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  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,057 Founders Club
    pawz said:
    Seattle Times headline today tells a different story, acting like Trump is unhinged on this issue
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,520 Standard Supporter
    pawz said:
    https://xhamster.com/videos/madeline-stowe-stakeout-4529145

    The Throbber is willing to bend a bit on the legalities of surveillance if the subject is hot and has nice tits.

  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,730 Standard Supporter
    from 2014? Brennan should resign...oh wait
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,156 Founders Club

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    That's not a good reason to then abdicate the right either.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,219 Standard Supporter

    I remember the good old days when stuff like this would scare true Liberals to death...

    The "liberals" (code for communist these days) are running the operation. All of this will trace back to BHO and his attempt to use the government apparatus to steal an election for his side.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    pawz said:

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    That's not a good reason to then abdicate the right either.
    Of course not. But it certainly puts a damper on the argument that guns protect our rights. I own guns. I’m generally in support of the 2A and responsible ownership. But we have a sick gun culture in this country. But anyways...

    Some conservatives love to bitch about the government, and yet they want to execute whistle blowers that expose the shit they do wrong. You can blame Obama for not rolling it back (I do), but it was a conservative government that gave us the Patriot Act. I don’t remember any of you saying a peep back then. And I certainly don’t see Trump reigning it in. If Obama gets blame for leaving it in place, so does Trump, and every leader to follow until it changes.

  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    I'm hearing that Trump revoking the security status of Brennen, Clapper, and Comey and the rest is a threat to America

    All those guys would still be pieces of shit if Trump was never born

    They supported the same Iraq War you did...
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    Wtf does owning guns have to do with this?
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    salemcoog said:

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    Wtf does owning guns have to do with this?
    The 2A crowd insists that guns safeguard our rights. The fact that we have plenty of guns and no privacy rights from our own government spy agencies says otherwise.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886

    salemcoog said:

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    Wtf does owning guns have to do with this?
    The 2A crowd insists that guns safeguard our rights. The fact that we have plenty of guns and no privacy rights from our own government spy agencies says otherwise.
    There you go again Tommy, reaching like a fucking Hondo.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    Wtf does owning guns have to do with this?
    The 2A crowd insists that guns safeguard our rights. The fact that we have plenty of guns and no privacy rights from our own government spy agencies says otherwise.
    There you go again Tommy, reaching like a fucking Hondo.
    Ok, so you’re content with the current state of privacy rights in today’s America?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,219 Standard Supporter

    pawz said:

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    That's not a good reason to then abdicate the right either.
    Of course not. But it certainly puts a damper on the argument that guns protect our rights. I own guns. I’m generally in support of the 2A and responsible ownership. But we have a sick gun culture in this country. But anyways...

    Some conservatives love to bitch about the government, and yet they want to execute whistle blowers that expose the shit they do wrong. You can blame Obama for not rolling it back (I do), but it was a conservative government that gave us the Patriot Act. I don’t remember any of you saying a peep back then. And I certainly don’t see Trump reigning it in. If Obama gets blame for leaving it in place, so does Trump, and every leader to follow until it changes.

    I'm against the patriot act and always have been. Huge intrusion on our privacy and how it's legal is insane!
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    pawz said:

    This is pretty fucked up. Spying on domestic soil is the NSA’s job!!!

    Are any of you really naive enough to think this is an isolated incident though? Our privacy rights are gone and owning millions of guns didn’t stop them from doing it.

    That's not a good reason to then abdicate the right either.
    Of course not. But it certainly puts a damper on the argument that guns protect our rights. I own guns. I’m generally in support of the 2A and responsible ownership. But we have a sick gun culture in this country. But anyways...

    Some conservatives love to bitch about the government, and yet they want to execute whistle blowers that expose the shit they do wrong. You can blame Obama for not rolling it back (I do), but it was a conservative government that gave us the Patriot Act. I don’t remember any of you saying a peep back then. And I certainly don’t see Trump reigning it in. If Obama gets blame for leaving it in place, so does Trump, and every leader to follow until it changes.

    Generally? There is no middle ground on the 2nd amendment. You're either for it or against it.
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