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  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    2001400ex said:

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    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp


    Abolishing ICE is extreme. Right now. Because none of you dumb fucks pay attention. “We absolutely do need to make sure that our borders are secure”. That quote is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The extreme leftist that wants open borders. It’s not abolish ice and have open borders. It’s abolish ice and replace it with something better.

    Abolish ice has low poll numbers but so does ice with just 37% of Americans having a favorable view of it. Just like everything I listed above started with bad poll numbers abolish ice, once people hear what the plan is instead of the propaganda, will rise.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b3a3916e4b08c3a8f6c803d


    Keep telling me about how extreme views held by half the country or more are. How we’ll never win in the Midwest even though Bernie spanked Hillary in the Midwest (sorry for the mental image). Keep telling me progressives can’t win when we Richard Ojeda leading in polls as a progressive running for senate is West Fucking Virginia. Keep up the lies, buy into the propaganda, because in the end you’re only fooling yourselves.
    I took a pole. Turned out 81% of Americans support not working but be given a lifestyle of a billionaire. With support like that how could it be considered extreme?</blockquote

    If you can provide evidence that you conducted this poll I’ll address it. Otherwise, I don’t deal in hypotheticals.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp


    Abolishing ICE is extreme. Right now. Because none of you dumb fucks pay attention. “We absolutely do need to make sure that our borders are secure”. That quote is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The extreme leftist that wants open borders. It’s not abolish ice and have open borders. It’s abolish ice and replace it with something better.

    Abolish ice has low poll numbers but so does ice with just 37% of Americans having a favorable view of it. Just like everything I listed above started with bad poll numbers abolish ice, once people hear what the plan is instead of the propaganda, will rise.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b3a3916e4b08c3a8f6c803d


    Keep telling me about how extreme views held by half the country or more are. How we’ll never win in the Midwest even though Bernie spanked Hillary in the Midwest (sorry for the mental image). Keep telling me progressives can’t win when we Richard Ojeda leading in polls as a progressive running for senate is West Fucking Virginia. Keep up the lies, buy into the propaganda, because in the end you’re only fooling yourselves.
    I took a pole. Turned out 81% of Americans support not working but be given a lifestyle of a billionaire. With support like that how could it be considered extreme?
    It’s actually, the same poles you quoted. The question is “if you were given a lot of stuff that you didn’t have to work for, would you like that”?
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Sledog said:

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    So apparently black Americans are even more raysiss than white Americans when it comes to immigration policy. @RaceBannon true?

    But the times, to coin a phrase, they are a changin’. Democrats who believe that they have a permanent hold on the African-American vote should take a look at how these voters view their position on immigration. A recent Harvard-Harris survey found that African-Americans are the racial group most opposed to unlimited immigration. Whereas 79 percent of whites want to prioritize legal immigrants based on what they can contribute to our society, fully 85 percent of African-Americans hold that view. A party that advocates open borders and the abolition of ICE is going to get fewer and fewer of their votes.

    https://spectator.org/the-next-american-revolution-walkaway/

    What party is that exactly?
    The "Party of the People"

    Use critical thinking. The abolish ICE thing is dumb and most Americans, like you, aren't smart enough to understand what they are saying. That being said, no politician is advocating, or wanting to, have open borders.
    Yes they are


    Just because it is political suicide doesn't make it not so

    The old Americans are too stupid to understand the brilliance of the democrats bullshit being trotted out here

    Americans are too smart to buy the shit

    If you don't want border enforcement you want open borders

    Period fucking end of story
    You still haven't produced one link saying they want open borders. Other than conservative bullshit
    Keith Ellison, the Deputy Chair of the DNC, was photographed wearing a shirt that translates to “I Don’t Believe in Borders”.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/25/keith-ellison-poses-with-stolen-land-sign/
    Using your logic, all of Fox news are white supremacists.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/395650-guilflyle-photographed-with-pizzagate-conspiracy-theorist?amp
    My logic? You asked for one link and I provided it. Now you’re just deflecting.
    Your link is fucktarded.

    HTH
    As I constantly have to ‘click to reveal’ your downvoted posts, Occam’s Razor infers that it’s you that’s fucktarded.
    Derek and his minions are right wing, Fox news, dicksuckers. While some are college educated, most, like you, can't think for themselves.

    No one of any influence in the legislative process wants open borders. But your news source tells you they do so you believe it.



    Yet you can't find any Democrat in Congress who wants open borders.
    Keith Ellison. Still a Congressman. Still a Democrat.

