WE NEED TO REALIZE THIS IS AN UPHILL BATTLE!
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if you want to go toe to toe with the LSUs and Clemsons you need bagmen. Flush, don’t give a shit about academis and Upper Campus, bagmen.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Yeah, I like the comparison... LSU, UGA, Clemson and Auburn are Tier IIs that are all masquerading as Tier Is. Florida is kind of in that as well (though with their success in the 90s they are pretty close to actually being a Tier I, even though they aren't).YellowSnow said:
I think the overall product is fucking awesome and more kids are starting to get it. It's not as though we've been relevant for the past 10 years. But yes, the branding could use some tweaks. And that's where you guys come in - TSIO is the canary in the coal mine nit picking every possible weakness standing in our way of reaching the promised land.Dennis_DeYoung said:
All this means is it should be easier for us to dominate WC recruiting.YellowSnow said:
There's no short term fix to the issue that they just care more about football in the South and part of the Midwest. BUT we also have a rather advantageous situation to win 11 or 12 games a year - as long as Blake Shelton stays at USC and Chip is distracted by West Hollywood - and make to the CFP. 2010 and 2014 Oregon have a much harder path to get to the finals in the SEC.RaceBannon said:I loathe excuses but there is a point about how fucked up the league is in regards to football
But a winner sees the opportunity to dominate the West and making 5 stars beg to come here
Get it done or get the fuck out
But our branding is awful, so it's hard.
I have a bit of comparing Pete to Dabo fetish (Clemson is easily the best example out there of what Tier II winning a NT looks like in CFP era) and even with all the shit you guys bag on Chris for, I'd argue his early results and momentum are more impressive than Dabo's. What none of us can predict is if we plateau or keep on leveling up like Clemson has done.
The reason why I point to branding is because it matters a ton when it comes to getting HS recruits. It's not cool to say you're going to UW in the same way it is to say you're going to Clemson or LSU. Largely our branding is 'uh, what about this? This is cool, right??'
I'm no expert (well, maybe I am), but that's not a great branding stance.
There are people in the marketing dept that say 'the brand is whatever CP says it is'.
If we had a solid brand like Clemson did in 2013 then I would be more optimistic.
Our brand space right now could best be described as 'mushy middle' - we aren't traditional, we aren't innovative. We aren't tough and we aren't exciting.
The teams with skrong brands in the Pac are
1. Stanford: Intellectual brutality - traditional and top notch education, if you come here you already know no one is going to watch your games but you don't care because you will get drafted in the first round and also get to say you went to Stanford.
2. USC: Traditional, winners, big time. The Bama of the Pac. Branding could be a little better (more elaborated), but when you are the best you don't have to work too hard.
3. Oregon: INNOVATION IS OUR TRADITION or whatever. Shiny shit. But they do it well.
4. Utah: TUFF overachievers with good defense and a difficult home field to win at.
Our branding is weak and nonsensical. It's not coordinated nor driven by core principles.
If ever someone needed to read 'Kellogg on Branding' it's our fucking marketing dept.
Branding is nice. It gives White middle aged recruiting board subscribers fotter but it but it doesn’t give your #1Buck target a year old Beemer with rims from the dealer donating a modest amount to the athletic department, small enough to stay under the radar that when shit hits the fan, the coaches shrug and say, who’s that?
Pete will continue winning. Enough of the right kids will sign on. Occasionally they’ll come up with a Vea. Somewhere in that mix will be a BBK.
Pete may duplicate Adams and McGary, somewhere in the trenches you’ll find Nick Harris. Meanwhile that road grading guard (if he trips) with the eye opening visit and the family bond he felt with the coaches and players decides tOSU was the place for him. RE-Tweeting purple and gold, congratulating “family” and dropping a hint of an intended UW visit scores an easy quick $5,000 if “something comes up” and you cancel the trip.
Those early Sark first half victories brought the Doogs back in waves. But Doogy checks don’t pay for stadiums. Wire transfers and gift trusts do. Woodward knew LSU.
With Emmert gone and Sark, as the narrative went, on the verge, Woody got the big dollars for shiny new assistants, especially Tosh. Recruiting budgets were raised. Invoices were paid. Receipts got lost. Shaq, suddenly, had a revelation.
