Nobody should. Trust but verify isn't just a slogan from the 80's
History has proven time and again that strength and the projection of power work better against despots than pallets of cash and agreements to allow them to build nukes
After 20 r 30 years of the latter we can try the former
We builder developer types know that every problem is just a solution waiting to happen
Chuck Knox in another 80's slogan that I have used ever since
I'm a problem solver for a living
It's cute that you think building problems are somehow equivalent to diplomacy.
The Builder in Chief is wiping up the floor with the career diplomats.
When your living and think tank salary depend on not finding a solution so you can say things like "not every problem has a solution" you won't find a solution.
It's cute that you think your guy isn't being played.
It's cuter that you think he is. There is absolutely no risk in sitting down with the tinpot. The risk is in NK because their dear leader can't even admit SK exists
Being played is giving NK reactors and cash and telling us? that it will be for peaceful use
Bubba got played just like Obama in Iran
It's cute that you think you understand this shit.
It's cute that you don't. Funny how a brash shit talker is solving problems that all of your alleged academis could not. Thats got to hurt.
It's cute that you think that your kindergartner-in-chief is solving anything.
When the bully comes to break your glasses and take your lunch money, guys like you hand it over and then ask if there's anything else you can do to appease them. Trump just kicks the bastards in the balls and breaks their teeth. Winston Churchill had the same attitude toward Hitler.That's the proper way to deal with a bully. Your way and the way of your pussy "new democrats" who were supposed to "drag the rest of the country kicking and screaming into the 21st century" failed. Time to try something else.
This is getting embarrassing. We're not in middle school here. I'm told international affairs are different.
If it were that simple, we'd have settled the middle east a long, long, long time ago.
Let Israel win the 48 or 68 war and its solved
All these fucking brilliant we can't solve anything assholes and their forced ties set this shit storm up
You were told wrong
Look to FDR, the last war time consigliere (sp) we had
Imagine sharing the earth with Nazi Europe and Nissan Far East
Nope, we won. Then the bright lights who can't solve shit gave away half of Europe setting up the Cold War
In case you and the paste eating retard obk forgot, the liberals with brains gave us the Touring machine and the fucking bomb that won the war for the Allies.
It's cool to rip on intellectuals when you're a retard because what the fuck else are you going to do?
Einstein was a socialist. Socialists are not and never will be 'liberals' in the true sense of the word. Hth, hobbit. Now get lost before I chip your glasses and crack your plates. That's what Bilbo Baggins hates.
Kasich was polling well ahead of Hill in April 2016. She was a terribly weak candidate. At a minimum, I think Kasich could have pulled out something like 2004 GW. It's fiction that Trump was the only GOP option who could win.
I never said he was which is why I wondered why you replied to me with it
I do think that it takes a Trumpian character to withstand the massive Left Wing smear machine
Romney should have beat Obama but he was a pussy. McCain didn't even campaign in 08.
The Clintons are not easy to beat. She won the popular vote in case you hadn't heard. Kasich was dem light. No point in voting for a copy when you can have the real thing like HIllary
We? will never know. Bannon worked it out, and Trump was the perfect Bannon candidate, because he'll say anything. Could Kasich have won with a Bannon campaign? Would he have had the stones to do it? Or Rand? Doubtful. I don't think either one of those guys can stomach Bannon. Trump can and did and won.
Could Kasich or Rand have won w/o a neo-populist movement behind them? Potentially, especially Kasich. The dems. and Hill did their part in all this, as we've discussed b4. I think people still think Rand is his Dad, and neither of them is good on camera or very relatable, espeshully the son, who comes off as a bit of weirdo; his interview on GMA was just killer turrible and may have done him in before he ever really got started.
I still think Romney would have been a helluva conservative choice for the R. Presentable, great hair, no skeletons, business acumen, etc. Even w/ the cult affiliation, Romney comes off like a guy who appreciates the value of keeping the church/state divide nice and wide. And I don't think Mormons generally care to pander to the white trash evangelical right.
Kasich was polling well ahead of Hill in April 2016. She was a terribly weak candidate. At a minimum, I think Kasich could have pulled out something like 2004 GW. It's fiction that Trump was the only GOP option who could win.
I never said he was which is why I wondered why you replied to me with it
I do think that it takes a Trumpian character to withstand the massive Left Wing smear machine
Romney should have beat Obama but he was a pussy. McCain didn't even campaign in 08.
