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  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,033
    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Term limits are fucking retarded. If somebody is good at their job, and the voters want them there enough to re-elect them, then so be it. Second-term presidents are lame ducks because members of Congress know they'll be there after he/she's out. Why make last-term congressmen lame ducks too? The threat/prospect of re-election is an important element of politics.

    We have regular elections. We can impose term limits on anybody whom we see as not up to the job, or there's somebody better. Competitive redistricting and campaign finance reform are much more effective ways of prompting legislators to behave better.

    Hmmm. So you think the ones that win Congressional elections are the most talented ones? Are you now a parody account too? You should know that both parties require their elected Congress people to spend about 20 hours per week on the phones fund raising for the party and their own re-election campaign. You should also know that most of the bills that Congress people present to the floor were drafted by lobbyists that represent the ones that answered their phone and sent the money to the party. A House member, especially, is a lame duck as soon as they are elected.

    Sad you don’t know how our legislative gears are greased.
    That must be why I advocate for campaign finance reform, so congressmen don't have to spend half their time raising money.

    You've been taking the stupid pills again, I see.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Term limits are fucking retarded. If somebody is good at their job, and the voters want them there enough to re-elect them, then so be it. Second-term presidents are lame ducks because members of Congress know they'll be there after he/she's out. Why make last-term congressmen lame ducks too? The threat/prospect of re-election is an important element of politics.

    We have regular elections. We can impose term limits on anybody whom we see as not up to the job, or there's somebody better. Competitive redistricting and campaign finance reform are much more effective ways of prompting legislators to behave better.

    Hmmm. So you think the ones that win Congressional elections are the most talented ones? Are you now a parody account too? You should know that both parties require their elected Congress people to spend about 20 hours per week on the phones fund raising for the party and their own re-election campaign. You should also know that most of the bills that Congress people present to the floor were drafted by lobbyists that represent the ones that answered their phone and sent the money to the party. A House member, especially, is a lame duck as soon as they are elected.

    Sad you don’t know how our legislative gears are greased.
    That must be why I advocate for campaign finance reform, so congressmen don't have to spend half their time raising money.

    You've been taking the stupid pills again, I see.
    Overturn citizens United and ending lobbying would be a start.
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233

    Sledog said:

    It's interesting how the socialists want to curb special interest money, but not their own power. Nah, not that. They need that to be unlimited for their agenda to work.

    You need the power to exterminate people that disagree with you. Millions of dead people can't be wrong.
    This movement is potentially closer to Nazism than these ignoramuses are probably aware of. Combining socialism with shit like 'racial justice' and 'white privilege,' radical elements of leftist thought, it would be a dictatorship of the 'oppressed victims' exacting their revenge on a country that was founded on racism and white privilege, according to the DSA socialists.
    You poor little fella.

    It seems like you find something to be outraged about daily. Like a social justice warrior.

    Except more of a pussy.
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,033
    edited July 2018
    2001400ex said:

    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Term limits are fucking retarded. If somebody is good at their job, and the voters want them there enough to re-elect them, then so be it. Second-term presidents are lame ducks because members of Congress know they'll be there after he/she's out. Why make last-term congressmen lame ducks too? The threat/prospect of re-election is an important element of politics.

    We have regular elections. We can impose term limits on anybody whom we see as not up to the job, or there's somebody better. Competitive redistricting and campaign finance reform are much more effective ways of prompting legislators to behave better.

    Hmmm. So you think the ones that win Congressional elections are the most talented ones? Are you now a parody account too? You should know that both parties require their elected Congress people to spend about 20 hours per week on the phones fund raising for the party and their own re-election campaign. You should also know that most of the bills that Congress people present to the floor were drafted by lobbyists that represent the ones that answered their phone and sent the money to the party. A House member, especially, is a lame duck as soon as they are elected.

    Sad you don’t know how our legislative gears are greased.
    That must be why I advocate for campaign finance reform, so congressmen don't have to spend half their time raising money.

    You've been taking the stupid pills again, I see.
    Overturn citizens United and ending lobbying would be a start.
    But it's only a start. Big-money interests have had undue influence on both legislation and elections for far longer than Citizens United. And not just at the federal level; one of the reasons that CA Gov. Gray Davis was so disliked (and ultimately recalled) was because he was seen to be in the pocket of public sector unions. You pretty much couldn't get an audience with him unless you brought a fat check made out to his re-election committee.

