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Kyler Gordon, 2018 4* DB, Everett (Archbishop Murphy), WA (COMMITTED)

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  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    Triple post pumpy special:

    Let's just look at the last supremely talented DB from Everett that chose Notre Dame over UW.

    -Immediately moved from offense to defense despite stated wish to play offense.
    -Suspended for plagiarism.
    -Not drafted until third round despite starting from week 1 of his freshman season for a team that went to the national championship. (Wow, what a great development trajectory)
    -Cut in very first training camp. Highest draft pick to be waived.
    -Now a backup for the Bungles.

    Now compare that to development of Sidney Jones, Budda Baker, Kevin King, Byron Murphy, Jordan Miller, Austin Joyner, Taylor Rapp etc under Jimmy Lake, Kwiatkowski, and Petersen.

    Tough choice.

    Whether or not to play db for uw is not a tough decision right now. The fact that no one wants to is ultimately on lake. That doesn't mean the decision the person and parents are making isn't stupid.
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  • HuskyClawsHuskyClaws Member Posts: 1,170
    Just followed a bunch of ND people on Twitter. He gone.
  • Petersen3098Petersen3098 Member Posts: 365

    Just followed a bunch of ND people on Twitter. He gone.

    He followed those guys a long time ago.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978
    Somebody should be telling him and Irving that practicing day in and day out against running, shitty throwing QBs at ND is no way for a DB to get himself in the league.
  • HuskyClawsHuskyClaws Member Posts: 1,170

    Just followed a bunch of ND people on Twitter. He gone.

    He followed those guys a long time ago.
    He gone a long time ago then.
  • Petersen3098Petersen3098 Member Posts: 365

    Just followed a bunch of ND people on Twitter. He gone.

    He followed those guys a long time ago.
    He gone a long time ago then.
    He also followed a lot of udub guys a long time ago
  • NorwegianHuskyNorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,425
    Was Petersen1-3097 taken?
  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,752 Swaye's Wigwam

    Somebody should be telling him and Irving that practicing day in and day out against running, shitty throwing QBs at ND is no way for a DB to get himself in the league.

    But practicing against Browning is?
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978

    Somebody should be telling him and Irving that practicing day in and day out against running, shitty throwing QBs at ND is no way for a DB to get himself in the league.

    But practicing against Browning is?
    True, but he will be practicing against Sirmon, Yankoff, and Morris.

    It would sucks being a DB playing against option left or option right day in and day out in practice, and then every once in a while seeing some option QB huck a ball downfield and thinking that will help you develop.
  • AF9705AF9705 Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2017

    Somebody should be telling him and Irving that practicing day in and day out against running, shitty throwing QBs at ND is no way for a DB to get himself in the league.

    But practicing against Browning is?
    True, but he will be practicing against Sirmon, Yankoff, and Morris.

    It would sucks being a DB playing against option left or option right day in and day out in practice, and then every once in a while seeing some option QB huck a ball downfield and thinking that will help you develop.
    It’s not 1989, ND doesn’t run the option with an option QB.

    ND runs a RPO offense that has 3 or 4, sometimes 5 wide.

    Kizer obviously wasn’t an option QB, Wimbush isn’t either. Jurkovec, who is coming in, isn’t either.

    And Julian Love, a true sophomore DB, was voted 2nd Team AA by a few services (Freshman AA last year).

    So no, the DBs don’t practice against the option & suffer.
  • whuggywhuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    AF9705 said:

    Somebody should be telling him and Irving that practicing day in and day out against running, shitty throwing QBs at ND is no way for a DB to get himself in the league.

    But practicing against Browning is?
    True, but he will be practicing against Sirmon, Yankoff, and Morris.

    It would sucks being a DB playing against option left or option right day in and day out in practice, and then every once in a while seeing some option QB huck a ball downfield and thinking that will help you develop.
    It’s not 1989, ND doesn’t run the option with an option QB.

    ND runs a RPO offense that has 3 or 4, sometimes 5 wide.

    Kizer obviously wasn’t an option QB, Wimbush isn’t either. Jurkovec, who is coming in, isn’t either.