The Clintons are not easy to beat. She won the popular vote in case you hadn't heard. Kasich was dem light. No point in voting for a copy when you can have the real thing like HIllary
We? will never know. Bannon worked it out, and Trump was the perfect Bannon candidate, because he'll say anything. Could Kasich have won with a Bannon campaign? Would he have had the stones to do it? Or Rand? Doubtful. I don't think either one of those guys can stomach Bannon. Trump can and did and won.
Could Kasich or Rand have won w/o a neo-populist movement behind them? Potentially, especially Kasich. The dems. and Hill did their part in all this, as we've discussed b4. I think people still think Rand is his Dad, and neither of them is good on camera or very relatable, espeshully the son, who comes off as a bit of weirdo; his interview on GMA was just killer turrible and may have done him in before he ever really got started.
I still think Romney would have been a helluva conservative choice for the R. Presentable, great hair, no skeletons, business acumen, etc. Even w/ the cult affiliation, Romney comes off like a guy who appreciates the value of keeping the church/state divide nice and wide. And I don't think Mormons generally care to pander to the white trash evangelical right.
Romney is not a conservative. HTH.
Oh pleeze.
Last time I checked, Romneycare and gay marriage were not exactly part of the conservative agenda. Both happened in MA under his direction, guidance and leadership.
Now they say the Soviet Union was going to collapse anyway
The Left is never wrong. Just aks them
Before you try to fit a round analogy in a square hole, you might read Steve Sestanovich's "Did the West Undo The East" from a 1993 special edition of The National Interest.
Or you can just keep throwing shit because you're a bitter ex-Dem. You're choice
Fucking Cal grads...I'm not sure which one is worse. Morons like HondoFS who at least don't claim intellectual superiority or true idiots that do.
You ought to go read it yourself...as some might say Sestanovich "concluded that Reagan’s policies were crucial factors in the disintegration of Soviet communism"
Keep rewriting history...
It's clear that you didn't read the piece, because even one of the architects of Reagan's second-term policy knew it was much more complicated than that.
Since he was my boss for a year, you can bet that we discussed it in person.
Bham???
I'd say that ends, rather bluntly, the Sestanovich portion of this particular thread, which contrary to popular belief, has delivered!
Nobody should. Trust but verify isn't just a slogan from the 80's
History has proven time and again that strength and the projection of power work better against despots than pallets of cash and agreements to allow them to build nukes
After 20 r 30 years of the latter we can try the former
We builder developer types know that every problem is just a solution waiting to happen
Chuck Knox in another 80's slogan that I have used ever since
I'm a problem solver for a living
It's cute that you think building problems are somehow equivalent to diplomacy.
The Builder in Chief is wiping up the floor with the career diplomats.
When your living and think tank salary depend on not finding a solution so you can say things like "not every problem has a solution" you won't find a solution.
It's cute that you think your guy isn't being played.
It's cuter that you think he is. There is absolutely no risk in sitting down with the tinpot. The risk is in NK because their dear leader can't even admit SK exists
Being played is giving NK reactors and cash and telling us? that it will be for peaceful use
Bubba got played just like Obama in Iran
It's cute that you think you understand this shit.
It's cute that you don't. Funny how a brash shit talker is solving problems that all of your alleged academis could not. Thats got to hurt.
It's cute that you think that your kindergartner-in-chief is solving anything.
When the bully comes to break your glasses and take your lunch money, guys like you hand it over and then ask if there's anything else you can do to appease them. Trump just kicks the bastards in the balls and breaks their teeth. Winston Churchill had the same attitude toward Hitler.That's the proper way to deal with a bully. Your way and the way of your pussy "new democrats" who were supposed to "drag the rest of the country kicking and screaming into the 21st century" failed. Time to try something else.
This is getting embarrassing. We're not in middle school here. I'm told international affairs are different.
If it were that simple, we'd have settled the middle east a long, long, long time ago.
Let Israel win the 48 or 68 war and its solved
All these fucking brilliant we can't solve anything assholes and their forced ties set this shit storm up
You were told wrong
Look to FDR, the last war time consigliere (sp) we had
Imagine sharing the earth with Nazi Europe and Nissan Far East
Nope, we won. Then the bright lights who can't solve shit gave away half of Europe setting up the Cold War
In case you and the paste eating retard obk forgot, the liberals with brains gave us the Touring machine and the fucking bomb that won the war for the Allies.
It's cool to rip on intellectuals when you're a retard because what the fuck else are you going to do?
Existential panic, epistemic uncertainty and anti-elitism go a long way in explaining the Trump voter mindset.
