1. Win your P5 conference. 2. G5 teams that go undefeated are auto-bids (if there are more than three than just use the fucking committee to rank). 3. Fill the rest with at-larges from the current committee system.
Don't allow teams from the same conference to play in the at-large game.
This has the advantage of a) preserving classic bowl ties b) preserving the meaning of every game in CFB c) allows for this stupid power ranking bullshit every year that people seem to love, although I think it's FS d) allows for the shit challengers from G5 to get proper fucked, but have a great story to get there. e) add intrigue and fun as we don't know how many at-large teams will be selected.
First round (J1)
Rose: B1G vs. Pac-12 Orange: ACC vs. Big XII Sugar: SEC vs. AL3 Fiesta: AL1 vs. AL2
Second round (J8)
Peach & Cotton with the same rules as now, committee ranks, highest seeds play closest to home.
Third round (J15)
Rotate locations on a bid process like the Superp Owl... or whatever. Possibly it should be played the week between the divisional championships and the Superb Owl.
2014 Rose: Ohio State vs. Oregon Orange: FSU vs. Baylor Sugar: Bama vs. Michigan State Fiesta: TCU vs. Mississippi State
2015 Rose: Michigan State vs. Stanford Orange: Clemson vs. Oklahoma Sugar: Bama vs. Ohio State Fiesta: Iowa vs. Notre Dame
2016 Rose: Penn State vs. UW Orange: Clemson vs. Oklahoma Sugar: Bama vs. Michigan Fiesta: Ohio State vs. Western Michigan
2017 Rose: Ohio State vs. USC Orange: Clemson vs. Oklahoma Sugar: UGA vs. UCF Fiesta: Bama vs. Wisconsin
AND OTHER YEARS WE ALL CARE ABOUT:
2000 Rose: Purdue vs. UW Orange: Miami vs. Oklahoma Sugar: Florida vs. Va Tech Fiesta: FSU vs. Oregon State
1991 Rose: Michigan vs. UW Orange: Miami vs. A&M Sugar: Florida vs. Iowa Fiesta: FSU vs. Penn State
1984 Rose: Ohio State vs. USC Orange: Boston College vs. Oklahoma Sugar: Florida vs. BYU Fiesta: Washington vs. Nebraska
That's absurd. How will we justify a handful of millionaires collecting $500,000 salaries to determine "Whose in?" under that system?
Frankly, I like it best the way it was, and that's because it's the way it was. I like most things the way they were, because that's the way they were.
It was better with the random tie-in bowls (Orange Big 8, open; Rose Pac, Big, etc.).
It was more fun to argue about it. Who needs objectivity? Who cares? It gives smart and stupid people alike something to do.
I also wish there were more powerful independents. Those that played hard as nails schedules and went around mixing shit up to go along with old conference ties. It was messy, like an Italian kitchen. It was good.
Frankly, I like it best the way it was, and that's because it's the way it was. I like most things the way they were, because that's the way they were.
It was better with the random tie-in bowls (Orange Big 8, open; Rose Pac, Big, etc.).
It was more fun to argue about it. Who needs objectivity? Who cares? It gives smart and stupid people alike something to do.
I also wish there were more powerful independents. Those that played hard as nails schedules and went around mixing shit up to go along with old conference ties. It was messy, like an Italian kitchen. It was good.
GUOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone here who wouldn't rank January 1st, 1992 as their greatest sports viewing day of all time needs to LEAVE! Cal won a Citrus Party Bowl over Cimpson for crying out loud. I didn't even care that Miami beat Tom Osborne for the like the infinityeth time; we were National Champs before they even kicked off that game in the REAL Orange Bowl.
I assure you Dennis that in an NFL hating competition, I can hold my own with anyone here. And there's a hell of a lot more than just(now diminished) Bowls which make CF a far better product than the NFL:
For example: - Better tailgates - Better Fans - Better pageantry - Better (non generic) stadiums - More exciting games and varying schemes - TBSing - Try hard kids of all population groups playing for the love of the game and a free education
I can go on and on.
College football is easily the best sport in America because of its idiosyncrasies and regionality.
Pro football is a boring sport for people who like to get in heated debates about which corporate business is better than the other:
Nike vs. Adidas Coors vs. Bud McDonald's vs. Burger King
etc.
Duh. Coors Banquet Beers kicks Bud's ass. The boy's are thirsty in Atlanta and there's (Coors Beer) in Texarkana and we'll bring it back no matter what it takes.
Look, I think your proposed solution has a lot of merit. Sometimes, my inner nihilist just says fuck it and go faggy NFL style, which would have some cool matchups that we don't normally get to see- e.g., #4 UW hosting #12 Okie Light in Seattle in 2016.
