Can any of you fucktards explain how Helfrich sucks as an OC and how Bush is better than him when he's never been an OC at the Power 5 level before? Or is it just because Helfrich is old and white and Bush is young and black-ish?
Bush works with Matt Ryan and he's not a gremlin looking motherfucker.
From UW WR coach to NFL QB coach to UW OC in two years is ridiculous. He was the OC at Davidson a couple years ago. Bush hasn't done shit. Helfrich's resume blows Bush out of the water. Coach Pete is going with the sure thing. Not gambling on a young gun. I love Bush. But I don't love him as our next OC.
Didn’t he gamble on smith in the first place?
And look how that worked out. Smith was trash and got fucked bloody by ASU's defensive coordinator. I don't want some fucking thirty old with hardly any OC experience and experience making in-game adjustments when the opposition's game plan is different than expected. Stop being fucking doogs attracted to the young cool guy. That's some Sark level doogism.
He's not wrong here.
He wants Slingblade
Shit head coach. Good OC and QB coach.
Only a good OC under Chip Kelly, the greatest OC the Pac has seen in decades.
Otherwise, he's sucked.
When has he been a good QB coach other than his time spent under Chip*?
*nttawwt
What the fuck do you think Helfrich was doing as Oregon's OC and QB coach. Just collecting a check while doing nothing. Do you think he had nothing to do with Oregon going to the national championship game when he was head coach. Do you think he had nothing to do with Mariota's development as his QB coach. You're a fucking idiot.
Whatever Chip told him to do.
If Chip's coming too I'm all for hiring the Blade.
Chip wasn't there when Helfrich led them to the natty as head coach bitch. But go ahead and explain how Bush is better dumb ass. Don't worry I'll wait.
Chip wasn't there when Helfrich led them to 4-8, either.
It's almost like the longer Helfrich was away from Chip the worse they got.
Maybe we should hire Larry Coker as OC. He actually won the natty as HC!
Is it wrong that I want a stud recruiter first and foremost?
yes
Coordinators job is to coach first, recruit second.
Offensively, it seems to me like recruiting can be good with or without a great recruiter at OC. But an offense can't be great without a a great OC.
Bingo.
Jonathan Smith was our OC/QB coach and we have Sirmon, BRBYO, and Morris coming in within 12 months of each other.
You can compensate for an OC who can't recruit. You can't compensate for an OC who can't coach.
Obviously I'd love for him to be great at both but most of the best coordinators aren't great recruiters. I want a great coordinator.
I agree with this, the reason I want Bush is because I think he is a coaching star in the making. I would be willing to gamble on him being a good OC too, let alone a good recruiter. The way he came in and elevated our WR play was incredible. I just have a hunch that he is a great fucking coach.
I understand there are other potential hires out there that would be good too, but I love my bush.
Agree, I think Bush can coach. There was definite and immediate improvement in his position while he was here and a clear dropoff when he left, despite being replaced by a good coach.
Is it wrong that I want a stud recruiter first and foremost?
yes
Coordinators job is to coach first, recruit second.
Offensively, it seems to me like recruiting can be good with or without a great recruiter at OC. But an offense can't be great without a a great OC.
Bingo.
Jonathan Smith was our OC/QB coach and we have Sirmon, BRBYO, and Morris coming in within 12 months of each other.
You can compensate for an OC who can't recruit. You can't compensate for an OC who can't coach.
Obviously I'd love for him to be great at both but most of the best coordinators aren't great recruiters. I want a great coordinator.
I agree with this, the reason I want Bush is because I think he is a coaching star in the making. I would be willing to gamble on him being a good OC too, let alone a good recruiter. The way he came in and elevated our WR play was incredible. I just have a hunch that he is a great fucking coach.
I understand there are other potential hires out there that would be good too, but I love my bush.
Agree, I think Bush can coach. There was definite and immediate improvement in his position while he was here and a clear dropoff when he left, despite being replaced by a good coach.
Helps when Ross' return and departure coincides with your tenure. Still think Bush is good, but might be a little inflated.
Ballzdeep, you stupid foul mouthed little fuck face, here's a life lesson for you:. People who are good at stuff tend to be good at other, related stuff. Bush is a good candidate because he's a good coach. Helfrich us a bad candidate because he's a bad coach. These things are established.
UW will be even more pass happy and a bunch of pussies.
Any time a fanbase is telling you to hire their former coach, you can take that as gospel that you don't want them.
I want Bush. Or fucking Mike Bloomgren for fuck's sake. I don't know. I think Pete has upgraded us when he's made new hires and this one should be easy for him to bring Bush back.
Great recruiter, great coach. Exactly what we need.
UW will be even more pass happy and a bunch of pussies.
Didn't Oregon lead the conference in rushing yards when Helfrich was there? Can't even get your own facts right. Would love to beat you with the guy who tanked your program. How much would it piss you off to see Helfrich in UW gear and smiling after calling a 40 point blow out against Oregon as UW's OC.