Upvote for "epistemic". I knew my philosophy degree would come in handy one day. When I told one of my dads that I was taking a graduate-level course on epistemology, all I got was an eye-roll. "What the fuck are you going to do with that? Are you going to ask your boss how he knows what he knows? Good way to get fired boy!" Or something like that.
Nobody should. Trust but verify isn't just a slogan from the 80's
History has proven time and again that strength and the projection of power work better against despots than pallets of cash and agreements to allow them to build nukes
After 20 r 30 years of the latter we can try the former
We builder developer types know that every problem is just a solution waiting to happen
Chuck Knox in another 80's slogan that I have used ever since
I'm a problem solver for a living
It's cute that you think building problems are somehow equivalent to diplomacy.
The Builder in Chief is wiping up the floor with the career diplomats.
When your living and think tank salary depend on not finding a solution so you can say things like "not every problem has a solution" you won't find a solution.
It's cute that you think your guy isn't being played.
It's cuter that you think he is. There is absolutely no risk in sitting down with the tinpot. The risk is in NK because their dear leader can't even admit SK exists
Being played is giving NK reactors and cash and telling us? that it will be for peaceful use
Bubba got played just like Obama in Iran
It's cute that you think you understand this shit.
It's cute that you don't. Funny how a brash shit talker is solving problems that all of your alleged academis could not. Thats got to hurt.
It's cute that you think that your kindergartner-in-chief is solving anything.
When the bully comes to break your glasses and take your lunch money, guys like you hand it over and then ask if there's anything else you can do to appease them. Trump just kicks the bastards in the balls and breaks their teeth. Winston Churchill had the same attitude toward Hitler.That's the proper way to deal with a bully. Your way and the way of your pussy "new democrats" who were supposed to "drag the rest of the country kicking and screaming into the 21st century" failed. Time to try something else.
This is getting embarrassing. We're not in middle school here. I'm told international affairs are different.
If it were that simple, we'd have settled the middle east a long, long, long time ago.
Let Israel win the 48 or 68 war and its solved
All these fucking brilliant we can't solve anything assholes and their forced ties set this shit storm up
You were told wrong
Look to FDR, the last war time consigliere (sp) we had
Imagine sharing the earth with Nazi Europe and Nissan Far East
Nope, we won. Then the bright lights who can't solve shit gave away half of Europe setting up the Cold War
In case you and the paste eating retard obk forgot, the liberals with brains gave us the Touring machine and the fucking bomb that won the war for the Allies.
It's cool to rip on intellectuals when you're a retard because what the fuck else are you going to do?
Einstein was a socialist. Socialists are not and never will be 'liberals' in the true sense of the word. Hth, hobbit. Now get lost before I chip your glasses and crack your plates. That's what Bilbo Baggins hates.
You're moving the goal poasts. "liberal" in the classic sense is seldom if ever what we're talking about here, and when we use that term, again here, 99.999999999999% of the time we're talking about those favorable to socialist and progressive policies.
And, you know that.
So, the liberal, in the sense we use it here, gave us the smarts for the bomb. Just own it. It barely matters in this argument anyway.
Nobody should. Trust but verify isn't just a slogan from the 80's
History has proven time and again that strength and the projection of power work better against despots than pallets of cash and agreements to allow them to build nukes
After 20 r 30 years of the latter we can try the former
We builder developer types know that every problem is just a solution waiting to happen
Chuck Knox in another 80's slogan that I have used ever since
I'm a problem solver for a living
It's cute that you think building problems are somehow equivalent to diplomacy.
The Builder in Chief is wiping up the floor with the career diplomats.
When your living and think tank salary depend on not finding a solution so you can say things like "not every problem has a solution" you won't find a solution.
It's cute that you think your guy isn't being played.
It's cuter that you think he is. There is absolutely no risk in sitting down with the tinpot. The risk is in NK because their dear leader can't even admit SK exists
Being played is giving NK reactors and cash and telling us? that it will be for peaceful use
Bubba got played just like Obama in Iran
It's cute that you think you understand this shit.
It's cute that you don't. Funny how a brash shit talker is solving problems that all of your alleged academis could not. Thats got to hurt.
It's cute that you think that your kindergartner-in-chief is solving anything.
When the bully comes to break your glasses and take your lunch money, guys like you hand it over and then ask if there's anything else you can do to appease them. Trump just kicks the bastards in the balls and breaks their teeth. Winston Churchill had the same attitude toward Hitler.That's the proper way to deal with a bully. Your way and the way of your pussy "new democrats" who were supposed to "drag the rest of the country kicking and screaming into the 21st century" failed. Time to try something else.