Sark sarked. Bills came due. Budgets got red—blood crimson.
Do it right, Pete signed on. Playoff appearance. Fiesta Bowl. 10 win (cupcake schedules) seasons.
Lake, Lubeck, Huff,now Malloe includes Gregory and Kwitkowski.
Winning, development, and stability play. 40,000 fans at the spring game helps but doesn’t trump $50,000 upfront, hot willing white girls, dank wheels, $1,500 monthly, and handling mama’s utility bill.
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I stand with Pete
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@koopdog has anyone thanked you for your service?
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elord821 said:
Add this as well:whuggy said:Overthinking the issue. Win games. That's the ultimate brand. The best kids will come because they want to win. Those who don't aren't winners. Pete is well on his way to establishing the "win" brand. It's also by far the easiest sell and the one that most matches his no bullshit recruiting philosophy.
Sorry. I had to post it for the millionth time on these threads.
Maryland is like 45 mins to an hour from DC.FremontTroll said:
If we are counting schools that are in suburbs or close to major cities then we need to count Northwestern, Colorado, Rutgers, Maryland, Stanford, ASU...probably others.dnc said:
If we’re counting tOSU and Tejas then OU probably counts too. OKCsucks but it’s not significantly smaller than Columbus or Austin.FremontTroll said:
Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?BleachedAnusDawg said:The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.
We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?
Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city. -
Needs to be quoted again.Dennis_DeYoung said:
I just expect people to be able to recognize the hallmarks of a Doog-y poast:Thebourbinator said:
I haven’t been on dawgmans forums since the days of recruiting the least talented of the Montana’sDennis_DeYoung said:
This is a quote from dawgman. HTHThebourbinator said:Call me a fucker of butts because between your BUCK post and this I just can’t handle the ups and downs of recruiting...
1. Lowering expectations
2. Acting like what is going on right now was inevitable
3. Acting like what is going on right now is the best we can expect for now
4. Saying in the future things could get better but no one is to blame if they don't -
Funny you mention that ... DFY and I were talking about something in the last 2 weeks about corporate strategy and brand management from a recruiting standpoint and I mentioned to him about how the UW desperately needs people like us behind the scenesYellowSnow said:If Chris would just put TSIO Consulting, LLP on a retainer, we'd win a NT by year 8.
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*DDYTequilla said:
Funny you mention that ... DFY and I were talking about something in the last 2 weeks about corporate strategy and brand management from a recruiting standpoint and I mentioned to him about how the UW desperately needs people like us behind the scenesYellowSnow said:If Chris would just put TSIO Consulting, LLP on a retainer, we'd win a NT by year 8.
I was only being 81% sarcastic in that comment. 19% was me being serious. Part of me thinks there's some higher level, intellectual type shit about why human beans from different backgrounds make purchasing decisions that college football programs could really use help with. IT'S OK TO ASK FOR HELP SOMETIMES. Consulting is a multi-billion dollar industry. -
Yes ... DDY fucking typos
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Only another page and a half to go guys, don't let bnb down!bananasnblondes said:This thread has made my dick so soft that it has changed states from a solid to a liquid. 3 more pages of this shit and it will be a gas
Once his dick changes to a gas we can call him Air BNB -
We won't get there if we go on about dick.dnc said:
Only another page and a half to go guys, don't let bnb down!bananasnblondes said:This thread has made my dick so soft that it has changed states from a solid to a liquid. 3 more pages of this shit and it will be a gas
Once his dick changes to a gas we can call him Air BNB
Boulder is 25 miles outside of Denver. That's like saying Everett should count.FremontTroll said:
If we are counting schools that are in suburbs or close to major cities then we need to count Northwestern, Colorado, Rutgers, Maryland, Stanford, ASU...probably others.dnc said:
If we’re counting tOSU and Tejas then OU probably counts too. OKCsucks but it’s not significantly smaller than Columbus or Austin.FremontTroll said:
Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?BleachedAnusDawg said:The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.
We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?
Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city. -
You new here?elord821 said:
We won't get there if we go on about dick.dnc said:
Only another page and a half to go guys, don't let bnb down!bananasnblondes said:This thread has made my dick so soft that it has changed states from a solid to a liquid. 3 more pages of this shit and it will be a gas
Once his dick changes to a gas we can call him Air BNB
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dnc said:
Once his dick changes to a gas we can call him Air BNBbananasnblondes said:This thread has made my dick so soft that it has changed states from a solid to a liquid. 3 more pages of this shit and it will be a gas
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Knew hear*dnc said:
You new here?elord821 said:
We won't get there if we go on about dick.dnc said:
Only another page and a half to go guys, don't let bnb down!bananasnblondes said:This thread has made my dick so soft that it has changed states from a solid to a liquid. 3 more pages of this shit and it will be a gas
Once his dick changes to a gas we can call him Air BNB -
I can remember on fagman bagging on all the Oregon brand people.
I haven't changed my mind. Branding is meaningless without winning.
LSU is a good example. Their brand today stems from having some of the most talented bad ass fucking teams in the las 20 years.
Brand means shit without winning. Winning comes first, then whatever your schtick is, even Peterson's boring no brand brand, becomes cool.
Oregon didn't win because of brand. Their brand became relevant because they won.
Rinse and repeat. Winning fixes everything.
Stanford is different and unique. A school egg heads turn down Harvard and Yale to attend that also offers elite D1 sports. The are in a class of one. Nobody in the PAC can match that. Nobody in the country can. -
When Creep is right, he's right.creepycoug said:I can remember on fagman bagging on all the Oregon brand people.
I haven't changed my mind. Branding is meaningless without winning.
LSU is a good example. Their brand today stems from having some of the most talented bad ass fucking teams in the las 20 years.
Brand means shit without winning. Winning comes first, then whatever your schtick is, even Peterson's boring no brand brand, becomes cool.
Oregon didn't win because of brand. Their brand became relevant because they won.
Rinse and repeat. Winning fixes everything.
Stanford is different and unique. A school egg heads turn down Harvard and Yale to attend that also offers elite D1 sports. The are in a class of one. Nobody in the PAC can match that. Nobody in the country can. -
Thats my point. I was responding to dnc bringing up OU which is in Norman not OKC.elord821 said:
We won't get there if we go on about dick.dnc said:
Only another page and a half to go guys, don't let bnb down!bananasnblondes said:This thread has made my dick so soft that it has changed states from a solid to a liquid. 3 more pages of this shit and it will be a gas
Once his dick changes to a gas we can call him Air BNB
Boulder is 25 miles outside of Denver. That's like saying Everett should count.FremontTroll said:
If we are counting schools that are in suburbs or close to major cities then we need to count Northwestern, Colorado, Rutgers, Maryland, Stanford, ASU...probably others.dnc said:
If we’re counting tOSU and Tejas then OU probably counts too. OKCsucks but it’s not significantly smaller than Columbus or Austin.FremontTroll said:
Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?BleachedAnusDawg said:The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.
We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?
Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city. -
Norman is way more OKC than Boulder is Denver thoughFremontTroll said:
Thats my point. I was responding to dnc bringing up OU which is in Norman not OKC.elord821 said:
We won't get there if we go on about dick.dnc said:
Only another page and a half to go guys, don't let bnb down!bananasnblondes said:This thread has made my dick so soft that it has changed states from a solid to a liquid. 3 more pages of this shit and it will be a gas
Once his dick changes to a gas we can call him Air BNB
Boulder is 25 miles outside of Denver. That's like saying Everett should count.FremontTroll said:
If we are counting schools that are in suburbs or close to major cities then we need to count Northwestern, Colorado, Rutgers, Maryland, Stanford, ASU...probably others.dnc said:
If we’re counting tOSU and Tejas then OU probably counts too. OKCsucks but it’s not significantly smaller than Columbus or Austin.FremontTroll said:
Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?BleachedAnusDawg said:The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.
We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?
Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city. -
So your point is that winning and branding matter? Great. This is revolutionary.creepycoug said:I can remember on fagman bagging on all the Oregon brand people.
I haven't changed my mind. Branding is meaningless without winning.
