TSiO Episode #35: Preseason Review, Raising the Bar Update, Colorado Preview
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The spinzone for why Bowman is playing is laugh out loud funny but deep down very depressing and sad.
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I hate youDeepSeaZ said:Podacast is tanned, rested, and ready for my flight to Denver tomorrow.
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I love shitty white players that lose their nuts for our progrum.
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DDY's expertise is fortuitous. He had plenty of time to watch & drool over young men on tape while comatose in his body cast. I'll respect his humor and insight, but his man-lust comes effortlessly, being born that way.89ute said:@CokeGreaterThanPepsi thank you for the new site. I enjoy having that info at my fingertips. I really appreciate it and appreciate the work behind it. If those two other slackers helped in any way, thanks to them too.
@Dennis_DeYoung I'm happy you've seen the light on Gary Andersen. Be leery of any DC coming out of Utah under Whitt. Their success as a DC may or may not be of their own merits. (See Kalani Sitake at BYU) Gary had success at Utah St. but not at the level other non-bcs, G5 coaches have had prior to being called up to the bigs.
You guys blew right over Utah during your review. The Utah contingent is nearly 10% of your audience. Hurtful.
Even at that, I enjoyed it.
I was not aware that DDY was not buying into the Cal dumpster fire talk. Good call Dennis. I'm more impressed. I say more because you know a lot of shit and I respect you for that. Teq and Coker do too, but you've got some extra years of wisdom.
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So, lemme get this straight.
Peterman runs a system where the edge guys are basically responsible for holding the edge, maintaining Qb and field control and not allowing big plays?
Thus, the flow of football goes through the meat of the defense where guys who fit the "more position responsible but, at the moment, perhaps less talented ie: BBK" are able to tackle and snuff?
Problem is: we are having a hard time recruiting top-end talent for this Buck position (or is it Defensive Ends? hahahahahaha ... errrr ...) because we don't have the right coach to sell it to kids who may see the position as less glamorous? Can't sell snow to Eskimos?
So, currently we're settling for rare humans with high ceilings instead of the DJ Johnson types?
Damn, we need a Matt Lubick-type to take over Malloe's job stat.
oh, and enjoyed the podcast guys.
When is TSiO going to offer t shirts? Mugs? Onesies? ... Commercialize that shit! Make some money! 12 listeners buying a t shirt or two ... -
To be clear, you'd always rather have that rare human that is athletically superior yet responsible in controlling his responsibilities.
At the same time, there has to be something to the fact that we typically do not allow QBs to break containment of the pocket and create big plays ...
If you go back to the Oregon game in 2015, VAJ's ability to do that largely won the game for Oregon ... I can't really remember a QB effectively doing that to us since (with the possibility of Dawkins last year) -
Listened twice. No longer have any desire to watch UW football.
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Any updates on when TSIO mobile app will be launching? The webpage data gave me a woody but looks like shit on my iPhone.
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You should have a long time Husky fan listen to it to make sure it even has anything to do with Husky FootballGrundleStiltzkin said:Listened twice. No longer have any desire to watch UW football.
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My abilities are limited, we have a ton more data we will be sharing too.YellowSnow said:Any updates on when TSIO mobile app will be launching? The webpage data gave me a woody but looks like shit on my iPhone.
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@Dennis_DeYoung @CokeGreaterThanPepsi @Tequilla Working my way through the poad. Your comment on wilcox was fine. I recall the complaint against Wilcox was more that the Doogs believed we couldn't get anyone better so the dream team was Wilcox, with Tosh and Sirmon and Heyward. I thought Wilcox was a huge improvement at D.C. But, I didn't think he was ready to be Uw Hc at that time. It'd been the same stupid hiring mistake again.
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lets pump the breaks fuckers. Wait 2.5 seasons before we crown his ass. You need more data to make an assessment if he good HCAEB said:@Dennis_DeYoung @CokeGreaterThanPepsi @Tequilla Working my way through the poad. Your comment on wilcox was fine. I recall the complaint against Wilcox was more that the Doogs believed we couldn't get anyone better so the dream team was Wilcox, with Tosh and Sirmon and Heyward. I thought Wilcox was a huge improvement at D.C. But, I didn't think he was ready to be Uw Hc at that time. It'd been the same stupid hiring mistake again.
