DDY and I had a solid discussion on the topic of UW’s perception amongst the AA community in Seattle and the angles to it are really interesting when you think about it
The perception is that UW is elitist and out of touch ...
UW IS ELITIST ... and guess what, THEY SHOULD BE given the quality of the University, it’s standing, etc. As an alum, you should want UW to have a high standing because it has implications on your perceived quality ... the whole guilty by association thing. It’s also why we look down at Wazzu and Oregon because they are everything that we aren’t (small bs big town, strong academics vs piss poor, party vs commuter schools, etc)
For those that don’t identify with UW, UW feels as distant to them as Stanford or the Ivy League. It’s not fast vs slow strategy per se, but it’s just different perceptions, etc
The beauty of Pete and OKGs is that it perfectly aligns to what UW is. We’re essentially recruiting individuals that will thrive at UW.
The challenge that Pete will face going forward is how to incorporate guys that don’t look like the cookie cutter OKG but have the elite talent needed to win. And in saying this, that’s not just from a player perspective but what comes with them from a family perspective.
From the sounds of it if you buy the rumors, it sounds like Jr understands what is expected at UW and is aggressively pursuing an offer. You could argue that going to UW may unlock even more potential in Jr as he merged the fast and slow strategy (always best when you combine the best elements of both). But Sr is very clearly fast strategy as fuck and has haterade in his blood. Can Pete and those that help to mitigate these types of situations get Sr to calm down enough for Jr to earn his coveted offer? Or does Sr continue to project and try to live his life through his son like many fathers can fall into a trap of doing?
As with all of this stuff, go too far in one direction and you open yourself up as UW has very likely done at a pretty decent level. On the other, it’s also a strategy that has resulted in strong performance both on/off the field. It’s all about finding that balance and constantly working on strengthening your weakness while highlighting and cultivating its strengths.
Just curious, but is the sentiment the same for the hoops program?
Lots of very successful local African Americans going through the program who seem to be strong supporters of UW.
It seems like Pete's pursuit/fondness for slow strategy white-ish kids has come at the expense of the Heir/Garfield types, or has at least been interpreted that way.
Just curious, but is the sentiment the same for the hoops program?
Lots of very successful local African Americans going through the program who seem to be strong supporters of UW.
It seems like Pete's pursuit/fondness for slow strategy white-ish kids has come at the expense of the Heir/Garfield types, or has at least been interpreted that way.
I thought our shooty hoops street cred got pretty fucked when we fired Romar and hired a whitey
DDY and I had a solid discussion on the topic of UW’s perception amongst the AA community in Seattle and the angles to it are really interesting when you think about it
The perception is that UW is elitist and out of touch ...
UW IS ELITIST ... and guess what, THEY SHOULD BE given the quality of the University, it’s standing, etc. As an alum, you should want UW to have a high standing because it has implications on your perceived quality ... the whole guilty by association thing. It’s also why we look down at Wazzu and Oregon because they are everything that we aren’t (small bs big town, strong academics vs piss poor, party vs commuter schools, etc)
For those that don’t identify with UW, UW feels as distant to them as Stanford or the Ivy League. It’s not fast vs slow strategy per se, but it’s just different perceptions, etc
The beauty of Pete and OKGs is that it perfectly aligns to what UW is. We’re essentially recruiting individuals that will thrive at UW.
The challenge that Pete will face going forward is how to incorporate guys that don’t look like the cookie cutter OKG but have the elite talent needed to win. And in saying this, that’s not just from a player perspective but what comes with them from a family perspective.
From the sounds of it if you buy the rumors, it sounds like Jr understands what is expected at UW and is aggressively pursuing an offer. You could argue that going to UW may unlock even more potential in Jr as he merged the fast and slow strategy (always best when you combine the best elements of both). But Sr is very clearly fast strategy as fuck and has haterade in his blood. Can Pete and those that help to mitigate these types of situations get Sr to calm down enough for Jr to earn his coveted offer? Or does Sr continue to project and try to live his life through his son like many fathers can fall into a trap of doing?
As with all of this stuff, go too far in one direction and you open yourself up as UW has very likely done at a pretty decent level. On the other, it’s also a strategy that has resulted in strong performance both on/off the field. It’s all about finding that balance and constantly working on strengthening your weakness while highlighting and cultivating its strengths.
So in Seattle, what's the AA university? Ain't like there is some historically black college there. On the East Coast if the elitist, prestigious University won't kiss your ass, you have plenty of options. May not be D1 but you can play football on scholarship with the brothas.
Where the fuck do you go in Seattle for that?
And if Georgetown and Villanova, two schools which believe they are the elitist of the elite, can go get whatever hoops players they want successfully, Washington football can do the same.
