Mainly to stick it to the leftists is what I want it for.
I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.
(It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)
However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.
Here in Cali they took the first steps to making it easier for "undocumented peoples" to vote by allowing them all to register for state ID's with no existing proof of identity.
As much as I think right now it's an overhyped problem by the right it's not at all hard to imagine how the Dems are drooling at the prospect of stuffing ballot boxes with illegals they can make worlds of promises to and never have to deliver on.
Isn't it odd that these same Dems don't want guest worker programs or to expand legal immigration? I can't for the life of me figure that out.
Are you really that dumb?
CA AB-60 had illegals lined up for blocks around the DMV's here when it passed. You might be technically correct that they need *some kind of ID but the requirements are paper thin and laughable. You could bring in a phone bill as proof of CA residency and ironically enough, a Mexican voter ID as your proof of ID.
You can claim, and I don't entirely disagree, that this is reasonable policy to improve driver safety etc. but it also has a certain smell to it from the same party that claims no person is illegal while also trying to deny it ever entertained the idea of "open borders".
For the record again, I'm for guest worker programs and/or expanding LEGAL immigration. By exponential numbers if necessary. Whatever it is though, I want it to be a LEGAL process. What I don't want is a de-facto immigration policy that leaves a large swathe of people in limbo and continuously held at the mercy of the state and the politicians in power.
Good discussion. But show me where one illegal alien has been registered to vote and actually voted in an election.
I said I didn't believe that that was a major problem YET but that this is a step in the direction of allowing "undocumented peoples" to vote since you know, they won't be undocumented anymore.
It's like the "Ban all assault rifles" crowd claiming no one is calling to "ban all guns".
Mainly to stick it to the leftists is what I want it for.
I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.
(It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)
However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.
Here in Cali they took the first steps to making it easier for "undocumented peoples" to vote by allowing them all to register for state ID's with no existing proof of identity.
As much as I think right now it's an overhyped problem by the right it's not at all hard to imagine how the Dems are drooling at the prospect of stuffing ballot boxes with illegals they can make worlds of promises to and never have to deliver on.
Isn't it odd that these same Dems don't want guest worker programs or to expand legal immigration? I can't for the life of me figure that out.
Are you really that dumb?
CA AB-60 had illegals lined up for blocks around the DMV's here when it passed. You might be technically correct that they need *some kind of ID but the requirements are paper thin and laughable. You could bring in a phone bill as proof of CA residency and ironically enough, a Mexican voter ID as your proof of ID.
You can claim, and I don't entirely disagree, that this is reasonable policy to improve driver safety etc. but it also has a certain smell to it from the same party that claims no person is illegal while also trying to deny it ever entertained the idea of "open borders".
For the record again, I'm for guest worker programs and/or expanding LEGAL immigration. By exponential numbers if necessary. Whatever it is though, I want it to be a LEGAL process. What I don't want is a de-facto immigration policy that leaves a large swathe of people in limbo and continuously held at the mercy of the state and the politicians in power.
Why do we need immigration expanded exponentially? Why do we need it expanded at all? We're getting close to a population of half a billion. Enough is enough.
Demographically speaking our entire economic system and many of our governmental entitlements are set up on the assumption of a growing population. Our birth rate has rapidly decreased but part of the reason our country hasn't felt the ill effects like Japan or Europe is because we make up for it with immigration.
It's a different but related discussion but we've also got the advantage of deciding who we want to take for what since living in the US is essentially a golden ticket. Need cheap seasonal labor? We can have that if we want. Need top scientist and researchers? We can have that if we want. Want only the most talented and brightest? We can have that if we want.
I also to some extent do agree with @CirrhosisDawg that the economics of it make it somewhat chinevitable that prohibition of immigration won't work. Might as well legalize and regulate the market rather than try to fight it.