LSU is a good example. Their brand today stems from having some of the most talented bad ass fucking teams in the las 20 years.
Brand means shit without winning. Winning comes first, then whatever your schtick is, even Peterson's boring no brand brand, becomes cool.
Oregon didn't win because of brand. Their brand became relevant because they won.
Rinse and repeat. Winning fixes everything.
Stanford is different and unique. A school egg heads turn down Harvard and Yale to attend that also offers elite D1 sports. The are in a class of one. Nobody in the PAC can match that. Nobody in the country can. -
I will take your word for it having proudly never stepped foot in Oklahoma. Google maps says 20 miles from OKC so seems equivalent.dnc said:
Norman is way more OKC than Boulder is Denver thoughFremontTroll said:
Thats my point. I was responding to dnc bringing up OU which is in Norman not OKC.elord821 said:
We won't get there if we go on about dick.dnc said:
Only another page and a half to go guys, don't let bnb down!bananasnblondes said:This thread has made my dick so soft that it has changed states from a solid to a liquid. 3 more pages of this shit and it will be a gas
Once his dick changes to a gas we can call him Air BNB
Boulder is 25 miles outside of Denver. That's like saying Everett should count.FremontTroll said:
If we are counting schools that are in suburbs or close to major cities then we need to count Northwestern, Colorado, Rutgers, Maryland, Stanford, ASU...probably others.dnc said:
If we’re counting tOSU and Tejas then OU probably counts too. OKCsucks but it’s not significantly smaller than Columbus or Austin.FremontTroll said:
Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?BleachedAnusDawg said:The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.
We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?
Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city.
Norman is certainly less metropolitan than the other places I listed- Evanston, Palo Alto, Tempe, New Brunswick. -
he is the creepiest coug in the worldSwaye said:
When Creep is right, he's right.creepycoug said:I can remember on fagman bagging on all the Oregon brand people.
I haven't changed my mind. Branding is meaningless without winning.
LSU is a good example. Their brand today stems from having some of the most talented bad ass fucking teams in the las 20 years.
Brand means shit without winning. Winning comes first, then whatever your schtick is, even Peterson's boring no brand brand, becomes cool.
Oregon didn't win because of brand. Their brand became relevant because they won.
Rinse and repeat. Winning fixes everything.
Stanford is different and unique. A school egg heads turn down Harvard and Yale to attend that also offers elite D1 sports. The are in a class of one. Nobody in the PAC can match that. Nobody in the country can. -
I’ve never set foot in any of those four. I have set food in Boulder and Norman. Norman feels like you’re still in OKC (in the same way say Renton feels like you’re still in south Seattle). Boulder didn’t feel a thing like Denver last time I was there, but that’s been 15 years or so.FremontTroll said:
I will take your word for it having proudly never stepped foot in Oklahoma. Google maps says 20 miles from OKC so seems equivalent.dnc said:
Norman is way more OKC than Boulder is Denver thoughFremontTroll said:
Thats my point. I was responding to dnc bringing up OU which is in Norman not OKC.elord821 said:
We won't get there if we go on about dick.dnc said:
Only another page and a half to go guys, don't let bnb down!bananasnblondes said:This thread has made my dick so soft that it has changed states from a solid to a liquid. 3 more pages of this shit and it will be a gas
Once his dick changes to a gas we can call him Air BNB
Boulder is 25 miles outside of Denver. That's like saying Everett should count.FremontTroll said:
If we are counting schools that are in suburbs or close to major cities then we need to count Northwestern, Colorado, Rutgers, Maryland, Stanford, ASU...probably others.dnc said:
If we’re counting tOSU and Tejas then OU probably counts too. OKCsucks but it’s not significantly smaller than Columbus or Austin.FremontTroll said:
Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?BleachedAnusDawg said:The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.
We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?
Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city.
Norman is certainly less metropolitan than the other places I listed- Evanston, Palo Alto, Tempe, New Brunswick. -
Seattle is pretty unique in that it is a massively important U.S. and world city yet the local university garners a significant amount of local attention and is actually IN THE DAMN CITY and super close to the downtown core area. And is a major university both in athletics and academis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city
U.S. cities ranked higher or equal to Seattle:
NYC- no football, Rutgers is not that close
Chicago- Northwestern? Lol.
