Is Washington a elite program? is the CFB equivalent of Is Joe Flacco a Elite QB?
The only reason we could be considered "elite" is Petermen. His history and success allows that argument to be made. He is at worst the 6th best coach in the country.
We're on a 19-2 run with a conference championship. That's impressive, but schools like VA Tech and Kansas State and Wisconsin do that from time to time when the chips fall right. But without the big-time win during that run we're not there. AZ Duck is right, we need the big Bowl win to claim that.
Wonder how that game would have turned out if that fucktarded play never happened. CHRIST. That mustve been a dagger in the confidence of the entire team, going in to half time no less.
At the bare minimum, losing 17-7 looks a lot better than losing 24-7.
Our defense is good enough to win the title this year. Our offense needs to pound the fucking rock with Gaskin.
Playoffs this year or bust
I'm more traumatized watching that gif than the Russell Wilson Super Bowl interception one.
I remember after the Peach Bowl thinking just like you and wondering "what if". Then my inner-Boobs said, "winners win" and I shut down any alternate reality fantasies for the sake of my mental health.
Hopefully with more appearances in the playoffs picks like that won't derail the teams' confidence as much.
Doesn't count unless you turned to your wife to wonder that aloud.
Hard to get any words out between the drinking and screams of anguish.
Wonder how that game would have turned out if that fucktarded play never happened. CHRIST. That mustve been a dagger in the confidence of the entire team, going in to half time no less.
At the bare minimum, losing 17-7 looks a lot better than losing 24-7.
Our defense is good enough to win the title this year. Our offense needs to pound the fucking rock with Gaskin.
Playoffs this year or bust
I'm more traumatized watching that gif than the Russell Wilson Super Bowl interception one.
I remember after the Peach Bowl thinking just like you and wondering "what if". Then my inner-Boobs said, "winners win" and I shut down any alternate reality fantasies for the sake of my mental health.
Hopefully with more appearances in the playoffs picks like that won't derail the teams' confidence as much.
Doesn't count unless you turned to your wife to wonder that aloud.
Best part of this is imagining @Doog_de_Jour having a wife. Because girl on girl.
We’ve always been an elite program. You can’t build the stadium after a decade of irrelevance and Owen12 without being elite. Petersen is now translating that back onto the field. I have to believe Petersen came to UW knowing that if a shit program could build that stadium, everyone would get out of his way and allow him to build a team to match.
We’ve always been an elite program. You can’t build the stadium after a decade of irrelevance and Owen12 without being elite. Petersen is now translating that back onto the field. I have to believe Petersen came to UW knowing that if a shit program could build that stadium, everyone would get out of his way and allow him to build a team to match.
We’ve always been an elite program. You can’t build the stadium after a decade of irrelevance and Owen12 without being elite. Petersen is now translating that back onto the field. I have to believe Petersen came to UW knowing that if a shit program could build that stadium, everyone would get out of his way and allow him to build a team to match.
Love you, but disagree. We have never been elite. We have been close...80's-mid 90's...few years in the 60's...we are a clear second tier school...nothing wrong with that. Elite is Oklahoma, Ohio State, USC, Bama etc. Blue bloods are elite. Programs like Miami (helluva run over roughly the same time period as ours, and they did way more and still aren't truly elite), Clemson, Oregon (past 20 years), UW, Georgia, UWisc, Tennessee, etc. are second tier schools. Good some of the time, and for long strethces, with maybe a NC or two or a "almost" type year and some big bowl wins. That's second tier.
Elite to me is basically winning NC's across multiple decades for the last 50-60 years. Just a handful of programs like that out there.
We’ve always been an elite program. You can’t build the stadium after a decade of irrelevance and Owen12 without being elite. Petersen is now translating that back onto the field. I have to believe Petersen came to UW knowing that if a shit program could build that stadium, everyone would get out of his way and allow him to build a team to match.
Love you, but disagree. We have never been elite. We have been close...80's-mid 90's...few years in the 60's...we are a clear second tier school...nothing wrong with that. Elite is Oklahoma, Ohio State, USC, Bama etc. Blue bloods are elite. Programs like Miami (helluva run over roughly the same time period as ours, and they did way more and still aren't truly elite), Clemson, Oregon (past 20 years), UW, Georgia, UWisc, Tennessee, etc. are second tier schools. Good some of the time, and for long strethces, with maybe a NC or two or a "almost" type year and some big bowl wins. That's second tier.
