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Black Americans don't want to abolish ICE

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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Posts: 16,715
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    Swaye said:

    Squirt said:

    Now, I think Charlie Kirk is FS, and I don't think he's right about Obama's immigration practices. But I still watched this video because I eat up these videos of Trump supporters, and I should take some of my own medicine.



    JFC, selective edits or not, my comrades are embarrassing me.

    I enjoy watching stupid liberals more than stupid conservatives. You can go to any small town Wal Mart and see piles of stupid conservatives, but the difference is they know they are stupid. Nothing is as funny as seeing all these college educated leftists who think they are brilliant get befuddled at the simplest of questions. They have no idea why they are really there, it's just "Trump is terrible so I need to DO SOMETHING!"
    I'm pretty sure the people who say Mexicans are flooding into this country, living on $2,000 a month from the government and going to be collecting social security are also just as stupid.
    RaceBannonSledogMikeDamoneSoutherndawgCuntWaffleSquirt
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Posts: 9,682
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    The problem with illegals is that to get jobs that everify they use a fake social.

    They all do.

    And that's super horrible.


    So if you support illegals paying taxes you support identity theft. There is no gray area there.


    So I've been trying to hire and I'll obviously do everify and I know for a fucking fact they are illegal. But their shit checks out.

    It's why this whole idea from the left that they need to bust business owners that hire illegals is totally laughable.

    If I said no I think you're illegal I'd be sued.
    oregonblitzkrieg
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Posts: 9,331
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    The problem with illegals is that to get jobs that everify they use a fake social.

    They all do.

    And that's super horrible.


    So if you support illegals paying taxes you support identity theft. There is no gray area there.


    So I've been trying to hire and I'll obviously do everify and I know for a fucking fact they are illegal. But their shit checks out.

    It's why this whole idea from the left that they need to bust business owners that hire illegals is totally laughable.

    If I said no I think you're illegal I'd be sued.

    Milton Friedman once commented that illegal immigration was the best kind of immigration- i.e., you get the benefit of the cheap labor and the paying of taxes to fake SS#'s but then the guvmint doesn't have to pay out the benefits.
    MikeDamoneRedRocket
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Posts: 9,682
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    The problem with illegals is that to get jobs that everify they use a fake social.

    They all do.

    And that's super horrible.


    So if you support illegals paying taxes you support identity theft. There is no gray area there.


    So I've been trying to hire and I'll obviously do everify and I know for a fucking fact they are illegal. But their shit checks out.

    It's why this whole idea from the left that they need to bust business owners that hire illegals is totally laughable.

    If I said no I think you're illegal I'd be sued.

    Milton Friedman once commented that illegal immigration was the best kind of immigration- i.e., you get the benefit of the cheap labor and the paying of taxes to fake SS#'s but then the guvmint doesn't have to pay out the benefits.
    Except it's 16 an hour

    Thats the market though.

    It's just that the left has this idea that anyone that employs illegals is evil.

    It's simply untrue.


    That being said there are legit shithole businesses that know and use the fuck out of them for low wage and pay under the table.

    That absolute needs to be shut down.
  • salemcoogsalemcoog Posts: 8,715
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    The problem with illegals is that to get jobs that everify they use a fake social.

    They all do.

    And that's super horrible.


    So if you support illegals paying taxes you support identity theft. There is no gray area there.


    So I've been trying to hire and I'll obviously do everify and I know for a fucking fact they are illegal. But their shit checks out.

    It's why this whole idea from the left that they need to bust business owners that hire illegals is totally laughable.

    If I said no I think you're illegal I'd be sued.

    Milton Friedman once commented that illegal immigration was the best kind of immigration- i.e., you get the benefit of the cheap labor and the paying of taxes to fake SS#'s but then the guvmint doesn't have to pay out the benefits.
    And there is some validity to this and is battle cry of the left to open the gates. And they use it to fluff their numbers of illegals being a net positive. But it’s when they start having kids is when the real costs come. Even left leaning sources said that about 80 Billion in benefits were paid out to anchor babes in 2013. 5 years later it’s easy to see that number hitting 100 Bill per year.
    YellowSnoworegonblitzkrieg
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Posts: 2,287
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    salemcoog said:

    The problem with illegals is that to get jobs that everify they use a fake social.