    You found that he supposedly wore a t-shirt saying that.
    Your dream girl does.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/8/hillary-clinton-dreams-open-borders-leaked-speech-/
    Great job taking a quote out of context. Dumbfuck.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    Hugo Chavez got voted into power too. People forget that once upon a time Venezuela was a rich and thriving democracy until socialists were voted in and killed it, turning it into a quagmire of fail. Now it's a dictatorship and the rest of the details everyone here already knows.

    Simple question. Why will your socialists succeed when the others before them failed without exception? How will Bernie's socialists avoid the pitfalls of their predecessors -- Lenin's socialists, Stalin's socialists, Hitler's socialists, Mao's socialists, Pol Pot's socialists, Chavez's socialists, Fidel's socialists?

    Because we’re not socialists.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,480
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

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    So apparently black Americans are even more raysiss than white Americans when it comes to immigration policy. @RaceBannon true?

    But the times, to coin a phrase, they are a changin’. Democrats who believe that they have a permanent hold on the African-American vote should take a look at how these voters view their position on immigration. A recent Harvard-Harris survey found that African-Americans are the racial group most opposed to unlimited immigration. Whereas 79 percent of whites want to prioritize legal immigrants based on what they can contribute to our society, fully 85 percent of African-Americans hold that view. A party that advocates open borders and the abolition of ICE is going to get fewer and fewer of their votes.

    https://spectator.org/the-next-american-revolution-walkaway/

    What party is that exactly?
    The "Party of the People"

    Use critical thinking. The abolish ICE thing is dumb and most Americans, like you, aren't smart enough to understand what they are saying. That being said, no politician is advocating, or wanting to, have open borders.
    Yes they are


    Just because it is political suicide doesn't make it not so

    The old Americans are too stupid to understand the brilliance of the democrats bullshit being trotted out here

    Americans are too smart to buy the shit

    If you don't want border enforcement you want open borders

    Period fucking end of story
    You still haven't produced one link saying they want open borders. Other than conservative bullshit
    Keith Ellison, the Deputy Chair of the DNC, was photographed wearing a shirt that translates to “I Don’t Believe in Borders”.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/25/keith-ellison-poses-with-stolen-land-sign/
    Using your logic, all of Fox news are white supremacists.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/395650-guilflyle-photographed-with-pizzagate-conspiracy-theorist?amp
    My logic? You asked for one link and I provided it. Now you’re just deflecting.
    Your link is fucktarded.

    HTH
    As I constantly have to ‘click to reveal’ your downvoted posts, Occam’s Razor infers that it’s you that’s fucktarded.
    Derek and his minions are right wing, Fox news, dicksuckers. While some are college educated, most, like you, can't think for themselves.

    No one of any influence in the legislative process wants open borders. But your news source tells you they do so you believe it.



    Yet you can't find any Democrat in Congress who wants open borders.
    Keith Ellison. Still a Congressman. Still a Democrat.

    You found that he supposedly wore a t-shirt saying that.
    Your dream girl does.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/8/hillary-clinton-dreams-open-borders-leaked-speech-/
    Great job taking a quote out of context. Dumbfuck.
    Great mansplaining as always.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp


    Abolishing ICE is extreme. Right now. Because none of you dumb fucks pay attention. “We absolutely do need to make sure that our borders are secure”. That quote is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The extreme leftist that wants open borders. It’s not abolish ice and have open borders. It’s abolish ice and replace it with something better.

    Abolish ice has low poll numbers but so does ice with just 37% of Americans having a favorable view of it. Just like everything I listed above started with bad poll numbers abolish ice, once people hear what the plan is instead of the propaganda, will rise.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b3a3916e4b08c3a8f6c803d


    Keep telling me about how extreme views held by half the country or more are. How we’ll never win in the Midwest even though Bernie spanked Hillary in the Midwest (sorry for the mental image). Keep telling me progressives can’t win when we Richard Ojeda leading in polls as a progressive running for senate is West Fucking Virginia. Keep up the lies, buy into the propaganda, because in the end you’re only fooling yourselves.
    I took a pole. Turned out 81% of Americans support not working but be given a lifestyle of a billionaire. With support like that how could it be considered extreme?
    It’s actually, the same poles you quoted. The question is “if you were given a lot of stuff that you didn’t have to work for, would you like that”?
    Who’s not working?
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp


    Abolishing ICE is extreme. Right now. Because none of you dumb fucks pay attention. “We absolutely do need to make sure that our borders are secure”. That quote is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The extreme leftist that wants open borders. It’s not abolish ice and have open borders. It’s abolish ice and replace it with something better.

