I recall democrats saying Voting is a right and we shouldn't require ID's to exercise a right. So then it should be OK to just walk in and buy guns with no ID or background check since I am exercising a constitutional right. Otherwise we are taking rights away from the pour.
When there are 20 to 40 million illegals in the country we definitely need a voter ID law.
So should guns be free too since they are a constitutional right? Like voting is required to be.
Have the fucking ID be taxpayer funded Einstein
How are you going to pay for that?
Chinese tariffs
Will there be money leftover after we provide subsidies to all the effected American industries?
Yeah in the big scheme of things it's not that expensive
So you are saying that you can put a price tag on ignorance, failure and incompetence?
“It’s not that expensive.” PGOS FS.
If fucking Costco can do it the fucking US gov can send a fucking ID out the probably costs a dollar per person.
Costco charges for that shit. That being said. What problem are we solving by requiring voter ID?
Illegals voting, primarily. Secondly, dead registered dem voters.
And we finally return to the false premise you began with
If it's a false premise than there is nothing to be afriad of, except government spending more money which is always a win for the left.
Hth
Don't act like Democrats have a monopoly on excessive spending.
I recall democrats saying Voting is a right and we shouldn't require ID's to exercise a right. So then it should be OK to just walk in and buy guns with no ID or background check since I am exercising a constitutional right. Otherwise we are taking rights away from the pour.
When there are 20 to 40 million illegals in the country we definitely need a voter ID law.
So should guns be free too since they are a constitutional right? Like voting is required to be.
Have the fucking ID be taxpayer funded Einstein
How are you going to pay for that?
Chinese tariffs
Will there be money leftover after we provide subsidies to all the effected American industries?
Yeah in the big scheme of things it's not that expensive
So you are saying that you can put a price tag on ignorance, failure and incompetence?
“It’s not that expensive.” PGOS FS.
If fucking Costco can do it the fucking US gov can send a fucking ID out the probably costs a dollar per person.
Costco charges for that shit. That being said. What problem are we solving by requiring voter ID?
Illegals voting, primarily. Secondly, dead registered dem voters.
And we finally return to the false premise you began with
If it's a false premise than there is nothing to be afriad of, except government spending more money which is always a win for the left.
Hth
It’s a solution to something that doesn’t happen hth
Let's give it a try then chief!
It doesn’t happen hth
You sound scared it does. You know it does.
Illegals and dead voting is scary. I'd like to see the discussion and a link on this.
I recall democrats saying Voting is a right and we shouldn't require ID's to exercise a right. So then it should be OK to just walk in and buy guns with no ID or background check since I am exercising a constitutional right. Otherwise we are taking rights away from the pour.
When there are 20 to 40 million illegals in the country we definitely need a voter ID law.
So should guns be free too since they are a constitutional right? Like voting is required to be.
Have the fucking ID be taxpayer funded Einstein
How are you going to pay for that?
Chinese tariffs
Will there be money leftover after we provide subsidies to all the effected American industries?
Yeah in the big scheme of things it's not that expensive
So you are saying that you can put a price tag on ignorance, failure and incompetence?
“It’s not that expensive.” PGOS FS.
If fucking Costco can do it the fucking US gov can send a fucking ID out the probably costs a dollar per person.
Costco charges for that shit. That being said. What problem are we solving by requiring voter ID?
Illegals voting, primarily. Secondly, dead registered dem voters.
And we finally return to the false premise you began with
If it's a false premise than there is nothing to be afriad of, except government spending more money which is always a win for the left.
Hth
It’s a solution to something that doesn’t happen hth
Let's give it a try then chief!
It doesn’t happen hth
You sound scared it does. You know it does.
It doesn’t happen hth
Youre very convincing!!
And you’re not looking to be convinced! No amount of contrary evidence would change your moronic belief that significant quantities of illegal immigrants and dead people vote for democrats.
I recall democrats saying Voting is a right and we shouldn't require ID's to exercise a right. So then it should be OK to just walk in and buy guns with no ID or background check since I am exercising a constitutional right. Otherwise we are taking rights away from the pour.
When there are 20 to 40 million illegals in the country we definitely need a voter ID law.
So should guns be free too since they are a constitutional right? Like voting is required to be.
Have the fucking ID be taxpayer funded Einstein
How are you going to pay for that?
Ironic.
HTF are we gonna pay for the 5 trillion of free Shit that you wish to give away per year?
Mainly to stick it to the leftists is what I want it for.
I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.
(It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)
However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.
Mainly to stick it to the leftists is what I want it for.
I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.
(It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)
However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.
Here in Cali they took the first steps to making it easier for "undocumented peoples" to vote by allowing them all to register for state ID's with no existing proof of identity.