I find it interesting how 'a decreasing population is a bad thing' has become accepted conventional wisdom. The market goes up and it goes down to maintain a healthy balance. Why shouldn't immigration too? If a trade becomes crowded and everyone is on one side of the trade, that's a fairly good indicator that a sell off is likely on the horizon. Massive immigration is a one sided, crowded trade that inevitably results in a 'social crash.' Just axe Merkel. She imported a ton of Islamic fascists and now terrorist attacks are commonplace in Europe and her government is facing a serious revolt. If these programs are set up to require a constantly expanding population to keep them going, then it's time to consider changing these programs.
PS. I'm all for merit based immigration, as long as we are only signing 5 star recruits, primarily in the sciences. Shut the fucking gates on everyone else.
Mainly to stick it to the leftists is what I want it for.
I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.
(It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)
However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.
Here in Cali they took the first steps to making it easier for "undocumented peoples" to vote by allowing them all to register for state ID's with no existing proof of identity.
As much as I think right now it's an overhyped problem by the right it's not at all hard to imagine how the Dems are drooling at the prospect of stuffing ballot boxes with illegals they can make worlds of promises to and never have to deliver on.
Isn't it odd that these same Dems don't want guest worker programs or to expand legal immigration? I can't for the life of me figure that out.
They also register those illegals to vote. The state registers them to vote. Let that sink in.
I recall democrats saying Voting is a right and we shouldn't require ID's to exercise a right. So then it should be OK to just walk in and buy guns with no ID or background check since I am exercising a constitutional right. Otherwise we are taking rights away from the pour.
When there are 20 to 40 million illegals in the country we definitely need a voter ID law.
So should guns be free too since they are a constitutional right? Like voting is required to be.
Have the fucking ID be taxpayer funded Einstein
How are you going to pay for that?
Chinese tariffs
Will there be money leftover after we provide subsidies to all the effected American industries?
Yeah in the big scheme of things it's not that expensive
So you are saying that you can put a price tag on ignorance, failure and incompetence?
“It’s not that expensive.” PGOS FS.
If fucking Costco can do it the fucking US gov can send a fucking ID out the probably costs a dollar per person.
Costco charges for that shit. That being said. What problem are we solving by requiring voter ID?
Illegals voting, primarily. Secondly, dead registered dem voters.
And we finally return to the false premise you began with
If it's a false premise than there is nothing to be afriad of, except government spending more money which is always a win for the left.
Hth
It’s a solution to something that doesn’t happen hth
Let's give it a try then chief!
It doesn’t happen hth
You sound scared it does. You know it does.
It doesn’t happen hth
Youre very convincing!!
And you’re not looking to be convinced! No amount of contrary evidence would change your moronic belief that significant quantities of illegal immigrants and dead people vote for democrats.
I'd be in favor of a federal ID. Use it for everything:
- voting - owning weapons - driving - grazing your cattle on public land - tracking your health information - tracking your bailouts from Trump's trade wars
The militia movement and their christian fanatic membership foresaw this day many many years ago. Next, the UN will be invading (or the Russians, in Trump's case).
If you can't see that Trump is "The Beast" from the book of Revelations, I can't help you.
I'd be in favor of a federal ID. Use it for everything:
- voting - owning weapons - driving - grazing your cattle on public land - tracking your health information
The militia movement and their christian fanatic membership foresaw this day many many years ago. Next, the UN will be invading (or the Russians, in Trump's case).
If you can't see that Trump is "The Beast" from the book of Revelations, I can't help you.
What's really funny is Mexico requires them to have voter I.D.
I'd be in favor of a federal ID. Use it for everything:
- voting - owning weapons - driving - grazing your cattle on public land - tracking your health information
The militia movement and their christian fanatic membership foresaw this day many many years ago. Next, the UN will be invading (or the Russians, in Trump's case).
If you can't see that Trump is "The Beast" from the book of Revelations, I can't help you.
What's really funny is Mexico requires them to have voter I.D.
