.

    Get the fuck out and go back to Germany you descendant of a Nazi pig.
    Careful, you're jealousy of smert people is showing again.

    And why are you so angry at other people? Look, I don't know how you responded in the religion pole, but you really should be furious at whatever God that made you so fucking retarded.
    You claim to be edumarcated but really you're just a book-read poser. 1984 by Orwell is a pretty accurate summation of the sick dystopia your new democrats want to drag the rest of the nation kicking and screaming into.
    Dude, do you even Animal Farm? You really are fucking retarded. Ts and Ps to you're disappointed parents
    Dude, I'm quoting you, and you're uber retarded. Seems like you don't like your own reflection in the mirror. Don't worry though, the new democrats are on the way to liberate us all from the freedom that binds. The Constitution was written by slave owners, right? Its a white privilege document we can just toss out when we get in power. These are the retards who are your allies. The democratic socialists Marxist fascists the failed education system produced.
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,924 Founders Club
    edited August 2018

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    Fuck off

    Exactly what I thought. I'm down for Rather being fired and Olberman is an asshat. Just wondering why the other side doesn't feel like they are held to the same standard. Or that the shit Alex Jones says it's ok but Olberman should be fired.
    Alex Jones is an asshat too.

    Doesn't mean he needs to get banned on youtube. Put the crazies out there to be exposed for what they are - asshats.
    I always wonder why the left is afraid to let ideas rise and fall on their own merit.













    Actually, I don't wonder.
    Are you serious? How’s universal healthcare being allowed to rise and fall on its own merit? “Extreme leftism!” With a 60% approval rating. “How are you going to pay for it!?” When even the Koch brothers can’t fund a study that shows it would cost more than our current system.

    If you think this is a left problem and not an everyone problem you’re dumb as fuck.
    Universal Healthcare did rise. A LOT. That is our current system. Thanks Obama!
    Your employer must pay that bill for you if you're unaware.


    Are we? done talking about oranges when the original conversation was about apples?




    Free speech, and the de-platforming of ideas is being done unilaterally along stark political lines. If you cant's see that, than HondoFuckingStupid.

    This is 1000% an everyone problem, because like usual, the left isn't paying attention to the "unintended" consequences the right saw coming from a country mile.

    Or the consequences WERE intended, which we can't rule out either.



    I don’t want to be a dick but it doesn’t seem like you know what universal healthcare is or what free speech means.
    You and I both know the nomenclature Universal Healthcare encompasses a lot of things. It is what was promised with Obamacare - and we know how that turned out - which is my poont.

    If you want it to mean some variant of the single-payer model, whereby the providers have to compete for the business, then sign me up. Until then, the current model is only going to cost more and more and more.


    I seem to care more about actual free speech than those on the left who are so afraid of opposing views they would rather have their opposition silenced. So I think I have that covered.

    But you're always welcome to show me the light.



    I'll wait, Richard.
  • phineasphineas Member Posts: 4,732
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    Fuck off

    Exactly what I thought. I'm down for Rather being fired and Olberman is an asshat. Just wondering why the other side doesn't feel like they are held to the same standard. Or that the shit Alex Jones says it's ok but Olberman should be fired.
    Alex Jones is an asshat too.

    Doesn't mean he needs to get banned on youtube. Put the crazies out there to be exposed for what they are - asshats.
    I always wonder why the left is afraid to let ideas rise and fall on their own merit.













    Actually, I don't wonder.
    Are you serious? How’s universal healthcare being allowed to rise and fall on its own merit? “Extreme leftism!” With a 60% approval rating. “How are you going to pay for it!?” When even the Koch brothers can’t fund a study that shows it would cost more than our current system.

    If you think this is a left problem and not an everyone problem you’re dumb as fuck.
    Universal Healthcare did rise. A LOT. That is our current system. Thanks Obama!
    Your employer must pay that bill for you if you're unaware.


    Are we? done talking about oranges when the original conversation was about apples?




    Free speech, and the de-platforming of ideas is being done unilaterally along stark political lines. If you cant's see that, than HondoFuckingStupid.

    This is 1000% an everyone problem, because like usual, the left isn't paying attention to the "unintended" consequences the right saw coming from a country mile.

    Or the consequences WERE intended, which we can't rule out either.