    You don't want to end lobbying. Lobbying is how interest groups of all sorts (teachers' unions as wells as Big Pharma or the NRA) make themselves be heard in the legislative process. You just want to cut the undue influence that they have by taking money out of the equation.
  • USMChawkUSMChawk Member Posts: 1,800
    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    It's interesting how the socialists want to curb special interest money, but not their own power. Nah, not that. They need that to be unlimited for their agenda to work.

    You need the power to exterminate people that disagree with you. Millions of dead people can't be wrong.
    This movement is potentially closer to Nazism than these ignoramuses are probably aware of. Combining socialism with shit like 'racial justice' and 'white privilege,' radical elements of leftist thought, it would be a dictatorship of the 'oppressed victims' exacting their revenge on a country that was founded on racism and white privilege, according to the DSA socialists.
    You poor little fella.

    It seems like you find something to be outraged about daily. Like a social justice warrior.

    Except more of a pussy.
    He’s not entirely wrong. The worst atrocities humans commit are when we? dehumanize the victims. Look at the rhetoric flying across the political aisles and tell me it couldn’t happen, again. It’s not some Illuminati plot, it’s human nature. Here’s a good read:

    https://www.npr.org/2011/03/29/134956180/criminals-see-their-victims-as-less-than-human
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233
    USMChawk said:

    dflea said:

    Sledog said:

    It's interesting how the socialists want to curb special interest money, but not their own power. Nah, not that. They need that to be unlimited for their agenda to work.

    You need the power to exterminate people that disagree with you. Millions of dead people can't be wrong.
    This movement is potentially closer to Nazism than these ignoramuses are probably aware of. Combining socialism with shit like 'racial justice' and 'white privilege,' radical elements of leftist thought, it would be a dictatorship of the 'oppressed victims' exacting their revenge on a country that was founded on racism and white privilege, according to the DSA socialists.
    You poor little fella.

    It seems like you find something to be outraged about daily. Like a social justice warrior.

    Except more of a pussy.
    He’s not entirely wrong. The worst atrocities humans commit are when we? dehumanize the victims. Look at the rhetoric flying across the political aisles and tell me it couldn’t happen, again. It’s not some Illuminati plot, it’s human nature. Here’s a good read:

    https://www.npr.org/2011/03/29/134956180/criminals-see-their-victims-as-less-than-human
    obk wrote the book on rhetoric, so you'll have to excuse me for not taking her seriously.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,779 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    2001400ex said:

    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Term limits are fucking retarded. If somebody is good at their job, and the voters want them there enough to re-elect them, then so be it. Second-term presidents are lame ducks because members of Congress know they'll be there after he/she's out. Why make last-term congressmen lame ducks too? The threat/prospect of re-election is an important element of politics.

    We have regular elections. We can impose term limits on anybody whom we see as not up to the job, or there's somebody better. Competitive redistricting and campaign finance reform are much more effective ways of prompting legislators to behave better.

    Hmmm. So you think the ones that win Congressional elections are the most talented ones? Are you now a parody account too? You should know that both parties require their elected Congress people to spend about 20 hours per week on the phones fund raising for the party and their own re-election campaign. You should also know that most of the bills that Congress people present to the floor were drafted by lobbyists that represent the ones that answered their phone and sent the money to the party. A House member, especially, is a lame duck as soon as they are elected.

    Sad you don’t know how our legislative gears are greased.
    That must be why I advocate for campaign finance reform, so congressmen don't have to spend half their time raising money.

    You've been taking the stupid pills again, I see.
    Overturn citizens United and ending lobbying would be a start.
    But it's only a start. Big-money interests have had undue influence on both legislation and elections for far longer than Citizens United. And not just at the federal level; one of the reasons that CA Gov. Gray Davis was so disliked (and ultimately recalled) was because he was seen to be in the pocket of public sector unions. You pretty much couldn't get an audience with him unless you brought a fat check made out to his re-election committee.

