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Black Americans don't want to abolish ICE

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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Why is immigration reform laws never on the damn table lol

    Enforce! Don't enforce!

    Change the fucking law

    Does Congress actually do anything?

    No.
  • USMChawkUSMChawk Member Posts: 1,800
    2001400ex said:

    Why is immigration reform laws never on the damn table lol

    Enforce! Don't enforce!

    Change the fucking law

    Does Congress actually do anything?

    No.
    Agreed.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949
    I've been beating the heat at the DMV for the past 3 hours. Good times.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,839 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

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    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

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    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

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    2001400ex said:

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    2001400ex said:

    So apparently black Americans are even more raysiss than white Americans when it comes to immigration policy. @RaceBannon true?

    But the times, to coin a phrase, they are a changin’. Democrats who believe that they have a permanent hold on the African-American vote should take a look at how these voters view their position on immigration. A recent Harvard-Harris survey found that African-Americans are the racial group most opposed to unlimited immigration. Whereas 79 percent of whites want to prioritize legal immigrants based on what they can contribute to our society, fully 85 percent of African-Americans hold that view. A party that advocates open borders and the abolition of ICE is going to get fewer and fewer of their votes.

    https://spectator.org/the-next-american-revolution-walkaway/

    What party is that exactly?
    The "Party of the People"

    Use critical thinking. The abolish ICE thing is dumb and most Americans, like you, aren't smart enough to understand what they are saying. That being said, no politician is advocating, or wanting to, have open borders.
    Yes they are


    Just because it is political suicide doesn't make it not so

    The old Americans are too stupid to understand the brilliance of the democrats bullshit being trotted out here

    Americans are too smart to buy the shit

    If you don't want border enforcement you want open borders

    Period fucking end of story
    You still haven't produced one link saying they want open borders. Other than conservative bullshit
    Keith Ellison, the Deputy Chair of the DNC, was photographed wearing a shirt that translates to “I Don’t Believe in Borders”.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/25/keith-ellison-poses-with-stolen-land-sign/
    Using your logic, all of Fox news are white supremacists.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/395650-guilflyle-photographed-with-pizzagate-conspiracy-theorist?amp
    My logic? You asked for one link and I provided it. Now you’re just deflecting.
    Your link is fucktarded.

    HTH
    As I constantly have to ‘click to reveal’ your downvoted posts, Occam’s Razor infers that it’s you that’s fucktarded.
    Derek and his minions are right wing, Fox news, dicksuckers. While some are college educated, most, like you, can't think for themselves.

    No one of any influence in the legislative process wants open borders. But your news source tells you they do so you believe it.



    Yet you can't find any Democrat in Congress who wants open borders.
    Keith Ellison. Still a Congressman. Still a Democrat.

    You found that he supposedly wore a t-shirt saying that.
    Your dream girl does.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/8/hillary-clinton-dreams-open-borders-leaked-speech-/
    Great job taking a quote out of context. Dumbfuck.
    Great mansplaining as always.
    She is talking about the economy. It's the same thing when someone says about a professional services firm that we "have an office without walls." That doesn't mean anyone can work at the firm, there are still qualifications necessary to be employed. But people have the freedom to do thier business where they want.

    She's talking about a global approach without tariffs and such, businesses free to do business where they want. You can disagree with that point. As I don't agree we should have a 100% free global market. But I also don't agree with tariffs and stuff that Trump is implementing.
    And you don't mind tariffs on American products by other countries. We know you hate America, please tells us something we don't know.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    I've been beating the meat at the DMV for the past 3 hours. Good tims.

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,783 Founders Club

    A Federal judge denied trump’s effort to halt California Sanctuary State laws yesterday. There’s zero tolerance for trump’s bullshit here. Good luck with your “enforcement.”

    Thanks for having my back
    I’ve got your back today if you need it. Drink plenty of fluids, use sunscreen and limit outdoor activity if you can. How’s that?

    Temperature in Pasadena right now is 113. Can only imagine what Riverside is like.
    We hit 113 as well. Was supposed to go to 118 but didn't get there
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,151 Standard Supporter
    A comfortable 81 degrees at the guns and religion compound. Too cold for the illegals to invade.



  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233

    A Federal judge denied trump’s effort to halt California Sanctuary State laws yesterday. There’s zero tolerance for trump’s bullshit here. Good luck with your “enforcement.”

    Thanks for having my back
    I’ve got your back today if you need it. Drink plenty of fluids, use sunscreen and limit outdoor activity if you can. How’s that?

    Temperature in Pasadena right now is 113. Can only imagine what Riverside is like.
    We hit 113 as well. Was supposed to go to 118 but didn't get there
    Not zesty.

  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949
    I go from air conditioning to air conditioning


    Nothing's changed with me
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233

    I go from air conditioning to air conditioning


    Nothing's changed with me

    I go outside and catch steelhead. Not a fan of triple digit temps. Or anything over 80 really.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949
    edited July 2018
    dflea said:

    I go from air conditioning to air conditioning


    Nothing's changed with me

    I go outside and catch steelhead. Not a fan of triple digit temps. Or anything over 80 really.
    Sad!!
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    edited July 2018

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp


    Abolishing ICE is extreme. Right now. Because none of you dumb fucks pay attention. “We absolutely do need to make sure that our borders are secure”. That quote is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The extreme leftist that wants open borders. It’s not abolish ice and have open borders. It’s abolish ice and replace it with something better.