This is getting embarrassing. We're not in middle school here. I'm told international affairs are different.
If it were that simple, we'd have settled the middle east a long, long, long time ago.
Let Israel win the 48 or 68 war and its solved
All these fucking brilliant we can't solve anything assholes and their forced ties set this shit storm up
You were told wrong
Look to FDR, the last war time consigliere (sp) we had
Imagine sharing the earth with Nazi Europe and Nissan Far East
Nope, we won. Then the bright lights who can't solve shit gave away half of Europe setting up the Cold War
In case you and the paste eating retard obk forgot, the liberals with brains gave us the Touring machine and the fucking bomb that won the war for the Allies.
It's cool to rip on intellectuals when you're a retard because what the fuck else are you going to do?
Einstein was a socialist. Socialists are not and never will be 'liberals' in the true sense of the word. Hth, hobbit. Now get lost before I chip your glasses and crack your plates. That's what Bilbo Baggins hates.
You're moving the goal poasts. "liberal" in the classic sense is seldom if ever what we're talking about here, and when we use that term, again here, 99.999999999999% of the time we're talking about those favorable to socialist and progressive policies.
And, you know that.
So, the liberal, in the sense we use it here, gave us the smarts for the bomb. Just own it. It barely matters in this argument anyway.
Kasich was polling well ahead of Hill in April 2016. She was a terribly weak candidate. At a minimum, I think Kasich could have pulled out something like 2004 GW. It's fiction that Trump was the only GOP option who could win.
I never said he was which is why I wondered why you replied to me with it
I do think that it takes a Trumpian character to withstand the massive Left Wing smear machine
Romney should have beat Obama but he was a pussy. McCain didn't even campaign in 08.
The Clintons are not easy to beat. She won the popular vote in case you hadn't heard. Kasich was dem light. No point in voting for a copy when you can have the real thing like HIllary
We? will never know. Bannon worked it out, and Trump was the perfect Bannon candidate, because he'll say anything. Could Kasich have won with a Bannon campaign? Would he have had the stones to do it? Or Rand? Doubtful. I don't think either one of those guys can stomach Bannon. Trump can and did and won.
Could Kasich or Rand have won w/o a neo-populist movement behind them? Potentially, especially Kasich. The dems. and Hill did their part in all this, as we've discussed b4. I think people still think Rand is his Dad, and neither of them is good on camera or very relatable, espeshully the son, who comes off as a bit of weirdo; his interview on GMA was just killer turrible and may have done him in before he ever really got started.
I still think Romney would have been a helluva conservative choice for the R. Presentable, great hair, no skeletons, business acumen, etc. Even w/ the cult affiliation, Romney comes off like a guy who appreciates the value of keeping the church/state divide nice and wide. And I don't think Mormons generally care to pander to the white trash evangelical right.
Romney is not a conservative. HTH.
Oh pleeze.
Last time I checked, Romneycare and gay marriage were not exactly part of the conservative agenda. Both happened in MA under his direction, guidance and leadership.
Last time I checked, Massachusetts is Massachusetts. Nobody governs there like a southern governor. Not for long anyway.
Mitt plays the game. If you think Romney, at his core of belief, is ok with homosexuality and wants more government in our bidness, then I have a bridge I want to talk to you about.
Romney knows what Snow said to be true: the country is still (or at least a few years ago was still) a largely moderate bunch. Romney is Mormon, too, and that also informs his political maneuvering. He has to be more careful than the rest of the right wingers because he has religious baggage.
He's a conservative. He's just not a nut, which is what appeals to you.
Nobody should. Trust but verify isn't just a slogan from the 80's
History has proven time and again that strength and the projection of power work better against despots than pallets of cash and agreements to allow them to build nukes
After 20 r 30 years of the latter we can try the former
We builder developer types know that every problem is just a solution waiting to happen
Chuck Knox in another 80's slogan that I have used ever since
I'm a problem solver for a living
It's cute that you think building problems are somehow equivalent to diplomacy.
The Builder in Chief is wiping up the floor with the career diplomats.
When your living and think tank salary depend on not finding a solution so you can say things like "not every problem has a solution" you won't find a solution.
It's cute that you think your guy isn't being played.
It's cuter that you think he is. There is absolutely no risk in sitting down with the tinpot. The risk is in NK because their dear leader can't even admit SK exists
Being played is giving NK reactors and cash and telling us? that it will be for peaceful use
Bubba got played just like Obama in Iran
It's cute that you think you understand this shit.