    They all do.

    And that's super horrible.


    So if you support illegals paying taxes you support identity theft. There is no gray area there.


    So I've been trying to hire and I'll obviously do everify and I know for a fucking fact they are illegal. But their shit checks out.

    It's why this whole idea from the left that they need to bust business owners that hire illegals is totally laughable.

    If I said no I think you're illegal I'd be sued.

    Milton Friedman once commented that illegal immigration was the best kind of immigration- i.e., you get the benefit of the cheap labor and the paying of taxes to fake SS#'s but then the guvmint doesn't have to pay out the benefits.
    And there is some validity to this and is battle cry of the left to open the gates. And they use it to fluff their numbers of illegals being a net positive. But it’s when they start having kids is when the real costs come. Even left leaning sources said that about 80 Billion in benefits were paid out to anchor babes in 2013. 5 years later it’s easy to see that number hitting 100 Bill per year.
    California’s Sanctuary State laws have been upheld by a federal judge (GWB appointee). Your job and @89ute ‘s kids voting power are shitcanned.

    Comprehensive reform, with path to citizenship and guest worker programs, could address many of the ancillary issues. Or you will be forced to accept the status quo. You decide. I’m fine either way.
    oregonblitzkrieg
  • salemcoogsalemcoog Posts: 8,715
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    salemcoog said:

    The problem with illegals is that to get jobs that everify they use a fake social.

    They all do.

    And that's super horrible.


    So if you support illegals paying taxes you support identity theft. There is no gray area there.


    So I've been trying to hire and I'll obviously do everify and I know for a fucking fact they are illegal. But their shit checks out.

    It's why this whole idea from the left that they need to bust business owners that hire illegals is totally laughable.

    If I said no I think you're illegal I'd be sued.

    Milton Friedman once commented that illegal immigration was the best kind of immigration- i.e., you get the benefit of the cheap labor and the paying of taxes to fake SS#'s but then the guvmint doesn't have to pay out the benefits.
    And there is some validity to this and is battle cry of the left to open the gates. And they use it to fluff their numbers of illegals being a net positive. But it’s when they start having kids is when the real costs come. Even left leaning sources said that about 80 Billion in benefits were paid out to anchor babes in 2013. 5 years later it’s easy to see that number hitting 100 Bill per year.
    California’s Sanctuary State laws have been upheld by a federal judge (GWB appointee). Your job and @89ute ‘s kids voting power are shitcanned.

    Comprehensive reform, with path to citizenship and guest worker programs, could address many of the ancillary issues. Or you will be forced to accept the status quo. You decide. I’m fine either way.
    It’s going on the ballot here in Oregon to abolish SC status. It’s a States rights issue. And I’ve always supported an amnesty solution. Oregon has a guest worker agreement already that has been more or less on the pay no mind list due to the SC status.

    you can’t have all 3. If you do amnesty, you can’t have SC’s.
    CirrhosisDawg
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Posts: 2,287
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    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    The problem with illegals is that to get jobs that everify they use a fake social.

    They all do.

    And that's super horrible.


    So if you support illegals paying taxes you support identity theft. There is no gray area there.


    So I've been trying to hire and I'll obviously do everify and I know for a fucking fact they are illegal. But their shit checks out.

    It's why this whole idea from the left that they need to bust business owners that hire illegals is totally laughable.

    If I said no I think you're illegal I'd be sued.

