Looks like a former Husky Legend made a post on KJV's site today about the Harrison situation ... essentially to paraphrase the whole thing was basically that Harrison sees himself as a WR, we viewed him as a DB, that we agreed to disagree, and that it wasn't because Harrison wasn't OKG.
Here's the thing from my perspective and to further clarify my earlier comments ...
As Vita was so eloquent in explaining during the media days for the Fiesta Bowl things go in order from Team --> Unit --> Me
From the first time I saw Harrison's video, I thought if he embraced it he'd have the potential to have a lengthy career as a DB ... when I saw the video I saw Lawyer Milloy.
As I watched some of his senior video, combined with some comments from @Dennis_DeYoung that were consistent with what I was seeing, you could definitely see a very good option at RB if he was interested in doing that.
However, at WR, I definitely don't see a player better than Spiker/Osborne, better than what we brought in last class, or what we'll bring in in next year's class. In other words, he'd be likely buried in the depth at UW at WR.
Let's be honest for a second here ... if you are going to be a high caliber S, you need to have a certain mindset and toughness to play that position well. If you're going to be a RB, while you get a lot of attention, you have to be prepared to get hit in the process. And with the way teams are utillizing multiple RBs now, the glory gets spread and the hits still keep coming. In contrast, at WR, you have the potential to get all the glory that you get at RB without having to take the same kind of pounding.
He'll end up at Florida St and follow Taggart. Taggart is the ultimate snake oil salesman and him and Oregon were a perfect match for each other. Playing WR in Taggart's offense is like playing a glorified RB. He'll get the ball on WR screens, jet sweeps, etc. without having to take the pounding between the tackles. Whether he has a strong college career or not (and particularly going to FSU, I suspect his potential to be buried in the depth will only increase), playing WR IMO is his worst shot to potentially play in the NFL. But that's fine.
The reason that I compared Harrison to guys like Wroten, etc. to recently come out of Seattle is because the common trait that I see is a lot of the guys have looked to take the easiest path possible in the short-term while ultimately penalizing themselves in the long-term.
This isn't an example of where I really blame Petersen for not landing Harrison. Bringing him in at WR will not make us a better football team comparatively to what we can and will get going forward. At RB, there was probably room for a discussion but Harrison wasn't interested. At S he would have been best served long-term but again wasn't interested. To be an elite team you need guys on the roster that are willing to live by the mantra of Team --> Unit --> Me ... and given how Harrison has gone about his recruitment (which he is more than entitled to do), we're not a good fit for him.
Best of luck to him going forward ... but I personally don't think we'll miss him.
Looks like a former Husky Legend made a post on KJV's site today about the Harrison situation ... essentially to paraphrase the whole thing was basically that Harrison sees himself as a WR, we viewed him as a DB, that we agreed to disagree, and that it wasn't because Harrison wasn't OKG.
Here's the thing from my perspective and to further clarify my earlier comments ...
As Vita was so eloquent in explaining during the media days for the Fiesta Bowl things go in order from Team --> Unit --> Me
From the first time I saw Harrison's video, I thought if he embraced it he'd have the potential to have a lengthy career as a DB ... when I saw the video I saw Lawyer Milloy.
As I watched some of his senior video, combined with some comments from @Dennis_DeYoung that were consistent with what I was seeing, you could definitely see a very good option at RB if he was interested in doing that.
However, at WR, I definitely don't see a player better than Spiker/Osborne, better than what we brought in last class, or what we'll bring in in next year's class. In other words, he'd be likely buried in the depth at UW at WR.
Let's be honest for a second here ... if you are going to be a high caliber S, you need to have a certain mindset and toughness to play that position well. If you're going to be a RB, while you get a lot of attention, you have to be prepared to get hit in the process. And with the way teams are utillizing multiple RBs now, the glory gets spread and the hits still keep coming. In contrast, at WR, you have the potential to get all the glory that you get at RB without having to take the same kind of pounding.