    Abolish ice has low poll numbers but so does ice with just 37% of Americans having a favorable view of it. Just like everything I listed above started with bad poll numbers abolish ice, once people hear what the plan is instead of the propaganda, will rise.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b3a3916e4b08c3a8f6c803d


    Keep telling me about how extreme views held by half the country or more are. How we’ll never win in the Midwest even though Bernie spanked Hillary in the Midwest (sorry for the mental image). Keep telling me progressives can’t win when we Richard Ojeda leading in polls as a progressive running for senate is West Fucking Virginia. Keep up the lies, buy into the propaganda, because in the end you’re only fooling yourselves.
    Your poles aren’t worth the effort to click the links. Because the lazy fucks that they get to participate in these polls are the ones that don’t want to work and want everything for free. And thankfully they don’t bother to vote.

    But it’s gonna be different this time though, right?

    People have had enough!!!, right?

    Giving Hondo a run for stupid on this board isn’t a good look.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter

    dflea said:

    I go from air conditioning to air conditioning


    Nothing's changed with me

    I go outside and catch steelhead. Not a fan of triple digit temps. Or anything over 80 really.
    Sad!!
    Check your Mexican privilege.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp


    Abolishing ICE is extreme. Right now. Because none of you dumb fucks pay attention. “We absolutely do need to make sure that our borders are secure”. That quote is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The extreme leftist that wants open borders. It’s not abolish ice and have open borders. It’s abolish ice and replace it with something better.

    Abolish ice has low poll numbers but so does ice with just 37% of Americans having a favorable view of it. Just like everything I listed above started with bad poll numbers abolish ice, once people hear what the plan is instead of the propaganda, will rise.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b3a3916e4b08c3a8f6c803d


    Keep telling me about how extreme views held by half the country or more are. How we’ll never win in the Midwest even though Bernie spanked Hillary in the Midwest (sorry for the mental image). Keep telling me progressives can’t win when we Richard Ojeda leading in polls as a progressive running for senate is West Fucking Virginia. Keep up the lies, buy into the propaganda, because in the end you’re only fooling yourselves.
    This is why I support @allpurpleallgold regardless of agreement or not

    Dude is not afraid to get out there and say it. I would prefer our elections be run this way so we can settle these things with out dog whistles and winks and nods and shit. Say what you will do then try to do it. That is what Trump is doing

    Having said that I think that saying we just want to replace ICE with something better is disingenuous. Open borders are a real thing among the left. And they are extremely unpopular among Americans

    I support the war I just don't support the troops kind of thing
    Every Dad that has an idealistic, borderline autistic son loves them for their try hard and the fact that they really do care.

    While you aren’t probably related, that’s what’s goin on here.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,783 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp


    Abolishing ICE is extreme. Right now. Because none of you dumb fucks pay attention. “We absolutely do need to make sure that our borders are secure”. That quote is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The extreme leftist that wants open borders. It’s not abolish ice and have open borders. It’s abolish ice and replace it with something better.

    Abolish ice has low poll numbers but so does ice with just 37% of Americans having a favorable view of it. Just like everything I listed above started with bad poll numbers abolish ice, once people hear what the plan is instead of the propaganda, will rise.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b3a3916e4b08c3a8f6c803d


    Keep telling me about how extreme views held by half the country or more are. How we’ll never win in the Midwest even though Bernie spanked Hillary in the Midwest (sorry for the mental image). Keep telling me progressives can’t win when we Richard Ojeda leading in polls as a progressive running for senate is West Fucking Virginia. Keep up the lies, buy into the propaganda, because in the end you’re only fooling yourselves.
    This is why I support @allpurpleallgold regardless of agreement or not

    Dude is not afraid to get out there and say it. I would prefer our elections be run this way so we can settle these things with out dog whistles and winks and nods and shit. Say what you will do then try to do it. That is what Trump is doing

    Having said that I think that saying we just want to replace ICE with something better is disingenuous. Open borders are a real thing among the left. And they are extremely unpopular among Americans

    I support the war I just don't support the troops kind of thing
    Every Dad that has an idealistic, borderline autistic son loves them for their try hard and the fact that they really do care.

    While you aren’t probably related, that’s what’s goin on here.

    And you would be the son we set adrift on the tide *gurgle*
  • KkkliffKkklingsburyKkkliffKkklingsbury Member Posts: 151
    Squirt said:

    Now, I think Charlie Kirk is FS, and I don't think he's right about Obama's immigration practices. But I still watched this video because I eat up these videos of Trump supporters, and I should take some of my own medicine.



    JFC, selective edits or not, my comrades are embarrassing me.


    Not in the same class of the ass I usually pull but there's just something about a bitch than can spell.

    WOOD
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    Squirt said:

    Now, I think Charlie Kirk is FS, and I don't think he's right about Obama's immigration practices. But I still watched this video because I eat up these videos of Trump supporters, and I should take some of my own medicine.



    JFC, selective edits or not, my comrades are embarrassing me.
    Keep looking, that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

    #walkaway.
  • LeachNeedsMoreTimLeachNeedsMoreTim Member Posts: 190

    Squirt said:

    Now, I think Charlie Kirk is FS, and I don't think he's right about Obama's immigration practices. But I still watched this video because I eat up these videos of Trump supporters, and I should take some of my own medicine.



    JFC, selective edits or not, my comrades are embarrassing me.


    Not in the same class of the ass I usually pull but there's just something about a bitch than can spell.

    WOOD
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