    And Julian Love, a true sophomore DB, was voted 2nd Team AA by a few services (Freshman AA last year).

    So no, the DBs don’t practice against the option & suffer.
    Please allow us a few straws to cling to.
  • Edwin_BambinoEdwin_Bambino Member Posts: 2,943
    edited December 2017
    AF9705 said:

    Somebody should be telling him and Irving that practicing day in and day out against running, shitty throwing QBs at ND is no way for a DB to get himself in the league.

    But practicing against Browning is?
    True, but he will be practicing against Sirmon, Yankoff, and Morris.

    It would sucks being a DB playing against option left or option right day in and day out in practice, and then every once in a while seeing some option QB huck a ball downfield and thinking that will help you develop.
    It’s not 1989, ND doesn’t run the option with an option QB.

    ND runs a RPO offense that has 3 or 4, sometimes 5 wide.

    Kizer obviously wasn’t an option QB, Wimbush isn’t either. Jurkovec, who is coming in, isn’t either.

    And Julian Love, a true sophomore DB, was voted 2nd Team AA by a few services (Freshman AA last year).

    So no, the DBs don’t practice against the option & suffer.
    Since 2013 Notre Dame has had four DB’s drafted. One in the 7th, two in the 6th, and Kevaire in the 3rd.

    Only Russell lasted more than a year in the league. And he managed to get cut within a year and is a backup. Lyght has been the DB coach since 2015, and before that was in the NFL. He has shown no track record of being able to produce elite DB’s. So yes DB’s do suffer by going to ND, especially when compared with Washington.

    Any DB who is choosing ND over UW is being sold a false bill of goods and is enamored with the brand. Frustrating to see, hopefully some of these kids can see through the ND sales pitch.
  • AF9705AF9705 Member Posts: 181

    AF9705 said:

    Somebody should be telling him and Irving that practicing day in and day out against running, shitty throwing QBs at ND is no way for a DB to get himself in the league.

    But practicing against Browning is?
    True, but he will be practicing against Sirmon, Yankoff, and Morris.

    It would sucks being a DB playing against option left or option right day in and day out in practice, and then every once in a while seeing some option QB huck a ball downfield and thinking that will help you develop.
    It’s not 1989, ND doesn’t run the option with an option QB.

    ND runs a RPO offense that has 3 or 4, sometimes 5 wide.

    Kizer obviously wasn’t an option QB, Wimbush isn’t either. Jurkovec, who is coming in, isn’t either.

    And Julian Love, a true sophomore DB, was voted 2nd Team AA by a few services (Freshman AA last year).

    So no, the DBs don’t practice against the option & suffer.
    Since 2013 Notre Dame has had four DB’s drafted. One in the 7th, two in the 6th, and Kevaire in the 3rd.

    Only Russell lasted more than a year in the league. And he managed to get cut within a year and is a backup. Lyght has been the DB coach since 2015, and before that was in the NFL. He has shown no track record of being able to produce elite DB’s. So yes DB’s do suffer by going to ND, especially when compared with Washington.

    Any DB who is choosing ND over UW is being sold a false bill of goods and is enamored with the brand. Frustrating to see, hopefully some of these kids can see through the ND sales pitch.
    Since the date you mentioned, until this season, there was the BRIAN VAN GORDER factor.
    He had the 3 worst defensive years in ND’s history. His three seasons finished dead last in almost 130 years of football.

    Bringing in Elko, Lea & Lyght moved ND from the bottom third defensively in the nation to the top quarter in the first year.

    Trust me, I watched BVG ruin 5 Star careers. It was sickening. I never call for people to be fired, but I celebrated when he was.
  • RhythmicSlappingDawgRhythmicSlappingDawg Member Posts: 1,176
    It's like -30 in south bend and snowing cow shit in the winter.
  • jhfstyle24jhfstyle24 Member Posts: 3,255

    It's like -30 in south bend and snowing cow shit in the winter.

    He's 17, 17 year olds are dumb
  • RhythmicSlappingDawgRhythmicSlappingDawg Member Posts: 1,176

    It's like -30 in south bend and snowing cow shit in the winter.

    He's 17, 17 year olds are dumb
    We should know that right?

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