L.A.- USC, UCLA
DC- Maryland isn't close to downtown
SF- Cal. Too high
Miami- The U's well documented underachieving is well documented
Boston- LOL
Atlanta- Ga Tech is so far down on the attention list of southerners
Dallas- Fighting MBAs
Houston- no P5 team
Philly- no P5 team
Denver- Boulder is not in Denver
Minneapolis- Minn sucks
St. Louis/San Diego- I'm not sure how they are Seattle's equal, but no teams
GTFOOH with calling Oklahoma City and Columbus and Nashville as cities on the level of Seattle. They might be to people from those regions, but that shit is small time.
If someone wants to go to college in a town where the college is the only thing going on and that's all that matters, that's fine, good for them, but our brand should be if you want to play big-time football for a big-time coach while going to a big-time school in a big-time city, your only option is Washington. -
Agreewhlinder said:Seattle is pretty unique in that it is a massively important U.S. and world city yet the local university garners a significant amount of local attention and is actually IN THE DAMN CITY and super close to the downtown core area. And is a major university both in athletics and academis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city
U.S. cities ranked higher or equal to Seattle:
NYC- no football, Rutgers is not that close
Chicago- Northwestern? Lol.
L.A.- USC, UCLA
DC- Maryland isn't close to downtown
SF- Cal. Too high
Miami- The U's well documented underachieving is well documented
Boston- LOL
Atlanta- Ga Tech is so far down on the attention list of southerners
Dallas- Fighting MBAs
Houston- no P5 team
Philly- no P5 team
Denver- Boulder is not in Denver
Minneapolis- Minn sucks
St. Louis/San Diego- I'm not sure how they are Seattle's equal, but no teams
GTFOOH with calling Oklahoma City and Columbus and Nashville as cities on the level of Seattle. They might be to people from those regions, but that shit is small time.
If someone wants to go to college in a town where the college is the only thing going on and that's all that matters, that's fine, good for them, but our brand should be if you want to play big-time football for a big-time coach while going to a big-time school in a big-time city, your only option is Washington. -
You fags are getting closerbananasnblondes said:This thread has made my dick so soft that it has changed states from a solid to a liquid. 3 more pages of this shit and it will be a gas
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Yes. That was my poont.whlinder said:Seattle is pretty unique in that it is a massively important U.S. and world city yet the local university garners a significant amount of local attention and is actually IN THE DAMN CITY and super close to the downtown core area. And is a major university both in athletics and academis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city
U.S. cities ranked higher or equal to Seattle:
NYC- no football, Rutgers is not that close
Chicago- Northwestern? Lol.
L.A.- USC, UCLA
DC- Maryland isn't close to downtown
SF- Cal. Too high
Miami- The U's well documented underachieving is well documented
Boston- LOL
Atlanta- Ga Tech is so far down on the attention list of southerners
Dallas- Fighting MBAs
Houston- no P5 team
Philly- no P5 team
Denver- Boulder is not in Denver
Minneapolis- Minn sucks
St. Louis/San Diego- I'm not sure how they are Seattle's equal, but no teams
GTFOOH with calling Oklahoma City and Columbus and Nashville as cities on the level of Seattle. They might be to people from those regions, but that shit is small time.
If someone wants to go to college in a town where the college is the only thing going on and that's all that matters, that's fine, good for them, but our brand should be if you want to play big-time football for a big-time coach while going to a big-time school in a big-time city, your only option is Washington. -
I came.whlinder said:Seattle is pretty unique in that it is a massively important U.S. and world city yet the local university garners a significant amount of local attention and is actually IN THE DAMN CITY and super close to the downtown core area. And is a major university both in athletics and academis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city
U.S. cities ranked higher or equal to Seattle:
NYC- no football, Rutgers is not that close
Chicago- Northwestern? Lol.