As much as I think right now it's an overhyped problem by the right it's not at all hard to imagine how the Dems are drooling at the prospect of stuffing ballot boxes with illegals they can make worlds of promises to and never have to deliver on.
Isn't it odd that these same Dems don't want guest worker programs or to expand legal immigration? I can't for the life of me figure that out.
I recall democrats saying Voting is a right and we shouldn't require ID's to exercise a right. So then it should be OK to just walk in and buy guns with no ID or background check since I am exercising a constitutional right. Otherwise we are taking rights away from the pour.
When there are 20 to 40 million illegals in the country we definitely need a voter ID law.
So should guns be free too since they are a constitutional right? Like voting is required to be.
Have the fucking ID be taxpayer funded Einstein
How are you going to pay for that?
Chinese tariffs
Will there be money leftover after we provide subsidies to all the effected American industries?
Yeah in the big scheme of things it's not that expensive
So you are saying that you can put a price tag on ignorance, failure and incompetence?
“It’s not that expensive.” PGOS FS.
If fucking Costco can do it the fucking US gov can send a fucking ID out the probably costs a dollar per person.
Costco charges for that shit. That being said. What problem are we solving by requiring voter ID?
Illegals voting, primarily. Secondly, dead registered dem voters.
And we finally return to the false premise you began with
If it's a false premise than there is nothing to be afriad of, except government spending more money which is always a win for the left.
Hth
It’s a solution to something that doesn’t happen hth
Let's give it a try then chief!
It doesn’t happen hth
You sound scared it does. You know it does.
It doesn’t happen hth
So why are you so scared of the local state fed govt verifying who a person is and where they live when they register to vote?
You don’t want people voting in State county and local races for candidates that don’t even serve them and therefore aren’t eligible to vote for.
But you never thought that deep about it or you wouldn’t be posting like Hondo about it.
I recall democrats saying Voting is a right and we shouldn't require ID's to exercise a right. So then it should be OK to just walk in and buy guns with no ID or background check since I am exercising a constitutional right. Otherwise we are taking rights away from the pour.
When there are 20 to 40 million illegals in the country we definitely need a voter ID law.
So should guns be free too since they are a constitutional right? Like voting is required to be.
Mainly to stick it to the leftists is what I want it for.
I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.
(It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)
However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.
Here in Cali they took the first steps to making it easier for "undocumented peoples" to vote by allowing them all to register for state ID's with no existing proof of identity.
As much as I think right now it's an overhyped problem by the right it's not at all hard to imagine how the Dems are drooling at the prospect of stuffing ballot boxes with illegals they can make worlds of promises to and never have to deliver on.
Isn't it odd that these same Dems don't want guest worker programs or to expand legal immigration? I can't for the life of me figure that out.
Mainly to stick it to the leftists is what I want it for.
I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.
(It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)
However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.
Here in Cali they took the first steps to making it easier for "undocumented peoples" to vote by allowing them all to register for state ID's with no existing proof of identity.
As much as I think right now it's an overhyped problem by the right it's not at all hard to imagine how the Dems are drooling at the prospect of stuffing ballot boxes with illegals they can make worlds of promises to and never have to deliver on.
Isn't it odd that these same Dems don't want guest worker programs or to expand legal immigration? I can't for the life of me figure that out.
It's just bizarre. They already have (had) the working class base.
Why replace them?
Yeah all the bleeding hearts are morons and cry racism but the real people making the decisions don't give a fuck about that.
Mainly to stick it to the leftists is what I want it for.
I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.
(It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)
However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.
Here in Cali they took the first steps to making it easier for "undocumented peoples" to vote by allowing them all to register for state ID's with no existing proof of identity.
As much as I think right now it's an overhyped problem by the right it's not at all hard to imagine how the Dems are drooling at the prospect of stuffing ballot boxes with illegals they can make worlds of promises to and never have to deliver on.
Isn't it odd that these same Dems don't want guest worker programs or to expand legal immigration? I can't for the life of me figure that out.
It's just bizarre. They already have (had) the working class base.
Why replace them?
Yeah all the bleeding hearts are morons and cry racism but the real people making the decisions don't give a fuck about that.
As someone having a house built, why would I want to pay an inflated price for labor? I benefit by saving money on the house which allows me to purchase other things. I win and the laborer wins. You sound like taxi drivers who are angry about Uber and want the government to step in and make it more costly for Uber to drive people.
Mainly to stick it to the leftists is what I want it for.
I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.
(It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)
However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.
Here in Cali they took the first steps to making it easier for "undocumented peoples" to vote by allowing them all to register for state ID's with no existing proof of identity.