    I believe they were intended by both sides. This is all just theater for the inevitable. Because we are fs.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    Fuck off

    Exactly what I thought. I'm down for Rather being fired and Olberman is an asshat. Just wondering why the other side doesn't feel like they are held to the same standard. Or that the shit Alex Jones says it's ok but Olberman should be fired.
    Alex Jones is an asshat too.

    Doesn't mean he needs to get banned on youtube. Put the crazies out there to be exposed for what they are - asshats.
    I always wonder why the left is afraid to let ideas rise and fall on their own merit.













    Actually, I don't wonder.
    Are you serious? How’s universal healthcare being allowed to rise and fall on its own merit? “Extreme leftism!” With a 60% approval rating. “How are you going to pay for it!?” When even the Koch brothers can’t fund a study that shows it would cost more than our current system.

    If you think this is a left problem and not an everyone problem you’re dumb as fuck.
    Universal Healthcare did rise. A LOT. That is our current system. Thanks Obama!
    Your employer must pay that bill for you if you're unaware.


    Are we? done talking about oranges when the original conversation was about apples?




    Free speech, and the de-platforming of ideas is being done unilaterally along stark political lines. If you cant's see that, than HondoFuckingStupid.

    This is 1000% an everyone problem, because like usual, the left isn't paying attention to the "unintended" consequences the right saw coming from a country mile.

    Or the consequences WERE intended, which we can't rule out either.



    I don’t want to be a dick but it doesn’t seem like you know what universal healthcare is or what free speech means.
    You and I both know the nomenclature Universal Healthcare encompasses a lot of things. It is what was promised with Obamacare - and we know how that turned out - which is my poont.

    If you want it to mean some variant of the single-payer model, whereby the providers have to compete for the business, then sign me up. Until then, the current model is only going to cost more and more and more.


    I seem to care more about actual free speech than those on the left who are so afraid of opposing views they would rather have their opposition silenced. So I think I have that covered.

    But you're always welcome to show me the light.



    I'll wait, Richard.
    This is cute coming from the guy that wants to ban people.
  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    edited August 2018
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    Fuck off

    Exactly what I thought. I'm down for Rather being fired and Olberman is an asshat. Just wondering why the other side doesn't feel like they are held to the same standard. Or that the shit Alex Jones says it's ok but Olberman should be fired.
    Alex Jones is an asshat too.

    Doesn't mean he needs to get banned on youtube. Put the crazies out there to be exposed for what they are - asshats.
    I always wonder why the left is afraid to let ideas rise and fall on their own merit.













    Actually, I don't wonder.
    Are you serious? How’s universal healthcare being allowed to rise and fall on its own merit? “Extreme leftism!” With a 60% approval rating. “How are you going to pay for it!?” When even the Koch brothers can’t fund a study that shows it would cost more than our current system.

    If you think this is a left problem and not an everyone problem you’re dumb as fuck.
    Universal Healthcare did rise. A LOT. That is our current system. Thanks Obama!
    Your employer must pay that bill for you if you're unaware.


    Are we? done talking about oranges when the original conversation was about apples?




    Free speech, and the de-platforming of ideas is being done unilaterally along stark political lines. If you cant's see that, than HondoFuckingStupid.

    This is 1000% an everyone problem, because like usual, the left isn't paying attention to the "unintended" consequences the right saw coming from a country mile.

    Or the consequences WERE intended, which we can't rule out either.



    I don’t want to be a dick but it doesn’t seem like you know what universal healthcare is or what free speech means.
    You and I both know the nomenclature Universal Healthcare encompasses a lot of things. It is what was promised with Obamacare - and we know how that turned out - which is my poont.

    If you want it to mean some variant of the single-payer model, whereby the providers have to compete for the business, then sign me up. Until then, the current model is only going to cost more and more and more.


    I seem to care more about actual free speech than those on the left who are so afraid of opposing views they would rather have their opposition silenced. So I think I have that covered.

    But you're always welcome to show me the light.



    I'll wait, Richard.
    WTF? This board is so fucking weird. Less than 10% of people are covered by Obamacare. How the fuck is that universal? My god.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,779 Founders Club

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    Fuck off

    Exactly what I thought. I'm down for Rather being fired and Olberman is an asshat. Just wondering why the other side doesn't feel like they are held to the same standard. Or that the shit Alex Jones says it's ok but Olberman should be fired.
    Alex Jones is an asshat too.