    Abolish ice has low poll numbers but so does ice with just 37% of Americans having a favorable view of it. Just like everything I listed above started with bad poll numbers abolish ice, once people hear what the plan is instead of the propaganda, will rise.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b3a3916e4b08c3a8f6c803d


    Keep telling me about how extreme views held by half the country or more are. How we’ll never win in the Midwest even though Bernie spanked Hillary in the Midwest (sorry for the mental image). Keep telling me progressives can’t win when we Richard Ojeda leading in polls as a progressive running for senate is West Fucking Virginia. Keep up the lies, buy into the propaganda, because in the end you’re only fooling yourselves.
    I took a pole. Turned out 81% of Americans support not working but be given a lifestyle of a billionaire. With support like that how could it be considered extreme?
    It’s actually, the same poles you quoted. The question is “if you were given a lot of stuff that you didn’t have to work for, would you like that”?
    Who’s not working?
    I won’t be if the New Jersey girl gets her plan in pl;ace.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    Hugo Chavez got voted into power too. People forget that once upon a time Venezuela was a rich and thriving democracy until socialists were voted in and killed it, turning it into a quagmire of fail. Now it's a dictatorship and the rest of the details everyone here already knows.

    Simple question. Why will your socialists succeed when the others before them failed without exception? How will Bernie's socialists avoid the pitfalls of their predecessors -- Lenin's socialists, Stalin's socialists, Hitler's socialists, Mao's socialists, Pol Pot's socialists, Chavez's socialists, Fidel's socialists?

    Because we’re not socialists.
    I believe you when you say that you aren't a socialist. I believe that, because you explained it in another thread. I just don't believe that the leadership of the socialist movement has good intentions, or shares your version of patriotism. Even you acknowledged that there is going to be a problem with millennials when it comes to issues like free speech and fucking with the constitution.
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    We own guns so we can prevent Shit like this. HTH
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    Hugo Chavez got voted into power too. People forget that once upon a time Venezuela was a rich and thriving democracy until socialists were voted in and killed it, turning it into a quagmire of fail. Now it's a dictatorship and the rest of the details everyone here already knows.

    Simple question. Why will your socialists succeed when the others before them failed without exception? How will Bernie's socialists avoid the pitfalls of their predecessors -- Lenin's socialists, Stalin's socialists, Hitler's socialists, Mao's socialists, Pol Pot's socialists, Chavez's socialists, Fidel's socialists?

    Because we’re not socialists.
    I believe you when you say that you aren't a socialist. I believe that, because you explained it in another thread. I just don't believe that the leadership of the socialist movement has good intentions, or shares your version of patriotism. Even you acknowledged that there is going to be a problem with millennials when it comes to issues like free speech and fucking with the constitution.
    If I honestly thought that’s where this was heading I would not support it. I do understand your concern, I don’t think it’s crazy. If it does become a real issue I’ll stand next to you to fight it.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,699
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    If you don't want border security or enforcement you don't want America to control who comes here or stays

    If calling that open borders bothers you Ill just call it this

    Because the left is on record supporting it. I didn't really need to discover anything.

    The fact that it's unpopular was my point about dancing all around it like hondo does

    Be better
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

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    So apparently black Americans are even more raysiss than white Americans when it comes to immigration policy. @RaceBannon true?

    But the times, to coin a phrase, they are a changin’. Democrats who believe that they have a permanent hold on the African-American vote should take a look at how these voters view their position on immigration. A recent Harvard-Harris survey found that African-Americans are the racial group most opposed to unlimited immigration. Whereas 79 percent of whites want to prioritize legal immigrants based on what they can contribute to our society, fully 85 percent of African-Americans hold that view. A party that advocates open borders and the abolition of ICE is going to get fewer and fewer of their votes.

    https://spectator.org/the-next-american-revolution-walkaway/

    What party is that exactly?
    The "Party of the People"

    Use critical thinking. The abolish ICE thing is dumb and most Americans, like you, aren't smart enough to understand what they are saying. That being said, no politician is advocating, or wanting to, have open borders.
    Yes they are


    Just because it is political suicide doesn't make it not so

    The old Americans are too stupid to understand the brilliance of the democrats bullshit being trotted out here

    Americans are too smart to buy the shit

    If you don't want border enforcement you want open borders

    Period fucking end of story
    You still haven't produced one link saying they want open borders. Other than conservative bullshit
    Keith Ellison, the Deputy Chair of the DNC, was photographed wearing a shirt that translates to “I Don’t Believe in Borders”.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/25/keith-ellison-poses-with-stolen-land-sign/
    Using your logic, all of Fox news are white supremacists.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/395650-guilflyle-photographed-with-pizzagate-conspiracy-theorist?amp
    My logic? You asked for one link and I provided it. Now you’re just deflecting.
    Your link is fucktarded.