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WeakarmCobra said:
lets pump the breaks fuckers. Wait 2.5 seasons before we crown his ass. You need more data to make an assessment if he good HCAEB said:@Dennis_DeYoung @CokeGreaterThanPepsi @Tequilla Working my way through the poad. Your comment on wilcox was fine. I recall the complaint against Wilcox was more that the Doogs believed we couldn't get anyone better so the dream team was Wilcox, with Tosh and Sirmon and Heyward. I thought Wilcox was a huge improvement at D.C. But, I didn't think he was ready to be Uw Hc at that time. It'd been the same stupid hiring mistake again.
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When Dennis talked about losing the 2nd half, a kid I went to high school with who played against the UW JV team back in the day said under coach James for every point less than they scored vs. the opponent did in the 4th quarter they had to run a 100 so if they were outscored by 7, they ran it 7 times in a row, etc.
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Finally had time to listen. First thing's first: I'm putting all my savings on Herbert for Heisman now. If it doesn't work out, I'm blaming you Dennis. If it does work out, it will still be underwhelming after I put money on Lamar Jackson last year after week 1 at much higher odds. Basically, either way I hate you Dennis.
On losing the 2nd half: After relaxing my anus a bit, I do think it's nice that we got playing time and experience for some of our back-end scrubs. That being said, I agree with Coker that our 2nd string is bad and we need some of the younger guys to step up for depth. I will LIPO though because in the past years they also gave experience to our worst players in the scrimmages. Justice Warren played in the first two games last year and was basically never heard from again. R.I.P.
Harambe Williams is not playing because we aren't playing undersized Bucks any more (thank god), and Tevis is actually playing well. Presumably they'll rotate him in eventually to get him experience and he'll be rotating with Tevis when Potato Famine O'Briain gradutates, then be the starter when Tevis graduates. Mini-Bowman is actually a decent pass rusher because of his first step and his natural leverage (read: Dwarphism). That does not mean he should be #2 buck, obviously. He should never be in coverage either. The only time he should be on the field is 3 and 8 or longer against a non-mobile QB. I like that the Bowman's are setting a good example for steroid usage, though.
As for the two-back sets, I briefly mentioned how much I love it in the gayme thread. If you want to know what that could look like for us, look at Oklahoma. Even if Babushka's pass-happy play-calling it can work beautifully (see Oklahoma vs. Ohio State). Lincoln Riley is one of my favorite offensive scheme guys and play-callers in football. What he does with Dimitri Flowers (who is barely bigger than Coleman) as an H-back is a thing of beauty. Two-back sets with Coleman as the H-back and Gaskin as the running back needs to be a thing. Also please use Hunter Bryant like they use Mark Andrews, and get our O-linemen on the move (except Sosebee, please release him into the wild). It would help our running game and short passing game tremendously. Browning is Alex Smith, just use him to get the play to our playmakers in space.
I'm gonna stop now before this gets longer than the actual podcast. 90 minutes? You guys are phoning it in. I expect at least 4h 30 next time.
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go to 36:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BOACy7J4yo
there is definitely something to what teq says about our pass rush philosophy. Gaines has a free rush to the QB and just stops. Similarly watch how wide an angle Jaylen takes.
Given this philosophy you can see why we? did so well against hurts. -
I forgot one thing: FUCK Rafi Pounds. He looks like a fucking soccer player, and as your resident Europeein, I should know. Get his soft, highlighted hair, wannabe instagram model ass the fuck away from this program. I'd rather play a freshman. Or Chin.
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Dennis is slightly wrong about UW being 0-3. They are actually 0-0. The first three games were meaningless, except for the fact that Smiff should die.
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It's an interesting idea when you think about it ... contain the QB in the pocket and when he steps up you squeeze him in and send a MLB up to support ... in the process you force the QB to throw in a semi-congested pocket and allows our DBs confidence to play actual routes versus freelanced situations
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Probably our coaches learning a lesson from darnold last season why killed us by extending the play.Tequilla said:It's an interesting idea when you think about it ... contain the QB in the pocket and when he steps up you squeeze him in and send a MLB up to support ... in the process you force the QB to throw in a semi-congested pocket and allows our DBs confidence to play actual routes versus freelanced situations
The downside is that it seems to be a bad natural fit for benning's style. I don't see why we've never tried him as a Michael Bennett inside type on. 3rd downs. -
On situations where one or more front 4 players don't rush, my guess is always been they're assigned to screen/scramble/draw.dhdawg said:go to 36:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BOACy7J4yo
there is definitely something to what teq says about our pass rush philosophy. Gaines has a free rush to the QB and just stops. Similarly watch how wide an angle Jaylen takes.
