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CIA Admits Spying on Senate Staffers

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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    pawz said:

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    That's not a good reason to then abdicate the right either.
    Of course not. But it certainly puts a damper on the argument that guns protect our rights. I own guns. I’m generally in support of the 2A and responsible ownership. But we have a sick gun culture in this country. But anyways...

    Some conservatives love to bitch about the government, and yet they want to execute whistle blowers that expose the shit they do wrong. You can blame Obama for not rolling it back (I do), but it was a conservative government that gave us the Patriot Act. I don’t remember any of you saying a peep back then. And I certainly don’t see Trump reigning it in. If Obama gets blame for leaving it in place, so does Trump, and every leader to follow until it changes.

    Generally? There is no middle ground on the 2nd amendment. You're either for it or against it.
    I’m for it. I’m just embarrassed by the vocal minority gun people that think it’s a toy or a prop. I also believe that stricter rules would not infringe on our rights.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    pawz said:

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    That's not a good reason to then abdicate the right either.
    Of course not. But it certainly puts a damper on the argument that guns protect our rights. I own guns. I’m generally in support of the 2A and responsible ownership. But we have a sick gun culture in this country. But anyways...

    Some conservatives love to bitch about the government, and yet they want to execute whistle blowers that expose the shit they do wrong. You can blame Obama for not rolling it back (I do), but it was a conservative government that gave us the Patriot Act. I don’t remember any of you saying a peep back then. And I certainly don’t see Trump reigning it in. If Obama gets blame for leaving it in place, so does Trump, and every leader to follow until it changes.

    Generally? There is no middle ground on the 2nd amendment. You're either for it or against it.
    I’m for it. I’m just embarrassed by the vocal minority gun people that think it’s a toy or a prop. I also believe that stricter rules would not infringe on our rights.
    OBK doesn't understand what you just said.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    pawz said:
    Seattle Times headline today tells a different story, acting like Trump is unhinged on this issue
    So you are saying you just read the headline.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,057 Founders Club

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    This is 100% true
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,057 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    Wtf does owning guns have to do with this?
    This is also 100% true
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,057 Founders Club

    I'm hearing that Trump revoking the security status of Brennen, Clapper, and Comey and the rest is a threat to America

    All those guys would still be pieces of shit if Trump was never born

    Why the fuck do you get to keep your clearance after the job anyway? When I got shitcanned from Toys R Us my email was shut off within 30 mins.
    I wonder if @Swaye was allowed to keep his Jiffy Lube email?
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    That's not a good reason to then abdicate the right either.
    Of course not. But it certainly puts a damper on the argument that guns protect our rights. I own guns. I’m generally in support of the 2A and responsible ownership. But we have a sick gun culture in this country. But anyways...

    Some conservatives love to bitch about the government, and yet they want to execute whistle blowers that expose the shit they do wrong. You can blame Obama for not rolling it back (I do), but it was a conservative government that gave us the Patriot Act. I don’t remember any of you saying a peep back then. And I certainly don’t see Trump reigning it in. If Obama gets blame for leaving it in place, so does Trump, and every leader to follow until it changes.

    Generally? There is no middle ground on the 2nd amendment. You're either for it or against it.
    I’m for it. I’m just embarrassed by the vocal minority gun people that think it’s a toy or a prop. I also believe that stricter rules would not infringe on our rights.
    OBK doesn't understand what you just said.
    Nuance is not OBKs wheelhouse
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,219 Standard Supporter

    pawz said:

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    That's not a good reason to then abdicate the right either.
    Of course not. But it certainly puts a damper on the argument that guns protect our rights. I own guns. I’m generally in support of the 2A and responsible ownership. But we have a sick gun culture in this country. But anyways...

    Some conservatives love to bitch about the government, and yet they want to execute whistle blowers that expose the shit they do wrong. You can blame Obama for not rolling it back (I do), but it was a conservative government that gave us the Patriot Act. I don’t remember any of you saying a peep back then. And I certainly don’t see Trump reigning it in. If Obama gets blame for leaving it in place, so does Trump, and every leader to follow until it changes.

    Generally? There is no middle ground on the 2nd amendment. You're either for it or against it.
    I’m for it. I’m just embarrassed by the vocal minority gun people that think it’s a toy or a prop. I also believe that stricter rules would not infringe on our rights.
    I'm guessing you think free speech should have more controls.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Sledog said:

    pawz said:

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    That's not a good reason to then abdicate the right either.
    Of course not. But it certainly puts a damper on the argument that guns protect our rights. I own guns. I’m generally in support of the 2A and responsible ownership. But we have a sick gun culture in this country. But anyways...