It's cute that you don't. Funny how a brash shit talker is solving problems that all of your alleged academis could not. Thats got to hurt.
It's cute that you think that your kindergartner-in-chief is solving anything.
When the bully comes to break your glasses and take your lunch money, guys like you hand it over and then ask if there's anything else you can do to appease them. Trump just kicks the bastards in the balls and breaks their teeth. Winston Churchill had the same attitude toward Hitler.That's the proper way to deal with a bully. Your way and the way of your pussy "new democrats" who were supposed to "drag the rest of the country kicking and screaming into the 21st century" failed. Time to try something else.
This is getting embarrassing. We're not in middle school here. I'm told international affairs are different.
If it were that simple, we'd have settled the middle east a long, long, long time ago.
Let Israel win the 48 or 68 war and its solved
All these fucking brilliant we can't solve anything assholes and their forced ties set this shit storm up
You were told wrong
Look to FDR, the last war time consigliere (sp) we had
Imagine sharing the earth with Nazi Europe and Nissan Far East
Nope, we won. Then the bright lights who can't solve shit gave away half of Europe setting up the Cold War
In case you and the paste eating retard obk forgot, the liberals with brains gave us the Touring machine and the fucking bomb that won the war for the Allies.
It's cool to rip on intellectuals when you're a retard because what the fuck else are you going to do?
Einstein was a socialist. Socialists are not and never will be 'liberals' in the true sense of the word. Hth, hobbit. Now get lost before I chip your glasses and crack your plates. That's what Bilbo Baggins hates.
You'd get a mudhole so big stomped in your ass that Swaye's Jeep would get stuck in it.
But watch a couple Trump stump speeches, then come to the Circle K and give it a shot, Sally.
Nobody should. Trust but verify isn't just a slogan from the 80's
History has proven time and again that strength and the projection of power work better against despots than pallets of cash and agreements to allow them to build nukes
After 20 r 30 years of the latter we can try the former
We builder developer types know that every problem is just a solution waiting to happen
Chuck Knox in another 80's slogan that I have used ever since
I'm a problem solver for a living
It's cute that you think building problems are somehow equivalent to diplomacy.
The Builder in Chief is wiping up the floor with the career diplomats.
When your living and think tank salary depend on not finding a solution so you can say things like "not every problem has a solution" you won't find a solution.
It's cute that you think your guy isn't being played.
It's cuter that you think he is. There is absolutely no risk in sitting down with the tinpot. The risk is in NK because their dear leader can't even admit SK exists
Being played is giving NK reactors and cash and telling us? that it will be for peaceful use
Bubba got played just like Obama in Iran
It's cute that you think you understand this shit.
It's cute that you don't. Funny how a brash shit talker is solving problems that all of your alleged academis could not. Thats got to hurt.
It's cute that you think that your kindergartner-in-chief is solving anything.
When the bully comes to break your glasses and take your lunch money, guys like you hand it over and then ask if there's anything else you can do to appease them. Trump just kicks the bastards in the balls and breaks their teeth. Winston Churchill had the same attitude toward Hitler.That's the proper way to deal with a bully. Your way and the way of your pussy "new democrats" who were supposed to "drag the rest of the country kicking and screaming into the 21st century" failed. Time to try something else.
This is getting embarrassing. We're not in middle school here. I'm told international affairs are different.
If it were that simple, we'd have settled the middle east a long, long, long time ago.
Let Israel win the 48 or 68 war and its solved
All these fucking brilliant we can't solve anything assholes and their forced ties set this shit storm up
You were told wrong
Look to FDR, the last war time consigliere (sp) we had
Imagine sharing the earth with Nazi Europe and Nissan Far East
Nope, we won. Then the bright lights who can't solve shit gave away half of Europe setting up the Cold War
In case you and the paste eating retard obk forgot, the liberals with brains gave us the Touring machine and the fucking bomb that won the war for the Allies.
It's cool to rip on intellectuals when you're a retard because what the fuck else are you going to do?
Einstein was a socialist. Socialists are not and never will be 'liberals' in the true sense of the word. Hth, hobbit. Now get lost before I chip your glasses and crack your plates. That's what Bilbo Baggins hates.
You'd get a mudhole so big stomped in your ass that Swaye's Jeep would get stuck in it.
But watch a couple Trump stump speeches, then come to the Circle K and give it a shot, Sally.
Neat gif of that fat lard-ass Trump pretending he's tough.