This is easily the case. Just have the bowls then do the current system on the final two.
There is literally no good reason why to not do it this way...
When I was FUCKING NINE YEARS OLD... I said 'Mom, there should be a bowl called the Cherry Bowl (great idea, I admit) where the top two vote getters in the AP play and they should do it the week in before the Superb Owl when no one plays'.
FUCK THE WORLD.
Yeah, why not have Jude and his counterparts decide who plays for the natty, right?
THIS. Knowing what you are playing for and where you are going is so fucking cool. When we won the conference last year in fucking Santa Clara our fans should have all had roses out and players waving them around and we could book our trips immediately. Would have been amazing.
I assure you Dennis that in an NFL hating competition, I can hold my own with anyone here. And there's a hell of a lot more than just(now diminished) Bowls which make CF a far better product than the NFL:
For example: - Better tailgates - Better Fans - Better pageantry - Better (non generic) stadiums - More exciting games and varying schemes - TBSing - Try hard kids of all population groups playing for the love of the game and a free education
I can go on and on.
College football is easily the best sport in America because of its idiosyncrasies and regionality.
Pro football is a boring sport for people who like to get in heated debates about which corporate business is better than the other:
Nike vs. Adidas Coors vs. Bud McDonald's vs. Burger King
etc.
Duh. Coors Banquet Beers kicks Bud's ass. The boy's are thirsty in Atlanta and there's (Coors Beer) in Texarkana and we'll bring it back no matter what it takes.
Look, I think your proposed solution has a lot of merit. Sometimes, my inner nihilist just says fuck it and go faggy NFL style, which would have some cool matchups that we don't normally get to see- e.g., #4 UW hosting #12 Okie Light in Seattle in 2016.
This is easily the case. Just have the bowls then do the current system on the final two.
There is literally no good reason why to not do it this way...
When I was FUCKING NINE YEARS OLD... I said 'Mom, there should be a bowl called the Cherry Bowl (great idea, I admit) where the top two vote getters in the AP play and they should do it the week in before the Superb Owl when no one plays'.
FUCK THE WORLD.
Yeah, why not have Jude and his counterparts decide who plays for the natty, right?
I mean, it's really not that hard. This year for instance, it easily would have been Bama and Georgia for their season and their bowl games.
1) requirement for no FCS (division 2 or whatever its called now) games
2) required minimum 9 conference games for the P5 teams
3) must play atleast one non conference P5 team to be eligible
These are great additions. I would modify 1 to say 'must have 12 games non FCS'. The FCS stuff is different in different parts of the country, but in the South, a lot of programs make their whole nut for the year by playing up.
It would sabotage a lot of decent FCS schools to take away their ability to play one game 'up'.
1) requirement for no FCS (division 2 or whatever its called now) games
2) required minimum 9 conference games for the P5 teams
3) must play atleast one non conference P5 team to be eligible
I like these, and will expand it...
The P5 needs to tell everyone to fuck off and hire a schedule maker. The idea of teams creating their own schedules is fucking stupid.
What I would do:
Make all 5 leagues have even number of teams (14)
Every school either plays a FCS (these games are crucial for a lot of FCS programs) or none do. I'd lean to every team plays one.
The schedule is rotating based on conference records/strength each year (strongest conference this year plays weakest the next year and rank it down, or some order) OR it's just rotated over a 6 year schedule (Pac v. SEC in 2017, PAC v. SEC in 2018, PAC v. BIG 2019). You play two teams from the opposing conference, one at home one away (based on records) and it flips the next year.
All teams go to 9 conference games.
Schedule would look like this for EVERYONE: FCS, P5 Home, P5 Away, 9 Conference games.
This would allow for fans to know what is happening with their schedule and get excited by it. "Oh shit, Alabama beat Georgia this week, that means if we win out, next year we will get Georgia at home!!! How cool!"
1) requirement for no FCS (division 2 or whatever its called now) games
2) required minimum 9 conference games for the P5 teams
3) must play atleast one non conference P5 team to be eligible
I like these, and will expand it...
The P5 needs to tell everyone to fuck off and hire a schedule maker. The idea of teams creating their own schedules is fucking stupid.
What I would do:
Make all 5 leagues have even number of teams (14)
Every school either plays a FCS (these games are crucial for a lot of FCS programs) or none do. I'd lean to every team plays one.
The schedule is rotating based on conference records/strength each year (strongest conference this year plays weakest the next year and rank it down, or some order) OR it's just rotated over a 6 year schedule (Pac v. SEC in 2017, PAC v. SEC in 2018, PAC v. BIG 2019). You play two teams from the opposing conference, one at home one away (based on records) and it flips the next year.