    Some conservatives love to bitch about the government, and yet they want to execute whistle blowers that expose the shit they do wrong. You can blame Obama for not rolling it back (I do), but it was a conservative government that gave us the Patriot Act. I don’t remember any of you saying a peep back then. And I certainly don’t see Trump reigning it in. If Obama gets blame for leaving it in place, so does Trump, and every leader to follow until it changes.

    Generally? There is no middle ground on the 2nd amendment. You're either for it or against it.
    I’m for it. I’m just embarrassed by the vocal minority gun people that think it’s a toy or a prop. I also believe that stricter rules would not infringe on our rights.
    I'm guessing you think free speech should have more controls.
    Nah. I wouldn’t even want you to shut up.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Did anyone realize this is from 2014? I am glad that pawz and Derek stand with Diane Feinstein. It's a good look.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,986
    edited August 2018
    2001400ex said:

    Did anyone realize this is from 2014? I am glad that pawz and Derek stand with Diane Feinstein. It's a good look.

    Was it the 2014 in the link itself that gave it away for you? Speed limit IQ...

    Hey look...HondoFS still hasn’t paid up. BIG surprise...wonder if it’s because the patties aren’t flipping themselves or the partner(?) won’t let him spend the $$$.

    Can I sponsor your donation to HH for the year? Would be worth it as long as I get to add a disclaimer of my choosing to every one of your poasts...
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,156 Founders Club
    #aclockworkshill doesn't want to admit it's still relevant
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    Wtf does owning guns have to do with this?
    The 2A crowd insists that guns safeguard our rights. The fact that we have plenty of guns and no privacy rights from our own government spy agencies says otherwise.
    There you go again Tommy, reaching like a fucking Hondo.
    Ok, so you’re content with the current state of privacy rights in today’s America?
    No.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    #aclockworkshill doesn't want to admit it's still relevant

    It's only relevant to idiots, like you, who can't respond to anything about Trump without bringing up Obama or Hillary.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    Wtf does owning guns have to do with this?
    The 2A crowd insists that guns safeguard our rights. The fact that we have plenty of guns and no privacy rights from our own government spy agencies says otherwise.
    There you go again Tommy, reaching like a fucking Hondo.
    Ok, so you’re content with the current state of privacy rights in today’s America?
    No.
    I didn’t think so.
  • USMChawkUSMChawk Member Posts: 1,800
    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    #aclockworkshill doesn't want to admit it's still relevant

    It's only relevant to idiots, like you, who can't respond to anything about Trump without bringing up Obama or Hillary.
    You keep saying this, like it’s somehow inconceivable to compare the current President to the previous president (or against his defeated opponent); that’s a classic red herring. When Trump is getting backlash for something that happened during Obama’s presidency, it’s a relevant discussion point.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,021
    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    #aclockworkshill doesn't want to admit it's still relevant

    It's only relevant to idiots, like you, who can't respond to anything about Trump without bringing up Obama or Hillary.
    You keep saying this, like it’s somehow inconceivable to compare the current President to the previous president (or against his defeated opponent); that’s a classic red herring. When Trump is getting backlash for something that happened during Obama’s presidency, it’s a relevant discussion point.
    And every time Trump does something crazy it's a direct reflection on Hillary because only could someone as shitty as her lead to a reality TV guy being the president.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    #aclockworkshill doesn't want to admit it's still relevant

    It's only relevant to idiots, like you, who can't respond to anything about Trump without bringing up Obama or Hillary.
    You keep saying this, like it’s somehow inconceivable to compare the current President to the previous president (or against his defeated opponent); that’s a classic red herring. When Trump is getting backlash for something that happened during Obama’s presidency, it’s a relevant discussion point.
    And every time Trump does something crazy it's a direct reflection on Hillary because only could someone as shitty as her lead to a reality TV guy being the president.
    So Sark being 7 win Steve is a direct reflection on Ty. That's some FS Kim Grinolds shit right there.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited August 2018
    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    #aclockworkshill doesn't want to admit it's still relevant

    It's only relevant to idiots, like you, who can't respond to anything about Trump without bringing up Obama or Hillary.
    You keep saying this, like it’s somehow inconceivable to compare the current President to the previous president (or against his defeated opponent); that’s a classic red herring. When Trump is getting backlash for something that happened during Obama’s presidency, it’s a relevant discussion point.
    No you aren't comparing shit. When Trump does something stupid. Your news source researches the shit out of it to find something Obama did that was maybe similar. To justify Trump's actions. Remember all the shit your news source gave Obama for blaming Bush? It was FS then and it's FS now. Defend Trump's actions on their own.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,804 Founders Club
    Hondo's embittered love affair with Hillary is the best part of this bored
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