    Doesn't mean he needs to get banned on youtube. Put the crazies out there to be exposed for what they are - asshats.
    I always wonder why the left is afraid to let ideas rise and fall on their own merit.













    Actually, I don't wonder.
    Are you serious? How’s universal healthcare being allowed to rise and fall on its own merit? “Extreme leftism!” With a 60% approval rating. “How are you going to pay for it!?” When even the Koch brothers can’t fund a study that shows it would cost more than our current system.

    If you think this is a left problem and not an everyone problem you’re dumb as fuck.
    Universal Healthcare did rise. A LOT. That is our current system. Thanks Obama!
    Your employer must pay that bill for you if you're unaware.


    Are we? done talking about oranges when the original conversation was about apples?




    Free speech, and the de-platforming of ideas is being done unilaterally along stark political lines. If you cant's see that, than HondoFuckingStupid.

    This is 1000% an everyone problem, because like usual, the left isn't paying attention to the "unintended" consequences the right saw coming from a country mile.

    Or the consequences WERE intended, which we can't rule out either.



    I don’t want to be a dick but it doesn’t seem like you know what universal healthcare is or what free speech means.
    You and I both know the nomenclature Universal Healthcare encompasses a lot of things. It is what was promised with Obamacare - and we know how that turned out - which is my poont.

    If you want it to mean some variant of the single-payer model, whereby the providers have to compete for the business, then sign me up. Until then, the current model is only going to cost more and more and more.


    I seem to care more about actual free speech than those on the left who are so afraid of opposing views they would rather have their opposition silenced. So I think I have that covered.

    But you're always welcome to show me the light.



    I'll wait, Richard.
    WTF? This board is so fucking weird. Less than 10% of people are covered by Obamacare. How the fuck is that universal? My god.
    No really?
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    Fuck off

    Exactly what I thought. I'm down for Rather being fired and Olberman is an asshat. Just wondering why the other side doesn't feel like they are held to the same standard. Or that the shit Alex Jones says it's ok but Olberman should be fired.
    Alex Jones is an asshat too.

    Doesn't mean he needs to get banned on youtube. Put the crazies out there to be exposed for what they are - asshats.
    I always wonder why the left is afraid to let ideas rise and fall on their own merit.













    Actually, I don't wonder.
    Are you serious? How’s universal healthcare being allowed to rise and fall on its own merit? “Extreme leftism!” With a 60% approval rating. “How are you going to pay for it!?” When even the Koch brothers can’t fund a study that shows it would cost more than our current system.

    If you think this is a left problem and not an everyone problem you’re dumb as fuck.
    Universal Healthcare did rise. A LOT. That is our current system. Thanks Obama!
    Your employer must pay that bill for you if you're unaware.


    Are we? done talking about oranges when the original conversation was about apples?




    Free speech, and the de-platforming of ideas is being done unilaterally along stark political lines. If you cant's see that, than HondoFuckingStupid.

    This is 1000% an everyone problem, because like usual, the left isn't paying attention to the "unintended" consequences the right saw coming from a country mile.

    Or the consequences WERE intended, which we can't rule out either.



    I don’t want to be a dick but it doesn’t seem like you know what universal healthcare is or what free speech means.
    You and I both know the nomenclature Universal Healthcare encompasses a lot of things. It is what was promised with Obamacare - and we know how that turned out - which is my poont.

    If you want it to mean some variant of the single-payer model, whereby the providers have to compete for the business, then sign me up. Until then, the current model is only going to cost more and more and more.


    I seem to care more about actual free speech than those on the left who are so afraid of opposing views they would rather have their opposition silenced. So I think I have that covered.

    But you're always welcome to show me the light.



    I'll wait, Richard.
    WTF? This board is so fucking weird. Less than 10% of people are covered by Obamacare. How the fuck is that universal? My god.
    Not to mention that those people who buy on the exchange are still paying a private insurance company.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Things Paws doesn’t understand:

    -vaccines
    -universal healthcare

    I’m sensing a pattern...
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,779 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    Fuck off

    Exactly what I thought. I'm down for Rather being fired and Olberman is an asshat. Just wondering why the other side doesn't feel like they are held to the same standard. Or that the shit Alex Jones says it's ok but Olberman should be fired.
    Alex Jones is an asshat too.

