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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Pete is deliberately choosing not to sell what he should obviously be selling.
    i think he's arrogant enough to actually believe he can steal a national title because one time at boise he beat a pretty good team by 1 point on miracle trick plays in overtime in a game the other team didnt give a shit about.
    he also seems to be a genuinely good person so unlike scumbag football fans he prioritizes gay shit over giving himself the best odds of winning.
    Yes.

    Culturally SEA is very similar to the Midwest and very distant from the SE. Also, very distant from California.

    These are good maps representing this...



    I've always thought of UW as pretty similar to midwestern programs like Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, etc...

    We have a huge, high quality public university and we are in a town that—unlike the rest of the WC—actually really cares about football (tuff liberals like in the midwest).

    People get so hung up on what's going on 'RIGHT NOW' - but overall, our brand should be in a similar space to Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa and Wisconsin. We are sort of a combo of those things.
    This is my preferred map


    It’s an okay map for voting, but culturally and linguistically it’s not that good—primarily because it doesn’t reflect migration patterns.
  • HUSKYFANATIC
    HUSKYFANATIC Member Posts: 1,651
    edited June 2018
    Aren’t we supposed to poast recrootin shit on this board? Or is dis a gawd dam geography board?
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088

    whuggy said:

    Overthinking the issue. Win games. That's the ultimate brand. The best kids will come because they want to win. Those who don't aren't winners. Pete is well on his way to establishing the "win" brand. It's also by far the easiest sell and the one that most matches his no bullshit recruiting philosophy.

    Yeah good point look at the type of class Pete managed to land at Boise State of all places after he went 14-0, won the fiesta bowl, and finished 4th in the polls:
    https://247sports.com/college/boise-state/Season/2010-Football/Commits

    whuggy said:

    Overthinking the issue. Win games. That's the ultimate brand. The best kids will come because they want to win. Those who don't aren't winners. Pete is well on his way to establishing the "win" brand. It's also by far the easiest sell and the one that most matches his no bullshit recruiting philosophy.

    Yeah good point look at the type of class Pete managed to land at Boise State of all places after he went 14-0, won the fiesta bowl, and finished 4th in the polls:
    https://247sports.com/college/boise-state/Season/2010-Football/Commits
    Well if you're really having trouble understanding the difference between winning at Boise Trucking School and winning at UW then there's not much I can do to help you. The recruiting pitch is really so simple now. The staff just sells that they are a double digit wins school and the 5 stars move them up to 12-13 with numerous trips to the playoffs. This shit is really not that hard.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?

    Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city.
  • The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?

    Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city.
    TCU
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    edited June 2018

    The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?

    Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city.
    If we’re counting tOSU and Tejas then OU probably counts too. OKCsucks but it’s not significantly smaller than Columbus or Austin.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Isn’t ASU basically in Phoenix? Never been there, could be wrong.

    Obviously our Big Teb brethren Minnesota (lol).
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    dnc said:

    The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?

    Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city.
    If we’re counting tOSU and Tejas then OU probably counts too. OKCsucks but it’s not significantly smaller than Columbus or Austin.
    If we are counting schools that are in suburbs or close to major cities then we need to count Northwestern, Colorado, Rutgers, Maryland, Stanford, ASU...probably others.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,435 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?

    Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city.
    If we’re counting tOSU and Tejas then OU probably counts too. OKCsucks but it’s not significantly smaller than Columbus or Austin.
    If we are counting schools that are in suburbs or close to major cities then we need to count Northwestern, Colorado, Rutgers, Maryland, Stanford, ASU...probably others.
    The B1G thought Rutgers and Maryland would get big tv markets