    Milton Friedman once commented that illegal immigration was the best kind of immigration- i.e., you get the benefit of the cheap labor and the paying of taxes to fake SS#'s but then the guvmint doesn't have to pay out the benefits.
    And there is some validity to this and is battle cry of the left to open the gates. And they use it to fluff their numbers of illegals being a net positive. But it’s when they start having kids is when the real costs come. Even left leaning sources said that about 80 Billion in benefits were paid out to anchor babes in 2013. 5 years later it’s easy to see that number hitting 100 Bill per year.
    California’s Sanctuary State laws have been upheld by a federal judge (GWB appointee). Your job and @89ute ‘s kids voting power are shitcanned.

    Comprehensive reform, with path to citizenship and guest worker programs, could address many of the ancillary issues. Or you will be forced to accept the status quo. You decide. I’m fine either way.
    It’s going on the ballot here in Oregon to abolish SC status. It’s a States rights issue. And I’ve always supported an amnesty solution. Oregon has a guest worker agreement already that has been more or less on the pay no mind list due to the SC status.

    you can’t have all 3. If you do amnesty, you can’t have SC’s.
    The laws upheld by the federal court were state laws — passed by the Republic of California. States are sovereign. You get comprehensive reform or you get nothing.
  • salemcoogsalemcoog Posts: 8,715
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    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    The problem with illegals is that to get jobs that everify they use a fake social.

    They all do.

    And that's super horrible.


    So if you support illegals paying taxes you support identity theft. There is no gray area there.


    So I've been trying to hire and I'll obviously do everify and I know for a fucking fact they are illegal. But their shit checks out.

    It's why this whole idea from the left that they need to bust business owners that hire illegals is totally laughable.

    If I said no I think you're illegal I'd be sued.

    Milton Friedman once commented that illegal immigration was the best kind of immigration- i.e., you get the benefit of the cheap labor and the paying of taxes to fake SS#'s but then the guvmint doesn't have to pay out the benefits.
    And there is some validity to this and is battle cry of the left to open the gates. And they use it to fluff their numbers of illegals being a net positive. But it’s when they start having kids is when the real costs come. Even left leaning sources said that about 80 Billion in benefits were paid out to anchor babes in 2013. 5 years later it’s easy to see that number hitting 100 Bill per year.
    California’s Sanctuary State laws have been upheld by a federal judge (GWB appointee). Your job and @89ute ‘s kids voting power are shitcanned.

    Comprehensive reform, with path to citizenship and guest worker programs, could address many of the ancillary issues. Or you will be forced to accept the status quo. You decide. I’m fine either way.
    It’s going on the ballot here in Oregon to abolish SC status. It’s a States rights issue. And I’ve always supported an amnesty solution. Oregon has a guest worker agreement already that has been more or less on the pay no mind list due to the SC status.

    you can’t have all 3. If you do amnesty, you can’t have SC’s.
    The laws upheld by the federal court were state laws — passed by the Republic of California. States are sovereign. You get comprehensive reform or you get nothing.
    I don’t disagree with this. But wouldn’t you agree that amnesty without enforcement is a bit of a sham?
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Posts: 2,287
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    Yes, I agree with that. Comprehensive reform will result in a political agreement and consensus about immigration law that can actually be enforced. Sanctuary laws would be obsolete. Current law is not enforceable. No matter how hard trump and his supporters insist on it,
    salemcoog
  • SledogSledog Posts: 6,140
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    Yes, I agree with that. Comprehensive reform will result in a political agreement and consensus about immigration law that can actually be enforced. Sanctuary laws would be obsolete. Current law is not enforceable. No matter how hard trump and his supporters insist on it,

    Democrats want votes or they wouldn't be protecting illegals from prosecution and deportation and they wouldn't be registering them to vote. Simple as that. The ends justify the means.
    oregonblitzkrieg
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Posts: 10,799
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    edited July 10

    The problem with illegals is that to get jobs that everify they use a fake social.

    They all do.

    And that's super horrible.


    So if you support illegals paying taxes you support identity theft. There is no gray area there.


    So I've been trying to hire and I'll obviously do everify and I know for a fucking fact they are illegal. But their shit checks out.

    It's why this whole idea from the left that they need to bust business owners that hire illegals is totally laughable.

