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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,388

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    I don't trust that fat dumpling for a second.

    Nobody should. Trust but verify isn't just a slogan from the 80's


    History has proven time and again that strength and the projection of power work better against despots than pallets of cash and agreements to allow them to build nukes

    After 20 r 30 years of the latter we can try the former

    @BearsWiin says not all problems have a solution

    We builder developer types know that every problem is just a solution waiting to happen

    Chuck Knox in another 80's slogan that I have used ever since

    I'm a problem solver for a living
    It's cute that you think building problems are somehow equivalent to diplomacy.
    The Builder in Chief is wiping up the floor with the career diplomats.

    When your living and think tank salary depend on not finding a solution so you can say things like "not every problem has a solution" you won't find a solution.
    It's cute that you think your guy isn't being played.
    It's cuter that you think he is. There is absolutely no risk in sitting down with the tinpot. The risk is in NK because their dear leader can't even admit SK exists

    Being played is giving NK reactors and cash and telling us? that it will be for peaceful use

    Bubba got played just like Obama in Iran
    It's cute that you think you understand this shit.
    It's cute that you don't. Funny how a brash shit talker is solving problems that all of your alleged academis could not. Thats got to hurt.
    So you think this is solved? That's hillarial. Even @RaceBannon isn't going that far.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,031 Founders Club
    LA 1973 12 2 0 .857 1st in NFC West 0 1 .000 Lost to Dallas Cowboys in Divisional Game.
    LA 1974 10 4 0 .714 1st in NFC West 1 1 .500 Lost to Minnesota Vikings in NFC Championship.
    LA 1975 12 2 0 .857 1st in NFC West 1 1 .500 Lost to Dallas Cowboys in NFC Championship.
    LA 1976 10 3 1 .769 1st in NFC West 1 1 .500 Lost to Minnesota Vikings in NFC Championship.
    LA 1977 10 4 0 .714 1st in NFC West 0 1 .000 Lost to Minnesota Vikings in Divisional Game.
    BUF 1978 5 11 0 .313 4th in AFC East – – – –
    BUF 1979 7 9 0 .438 4th in AFC East – – – –
    BUF 1980 11 5 0 .688 1st in AFC East 0 1 .000 Lost to San Diego Chargers in Divisional Game.
    BUF 1981 10 6 0 .625 3rd in AFC East 1 1 .500 Lost to Cincinnati Bengals in Divisional Game.
    BUF 1982 4 5 0 .444 4th in AFC East – – – –
    BUF Total 37 36 0 .507 1 2 .333 –
    SEA 1983 9 7 0 .563 2nd in AFC West 2 1 .667 Lost to Los Angeles Raiders in AFC Championship.
    SEA 1984 12 4 0 .750 2nd in AFC West 1 1 .500 Lost to Miami Dolphins in Divisional Game.
    SEA 1985 8 8 0 .500 3rd in AFC West – – – –
    SEA 1986 10 6 0 .625 2nd in AFC West – – – –
    SEA 1987 9 6 0 .600 2nd in AFC West 0 1 .000 Lost to Houston Oilers in Wild Card Game.
    SEA 1988 9 7 0 .563 1st in AFC West 0 1 .000 Lost to Cincinnati Bengals in Divisional Game.

    Dude is still alive which surprised me. Lots of division titles in this unreadable table

    But more importantly - there are no problems, only opportunities for a solution

    My guys started quoting it to me after a few years

    Uh we have an opportunity for a solution here
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,388
    edited March 2018

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    I don't trust that fat dumpling for a second.

    Nobody should. Trust but verify isn't just a slogan from the 80's


    History has proven time and again that strength and the projection of power work better against despots than pallets of cash and agreements to allow them to build nukes

    After 20 r 30 years of the latter we can try the former

    @BearsWiin says not all problems have a solution

    We builder developer types know that every problem is just a solution waiting to happen

    Chuck Knox in another 80's slogan that I have used ever since

    I'm a problem solver for a living
    It's cute that you think building problems are somehow equivalent to diplomacy.
    The Builder in Chief is wiping up the floor with the career diplomats.