Given this philosophy you can see why we? did so well against hurts. -
Makes more sense now. I read something that alluded to this from the Atlanta Falcons preseason talk about Elijah Qualls.dhdawg said:go to 36:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BOACy7J4yo
there is definitely something to what teq says about our pass rush philosophy. Gaines has a free rush to the QB and just stops. Similarly watch how wide an angle Jaylen takes.
Given this philosophy you can see why we? did so well against hurts.
http://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/2017/06/30/pass-rusher-coach-chuck-smith-breaks-down-four-eagles-dl-hes-worked-with/4/ -
Yeah I remember seeing that play, I think Greg just thought that was a screen since no one blocked him. If it's too easy it is usually a screen, in that case it was just a blown assignment by the OL and Gaines got confused.dhdawg said:go to 36:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BOACy7J4yo
there is definitely something to what teq says about our pass rush philosophy. Gaines has a free rush to the QB and just stops. Similarly watch how wide an angle Jaylen takes.
Given this philosophy you can see why we? did so well against hurts. -
Part of being elite is doing things differently than everybody else and finding competitive advantages ...
We all know that part of destroying a passing attack is in making the QB uncomfortable ...
We all have largely been brought up with the idea that the best way to do that is through pressuring the QB ...
We have also seen instances throughout the history of football where there have been unique ways employed to disrupt ... the Bills/Giants Super Bowl (SB25) is a famous example where the Giants continuously rushed 2 flooding passing lanes ...
In today's modern football defenses are faced with QBs that are multi talented that can beat you with their arms and feet ... take the Rich Rod special play where they run option action with the QB/RB and still have a WR available as a receiving option ... or take the QB that breaks containment and creates big plays with either his feet/arm ...
It's not that I think that we are against blitzing or pushing up the field ... but I think we are definitely strategic about it ... if we blitz up the middle the edges are containing the escape route ...
It's interesting to me to think about the concept ... on one hand it goes against everything we've ever thought ... on the other the implications are super interesting -
That's all well and good, but we don't need Ryan Bowman doing that.Tequilla said:Part of being elite is doing things differently than everybody else and finding competitive advantages ...
We all know that part of destroying a passing attack is in making the QB uncomfortable ...
We all have largely been brought up with the idea that the best way to do that is through pressuring the QB ...
We have also seen instances throughout the history of football where there have been unique ways employed to disrupt ... the Bills/Giants Super Bowl (SB25) is a famous example where the Giants continuously rushed 2 flooding passing lanes ...
In today's modern football defenses are faced with QBs that are multi talented that can beat you with their arms and feet ... take the Rich Rod special play where they run option action with the QB/RB and still have a WR available as a receiving option ... or take the QB that breaks containment and creates big plays with either his feet/arm ...
It's not that I think that we are against blitzing or pushing up the field ... but I think we are definitely strategic about it ... if we blitz up the middle the edges are containing the escape route ...
It's interesting to me to think about the concept ... on one hand it goes against everything we've ever thought ... on the other the implications are super interesting -
You are missing something key with Bowman. We need him vs Auburn next year. He played at IMG probably on the bottom of the roster but he was there. Now all the kids that beat him go to auburn. So he got that revenge factor going on. No one else on the team has that kind if motivation.
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This is brilliant, hadn't thought of it that way.Bread said:You are missing something key with Bowman. We need him vs Auburn next year. He played at IMG probably on the bottom of the roster but he was there. Now all the kids that beat him go to auburn. So he got that revenge factor going on. No one else on the team has that kind if motivation.
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CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
That's all well and good, but we don't need Ryan Bowman doing that.Tequilla said:Part of being elite is doing things differently than everybody else and finding competitive advantages ...