I'm not in the know with the local Seattle recruiting scene like some of you, but I have a very hard time believing Petersen wouldn't offer a kid because his dad is a psycho IF the kid has indeed earned it and is receptive to the message the program is preaching.
That would be seriously fucked up and sheepish to not give a life changing offer because of an overbearing family member.
I'm not in the know with the local Seattle recruiting scene like some of you, but I have a very hard time believing Petersen wouldn't offer a kid because his dad is a psycho IF the kid has indeed earned it and is receptive to the message the program is preaching.
That would be seriously fucked up and sheepish to not give a life changing offer because of an overbearing family member.
Pete and staff should relish those opportunities.
One of the things that Coach Pete hates the most is outside distractions. One of the top causes of outside distractions is the media. Putting those two things together and Gee Scott, Sr probably gives Coach Pete nightmares. I'm sure he has had a situation similar to this in his past that he will be leaning on. In my opinion, unless Gee Scott, Jr gets a new dad this weekend, he isn't getting offered this weekend. We are already fully aware of his talent. That won't be changing at the camp today.
I'm not in the know with the local Seattle recruiting scene like some of you, but I have a very hard time believing Petersen wouldn't offer a kid because his dad is a psycho IF the kid has indeed earned it and is receptive to the message the program is preaching.
That would be seriously fucked up and sheepish to not give a life changing offer because of an overbearing family member.
Pete and staff should relish those opportunities.
One of the things that Coach Pete hates the most is outside distractions. One of the top causes of outside distractions is the media. Putting those two things together and Gee Scott, Sr probably gives Coach Pete nightmares. I'm sure he has had a situation similar to this in his past that he will be leaning on. In my opinion, unless Gee Scott, Jr gets a new dad this weekend, he isn't getting offered this weekend. We are already fully aware of his talent. That won't be changing at the camp today.
If Pete hates media distractions so fucking much maybe he should have a job that's not running an enterprise whose entire point is being a fun thing for the public. He should go work for fucking doctors without borders doing actual important work that gets no fucking press instead of acting like he's doing doctors with borders work getting paid 5mil a year and acting like he's changing the fucking world.
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Also Gee Scott: I'm going to name him Gee Scott Jr.
The perception is that UW is elitist and out of touch ...
UW IS ELITIST ... and guess what, THEY SHOULD BE given the quality of the University, it’s standing, etc. As an alum, you should want UW to have a high standing because it has implications on your perceived quality ... the whole guilty by association thing. It’s also why we look down at Wazzu and Oregon because they are everything that we aren’t (small bs big town, strong academics vs piss poor, party vs commuter schools, etc)
For those that don’t identify with UW, UW feels as distant to them as Stanford or the Ivy League. It’s not fast vs slow strategy per se, but it’s just different perceptions, etc
The beauty of Pete and OKGs is that it perfectly aligns to what UW is. We’re essentially recruiting individuals that will thrive at UW.
The challenge that Pete will face going forward is how to incorporate guys that don’t look like the cookie cutter OKG but have the elite talent needed to win. And in saying this, that’s not just from a player perspective but what comes with them from a family perspective.
From the sounds of it if you buy the rumors, it sounds like Jr understands what is expected at UW and is aggressively pursuing an offer. You could argue that going to UW may unlock even more potential in Jr as he merged the fast and slow strategy (always best when you combine the best elements of both). But Sr is very clearly fast strategy as fuck and has haterade in his blood. Can Pete and those that help to mitigate these types of situations get Sr to calm down enough for Jr to earn his coveted offer? Or does Sr continue to project and try to live his life through his son like many fathers can fall into a trap of doing?
As with all of this stuff, go too far in one direction and you open yourself up as UW has very likely done at a pretty decent level. On the other, it’s also a strategy that has resulted in strong performance both on/off the field. It’s all about finding that balance and constantly working on strengthening your weakness while highlighting and cultivating its strengths.
Lots of very successful local African Americans going through the program who seem to be strong supporters of UW.
It seems like Pete's pursuit/fondness for slow strategy white-ish kids has come at the expense of the Heir/Garfield types, or has at least been interpreted that way.
#1 - Gee Scott Sr
#2 Gee Scott Jr
#3-15 Gee's homies who play on his team
list ends there
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True?
Ain't like there is some historically black college there. On the East Coast if the elitist, prestigious University won't kiss your ass, you have plenty of options. May not be D1 but you can play football on scholarship with the brothas.
Where the fuck do you go in Seattle for that?
And if Georgetown and Villanova, two schools which believe they are the elitist of the elite, can go get whatever hoops players they want successfully, Washington football can do the same.
That would be seriously fucked up and sheepish to not give a life changing offer because of an overbearing family member.
Pete and staff should relish those opportunities.
FUCK YOU PETE. GROW UP.