    HTH
    As I constantly have to ‘click to reveal’ your downvoted posts, Occam’s Razor infers that it’s you that’s fucktarded.
    Derek and his minions are right wing, Fox news, dicksuckers. While some are college educated, most, like you, can't think for themselves.

    No one of any influence in the legislative process wants open borders. But your news source tells you they do so you believe it.



    Yet you can't find any Democrat in Congress who wants open borders.
    Keith Ellison. Still a Congressman. Still a Democrat.

    You found that he supposedly wore a t-shirt saying that.
    Your dream girl does.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/8/hillary-clinton-dreams-open-borders-leaked-speech-/
    Great job taking a quote out of context. Dumbfuck.
    Great mansplaining as always.
    She is talking about the economy. It's the same thing when someone says about a professional services firm that we "have an office without walls." That doesn't mean anyone can work at the firm, there are still qualifications necessary to be employed. But people have the freedom to do thier business where they want.

    She's talking about a global approach without tariffs and such, businesses free to do business where they want. You can disagree with that point. As I don't agree we should have a 100% free global market. But I also don't agree with tariffs and stuff that Trump is implementing.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
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    A Federal judge denied trump’s effort to halt California Sanctuary State laws yesterday. There’s zero tolerance for trump’s bullshit here. Good luck with your “enforcement.”
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,699
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    A Federal judge denied trump’s effort to halt California Sanctuary State laws yesterday. There’s zero tolerance for trump’s bullshit here. Good luck with your “enforcement.”

    Thanks for having my back
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,538
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    Why is immigration reform laws never on the damn table lol

    Enforce! Don't enforce!

    Change the fucking law

    Does Congress actually do anything?
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
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    A Federal judge denied trump’s effort to halt California Sanctuary State laws yesterday. There’s zero tolerance for trump’s bullshit here. Good luck with your “enforcement.”

    Thanks for having my back
    I’ve got your back today if you need it. Drink plenty of fluids, use sunscreen and limit outdoor activity if you can. How’s that?

    Temperature in Pasadena right now is 113. Can only imagine what Riverside is like.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,796
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    A Federal judge denied trump’s effort to halt California Sanctuary State laws yesterday. There’s zero tolerance for trump’s bullshit here. Good luck with your “enforcement.”

    Thanks for having my back
    I’ve got your back today if you need it. Drink plenty of fluids, use sunscreen and limit outdoor activity if you can. How’s that?

    Temperature in Pasadena right now is 113. Can only imagine what Riverside is like.
    Shit, what's the Pasadena record? You need to get down to Laguna where its a chilly 92 at the beach. Riverside is 117 at the moment.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
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    A Federal judge denied trump’s effort to halt California Sanctuary State laws yesterday. There’s zero tolerance for trump’s bullshit here. Good luck with your “enforcement.”

    Thanks for having my back
    I’ve got your back today if you need it. Drink plenty of fluids, use sunscreen and limit outdoor activity if you can. How’s that?

    Temperature in Pasadena right now is 113. Can only imagine what Riverside is like.
    Shit, what's the Pasadena record? You need to get down to Laguna where its a chilly 92 at the beach. Riverside is 117 at the moment.
    It’s the July 6 record. Not sure regarding all time.

    I should be in Laguna! I’d ask for address and best time to arrive, but I saw how futilely that worked out for @Baseman in another thread so I’ll assume I’d be turned away as well.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,796
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    Swaye's Wigwam

    A Federal judge denied trump’s effort to halt California Sanctuary State laws yesterday. There’s zero tolerance for trump’s bullshit here. Good luck with your “enforcement.”

    Thanks for having my back
    I’ve got your back today if you need it. Drink plenty of fluids, use sunscreen and limit outdoor activity if you can. How’s that?

    Temperature in Pasadena right now is 113. Can only imagine what Riverside is like.
    Shit, what's the Pasadena record? You need to get down to Laguna where its a chilly 92 at the beach. Riverside is 117 at the moment.
    It’s the July 6 record. Not sure regarding all time.

    I should be in Laguna! I’d ask for address and best time to arrive, but I saw how futilely that worked out for @Baseman in another thread so I’ll assume I’d be turned away as well.
    I wish I was in Laguna right now. Last time I was there in May it gloomy, shit.
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