    You don't want to end lobbying. Lobbying is how interest groups of all sorts (teachers' unions as wells as Big Pharma or the NRA) make themselves be heard in the legislative process. You just want to cut the undue influence that they have by taking money out of the equation.
    Fair and balanced

    As in most things the partisans want to restrict the influence the opponent has

    The money is even these days on both sides. The idea of the poor struggling democrats trying to keep up with the GOP money machine is laughable
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,839 Standard Supporter
    BearsWiin said:

    2001400ex said:

    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Term limits are fucking retarded. If somebody is good at their job, and the voters want them there enough to re-elect them, then so be it. Second-term presidents are lame ducks because members of Congress know they'll be there after he/she's out. Why make last-term congressmen lame ducks too? The threat/prospect of re-election is an important element of politics.

    We have regular elections. We can impose term limits on anybody whom we see as not up to the job, or there's somebody better. Competitive redistricting and campaign finance reform are much more effective ways of prompting legislators to behave better.

    Hmmm. So you think the ones that win Congressional elections are the most talented ones? Are you now a parody account too? You should know that both parties require their elected Congress people to spend about 20 hours per week on the phones fund raising for the party and their own re-election campaign. You should also know that most of the bills that Congress people present to the floor were drafted by lobbyists that represent the ones that answered their phone and sent the money to the party. A House member, especially, is a lame duck as soon as they are elected.

    Sad you don’t know how our legislative gears are greased.
    That must be why I advocate for campaign finance reform, so congressmen don't have to spend half their time raising money.

    You've been taking the stupid pills again, I see.
    Overturn citizens United and ending lobbying would be a start.
    But it's only a start. Big-money interests have had undue influence on both legislation and elections for far longer than Citizens United. And not just at the federal level; one of the reasons that CA Gov. Gray Davis was so disliked (and ultimately recalled) was because he was seen to be in the pocket of public sector unions. You pretty much couldn't get an audience with him unless you brought a fat check made out to his re-election committee.

    You don't want to end lobbying. Lobbying is how interest groups of all sorts (teachers' unions as wells as Big Pharma or the NRA) make themselves be heard in the legislative process. You just want to cut the undue influence that they have by taking money out of the equation.
    If we are going to talk special interests we need to talk academia. The communists now occupy a large portion of the teaching jobs at all levels of education. How can a college not have one conservative professor? How are our educational institutions allowed to discriminate against conservative faculty, staff and students? The commies are using a generational approach to try and change us into a third world shit hole.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    BearsWiin said:

    2001400ex said:

    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Term limits are fucking retarded. If somebody is good at their job, and the voters want them there enough to re-elect them, then so be it. Second-term presidents are lame ducks because members of Congress know they'll be there after he/she's out. Why make last-term congressmen lame ducks too? The threat/prospect of re-election is an important element of politics.

    We have regular elections. We can impose term limits on anybody whom we see as not up to the job, or there's somebody better. Competitive redistricting and campaign finance reform are much more effective ways of prompting legislators to behave better.

    Hmmm. So you think the ones that win Congressional elections are the most talented ones? Are you now a parody account too? You should know that both parties require their elected Congress people to spend about 20 hours per week on the phones fund raising for the party and their own re-election campaign. You should also know that most of the bills that Congress people present to the floor were drafted by lobbyists that represent the ones that answered their phone and sent the money to the party. A House member, especially, is a lame duck as soon as they are elected.

    Sad you don’t know how our legislative gears are greased.
    That must be why I advocate for campaign finance reform, so congressmen don't have to spend half their time raising money.

    You've been taking the stupid pills again, I see.
    Overturn citizens United and ending lobbying would be a start.
    But it's only a start. Big-money interests have had undue influence on both legislation and elections for far longer than Citizens United. And not just at the federal level; one of the reasons that CA Gov. Gray Davis was so disliked (and ultimately recalled) was because he was seen to be in the pocket of public sector unions. You pretty much couldn't get an audience with him unless you brought a fat check made out to his re-election committee.

    You don't want to end lobbying. Lobbying is how interest groups of all sorts (teachers' unions as wells as Big Pharma or the NRA) make themselves be heard in the legislative process. You just want to cut the undue influence that they have by taking money out of the equation.
    Yes that's what I meant. There needs to be a lobbying feature to get all voices heard. Just need money out of it. This was 1992. And nothing has changed.

    https://youtu.be/wuiCiwpjuh4
  • SquirtSquirt Member Posts: 485

    This movement is potentially closer to Nazism than these ignoramuses are probably aware of. Combining socialism with shit like 'racial justice' and 'white privilege,' radical elements of leftist thought, it would be a dictatorship of the 'oppressed victims' exacting their revenge on a country that was founded on racism and white privilege, according to the DSA socialists.