All teams go to 9 conference games.
Schedule would look like this for EVERYONE: FCS, P5 Home, P5 Away, 9 Conference games.
This would allow for fans to know what is happening with their schedule and get excited by it. "Oh shit, Alabama beat Georgia this week, that means if we win out, next year we will get Georgia at home!!! How cool!"
Sounds realistic. When do we start to implement these changes and how can I help?
1) requirement for no FCS (division 2 or whatever its called now) games
2) required minimum 9 conference games for the P5 teams
3) must play atleast one non conference P5 team to be eligible
I like these, and will expand it...
The P5 needs to tell everyone to fuck off and hire a schedule maker. The idea of teams creating their own schedules is fucking stupid.
What I would do:
Make all 5 leagues have even number of teams (14)
Every school either plays a FCS (these games are crucial for a lot of FCS programs) or none do. I'd lean to every team plays one.
The schedule is rotating based on conference records/strength each year (strongest conference this year plays weakest the next year and rank it down, or some order) OR it's just rotated over a 6 year schedule (Pac v. SEC in 2017, PAC v. SEC in 2018, PAC v. BIG 2019). You play two teams from the opposing conference, one at home one away (based on records) and it flips the next year.
All teams go to 9 conference games.
Schedule would look like this for EVERYONE: FCS, P5 Home, P5 Away, 9 Conference games.
This would allow for fans to know what is happening with their schedule and get excited by it. "Oh shit, Alabama beat Georgia this week, that means if we win out, next year we will get Georgia at home!!! How cool!"
Sounds realistic. When do we start to implement these changes and how can I help?
Extend it to 8, but disagree with everything else. Discard all previous bowl ties. Why should the PAC 12 be forced to play a team from the BIG 10 in the first round every fucking year? Boring. Mix it up. Would rather see PAC teams face a wider variety of teams from other conferences in big games.
1) requirement for no FCS (division 2 or whatever its called now) games
2) required minimum 9 conference games for the P5 teams
3) must play atleast one non conference P5 team to be eligible
I like these, and will expand it...
The P5 needs to tell everyone to fuck off and hire a schedule maker. The idea of teams creating their own schedules is fucking stupid.
What I would do:
Make all 5 leagues have even number of teams (14)
Every school either plays a FCS (these games are crucial for a lot of FCS programs) or none do. I'd lean to every team plays one.
The schedule is rotating based on conference records/strength each year (strongest conference this year plays weakest the next year and rank it down, or some order) OR it's just rotated over a 6 year schedule (Pac v. SEC in 2017, PAC v. SEC in 2018, PAC v. BIG 2019). You play two teams from the opposing conference, one at home one away (based on records) and it flips the next year.
All teams go to 9 conference games.
Schedule would look like this for EVERYONE: FCS, P5 Home, P5 Away, 9 Conference games.
This would allow for fans to know what is happening with their schedule and get excited by it. "Oh shit, Alabama beat Georgia this week, that means if we win out, next year we will get Georgia at home!!! How cool!"
Sounds realistic. When do we start to implement these changes and how can I help?
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It was better with the random tie-in bowls (Orange Big 8, open; Rose Pac, Big, etc.).
It was more fun to argue about it. Who needs objectivity? Who cares? It gives smart and stupid people alike something to do.
I also wish there were more powerful independents. Those that played hard as nails schedules and went around mixing shit up to go along with old conference ties. It was messy, like an Italian kitchen. It was good.
GUOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just need to add a few small qualifiers:
1) requirement for no FCS (division 2 or whatever its called now) games
2) required minimum 9 conference games for the P5 teams
3) must play atleast one non conference P5 team to be eligible
It would sabotage a lot of decent FCS schools to take away their ability to play one game 'up'.
The P5 needs to tell everyone to fuck off and hire a schedule maker. The idea of teams creating their own schedules is fucking stupid.
What I would do:
Make all 5 leagues have even number of teams (14)
Every school either plays a FCS (these games are crucial for a lot of FCS programs) or none do. I'd lean to every team plays one.
The schedule is rotating based on conference records/strength each year (strongest conference this year plays weakest the next year and rank it down, or some order) OR it's just rotated over a 6 year schedule (Pac v. SEC in 2017, PAC v. SEC in 2018, PAC v. BIG 2019). You play two teams from the opposing conference, one at home one away (based on records) and it flips the next year.
All teams go to 9 conference games.
Schedule would look like this for EVERYONE: FCS, P5 Home, P5 Away, 9 Conference games.
This would allow for fans to know what is happening with their schedule and get excited by it. "Oh shit, Alabama beat Georgia this week, that means if we win out, next year we will get Georgia at home!!! How cool!"