As I've said, I favor federal ID too, just don't stop at voter ID, use it for everything.
I'd be in favor of a federal ID. Use it for everything:
- voting - owning weapons - driving - grazing your cattle on public land - tracking your health information
The militia movement and their christian fanatic membership foresaw this day many many years ago. Next, the UN will be invading (or the Russians, in Trump's case).
If you can't see that Trump is "The Beast" from the book of Revelations, I can't help you.
What's really funny is Mexico requires them to have voter I.D.
Do you trust their election results better than ours?
Mainly to stick it to the leftists is what I want it for.
I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.
(It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)
However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.
Here in Cali they took the first steps to making it easier for "undocumented peoples" to vote by allowing them all to register for state ID's with no existing proof of identity.
As much as I think right now it's an overhyped problem by the right it's not at all hard to imagine how the Dems are drooling at the prospect of stuffing ballot boxes with illegals they can make worlds of promises to and never have to deliver on.
Isn't it odd that these same Dems don't want guest worker programs or to expand legal immigration? I can't for the life of me figure that out.
Are you really that dumb?
CA AB-60 had illegals lined up for blocks around the DMV's here when it passed. You might be technically correct that they need *some kind of ID but the requirements are paper thin and laughable. You could bring in a phone bill as proof of CA residency and ironically enough, a Mexican voter ID as your proof of ID.
You can claim, and I don't entirely disagree, that this is reasonable policy to improve driver safety etc. but it also has a certain smell to it from the same party that claims no person is illegal while also trying to deny it ever entertained the idea of "open borders".
For the record again, I'm for guest worker programs and/or expanding LEGAL immigration. By exponential numbers if necessary. Whatever it is though, I want it to be a LEGAL process. What I don't want is a de-facto immigration policy that leaves a large swathe of people in limbo and continuously held at the mercy of the state and the politicians in power.
Mainly to stick it to the leftists is what I want it for.
I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.
(It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)
However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.
Here in Cali they took the first steps to making it easier for "undocumented peoples" to vote by allowing them all to register for state ID's with no existing proof of identity.
As much as I think right now it's an overhyped problem by the right it's not at all hard to imagine how the Dems are drooling at the prospect of stuffing ballot boxes with illegals they can make worlds of promises to and never have to deliver on.
Isn't it odd that these same Dems don't want guest worker programs or to expand legal immigration? I can't for the life of me figure that out.
Are you really that dumb?
CA AB-60 had illegals lined up for blocks around the DMV's here when it passed. You might be technically correct that they need *some kind of ID but the requirements are paper thin and laughable. You could bring in a phone bill as proof of CA residency and ironically enough, a Mexican voter ID as your proof of ID.
You can claim, and I don't entirely disagree, that this is reasonable policy to improve driver safety etc. but it also has a certain smell to it from the same party that claims no person is illegal while also trying to deny it ever entertained the idea of "open borders".
For the record again, I'm for guest worker programs and/or expanding LEGAL immigration. By exponential numbers if necessary. Whatever it is though, I want it to be a LEGAL process. What I don't want is a de-facto immigration policy that leaves a large swathe of people in limbo and continuously held at the mercy of the state and the politicians in power.
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It's like the "Ban all assault rifles" crowd claiming no one is calling to "ban all guns".
Google it loser
PS. I'm all for merit based immigration, as long as we are only signing 5 star recruits, primarily in the sciences. Shut the fucking gates on everyone else.
- voting
- owning weapons
- driving
- grazing your cattle on public land
- tracking your health information
- tracking your bailouts from Trump's trade wars
The militia movement and their christian fanatic membership foresaw this day many many years ago. Next, the UN will be invading (or the Russians, in Trump's case).
If you can't see that Trump is "The Beast" from the book of Revelations, I can't help you.
There's no room for this kind of shit here.
What a butthole you are.
You need an ID to drive a car legally.
Why wouldn’t you need an ID to verify one is legal to vote?