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Trent McDuffie, 2019 4* DB, Bellflower (Bosco), CA (COMMITTED)

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  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,774 Swaye's Wigwam

    Swaye said:

    Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.

    Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?
    ...but still.

    Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.

    I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
    Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?
    IMO

    Commits

    Tuitele
    Bandes
    Spam

    Likely

    Heimuli

    That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
    This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).

    I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
    Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?
    Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.

    Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.

    Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
    We've consistently cocked it up in previous years so why not?
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Swaye said:

    Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.

    Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?
    ...but still.

    Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.

    I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
    Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?
    IMO

    Commits

    Tuitele
    Bandes
    Spam

    Likely

    Heimuli

    That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
    This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).

    I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
    Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?
    Dick Newton, Jordan Chin, and Daniel Bridge-Gadd
    Nick Harris
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    Swaye said:

    Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.

    Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?
    ...but still.

    Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.

    I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
    Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?
    IMO

    Commits

    Tuitele
    Bandes
    Spam

    Likely

    Heimuli

    That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
    This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).

    I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
    Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?
    Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.

    Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.

    Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
    Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.

    Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.

    And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.

    Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.

    #TimeToLevelUp
    Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.

    QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
    RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
    WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
    OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
    OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
    LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
    DB: Ringo, Ricks.

    Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.

    Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc.
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Swaye said:

    Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.

    Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?
    ...but still.

    Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.

    I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
    Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?
    IMO

    Commits

    Tuitele
    Bandes
    Spam

    Likely

    Heimuli

    That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
    This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).

    I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
    Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?
    Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.

    Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.

    Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
    We've consistently cocked it up in previous years so why not?
    CockItUp.gif
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    Meek said:

    Swaye said:

    Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.

    Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?
    ...but still.

    Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.

    I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
    Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?
    IMO

    Commits

    Tuitele
    Bandes
    Spam

    Likely

    Heimuli

    That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
    This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).

    I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
    Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?
    Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.

    Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.

    Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
    Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.

    Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.

    And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.

    Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.

    #TimeToLevelUp
    Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.

    QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
    RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
    WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
    OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
    OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
    LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
    DB: Ringo, Ricks.

    Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.

    Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc.
    paging @RachaelDoyle_Dawg to gtfo.
  • LaMichael_CorleoneLaMichael_Corleone Member Posts: 1,316

    Swaye said:

    Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.

    Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?
    ...but still.

    Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.

    I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
    Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?
    IMO

    Commits

    Tuitele
    Bandes
    Spam

    Likely

    Heimuli

    That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
    This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).

    I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
    Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?
    Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.

    Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.

    Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
    Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.

    Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.

    And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.

    Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.

    #TimeToLevelUp
    Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.

    QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
    RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
    WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
    OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
    OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
    LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
    DB: Ringo, Ricks.

    Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.

    Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc.
    The most true and by far the most depressing thing I’ll read for awhile so just like the rest of my problems I’m going to alter my state of consciousness to hopefully forget about it and start dooging all over myself when McDuffie commits and convincing myself we’ll get every single recruit on the west coast next year setting up my eventual suicide when we miraculously just get one of those guys.
  • PassionPassion Member Posts: 4,622

    Swaye said:

    Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.

    Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?
    ...but still.

    Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.

    I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
    Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?
    IMO

    Commits

    Tuitele
    Bandes
    Spam

    Likely

    Heimuli

    That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
    This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).

    I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
    Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?
    Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.

    Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.

    Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
    Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.

    Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.

    And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.

    Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.

    #TimeToLevelUp
    Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.

    QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
    RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
    WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
    OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
    OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
    LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
    DB: Ringo, Ricks.

    Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.

    Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc.
    Fuck everything.
  • DoogCouricsDoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739

    Swaye said:

    Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.

    Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?
    ...but still.

    Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.

    I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
    Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?
    IMO

    Commits

    Tuitele
    Bandes
    Spam

    Likely

    Heimuli

    That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
    This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).

    I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
    Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?
    Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.

    Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.

    Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
    Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.

    Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.

    And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.

    Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.

    #TimeToLevelUp
    I could believe we? fuck up next year but I don’t believe Huard will allow us? to fuck yo 2021.

    He’s going to make sure he is playing with studs and not waste his 4 years.
  • CrawfishCrawfish Member Posts: 734

    Swaye said:

    Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.

    Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?
    ...but still.

    Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.

    I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
    Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?
    IMO

    Commits

    Tuitele
    Bandes
    Spam

    Likely

    Heimuli

    That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
    This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).

    I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
    Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?
    Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.

    Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.

    Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
    Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.

    Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.

    And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.

    Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.

    #TimeToLevelUp
    Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.

    QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
    RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
    WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
    OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
    OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
    LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
    DB: Ringo, Ricks.

    Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.

    Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc.
    So, these guys are basically like DDY4. For so long, Pete has been getting a lot of DDY1 and DDY2 with a sprinkle of DDY3. In the last two recruiting cycles, Coach Pete has been getting a lot of DDY2 and DDY3. I think the Huskies are 1 or 2 more recruiting cycles away from consistently getting these elite recruits.

  • sinceredawgsinceredawg Member Posts: 798

    Swaye said:

    Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.

    Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?
    ...but still.

    Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.

    I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
    Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?
    IMO

    Commits

    Tuitele
    Bandes
    Spam

    Likely

    Heimuli

    That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
    This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).

    I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
    Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?
    Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.

    Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.

    Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
    Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.

    Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.

    And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.

    Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.

    #TimeToLevelUp
    Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.

    QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
    RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
    WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
    OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
    OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
    LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
    DB: Ringo, Ricks.

    Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.

    Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc.
    Young, Milton: 0% chance
    Flowe, Ricks, Robinson, Wilson: 5% chance
    Murao: 33% chance
    Hatchett, Smalls: 50% chance
    Ringo: 81% chance

    Add it up and we'll get 2.34 of them.

    Real talk if we get less than 2 of those kids I'll be disappointed. More than 2 I'll be thrilled.

    "Real talk" is our safe word.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.

    Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?
    ...but still.

    Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.

    I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
    Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?
    IMO

    Commits

    Tuitele
    Bandes
    Spam

    Likely

    Heimuli

    That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
    This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).

    I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
    Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?
    Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.

    Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.

    Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
    Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.

    Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.

    And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.

    Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.

    #TimeToLevelUp
    I could believe we? fuck up next year but I don’t believe Huard will allow us? to fuck yo 2021.

    He’s going to make sure he is playing with studs and not waste his 4 years.
    So Huard's going to SC then.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,065 Swaye's Wigwam

    Swaye said:

    Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.

    Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?
    ...but still.

    Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.

    I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
    Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?
    IMO

    Commits

    Tuitele
    Bandes
    Spam

    Likely

    Heimuli

    That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
    This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).

    I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
    Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?
    Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.

    Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.

    Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
    Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.

    Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.

    And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.

    Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.

    #TimeToLevelUp
    Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.

    QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
    RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
    WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
    OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
    OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
    LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
    DB: Ringo, Ricks.

    Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.

    Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc.
    Beat Ohio State and our brand will be top 10
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    The amount of things that would have to go correctly for us to land a REAL class next year are basically the amount of things that have gone well in the entire Pete era + 20%.

    Pete just isn't really serious about recruiting. It's pretty much that simple. If he were, there's no way Boner, Greggy, Paopao and Lubick would be anywhere near a job after early signing day.

    I've been paying really close attention to the top 2 teams in every conference. We aren't close guys.

    The issue is that we just don't take it that seriously. So, like this year - EVERY position needs to look like what our DBs look like at the minimum. That's a typical top 10 class.

    We think that's ASTOUNDING - but really it's just average for top 10 teams.

    We really need to change our expectations from 'good for a second tier P12 team' to a Top 10 in the country team.

    For all teams in the top 10 we are by far recruiting the worst (outside of UCF).

    Again, we have been the best overall program in the Pac for the last 3 years and we can't score a top 5 WR on the coast. One of whom's brother is on our team.

    The thing is - the space between where we are (which is pretty good) and where we are going to need to be to seriously contend, we are stile miles and miles away.

    If we close with Ford/Bru, Wright, Latu, Heimuli, Henry and McDuffie - then we are getting there.

    Let's look at the top 20 teams in 247's composite ratings...

    When you look at the amount of top 300 players (over .90 rating, basically) in all classes (and USC) you can see where things are for us:

    Bammer: 20
    Texas: 13
    UGA: 12
    Fla. State: 11
    Notre Dame: 11
    TAMU: 11
    Clemson: 10
    LSU: 10
    Ohio State: 10
    Oregon: 10
    Oklahoma: 9
    Penn State: 9
    Auburn: 8
    Michigan: 8
    Florida: 7
    Tennessee: 7
    Mississippi State: 6
    Stanford: 6
    USC: 6
    Miami: 5
    Arkansas: 4
    Ole Miss: 4
    South Carolina: 4
    Washington: 4

    So, basically we'd be tied for 9th in the SEC in terms of elite players.

    ACC - Tied for 4th
    Big XII - 3rd
    Big 10 - 4th
    Pac 10 - 4th

    So, that's the reality of our top end talent. I'd like to see this number be 8 for us next year. And it's easily possible.

    Smalls
    Flowe
    Ricks
    Ringo
    Wilson
    Bijan
    Jay Butterfield
    Clark Phillips
    Gee Scott (lulz)
    Gary Bryant
    Jalen McMillan
    Ngata
    Botelho
    Hatchett
    DJ Rogers
    Matt Sykes
    Joran Banks

    etc
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