    When your living and think tank salary depend on not finding a solution so you can say things like "not every problem has a solution" you won't find a solution.
    It's cute that you think your guy isn't being played.
    It's cuter that you think he is. There is absolutely no risk in sitting down with the tinpot. The risk is in NK because their dear leader can't even admit SK exists

    Being played is giving NK reactors and cash and telling us? that it will be for peaceful use

    Bubba got played just like Obama in Iran
    It's cute that you think you understand this shit.
    It's cute that you don't. Funny how a brash shit talker is solving problems that all of your alleged academis could not. Thats got to hurt.
    It's cute that you think that your kindergartner-in-chief is solving anything.
    When the bully comes to break your glasses and take your lunch money, guys like you hand it over and then ask if there's anything else you can do to appease them. Trump just kicks the bastards in the balls and breaks their teeth. Winston Churchill had the same attitude toward Hitler.That's the proper way to deal with a bully. Your way and the way of your pussy "new democrats" who were supposed to "drag the rest of the country kicking and screaming into the 21st century" failed. Time to try something else.
    This is getting embarrassing. We're not in middle school here. I'm told international affairs are different.

    If it were that simple, we'd have settled the middle east a long, long, long time ago.

    PS: I watched Darkest Hours too. Remember, they were fucked unless and until we got involved. He knew we would eventually, which helped him find his balls. Churchill was a great orator; he was not a great military strategerist.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    pawz said:

    I guess I am fucking cute

    My voting against him twice gives me cred. I'm not some deranged hater of any GOP that dares to win an election for President

    It's perfectly plausible that another GOP would have beaten Hill. Maybe not with the same map, but still doable.











    Only Rand Paul, imo. I still not sure he could have gotten out of the primary.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_kasich_vs_clinton-5162.html

    Rand Paul - hell no.

    Kasich was polling well ahead of Hill in April 2016. She was a terribly weak candidate. At a minimum, I think Kasich could have pulled out something like 2004 GW. It's fiction that Trump was the only GOP option who could win.
    I never said he was which is why I wondered why you replied to me with it


    I do think that it takes a Trumpian character to withstand the massive Left Wing smear machine

    Romney should have beat Obama but he was a pussy. McCain didn't even campaign in 08.

    The Clintons are not easy to beat. She won the popular vote in case you hadn't heard. Kasich was dem light. No point in voting for a copy when you can have the real thing like HIllary
    We? will never know. Bannon worked it out, and Trump was the perfect Bannon candidate, because he'll say anything. Could Kasich have won with a Bannon campaign? Would he have had the stones to do it? Or Rand? Doubtful. I don't think either one of those guys can stomach Bannon. Trump can and did and won.

    Could Kasich or Rand have won w/o a neo-populist movement behind them? Potentially, especially Kasich. The dems. and Hill did their part in all this, as we've discussed b4. I think people still think Rand is his Dad, and neither of them is good on camera or very relatable, espeshully the son, who comes off as a bit of weirdo; his interview on GMA was just killer turrible and may have done him in before he ever really got started.

    I still think Romney would have been a helluva conservative choice for the R. Presentable, great hair, no skeletons, business acumen, etc. Even w/ the cult affiliation, Romney comes off like a guy who appreciates the value of keeping the church/state divide nice and wide. And I don't think Mormons generally care to pander to the white trash evangelical right.
    Romney is not a conservative. HTH.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,853 Founders Club

    Kasich was a loser bitch. He was no different than Hillary or any other jackass representing the one party in power. The R or a D behind the name is just a guise. It's the same party. Trump didn't belong to it. It's why he won. It's why they hate him. It's why I'm voting him in for a second term.

    So, what have you gotten thus far OBK different from orthodox GOP positions? Are the 11 million illegals gone? Is the wall built? There were some tax cuts in the standard GOP fare. The jurdges are the same that any GOP President would have nominated. Style over substance if you axe me.
    LIPO
    Sure, LIPO, but it's becoming more and more of a realistic possibility the GOP loses the house. That's not left wing propaganda, and something you might want to be concerned over. Doesn't mean he gets convicted in the Senate or something but you won't be getting much done legislatively.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,031 Founders Club

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    I don't trust that fat dumpling for a second.

    Nobody should. Trust but verify isn't just a slogan from the 80's


    History has proven time and again that strength and the projection of power work better against despots than pallets of cash and agreements to allow them to build nukes

    After 20 r 30 years of the latter we can try the former

    @BearsWiin says not all problems have a solution

    We builder developer types know that every problem is just a solution waiting to happen

    Chuck Knox in another 80's slogan that I have used ever since

    I'm a problem solver for a living
    It's cute that you think building problems are somehow equivalent to diplomacy.
    The Builder in Chief is wiping up the floor with the career diplomats.