L.A.- USC, UCLA
DC- Maryland isn't close to downtown
SF- Cal. Too high
Miami- The U's well documented underachieving is well documented
Boston- LOL
Atlanta- Ga Tech is so far down on the attention list of southerners
Dallas- Fighting MBAs
Houston- no P5 team
Philly- no P5 team
Denver- Boulder is not in Denver
Minneapolis- Minn sucks
St. Louis/San Diego- I'm not sure how they are Seattle's equal, but no teams
GTFOOH with calling Oklahoma City and Columbus and Nashville as cities on the level of Seattle. They might be to people from those regions, but that shit is small time.
If someone wants to go to college in a town where the college is the only thing going on and that's all that matters, that's fine, good for them, but our brand should be if you want to play big-time football for a big-time coach while going to a big-time school in a big-time city, your only option is Washington. -
You are a sandy bleeding uterus these dayz.Dennis_DeYoung said:
So your point is that winning and branding matter? Great. This is revolutionary.creepycoug said:I can remember on fagman bagging on all the Oregon brand people.
I haven't changed my mind. Branding is meaningless without winning.
LSU is a good example. Their brand today stems from having some of the most talented bad ass fucking teams in the las 20 years.
Brand means shit without winning. Winning comes first, then whatever your schtick is, even Peterson's boring no brand brand, becomes cool.
Oregon didn't win because of brand. Their brand became relevant because they won.
Rinse and repeat. Winning fixes everything.
Stanford is different and unique. A school egg heads turn down Harvard and Yale to attend that also offers elite D1 sports. The are in a class of one. Nobody in the PAC can match that. Nobody in the country can.
So guess what?
Fuck off and get Bourdained.
Or keep rambling. I don't care. -
Damn straight.WeakarmCobra said:
he is the creepiest coug in the worldSwaye said:
When Creep is right, he's right.creepycoug said:I can remember on fagman bagging on all the Oregon brand people.
I haven't changed my mind. Branding is meaningless without winning.
LSU is a good example. Their brand today stems from having some of the most talented bad ass fucking teams in the las 20 years.
Brand means shit without winning. Winning comes first, then whatever your schtick is, even Peterson's boring no brand brand, becomes cool.
Oregon didn't win because of brand. Their brand became relevant because they won.
Rinse and repeat. Winning fixes everything.
Stanford is different and unique. A school egg heads turn down Harvard and Yale to attend that also offers elite D1 sports. The are in a class of one. Nobody in the PAC can match that. Nobody in the country can. -
And, that wasn't my point you dumb dense dumb fuck.Dennis_DeYoung said:
So your point is that winning and branding matter? Great. This is revolutionary.creepycoug said:I can remember on fagman bagging on all the Oregon brand people.
I haven't changed my mind. Branding is meaningless without winning.
LSU is a good example. Their brand today stems from having some of the most talented bad ass fucking teams in the las 20 years.
Brand means shit without winning. Winning comes first, then whatever your schtick is, even Peterson's boring no brand brand, becomes cool.
Oregon didn't win because of brand. Their brand became relevant because they won.
Rinse and repeat. Winning fixes everything.
Stanford is different and unique. A school egg heads turn down Harvard and Yale to attend that also offers elite D1 sports. The are in a class of one. Nobody in the PAC can match that. Nobody in the country can.
Reed the post again.
One comes before the other. Hence, one is more important than the other.
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You're fucking stupid.creepycoug said:
And, that wasn't my point you dumb dense dumb fuck.Dennis_DeYoung said:
So your point is that winning and branding matter? Great. This is revolutionary.creepycoug said:I can remember on fagman bagging on all the Oregon brand people.
I haven't changed my mind. Branding is meaningless without winning.
LSU is a good example. Their brand today stems from having some of the most talented bad ass fucking teams in the las 20 years.
Brand means shit without winning. Winning comes first, then whatever your schtick is, even Peterson's boring no brand brand, becomes cool.
Oregon didn't win because of brand. Their brand became relevant because they won.
Rinse and repeat. Winning fixes everything.
Stanford is different and unique. A school egg heads turn down Harvard and Yale to attend that also offers elite D1 sports. The are in a class of one. Nobody in the PAC can match that. Nobody in the country can.
Reed the post again.
One comes before the other. Hence, one is more important than the other.
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