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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    I don't want any fucking part of the playoff. I hate it on every level. It's stupid and awful.

    Also - I want to be somewhere where we can recruit within 1000 miles of there. Fiesta, Holiday whatever. This team is not going to win a Natty - so let's go max benefit.

    No way man. You're playing to win it all.
    No ribbons. Everything but the playoffs
    is exhibition football.
    This is why the playoff is FS.

    We aren’t winning the playoff shit head. Would you like to one day? Yes, me too.

    As such, we need to recruit about 50% better than we have been.

    Now that we’ve got the right coach, we need the horses.

    Anyone here who thinks we have a shot to win the playoff this year is a fucking moron.

    The main reason we cannot Win the playoff this year is we don’t have the talent. Like it or lump it, it’s the truth.

    For so long around here, the scales got so tilted toward “coaching is all that matters” because when you have shitty coaches, it’s true - it really doesn’t make a fuck bit of difference who you recruit.

    However, when you have the RIGHT coaches (which we overwhelmingly do), it makes all the difference in the world.

    If we had talent closer to USC’s rather than being closer to Iowa’s, we would be the UGA of the West. But as it stands now, we are the Wisconsin of the West because everyone knows that if we run into a top tier talent team, we will get stuffed. Like we did vs USC and Bama last year.

    So while I’m not opposed to cutting my dick off, cut your own shit off if you don’t think that the thing separating us from entering the talent sphere where Clemson is now (which is achievable; we will never be in the same talent tier as Bama or USC) shouldn’t be the top priority of the program.

    I am happy to take bets on our chances at winning the Natty this year... want them? Of course not.

    So, all this shit is just symbolic posturing.
    2022 should be special then. Can't wait. Pretty heavy dooging Dennis.
    WTF? He is enjoying this year and pointing out we can get better, do you disagree?
    He's not enjoying this year. He's saying TSIO.

    I'm saying it doesn't have to be.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,844 Swaye's Wigwam
    Swaye said:

    dnc said:

    UW cannot win the playoff this year. The better scenario is to win out, get left out along with Oklahoma/TCU for Notre Dame, and cause a massive uproar that changes the shitty system.

    There won't be massive uproar if UW gets left out this year. If Notre Dame goes 11-1, they deserve to be in more than Oklahoma, TCU, and UW do.
    Potential 1 loss teams that would get in ahead of a 12-1 UW:

    Bama
    Notre Dame
    Clemson
    Oklahoma/TCU winner
    Georgia

    What we? really need is Wisconsin to get a loss to eliminate the Big, Georgia to drop one before the SEC championship game, and ND to drop one. If those three things happen we're in if we win out. If one of them doesn't, we need the B12 winner to have multiple losses.

    I don't think Miami or Wiscy would get in ahead of UW in potential 1 loss conference championship scenarios, but I'm not confident they wouldn't. That's why Wiscy needs to lose. Miami is losing to Clemson or eliminating Clemson, so they won't really be an issue either way.

    No fuckign way I could all this shit straight. I'm glad smart people post here.
    it is easy - just pick 4 teams ahead of the dawgs in the rankings and say they will make the CFP - me Wisconsin because the Big14 is soooo tuff per ESPN, Bama and Goobers from the SEC because even if one loses they are the best and a Wild Card must be the golden dooms because they have a separate contract with NBC. there the ACC, Big12 and PAC all got left out.
  • LaZoris
    LaZoris Member Posts: 1,734 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2017


    Potential 1 loss teams that would get in ahead of a 12-1 UW:

    Bama
    Notre Dame
    Clemson
    Oklahoma/TCU winner
    Georgia

    What we? really need is Wisconsin to get a loss to eliminate the Big, Georgia to drop one before the SEC championship game, and ND to drop one. If those three things happen we're in if we win out. If one of them doesn't, we need the B12 winner to have multiple losses.

    I don't think Miami or Wiscy would get in ahead of UW in potential 1 loss conference championship scenarios, but I'm not confident they wouldn't. That's why Wiscy needs to lose. Miami is losing to Clemson or eliminating Clemson, so they won't really be an issue either way.


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    Good point on Miami. Their only road to the playoff is beating Clemson in the champ game. The ACC winner gets a slot. We? should be rooting for them to eliminate ND next weekend. Wisky is going to need to win the Big10 to get in as well.
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    1) The playoff is stupid.
    2) We should hope we get in the playoff because that would be best for us.
    3) We're probably not one of the four best teams this year.*


    *replace jsfs and all bets are off. We may be around 4 then
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    dnc said:

    The doog is strong in this thread.

    Inferior teams beat superior teams all the time.

    Remember ASU?

    If you can get into the playoff you get into the playoff. Crazy shit happens.

    Fuck this "we can never beat elite talent because we lost two games to them last year" bullshit.

    Playoff or GTFO, same as it was before the season.

    I can see this.

    OTOH, Bama (who I assume we'd be drawing) doesn't lose.
    Clemson beat them because they had a great team and one of the best college QB of all time.
    Outside of that, it's 30 in a row for them or something insane like that.

    the value in recruiting of making back to back playoffs I feel would be huge tho