    When your living and think tank salary depend on not finding a solution so you can say things like "not every problem has a solution" you won't find a solution.
    It's cute that you think your guy isn't being played.
    It's cuter that you think he is. There is absolutely no risk in sitting down with the tinpot. The risk is in NK because their dear leader can't even admit SK exists

    Being played is giving NK reactors and cash and telling us? that it will be for peaceful use

    Bubba got played just like Obama in Iran
    It's cute that you think you understand this shit.
    It's cute that you don't. Funny how a brash shit talker is solving problems that all of your alleged academis could not. Thats got to hurt.
    It's cute that you think that your kindergartner-in-chief is solving anything.
    When the bully comes to break your glasses and take your lunch money, guys like you hand it over and then ask if there's anything else you can do to appease them. Trump just kicks the bastards in the balls and breaks their teeth. Winston Churchill had the same attitude toward Hitler.That's the proper way to deal with a bully. Your way and the way of your pussy "new democrats" who were supposed to "drag the rest of the country kicking and screaming into the 21st century" failed. Time to try something else.
    This is getting embarrassing. We're not in middle school here. I'm told international affairs are different.

    If it were that simple, we'd have settled the middle east a long, long, long time ago.
    Let Israel win the 48 or 68 war and its solved

    All these fucking brilliant we can't solve anything assholes and their forced ties set this shit storm up

    You were told wrong

    Look to FDR, the last war time consigliere (sp) we had

    Imagine sharing the earth with Nazi Europe and Nissan Far East

    Nope, we won. Then the bright lights who can't solve shit gave away half of Europe setting up the Cold War
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,021
    BearsWiin said:

    They said the same thing about Reagan

    Now they say the Soviet Union was going to collapse anyway

    The Left is never wrong. Just aks them

    Before you try to fit a round analogy in a square hole, you might read Steve Sestanovich's "Did the West Undo The East" from a 1993 special edition of The National Interest.

    Or you can just keep throwing shit because you're a bitter ex-Dem. You're choice
    Fucking Cal grads...I'm not sure which one is worse. Morons like HondoFS who at least don't claim intellectual superiority or true idiots that do.

    You ought to go read it yourself...as some might say Sestanovich "concluded that Reagan’s policies were crucial factors in the disintegration of Soviet communism"

    Keep rewriting history...
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,388

    Kasich was a loser bitch. He was no different than Hillary or any other jackass representing the one party in power. The R or a D behind the name is just a guise. It's the same party. Trump didn't belong to it. It's why he won. It's why they hate him. It's why I'm voting him in for a second term.

    Steve Bannon is why Trump won. When he got there, he had no more use for an idealogue who attracts the wrong kind of attention. But everyone knows why Trump got elected.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,031 Founders Club

    Kasich was a loser bitch. He was no different than Hillary or any other jackass representing the one party in power. The R or a D behind the name is just a guise. It's the same party. Trump didn't belong to it. It's why he won. It's why they hate him. It's why I'm voting him in for a second term.

    Steve Bannon is why Trump won. When he got there, he had no more use for an idealogue who attracts the wrong kind of attention. But everyone knows why Trump got elected.
    The Bannon obsession is not your finest hour here
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,388

    pawz said:

    I guess I am fucking cute

    My voting against him twice gives me cred. I'm not some deranged hater of any GOP that dares to win an election for President

    It's perfectly plausible that another GOP would have beaten Hill. Maybe not with the same map, but still doable.











    Only Rand Paul, imo. I still not sure he could have gotten out of the primary.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_kasich_vs_clinton-5162.html

    Rand Paul - hell no.

    Kasich was polling well ahead of Hill in April 2016. She was a terribly weak candidate. At a minimum, I think Kasich could have pulled out something like 2004 GW. It's fiction that Trump was the only GOP option who could win.
    I never said he was which is why I wondered why you replied to me with it


    I do think that it takes a Trumpian character to withstand the massive Left Wing smear machine

    Romney should have beat Obama but he was a pussy. McCain didn't even campaign in 08.

    The Clintons are not easy to beat. She won the popular vote in case you hadn't heard. Kasich was dem light. No point in voting for a copy when you can have the real thing like HIllary
    I don't think having Dem Light (i.e., what Bill Clinton was) is the worst thing quite frankly. I'm one of those boring, bland, Simpson - Bowles, Grand Bargain, compromiser types.

    Bill was not easy to beat. Hillary was (2008, 2016). She had historically bad favorability ratings going into the deal. Uncle Joe would have held the blue wall easily and killed Trump in a landslide.

    The country is still mostly moderate to conservative leaning. Obama was a once in a generation candidate for the Dems who could get out the vote in a way that Gore, Kerry, Hill could not.
    bubba bubba bingo! we have a winner and a chicken dinner.