    Fuck, this OBK fellow is on to me and my comrades. BRB, gotta go warn party officials.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Term limits are fucking retarded. If somebody is good at their job, and the voters want them there enough to re-elect them, then so be it. Second-term presidents are lame ducks because members of Congress know they'll be there after he/she's out. Why make last-term congressmen lame ducks too? The threat/prospect of re-election is an important element of politics.

    We have regular elections. We can impose term limits on anybody whom we see as not up to the job, or there's somebody better. Competitive redistricting and campaign finance reform are much more effective ways of prompting legislators to behave better.

    Hmmm. So you think the ones that win Congressional elections are the most talented ones? Are you now a parody account too? You should know that both parties require their elected Congress people to spend about 20 hours per week on the phones fund raising for the party and their own re-election campaign. You should also know that most of the bills that Congress people present to the floor were drafted by lobbyists that represent the ones that answered their phone and sent the money to the party. A House member, especially, is a lame duck as soon as they are elected.

    Sad you don’t know how our legislative gears are greased.
    That must be why I advocate for campaign finance reform, so congressmen don't have to spend half their time raising money.

    You've been taking the stupid pills again, I see.
    That ship sailed comprande,

    I don’t like it anymore than you do, But that’s what we have to face.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    ^^^^ Compadre.




    FYFMFE.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,151 Standard Supporter
    salemcoog said:

    ^^^^ Compadre.




    FYFMFE.

    You can’t spell compadre without comrade.
  • USMChawkUSMChawk Member Posts: 1,800

    salemcoog said:

    ^^^^ Compadre.




    FYFMFE.

    You can’t spell compadre without comrade.
    You can’t spell Democrat without comrade.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,889 Founders Club

    Another stellar HondoFS poast...you will see why in a second.

    A pertinent quote in the middle of it all..."if you don't pay attention to how they are going to pay for it or the rest of that..."

    Her article that sparked it all...a much less flattering description of the event that basically says she sees how the HondoFSs of the world fall for it all. And here comes the man (?) himself on queue to prove her point...
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/23/conservative-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-rally/

    On a side note HondoFS...there is a much better twitter handle to follow if you want to follow her...







    And the funniest news story of her today...

    This is fake right?
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949
    USMChawk said:

    salemcoog said:

    ^^^^ Compadre.




    FYFMFE.

    You can’t spell compadre without comrade.
    You can’t spell Democrat without comrade.
    Uhhh
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,033

    USMChawk said:

    salemcoog said:

    ^^^^ Compadre.




    FYFMFE.

    You can’t spell compadre without comrade.
    You can’t spell Democrat without comrade.
    Uhhh

  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949
    BearsWiin said:

    USMChawk said:

    salemcoog said:

    ^^^^ Compadre.




    FYFMFE.

    You can’t spell compadre without comrade.
    You can’t spell Democrat without comrade.
    Uhhh

    I always tried to be Eric stratton


    My name also happens to be the same. And I oddly kind of resemble him.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,151 Standard Supporter

    BearsWiin said:

    USMChawk said:

    salemcoog said:

    ^^^^ Compadre.




    FYFMFE.

    You can’t spell compadre without comrade.
    You can’t spell Democrat without comrade.
    Uhhh

    I always tried to be Eric stratton


    My name also happens to be the same. And I oddly kind of resemble him.
    Pics of Fawn Lebowitz’s tittays or GTFO
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    Another stellar HondoFS poast...you will see why in a second.

    A pertinent quote in the middle of it all..."if you don't pay attention to how they are going to pay for it or the rest of that..."

    Her article that sparked it all...a much less flattering description of the event that basically says she sees how the HondoFSs of the world fall for it all. And here comes the man (?) himself on queue to prove her point...
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/23/conservative-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-rally/

    On a side note HondoFS...there is a much better twitter handle to follow if you want to follow her...







    And the funniest news story of her today...

    This is fake right?
    Nope. 100% REAL.
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