Do you beat off after you watch it - imagining Trump throwing you down and then going up in you?
Your man crush on Trump is comical.
You're mistaking me for doogie. I'm always 2 steps ahead of you, and you hate me for it I know. It's ok, you're not the first and you won't be the last bozo that OBK brings to heel. So go fuck off to your favorite shitty beach, find yourself a supple razor clam, lube your cock with handful of slime, and pretend you're getting some pussy, coz we all know its been years since you last dipped it in real cunt juice.
Neat gif of that fat lard-ass Trump pretending he's tough.
Do you beat off after you watch it - imagining Trump throwing you down and then going up in you?
Your man crush on Trump is comical.
You're mistaking me for doogie. I'm always 2 steps ahead of you, and you hate me for it I know. It's ok, you're not the first and you won't be the last bozo that OBK brings to heel. So go fuck off to your favorite shitty beach, find yourself a supple razor clam, lube your cock with handful of slime, and pretend you're getting some pussy, coz we all know its been years since you last dipped it in real cunt juice.
I can still smell your mom on my cock, so it hasn't been that long. The only cunt juice you ever experienced was hers too, so we have that in common.
You and doogie are two faggot peas in the same faggot pod. The only difference is he went to a university, not some shitty-ass community college. Not sure if that's more embarrassing for him, or for you.
I hate you because you're a dumb cunt. The rest is just funny.
Now they say the Soviet Union was going to collapse anyway
The Left is never wrong. Just aks them
Before you try to fit a round analogy in a square hole, you might read Steve Sestanovich's "Did the West Undo The East" from a 1993 special edition of The National Interest.
Or you can just keep throwing shit because you're a bitter ex-Dem. You're choice
Fucking Cal grads...I'm not sure which one is worse. Morons like HondoFS who at least don't claim intellectual superiority or true idiots that do.
You ought to go read it yourself...as some might say Sestanovich "concluded that Reagan’s policies were crucial factors in the disintegration of Soviet communism"
Keep rewriting history...
It's clear that you didn't read the piece, because even one of the architects of Reagan's second-term policy knew it was much more complicated than that.
Since he was my boss for a year, you can bet that we discussed it in person.
You mean the part in said article where he said such things as:
"As for the detente of the 1970s, its claim to have begun digging totalitarianism's grave is weak" (i.e. the previous point of policies like sending pallets of cash to places like Iran and nuclear reactors to NK is HondoFS...)
Getting to Reagan's policy, Sestanovich said: "Admittedly, the Soviet Union suffered no outright military defeat in the first half of the 1980s. Nevertheless, by the middle of the decade, the outlook on almost every front of the Soviet foreign policy was poor and clearly deteriorating. The list of failures needs very little elaboration: INF deployments in Europe and successive large increases in the US military budget; Afghanistan, Grenada, and the emergence of the "Reagan Doctrine," which put new pressure on Soviet clients in Africa, Asia, and Latin America; Moscow's exclusion from Middle East diplomacy, and the humiliation of Soviet-made weapons in the Lebanon war of 1982; the Solidarity challenge in Poland; robust Chinese economic growth against a background of continuing Sino-Soviet hostility. And all of this bad news before even mentioning the Strategic Defense Initiative, which threatened a new round of military competition and high-lighted Soviet technology inferiority. ... Mearly to recite this list of Soviet setbacks is to underscore the West's (aka Reagan's policies) role in discrediting the policy of Gorbachev's predecessors."
or, as Sestanovich summarized: "Soviet policy was particulary vulnerable because it had made a mess everywhere. This argument, if correct, implies that the unrelenting approach of the Reagan administration was probably more effective than a better balanced Western policy - beat up the Soviets here, conciliate them there-would have been."
He goes on to talk in detail about how Reagan's SDI program was particularly effective in screwing with your comrades, Reagan's calling for the wall to come down in 1987 causing all sorts of problems for the Soviets, etc. etc.
And, especially focusing on apparently you and some of you comrades here, he summarized by saying "it should be said that many who understate it (Western influence...i.e. Reagan's policies) are also moved by partisanship...."
Hey, I'm glad you worked for him. I'm sure that year his garden looked the best it has in, what, an entire year.
And a special shout-out to CreepyCoug for couging in and buying BearsDontWiin's shite.