    If I said no I think you're illegal I'd be sued.

    Milton Friedman once commented that illegal immigration was the best kind of immigration- i.e., you get the benefit of the cheap labor and the paying of taxes to fake SS#'s but then the guvmint doesn't have to pay out the benefits.
    He said it’s the best kind in the absence of the welfare state. Need to complete your quote there.

    GrundleStiltzkinYellowSnowSoutherndawg
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Posts: 2,287
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    Sledog said:

    Yes, I agree with that. Comprehensive reform will result in a political agreement and consensus about immigration law that can actually be enforced. Sanctuary laws would be obsolete. Current law is not enforceable. No matter how hard trump and his supporters insist on it,

    Democrats want votes or they wouldn't be protecting illegals from prosecution and deportation and they wouldn't be registering them to vote. Simple as that. The ends justify the means.
    The illegals hate unions (Cesar Chavez’s UFW is an abject failure), abhor abortion, are highly independent, religious and hard-working.

    No wonder trump’s gop has gifted them to the Democrats. WTGWT.
    GrundleStiltzkin
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Posts: 9,331
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    The problem with illegals is that to get jobs that everify they use a fake social.

    They all do.

    And that's super horrible.


    So if you support illegals paying taxes you support identity theft. There is no gray area there.


    So I've been trying to hire and I'll obviously do everify and I know for a fucking fact they are illegal. But their shit checks out.

    It's why this whole idea from the left that they need to bust business owners that hire illegals is totally laughable.

    If I said no I think you're illegal I'd be sued.

    Milton Friedman once commented that illegal immigration was the best kind of immigration- i.e., you get the benefit of the cheap labor and the paying of taxes to fake SS#'s but then the guvmint doesn't have to pay out the benefits.
    He said it’s the best kind in the absence of the welfare state. Need to complete your quote there.

    Exactly. When those words were carved into the Statue of Liberty there was no welfare state.
  • SledogSledog Posts: 6,140
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    Sledog said:

    Yes, I agree with that. Comprehensive reform will result in a political agreement and consensus about immigration law that can actually be enforced. Sanctuary laws would be obsolete. Current law is not enforceable. No matter how hard trump and his supporters insist on it,

    Democrats want votes or they wouldn't be protecting illegals from prosecution and deportation and they wouldn't be registering them to vote. Simple as that. The ends justify the means.
    The illegals hate unions (Cesar Chavez’s UFW is an abject failure), abhor abortion, are highly independent, religious and hard-working.

    No wonder trump’s gop has gifted them to the Democrats. WTGWT.
    Load up the buses! Next stop Tijuana! Or we can collect all the illegals from the other states and drop them in Cali. Best idea I've had in a while!
  • TurdBufferTurdBuffer Posts: 5,026
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    How did we get here?



    Commies, I tell ya! Goddamn'd, No-Good Commies! Same as always.
    SoutherndawgPurpleThrobber
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Posts: 9,682
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    I just sat outside a jack and a box for like an hour because I was so drunk and couldn't figure out how to get home.


    Got a handy from a bartender in an uber
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Posts: 32,829
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    Sledog said:

    Yes, I agree with that. Comprehensive reform will result in a political agreement and consensus about immigration law that can actually be enforced. Sanctuary laws would be obsolete. Current law is not enforceable. No matter how hard trump and his supporters insist on it,

    Democrats want votes or they wouldn't be protecting illegals from prosecution and deportation and they wouldn't be registering them to vote. Simple as that. The ends justify the means.
    The illegals hate unions (Cesar Chavez’s UFW is an abject failure), abhor abortion, are highly independent, religious and hard-working.

    No wonder trump’s gop has gifted them to the Democrats. WTGWT.
    Chavez hated illegals

    I'm sticking with the union
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Posts: 5,257
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    How did we get here?



    Commies, I tell ya! Goddamn'd, No-Good Commies! Same as always.

    Former KGB Agent IRYK. Nailed it.
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