We all know that part of destroying a passing attack is in making the QB uncomfortable ...
We all have largely been brought up with the idea that the best way to do that is through pressuring the QB ...
We have also seen instances throughout the history of football where there have been unique ways employed to disrupt ... the Bills/Giants Super Bowl (SB25) is a famous example where the Giants continuously rushed 2 flooding passing lanes ...
In today's modern football defenses are faced with QBs that are multi talented that can beat you with their arms and feet ... take the Rich Rod special play where they run option action with the QB/RB and still have a WR available as a receiving option ... or take the QB that breaks containment and creates big plays with either his feet/arm ...
It's not that I think that we are against blitzing or pushing up the field ... but I think we are definitely strategic about it ... if we blitz up the middle the edges are containing the escape route ...
It's interesting to me to think about the concept ... on one hand it goes against everything we've ever thought ... on the other the implications are super interesting
This isn't about Bowman ... fixating on Bowman is getting lost in the details and not seeing the bigger pictureCokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
That's all well and good, but we don't need Ryan Bowman doing that.Tequilla said:Part of being elite is doing things differently than everybody else and finding competitive advantages ...
We all know that part of destroying a passing attack is in making the QB uncomfortable ...
We all have largely been brought up with the idea that the best way to do that is through pressuring the QB ...
We have also seen instances throughout the history of football where there have been unique ways employed to disrupt ... the Bills/Giants Super Bowl (SB25) is a famous example where the Giants continuously rushed 2 flooding passing lanes ...
In today's modern football defenses are faced with QBs that are multi talented that can beat you with their arms and feet ... take the Rich Rod special play where they run option action with the QB/RB and still have a WR available as a receiving option ... or take the QB that breaks containment and creates big plays with either his feet/arm ...
It's not that I think that we are against blitzing or pushing up the field ... but I think we are definitely strategic about it ... if we blitz up the middle the edges are containing the escape route ...
It's interesting to me to think about the concept ... on one hand it goes against everything we've ever thought ... on the other the implications are super interesting -
I'm hearing some of us? out here need to dig deeper out here.Tequilla said:CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
That's all well and good, but we don't need Ryan Bowman doing that.Tequilla said:Part of being elite is doing things differently than everybody else and finding competitive advantages ...
We all know that part of destroying a passing attack is in making the QB uncomfortable ...
We all have largely been brought up with the idea that the best way to do that is through pressuring the QB ...
We have also seen instances throughout the history of football where there have been unique ways employed to disrupt ... the Bills/Giants Super Bowl (SB25) is a famous example where the Giants continuously rushed 2 flooding passing lanes ...
In today's modern football defenses are faced with QBs that are multi talented that can beat you with their arms and feet ... take the Rich Rod special play where they run option action with the QB/RB and still have a WR available as a receiving option ... or take the QB that breaks containment and creates big plays with either his feet/arm ...
It's not that I think that we are against blitzing or pushing up the field ... but I think we are definitely strategic about it ... if we blitz up the middle the edges are containing the escape route ...
It's interesting to me to think about the concept ... on one hand it goes against everything we've ever thought ... on the other the implications are super interesting
This isn't about Bowman ... fixating on Bowman is getting lost in the details and not seeing the bigger pictureCokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
That's all well and good, but we don't need Ryan Bowman doing that.Tequilla said:Part of being elite is doing things differently than everybody else and finding competitive advantages ...
We all know that part of destroying a passing attack is in making the QB uncomfortable ...
We all have largely been brought up with the idea that the best way to do that is through pressuring the QB ...
We have also seen instances throughout the history of football where there have been unique ways employed to disrupt ... the Bills/Giants Super Bowl (SB25) is a famous example where the Giants continuously rushed 2 flooding passing lanes ...
In today's modern football defenses are faced with QBs that are multi talented that can beat you with their arms and feet ... take the Rich Rod special play where they run option action with the QB/RB and still have a WR available as a receiving option ... or take the QB that breaks containment and creates big plays with either his feet/arm ...
It's not that I think that we are against blitzing or pushing up the field ... but I think we are definitely strategic about it ... if we blitz up the middle the edges are containing the escape route ...
It's interesting to me to think about the concept ... on one hand it goes against everything we've ever thought ... on the other the implications are super interesting