Nobody should. Trust but verify isn't just a slogan from the 80's
History has proven time and again that strength and the projection of power work better against despots than pallets of cash and agreements to allow them to build nukes
After 20 r 30 years of the latter we can try the former
We builder developer types know that every problem is just a solution waiting to happen
Chuck Knox in another 80's slogan that I have used ever since
I'm a problem solver for a living
It's cute that you think building problems are somehow equivalent to diplomacy.
The Builder in Chief is wiping up the floor with the career diplomats.
When your living and think tank salary depend on not finding a solution so you can say things like "not every problem has a solution" you won't find a solution.
It's cute that you think your guy isn't being played.
It's cuter that you think he is. There is absolutely no risk in sitting down with the tinpot. The risk is in NK because their dear leader can't even admit SK exists
Being played is giving NK reactors and cash and telling us? that it will be for peaceful use
Bubba got played just like Obama in Iran
It's cute that you think you understand this shit.
It's cute that you don't. Funny how a brash shit talker is solving problems that all of your alleged academis could not. Thats got to hurt.
It's cute that you think that your kindergartner-in-chief is solving anything.
When the bully comes to break your glasses and take your lunch money, guys like you hand it over and then ask if there's anything else you can do to appease them. Trump just kicks the bastards in the balls and breaks their teeth. Winston Churchill had the same attitude toward Hitler.That's the proper way to deal with a bully. Your way and the way of your pussy "new democrats" who were supposed to "drag the rest of the country kicking and screaming into the 21st century" failed. Time to try something else.
This is getting embarrassing. We're not in middle school here. I'm told international affairs are different.
If it were that simple, we'd have settled the middle east a long, long, long time ago.
Let Israel win the 48 or 68 war and its solved
All these fucking brilliant we can't solve anything assholes and their forced ties set this shit storm up
You were told wrong
Look to FDR, the last war time consigliere (sp) we had
Imagine sharing the earth with Nazi Europe and Nissan Far East
Nope, we won. Then the bright lights who can't solve shit gave away half of Europe setting up the Cold War
In case you and the paste eating retard obk forgot, the liberals with brains gave us the Touring machine and the fucking bomb that won the war for the Allies.
It's cool to rip on intellectuals when you're a retard because what the fuck else are you going to do?
Existential panic, epistemic uncertainty and anti-elitism go a long way in explaining the Trump voter mindset.
Now they say the Soviet Union was going to collapse anyway
The Left is never wrong. Just aks them
Before you try to fit a round analogy in a square hole, you might read Steve Sestanovich's "Did the West Undo The East" from a 1993 special edition of The National Interest.
Or you can just keep throwing shit because you're a bitter ex-Dem. You're choice
Fucking Cal grads...I'm not sure which one is worse. Morons like HondoFS who at least don't claim intellectual superiority or true idiots that do.
You ought to go read it yourself...as some might say Sestanovich "concluded that Reagan’s policies were crucial factors in the disintegration of Soviet communism"
Keep rewriting history...
It's clear that you didn't read the piece, because even one of the architects of Reagan's second-term policy knew it was much more complicated than that.
Since he was my boss for a year, you can bet that we discussed it in person.
You mean the part in said article where he said such things as:
"As for the detente of the 1970s, its claim to have begun digging totalitarianism's grave is weak" (i.e. the previous point of policies like sending pallets of cash to places like Iran and nuclear reactors to NK is HondoFS...)
Getting to Reagan's policy, Sestanovich said: "Admittedly, the Soviet Union suffered no outright military defeat in the first half of the 1980s. Nevertheless, by the middle of the decade, the outlook on almost every front of the Soviet foreign policy was poor and clearly deteriorating. The list of failures needs very little elaboration: INF deployments in Europe and successive large increases in the US military budget; Afghanistan, Grenada, and the emergence of the "Reagan Doctrine," which put new pressure on Soviet clients in Africa, Asia, and Latin America; Moscow's exclusion from Middle East diplomacy, and the humiliation of Soviet-made weapons in the Lebanon war of 1982; the Solidarity challenge in Poland; robust Chinese economic growth against a background of continuing Sino-Soviet hostility. And all of this bad news before even mentioning the Strategic Defense Initiative, which threatened a new round of military competition and high-lighted Soviet technology inferiority. ... Mearly to recite this list of Soviet setbacks is to underscore the West's (aka Reagan's policies) role in discrediting the policy of Gorbachev's predecessors."
or, as Sestanovich summarized: "Soviet policy was particulary vulnerable because it had made a mess everywhere. This argument, if correct, implies that the unrelenting approach of the Reagan administration was probably more effective than a better balanced Western policy - beat up the Soviets here, conciliate them there-would have been."