Elite to me is basically winning NC's across multiple decades for the last 50-60 years. Just a handful of programs like that out there.
Gil Dobie and I shared a hearty laugh over your post in the media room.
We’ve always been an elite program. You can’t build the stadium after a decade of irrelevance and Owen12 without being elite. Petersen is now translating that back onto the field. I have to believe Petersen came to UW knowing that if a shit program could build that stadium, everyone would get out of his way and allow him to build a team to match.
Love you, but disagree. We have never been elite. We have been close...80's-mid 90's...few years in the 60's...we are a clear second tier school...nothing wrong with that. Elite is Oklahoma, Ohio State, USC, Bama etc. Blue bloods are elite. Programs like Miami (helluva run over roughly the same time period as ours, and they did way more and still aren't truly elite), Clemson, Oregon (past 20 years), UW, Georgia, UWisc, Tennessee, etc. are second tier schools. Good some of the time, and for long strethces, with maybe a NC or two or a "almost" type year and some big bowl wins. That's second tier.
Elite to me is basically winning NC's across multiple decades for the last 50-60 years. Just a handful of programs like that out there.
Gil Dobie and I shared a hearty laugh over your post in the media room.
#9StraightUndefeatedSeasons
I love Gloomy Gil as much as the next guy, but we didn't even get a NC in there. Even if you give that to us, we were good during World War I, then had a small blip for the Cuban Missile Crisis, and good to great again for 10-15 years during Reagan and Bush years. Long periods of suck in there, with roughly a single Rose Bowl a decade. Not elite. Did I just get whooshed by Stalin? You are much smarter than me, so please try not to make the stoopid kid look bad at recess. TIA.
I'd take the top 8 as serious Elite schools, but I could see the argument for including Miami and FSU, I just discounted them because their HUGE amount of success is relatively recent (going back to WWI). To me, 10-25 are second tier, and even though they only went to 15, 16-25 would include schools like UW, Oregon, Clemson, Tennessee, Wisconsin, etc.
We’ve always been an elite program. You can’t build the stadium after a decade of irrelevance and Owen12 without being elite. Petersen is now translating that back onto the field. I have to believe Petersen came to UW knowing that if a shit program could build that stadium, everyone would get out of his way and allow him to build a team to match.
@NEsnake12 said those words in another thread. (Obligatory: Apparently NESnake1-11 were already taken)
But that was the thing that was surreal for me watching Saturday's game. The Colorado game was the first UW game I had watched from start-to-finish all year. And the intensity that Colorado and their fans had to play us seemed weird to me. I read somewhere that the Buffs had focused their entire off-season on us and I was like okay, whatever. But to see them come out so fired up, it almost didn't register. And then UW completely destroyed them on their own field. It was a prison rape type of performance.
One of the TV announcers said "an elite program like Washington..." And I thought, "we've only been elite for one year. Does that make us an OFFICIAL elite program?"
It's going to take a while longer for me to get used to that.
Having Peterman at the throne makes us a good program. It takes consistent winning to be considered an elite.
Agree, and IMO, "elite" is the most abused term in college football. Christ.
The last elite PAC program was USC under Carroll. Elite is rarified air. Elite is expected to win every game regardless of opponent or venue. Alabama is elite this year, and really no one else. I really like what Petersen is doing at UW and am cautiously optimistic that he might get them there, he certainly has them on the right track, they're very good but they're not there yet.
We’ve always been an elite program. You can’t build the stadium after a decade of irrelevance and Owen12 without being elite. Petersen is now translating that back onto the field. I have to believe Petersen came to UW knowing that if a shit program could build that stadium, everyone would get out of his way and allow him to build a team to match.
By those standards fucking POS Texas A&M is elite because they got a nice stadium
I'd take the top 8 as serious Elite schools, but I could see the argument for including Miami and FSU, I just discounted them because their HUGE amount of success is relatively recent (going back to WWI). To me, 10-25 are second tier, and even though they only went to 15, 16-25 would include schools like UW, Oregon, Clemson, Tennessee, Wisconsin, etc.