Ballzdeep, you stupid foul mouthed little fuck face, here's a life lesson for you:. People who are good at stuff tend to be good at other, related stuff. Bush is a good candidate because he's a good coach. Helfrich us a bad candidate because he's a bad coach. These things are established.
Oh yeah Bush was awesome as our WR coach for one year with John Ross yeah lets hire him as our OC with next to no experience yeah that's a good idea. He must be a great OC because he was a great WR coach for us. Stupid doogs.
Ross’s development as a route runner under Bush was uncanny. He went from a guy who could run a fly route and bubble screen to a guy who mastered the whole route tree. Yes Ross was crazy talented but his skills took a significant leap under Bush.
Pettis went from JAG as a sophomore to a star under Bush.
The entire corps went from worthless blockers to good blockers under Bush.
If you can’t see how well he did as a WR coach @GrandpaSankey can’t help you.
Bush would be a risk. He is a super young, fast rising coach though he has a shitload of energy and desire to climb to the top. You already know he brings in a terrific recruiting pedigree. Our receivers production exponentially went up while he was here as well.
Might he stumble a bit as a first time OC? Sure. He is the kind of guy who will stay up until 4 AM crushing caffeine though to figure out why something is not working because of how badly he wants to get to the top. He already has a great relationship with Pete too, saves Pete the stress in figuring this shit out so he can delegate his time elsewhere.
Ballzdeep, you stupid foul mouthed little fuck face, here's a life lesson for you:. People who are good at stuff tend to be good at other, related stuff. Bush is a good candidate because he's a good coach. Helfrich us a bad candidate because he's a bad coach. These things are established.
Oh yeah Bush was awesome as our WR coach for one year with John Ross yeah lets hire him as our OC with next to no experience yeah that's a good idea. He must be a great OC because he was a great WR coach for us. Stupid doogs.
Ross’s development as a route runner under Bush was uncanny. He went from a guy who could run a fly route and bubble screen to a guy who mastered the whole route tree. Yes Ross was crazy talented but his skills took a significant leap under Bush.
Pettis went from JAG as a sophomore to a star under Bush.
The entire corps went from worthless blockers to good blockers under Bush.
If you can’t see how well he did as a WR coach @GrandpaSankey can’t help you.
Let this be the last reply anyone makes to ballzdeep
Ballzdeep, you stupid foul mouthed little fuck face, here's a life lesson for you:. People who are good at stuff tend to be good at other, related stuff. Bush is a good candidate because he's a good coach. Helfrich us a bad candidate because he's a bad coach. These things are established.
Oh yeah Bush was awesome as our WR coach for one year with John Ross yeah lets hire him as our OC with next to no experience yeah that's a good idea. He must be a great OC because he was a great WR coach for us. Stupid doogs.
UW will be even more pass happy and a bunch of pussies.
Didn't Oregon lead the conference in rushing yards when Helfrich was there? Can't even get your own facts right. Would love to beat you with the guy who tanked your program. How much would it piss you off to see Helfrich in UW gear and smiling after calling a 40 point blow out against Oregon as UW's OC.
Ballzdeep, you stupid foul mouthed little fuck face, here's a life lesson for you:. People who are good at stuff tend to be good at other, related stuff. Bush is a good candidate because he's a good coach. Helfrich us a bad candidate because he's a bad coach. These things are established.
Oh yeah Bush was awesome as our WR coach for one year with John Ross yeah lets hire him as our OC with next to no experience yeah that's a good idea. He must be a great OC because he was a great WR coach for us. Stupid doogs.
Ross’s development as a route runner under Bush was uncanny. He went from a guy who could run a fly route and bubble screen to a guy who mastered the whole route tree. Yes Ross was crazy talented but his skills took a significant leap under Bush.
Pettis went from JAG as a sophomore to a star under Bush.
The entire corps went from worthless blockers to good blockers under Bush.
If you can’t see how well he did as a WR coach @GrandpaSankey can’t help you.
Let this be the last reply anyone makes to ballzdeep
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UW will be even more pass happy and a bunch of pussies.
I want Bush. Or fucking Mike Bloomgren for fuck's sake. I don't know. I think Pete has upgraded us when he's made new hires and this one should be easy for him to bring Bush back.
Great recruiter, great coach. Exactly what we need.
Pettis went from JAG as a sophomore to a star under Bush.
The entire corps went from worthless blockers to good blockers under Bush.
If you can’t see how well he did as a WR coach @GrandpaSankey can’t help you.
And @BallzDeep is higher on the spectrum than boobs. I expect this to go 15 pages
Might he stumble a bit as a first time OC? Sure. He is the kind of guy who will stay up until 4 AM crushing caffeine though to figure out why something is not working because of how badly he wants to get to the top. He already has a great relationship with Pete too, saves Pete the stress in figuring this shit out so he can delegate his time elsewhere.
Home run hire and it IS going to happen.
sorry