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Jeremiah Martin, 2018 4* BUCK, San Bernardino (Cajon), CA (OFFERED 9/27)

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  • animateanimate Member Posts: 4,242
    Where is Greyson Gunheim when you need him?
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,736 Swaye's Wigwam

    Why does this website have the highest expectations about everything in the program, but in recruiting those expectations are just not there?

    I am honestly asking for an answer.
    Because we want to see tryhard whites from our tryhard white high schools play for our daWgs
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,989

    Don't bother. Don't you get it...!?!?! It's no one's fault!!!!!

    The Doog song plays on:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pekhxxngQ3s
    That's a great song ... but I don't picture K playing that song in his reflective moments.

    Snapshot of K's reflective moment ...




    With the following on an endless loop ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdqoNKCCt7A
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,989

    Not this again. Why can’t people be excited about the coming season and still expect more? I will never understand.
    Because if you measure success purely by do you win the National Championship you are bound to be perpetually miserable ...

    The keys to success are, and always will be:

    1) Win the North

    2) Win the PAC12

    3) Make at minimum New Year's 6 Game (bonus points for making CFP)

    4) Win 1st Bowl Game

    5) If in CFP and win Semi ... win National Title

    In 2016 we accomplished 1, 2, and 3 with a star

    In 2017 we accomplished only #3 with no star

    Last year felt like a failure because of those standards

    2016 was a really good year.

    If we're lucky we'll accomplish all 5.

    Accomplishing 1-4 is an excellent year.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,989

    Why does this website have the highest expectations about everything in the program, but in recruiting those expectations are just not there?

    I am honestly asking for an answer.
    What honestly are the expectations?

    We're likely going to end somewhere around Top 15 in the nation and 2nd in the conference in terms of quality. This is a class that you can absolutely win big with and will have a handful of instant difference makers.

    If the thought is that we're going to be a Top 3 or 5 recruiting program in the country, that's just not realistic. I'd love for it to happen. You strive to accomplish it as a stretch goal. But you don't look at a Top 10 or 15 class and act like it sucks because it's not Top 5.

    The recipe at Washington is really simple ...

    Recruit at a comparable level to SC (we'll very rarely ever out-recruit them)

    Beat everybody else in the conference

    Rely on talent evaluation and player development to hold our own against the elite programs

    Have a QB that doesn't have a noodle arm and can take advantage of teams that have elite athletes on defense but are not fundamentally sound
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,989

    One week we have a great class, the next it sucks. One week Bob Gregory needs to be fired, the next we reel in Kaho.

    There was a genuinely serious duscussion about whether we would be better off without Lake because he hadn’t closed on a few guys. Then he gets Gordon and he’s a God again.

    I guess I can’t deal with the ups and downs of recuriting sometimes because it’s fucking stupid.

    I get that it’s for fun, but Fuck, it's just not funny anymore. It's like revenge of the nerds around here. Goes to show 80% of you guys around here are fucking geeks. Post (oh I'm supposed to say 'poast' hee hee) something refreshing. Teen boi to the Seattle storm! Hardy har har. Fucking dweeb round here now. That's what happens when you invite too many dawgmen over. Close the fucking gates Derek.
    Hell must be freezing over when I'm finding myself agreeing with Roadie

    A kid like Kaho we connected with ... he's elite and special. Our job and challenge will be finding more kids like him. Dennis is right that it's harder to find elite slow style kids than fast style kids ... but it's not impossible.

    The Lake discussion to me had everything to do with succession planning and was never about his coaching. If you're thinking strategically, succession planning is a huge issue. If Jimmy Lake isn't being successful in recruiting, then you know something stinks as his track record shows he's a high producer. We found a massively outside of the box solution to the problem and we're going to (hopefully) be better for it over the next few years.

    I honestly don't give 2 shits about whether or not Kwiatkowski can recruit or not. He's a tremendous DC and for coordinators I care only so much about recruiting. At some point, results matter.

    This program is obviously at or near the top of the PAC 12 and there is no reason to believe that it won't continue to stay there. The arguments at this point in the program are about how we can incrementally get better. It's all about optimization.

    Let's be honest, K's not getting fired or moved on from regardless of what he does recruiting unless he does an absolute no show for years and shows up fat, drunk, and stupid unprepared to be a DC. So while we can talk about how it'd sure be nice if he recruited better ... there's nothing to see here because he'll obviously be here on staff mentoring Lake as DC and pick the reigns back up full time once Lake takes a HC somewhere.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,989

    It is a great class that we signed early, it is clearly missing in some spots though. Do you not agree?

    I just want the best of everything, and it’s so weird that so many on this board just don’t feel the same about recruiting and expecting our coaches to be good at it.
    It's a shit year for RBs on the West Coast ... we got a shit RB ... whatever.

    I'm still not convinced that part of the equation as to why we aren't great recruiting OLBs, and particularly massive pass rushers, has something to do with the way we build and play our defense.

    We play a lot more containment in our defense and ask our OLBs to drop into coverage and play in space way more than a lot of other teams. I remember in 2014 and we were asking Kikaha to drop into space a ton people were going ape shit about it. It's something that obviously will be asked of a player at that position in the NFL and we're preparing players for the leap.

    However, to a kid coming out of HS that was a pass rusher there, all they think about is that if they get their 10 sacks a year in college they'll get their 1st round money and then when they get their 10 sacks in the NFL they'll get that massive 2nd check. Problem is few are able to do that. Good luck telling a HS kid that thinks he's elite that that's the case ... particularly if they are of the fast style variety.
  • whlinderwhlinder Member Posts: 5,130 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    I have never hated white people more than right fucking now.
    That's because your memory is shit from booze and cocaine
  • NorwegianHuskyNorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,425
    Tequilla said:

    What I learned in this post ...

    (Violent) Mood Swings with a touch of bipolar = Good

    Reasoning and Patience = Bad
    Am I right to infer you disagree with this? I suppose reasoning, patience and other mental gymnastics/coping mechanisms will serve you well when your wife tells you she wants an open marriage.
  • jhfstyle24jhfstyle24 Member Posts: 3,255
    Tequilla said:

    What I learned in this post ...

    (Violent) Mood Swings with a touch of bipolar = Good

    Reasoning and Patience = Bad
    Is that a Tequilla quintuple post I spy
  • YouNeed2ChillYouNeed2Chill Member Posts: 57
    Nobody wants coach K gone. We just need someone else to recruit OLB’s because he’s fucking terrible at it.

    OLB is the only position besides DT where we just throw out offers to guys not in our natural pipeline. You think we’re gonna land that kid from fucking Kansas that we just offered? There’s basically a negative percent chance that happens.
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