Agree. We're definitely Tier 2, say, somewhere between 15 and 20 ish. 1984 really fucked us- i.e., having 1.5 natties since 1980 would really boost the resume. Hell, we'd be tied with USC over the same timeframe (sorry 1979 USC...ha, ha)
We’ve always been an elite program. You can’t build the stadium after a decade of irrelevance and Owen12 without being elite. Petersen is now translating that back onto the field. I have to believe Petersen came to UW knowing that if a shit program could build that stadium, everyone would get out of his way and allow him to build a team to match.
Love you, but disagree. We have never been elite. We have been close...80's-mid 90's...few years in the 60's...we are a clear second tier school...nothing wrong with that. Elite is Oklahoma, Ohio State, USC, Bama etc. Blue bloods are elite. Programs like Miami (helluva run over roughly the same time period as ours, and they did way more and still aren't truly elite), Clemson, Oregon (past 20 years), UW, Georgia, UWisc, Tennessee, etc. are second tier schools. Good some of the time, and for long strethces, with maybe a NC or two or a "almost" type year and some big bowl wins. That's second tier.
Elite to me is basically winning NC's across multiple decades for the last 50-60 years. Just a handful of programs like that out there.
We’ve always been an elite program. You can’t build the stadium after a decade of irrelevance and Owen12 without being elite. Petersen is now translating that back onto the field. I have to believe Petersen came to UW knowing that if a shit program could build that stadium, everyone would get out of his way and allow him to build a team to match.
Love you, but disagree. We have never been elite. We have been close...80's-mid 90's...few years in the 60's...we are a clear second tier school...nothing wrong with that. Elite is Oklahoma, Ohio State, USC, Bama etc. Blue bloods are elite. Programs like Miami (helluva run over roughly the same time period as ours, and they did way more and still aren't truly elite), Clemson, Oregon (past 20 years), UW, Georgia, UWisc, Tennessee, etc. are second tier schools. Good some of the time, and for long strethces, with maybe a NC or two or a "almost" type year and some big bowl wins. That's second tier.
Elite to me is basically winning NC's across multiple decades for the last 50-60 years. Just a handful of programs like that out there.
Gil Dobie and I shared a hearty laugh over your post in the media room.
Meh, that's not really an indicator. At one time, when only a few teams were given bowl bids, that mattered, but today, most of those games are consolation prizes.
We’ve always been an elite program. You can’t build the stadium after a decade of irrelevance and Owen12 without being elite. Petersen is now translating that back onto the field. I have to believe Petersen came to UW knowing that if a shit program could build that stadium, everyone would get out of his way and allow him to build a team to match.
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The only reason we could be considered "elite" is Petermen. His history and success allows that argument to be made. He is at worst the 6th best coach in the country.
We're on a 19-2 run with a conference championship. That's impressive, but schools like VA Tech and Kansas State and Wisconsin do that from time to time when the chips fall right.
But without the big-time win during that run we're not there. AZ Duck is right, we need the big Bowl win to claim that.
Elite to me is basically winning NC's across multiple decades for the last 50-60 years. Just a handful of programs like that out there.
#9StraightUndefeatedSeasons
https://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/ranking-the-greatest-college-football-programs-of-all-time.html/?a=viewall
I'd take the top 8 as serious Elite schools, but I could see the argument for including Miami and FSU, I just discounted them because their HUGE amount of success is relatively recent (going back to WWI). To me, 10-25 are second tier, and even though they only went to 15, 16-25 would include schools like UW, Oregon, Clemson, Tennessee, Wisconsin, etc.
The last elite PAC program was USC under Carroll. Elite is rarified air. Elite is expected to win every game regardless of opponent or venue. Alabama is elite this year, and really no one else. I really like what Petersen is doing at UW and am cautiously optimistic that he might get them there, he certainly has them on the right track, they're very good but they're not there yet.
We are below the first tier, but we are in the second tier. That's how we got Pete.
If we had ACTUALLY fallen into the third tier (with teams like Ole Miss and Oklahoma State), there's no way we'd have gotten Pete.