As much as I think right now it's an overhyped problem by the right it's not at all hard to imagine how the Dems are drooling at the prospect of stuffing ballot boxes with illegals they can make worlds of promises to and never have to deliver on.
Isn't it odd that these same Dems don't want guest worker programs or to expand legal immigration? I can't for the life of me figure that out.
Are you really that dumb?
CA AB-60 had illegals lined up for blocks around the DMV's here when it passed. You might be technically correct that they need *some kind of ID but the requirements are paper thin and laughable. You could bring in a phone bill as proof of CA residency and ironically enough, a Mexican voter ID as your proof of ID.
You can claim, and I don't entirely disagree, that this is reasonable policy to improve driver safety etc. but it also has a certain smell to it from the same party that claims no person is illegal while also trying to deny it ever entertained the idea of "open borders".
For the record again, I'm for guest worker programs and/or expanding LEGAL immigration. By exponential numbers if necessary. Whatever it is though, I want it to be a LEGAL process. What I don't want is a de-facto immigration policy that leaves a large swathe of people in limbo and continuously held at the mercy of the state and the politicians in power.
Mainly to stick it to the leftists is what I want it for.
I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.
(It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)
However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.
Here in Cali they took the first steps to making it easier for "undocumented peoples" to vote by allowing them all to register for state ID's with no existing proof of identity.
As much as I think right now it's an overhyped problem by the right it's not at all hard to imagine how the Dems are drooling at the prospect of stuffing ballot boxes with illegals they can make worlds of promises to and never have to deliver on.
Isn't it odd that these same Dems don't want guest worker programs or to expand legal immigration? I can't for the life of me figure that out.
Are you really that dumb?
CA AB-60 had illegals lined up for blocks around the DMV's here when it passed. You might be technically correct that they need *some kind of ID but the requirements are paper thin and laughable. You could bring in a phone bill as proof of CA residency and ironically enough, a Mexican voter ID as your proof of ID.
You can claim, and I don't entirely disagree, that this is reasonable policy to improve driver safety etc. but it also has a certain smell to it from the same party that claims no person is illegal while also trying to deny it ever entertained the idea of "open borders".
For the record again, I'm for guest worker programs and/or expanding LEGAL immigration. By exponential numbers if necessary. Whatever it is though, I want it to be a LEGAL process. What I don't want is a de-facto immigration policy that leaves a large swathe of people in limbo and continuously held at the mercy of the state and the politicians in power.
Why do we need immigration expanded exponentially? Why do we need it expanded at all? We're getting close to a population of half a billion. Enough is enough.
We have folks here in our blue strongholds that encourage illegals to break the law to come here, break the law to stay here, set up sanctuary cities so even if they break the law here they can stay here, and advocate open borders errrrrr a free flow of migrants but we are supposed to believe that
WE ARE DRAWING THE LINE AT YOU BREAKING THE LAW TO VOTE. THAT IS OUR RED LINE IN THE SAND.
Except the latest from the left is let them vote in local elections since they live her man
Sanctuary cities are by definition illegal. We should be arresting the mayors of these cities, and the governor of California, since it's now a 'sanctuary state.' If they still want to resist even after that, maybe its time to consider a military option.
We have folks here in our blue strongholds that encourage illegals to break the law to come here, break the law to stay here, set up sanctuary cities so even if they break the law here they can stay here, and advocate open borders errrrrr a free flow of migrants but we are supposed to believe that
WE ARE DRAWING THE LINE AT YOU BREAKING THE LAW TO VOTE. THAT IS OUR RED LINE IN THE SAND.
Except the latest from the left is let them vote in local elections since they live her man
Mainly to stick it to the leftists is what I want it for.
I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.
(It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)
However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.
Here in Cali they took the first steps to making it easier for "undocumented peoples" to vote by allowing them all to register for state ID's with no existing proof of identity.
As much as I think right now it's an overhyped problem by the right it's not at all hard to imagine how the Dems are drooling at the prospect of stuffing ballot boxes with illegals they can make worlds of promises to and never have to deliver on.
Isn't it odd that these same Dems don't want guest worker programs or to expand legal immigration? I can't for the life of me figure that out.
Are you really that dumb?
CA AB-60 had illegals lined up for blocks around the DMV's here when it passed. You might be technically correct that they need *some kind of ID but the requirements are paper thin and laughable. You could bring in a phone bill as proof of CA residency and ironically enough, a Mexican voter ID as your proof of ID.
You can claim, and I don't entirely disagree, that this is reasonable policy to improve driver safety etc. but it also has a certain smell to it from the same party that claims no person is illegal while also trying to deny it ever entertained the idea of "open borders".