    Doesn't mean he needs to get banned on youtube. Put the crazies out there to be exposed for what they are - asshats.
    I always wonder why the left is afraid to let ideas rise and fall on their own merit.













    Actually, I don't wonder.
    Are you serious? How’s universal healthcare being allowed to rise and fall on its own merit? “Extreme leftism!” With a 60% approval rating. “How are you going to pay for it!?” When even the Koch brothers can’t fund a study that shows it would cost more than our current system.

    If you think this is a left problem and not an everyone problem you’re dumb as fuck.
    Universal Healthcare did rise. A LOT. That is our current system. Thanks Obama!
    Your employer must pay that bill for you if you're unaware.


    Are we? done talking about oranges when the original conversation was about apples?




    Free speech, and the de-platforming of ideas is being done unilaterally along stark political lines. If you cant's see that, than HondoFuckingStupid.

    This is 1000% an everyone problem, because like usual, the left isn't paying attention to the "unintended" consequences the right saw coming from a country mile.

    Or the consequences WERE intended, which we can't rule out either.



    I don’t want to be a dick but it doesn’t seem like you know what universal healthcare is or what free speech means.
    You and I both know the nomenclature Universal Healthcare encompasses a lot of things. It is what was promised with Obamacare - and we know how that turned out - which is my poont.

    If you want it to mean some variant of the single-payer model, whereby the providers have to compete for the business, then sign me up. Until then, the current model is only going to cost more and more and more.


    I seem to care more about actual free speech than those on the left who are so afraid of opposing views they would rather have their opposition silenced. So I think I have that covered.

    But you're always welcome to show me the light.



    I'll wait, Richard.
    WTF? This board is so fucking weird. Less than 10% of people are covered by Obamacare. How the fuck is that universal? My god.
    Not to mention that those people who buy on the exchange are still paying a private insurance company.
    Are you still not shilling for Obamacare?

    Hard to tell since you always defend it
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    Fuck off

    Exactly what I thought. I'm down for Rather being fired and Olberman is an asshat. Just wondering why the other side doesn't feel like they are held to the same standard. Or that the shit Alex Jones says it's ok but Olberman should be fired.
    Alex Jones is an asshat too.

    Doesn't mean he needs to get banned on youtube. Put the crazies out there to be exposed for what they are - asshats.
    I always wonder why the left is afraid to let ideas rise and fall on their own merit.













    Actually, I don't wonder.
    Are you serious? How’s universal healthcare being allowed to rise and fall on its own merit? “Extreme leftism!” With a 60% approval rating. “How are you going to pay for it!?” When even the Koch brothers can’t fund a study that shows it would cost more than our current system.

    If you think this is a left problem and not an everyone problem you’re dumb as fuck.
    Universal Healthcare did rise. A LOT. That is our current system. Thanks Obama!
    Your employer must pay that bill for you if you're unaware.


    Are we? done talking about oranges when the original conversation was about apples?




    Free speech, and the de-platforming of ideas is being done unilaterally along stark political lines. If you cant's see that, than HondoFuckingStupid.

    This is 1000% an everyone problem, because like usual, the left isn't paying attention to the "unintended" consequences the right saw coming from a country mile.

    Or the consequences WERE intended, which we can't rule out either.



    I don’t want to be a dick but it doesn’t seem like you know what universal healthcare is or what free speech means.
    You and I both know the nomenclature Universal Healthcare encompasses a lot of things. It is what was promised with Obamacare - and we know how that turned out - which is my poont.

    If you want it to mean some variant of the single-payer model, whereby the providers have to compete for the business, then sign me up. Until then, the current model is only going to cost more and more and more.


    I seem to care more about actual free speech than those on the left who are so afraid of opposing views they would rather have their opposition silenced. So I think I have that covered.

    But you're always welcome to show me the light.



    I'll wait, Richard.
    WTF? This board is so fucking weird. Less than 10% of people are covered by Obamacare. How the fuck is that universal? My god.
    Not to mention that those people who buy on the exchange are still paying a private insurance company.
    Are you still not shilling for Obamacare?

    Hard to tell since you always defend it
    Race hates facts.

    That being said, Obamacare is awful.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,779 Founders Club
    And yet you defend it every chance you get. It's Obama's only legacy, you have to
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