He goes on to talk in detail about how Reagan's SDI program was particularly effective in screwing with your comrades, Reagan's calling for the wall to come down in 1987 causing all sorts of problems for the Soviets, etc. etc.
And, especially focusing on apparently you and some of you comrades here, he summarized by saying "it should be said that many who understate it (Western influence...i.e. Reagan's policies) are also moved by partisanship...."
Hey, I'm glad you worked for him. I'm sure that year his garden looked the best it has in, what, an entire year.
And a special shout-out to CreepyCoug for couging in and buying BearsDontWiin's shite.
In other news, things sharper than BearsDontWiin:
Way to cherry pick from the first few pages that establish background but aren't the meat of the article. What did Reagan give to Gorbachev, and what did he tell him to do with it? I' m curious as to whether you read the whole fucking piece, because from your choice of quotes it sure as hell doesn't look like it.
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I'd say that ends, rather bluntly, the Sestanovich portion of this particular thread, which contrary to popular belief, has delivered!
And, you know that.
So, the liberal, in the sense we use it here, gave us the smarts for the bomb. Just own it. It barely matters in this argument anyway.
Mitt plays the game. If you think Romney, at his core of belief, is ok with homosexuality and wants more government in our bidness, then I have a bridge I want to talk to you about.
Romney knows what Snow said to be true: the country is still (or at least a few years ago was still) a largely moderate bunch. Romney is Mormon, too, and that also informs his political maneuvering. He has to be more careful than the rest of the right wingers because he has religious baggage.
He's a conservative. He's just not a nut, which is what appeals to you.
But watch a couple Trump stump speeches, then come to the Circle K and give it a shot, Sally.
Do you beat off after you watch it - imagining Trump throwing you down and then going up in you?
Your man crush on Trump is comical.
I'm anti stupid pseudo intellectual
In my spare time I do drugs
Hope this clears things up
And yeah - it does.
I can still smell your mom on my cock, so it hasn't been that long. The only cunt juice you ever experienced was hers too, so we have that in common.
You and doogie are two faggot peas in the same faggot pod. The only difference is he went to a university, not some shitty-ass community college. Not sure if that's more embarrassing for him, or for you.
I hate you because you're a dumb cunt. The rest is just funny.
"As for the detente of the 1970s, its claim to have begun digging totalitarianism's grave is weak" (i.e. the previous point of policies like sending pallets of cash to places like Iran and nuclear reactors to NK is HondoFS...)
Getting to Reagan's policy, Sestanovich said:
"Admittedly, the Soviet Union suffered no outright military defeat in the first half of the 1980s. Nevertheless, by the middle of the decade, the outlook on almost every front of the Soviet foreign policy was poor and clearly deteriorating. The list of failures needs very little elaboration: INF deployments in Europe and successive large increases in the US military budget; Afghanistan, Grenada, and the emergence of the "Reagan Doctrine," which put new pressure on Soviet clients in Africa, Asia, and Latin America; Moscow's exclusion from Middle East diplomacy, and the humiliation of Soviet-made weapons in the Lebanon war of 1982; the Solidarity challenge in Poland; robust Chinese economic growth against a background of continuing Sino-Soviet hostility. And all of this bad news before even mentioning the Strategic Defense Initiative, which threatened a new round of military competition and high-lighted Soviet technology inferiority.
...
Mearly to recite this list of Soviet setbacks is to underscore the West's (aka Reagan's policies) role in discrediting the policy of Gorbachev's predecessors."
or, as Sestanovich summarized:
"Soviet policy was particulary vulnerable because it had made a mess everywhere. This argument, if correct, implies that the unrelenting approach of the Reagan administration was probably more effective than a better balanced Western policy - beat up the Soviets here, conciliate them there-would have been."
He goes on to talk in detail about how Reagan's SDI program was particularly effective in screwing with your comrades, Reagan's calling for the wall to come down in 1987 causing all sorts of problems for the Soviets, etc. etc.
And, especially focusing on apparently you and some of you comrades here, he summarized by saying "it should be said that many who understate it (Western influence...i.e. Reagan's policies) are also moved by partisanship...."
Hey, I'm glad you worked for him. I'm sure that year his garden looked the best it has in, what, an entire year.
And a special shout-out to CreepyCoug for couging in and buying BearsDontWiin's shite.
In other news, things sharper than BearsDontWiin:
Should we be shocked you are lapping up the writings of a Liberal who loves to defend intolerance in the name of Liberalism and "tolerance"?