For the record again, I'm for guest worker programs and/or expanding LEGAL immigration. By exponential numbers if necessary. Whatever it is though, I want it to be a LEGAL process. What I don't want is a de-facto immigration policy that leaves a large swathe of people in limbo and continuously held at the mercy of the state and the politicians in power.
Why do we need immigration expanded exponentially? Why do we need it expanded at all? We're getting close to a population of half a billion. Enough is enough.
Demographically speaking our entire economic system and many of our governmental entitlements are set up on the assumption of a growing population. Our birth rate has rapidly decreased but part of the reason our country hasn't felt the ill effects like Japan or Europe is because we make up for it with immigration.
It's a different but related discussion but we've also got the advantage of deciding who we want to take for what since living in the US is essentially a golden ticket. Need cheap seasonal labor? We can have that if we want. Need top scientist and researchers? We can have that if we want. Want only the most talented and brightest? We can have that if we want.
I also to some extent do agree with @CirrhosisDawg that the economics of it make it somewhat chinevitable that prohibition of immigration won't work. Might as well legalize and regulate the market rather than try to fight it.
Mainly to stick it to the leftists is what I want it for.
I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.
(It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)
However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.
Here in Cali they took the first steps to making it easier for "undocumented peoples" to vote by allowing them all to register for state ID's with no existing proof of identity.
As much as I think right now it's an overhyped problem by the right it's not at all hard to imagine how the Dems are drooling at the prospect of stuffing ballot boxes with illegals they can make worlds of promises to and never have to deliver on.
Isn't it odd that these same Dems don't want guest worker programs or to expand legal immigration? I can't for the life of me figure that out.
Are you really that dumb?
CA AB-60 had illegals lined up for blocks around the DMV's here when it passed. You might be technically correct that they need *some kind of ID but the requirements are paper thin and laughable. You could bring in a phone bill as proof of CA residency and ironically enough, a Mexican voter ID as your proof of ID.
You can claim, and I don't entirely disagree, that this is reasonable policy to improve driver safety etc. but it also has a certain smell to it from the same party that claims no person is illegal while also trying to deny it ever entertained the idea of "open borders".
For the record again, I'm for guest worker programs and/or expanding LEGAL immigration. By exponential numbers if necessary. Whatever it is though, I want it to be a LEGAL process. What I don't want is a de-facto immigration policy that leaves a large swathe of people in limbo and continuously held at the mercy of the state and the politicians in power.
Good discussion. But show me where one illegal alien has been registered to vote and actually voted in an election.
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HTF are we gonna pay for the 5 trillion of free Shit that you wish to give away per year?
I don't think illegal voting, illegal immigration, etc is a massive problem or a threat in any way.
(It is a problem, just something that wouldn't be all that difficult to change)
However the Democrats complete refusal to even acknowledge that it's a problem and needs to be reformed (and you are hitler) is so absurd that I want to stick it to them extra hard.
As much as I think right now it's an overhyped problem by the right it's not at all hard to imagine how the Dems are drooling at the prospect of stuffing ballot boxes with illegals they can make worlds of promises to and never have to deliver on.
Isn't it odd that these same Dems don't want guest worker programs or to expand legal immigration? I can't for the life of me figure that out.
You don’t want people voting in State county and local races for candidates that don’t even serve them and therefore aren’t eligible to vote for.
But you never thought that deep about it or you wouldn’t be posting like Hondo about it.
Why replace them?
Yeah all the bleeding hearts are morons and cry racism but the real people making the decisions don't give a fuck about that.
You can claim, and I don't entirely disagree, that this is reasonable policy to improve driver safety etc. but it also has a certain smell to it from the same party that claims no person is illegal while also trying to deny it ever entertained the idea of "open borders".
For the record again, I'm for guest worker programs and/or expanding LEGAL immigration. By exponential numbers if necessary. Whatever it is though, I want it to be a LEGAL process. What I don't want is a de-facto immigration policy that leaves a large swathe of people in limbo and continuously held at the mercy of the state and the politicians in power.
WE ARE DRAWING THE LINE AT YOU BREAKING THE LAW TO VOTE. THAT IS OUR RED LINE IN THE SAND.
Except the latest from the left is let them vote in local elections since they live her man
We aren't falling for the ruse
It's a different but related discussion but we've also got the advantage of deciding who we want to take for what since living in the US is essentially a golden ticket. Need cheap seasonal labor? We can have that if we want. Need top scientist and researchers? We can have that if we want. Want only the most talented and brightest? We can have that if we want.
I also to some extent do agree with @CirrhosisDawg that the economics of it make it somewhat chinevitable that prohibition of immigration won't work. Might as well legalize and regulate the market rather than try to fight it.