He'll end up at Florida St and follow Taggart. Taggart is the ultimate snake oil salesman and him and Oregon were a perfect match for each other. Playing WR in Taggart's offense is like playing a glorified RB. He'll get the ball on WR screens, jet sweeps, etc. without having to take the pounding between the tackles. Whether he has a strong college career or not (and particularly going to FSU, I suspect his potential to be buried in the depth will only increase), playing WR IMO is his worst shot to potentially play in the NFL. But that's fine.
The reason that I compared Harrison to guys like Wroten, etc. to recently come out of Seattle is because the common trait that I see is a lot of the guys have looked to take the easiest path possible in the short-term while ultimately penalizing themselves in the long-term.
This isn't an example of where I really blame Petersen for not landing Harrison. Bringing him in at WR will not make us a better football team comparatively to what we can and will get going forward. At RB, there was probably room for a discussion but Harrison wasn't interested. At S he would have been best served long-term but again wasn't interested. To be an elite team you need guys on the roster that are willing to live by the mantra of Team --> Unit --> Me ... and given how Harrison has gone about his recruitment (which he is more than entitled to do), we're not a good fit for him.
Best of luck to him going forward ... but I personally don't think we'll miss him.
Corey Dillon was playing Safety until Shehee got hurt. Just Sayin
I’m pissed we aren’t getting Harrison. He’s a dynamic player. He’s a 4.4 guy with size. I think his upside is higher than Spiker’s although we should have really targeted Harrison at RB.
I don’t live in a world where Harrison has a higher upside than Spiker at WR. Spiker is elite. Harrison is good, but not elite at WR. Plus we have Joe Ngata on his way, hopefully, who literally walks on water and turns that water into wine, then urinates that wine into the cum guzzler DBs who can’t guard him.
I probably like Spiker less than most here. He’s good. He’s not fast though. He reminds me of the USC 4 and 5 Star WR’s like Ausberry and Brice Butler. They both made the NFL, but were merely solid players in college.
I’m pissed we aren’t getting Harrison. He’s a dynamic player. He’s a 4.4 guy with size. I think his upside is higher than Spiker’s although we should have really targeted Harrison at RB.
Which likely wouldn't have mattered because he wants to play WR
I’m pissed we aren’t getting Harrison. He’s a dynamic player. He’s a 4.4 guy with size. I think his upside is higher than Spiker’s although we should have really targeted Harrison at RB.
I don’t live in a world where Harrison has a higher upside than Spiker at WR. Spiker is elite. Harrison is good, but not elite at WR. Plus we have Joe Ngata on his way, hopefully, who literally walks on water and turns that water into wine, then urinates that wine into the cum guzzler DBs who can’t guard him.
I probably like Spiker less than most here. He’s good. He’s not fast though. He reminds me of the USC 4 and 5 Star WR’s like Ausberry and Brice Butler. They both made the NFL, but were merely solid players in college.
Best case scenario for your opinion is as follows:
Spiker is close to maximizing his potential but is at worst going to be a very solid college WR ... he's likely got a relatively smaller range of volatility to his career ...
Harrison at best if everything goes right reaches a ceiling that Spiker doesn't reach ... however, the floor is that he is just a guy with a lot of athletic ability that never really learns the nuances of playing WR ... high volatility guy
You're all stupid. Tre'Shaun is an in-state dynamic athlete with decent size who can be great at RB or safety, and he goes to a school that produces a decent amount of good players and is home to the top 2020 kid in state. Want.
You're all stupid. Tre'Shaun is an in-state dynamic athlete with decent size who can be great at RB or safety, and he goes to a school that produces a decent amount of good players and is home to the top 2020 kid in state. Want.
You're all stupid. Tre'Shaun is an in-state dynamic athlete with decent size who can be great at RB or safety, and he goes to a school that produces a decent amount of good players and is home to the top 2020 kid in state. Want.
Agree 100% with all of this ...
If Harrison wanted to be a RB or a S ... he's at UW ... no doubt about that.
But he wants to be a WR ... which there isn't a spot for him at UW ...
Looks like a former Husky Legend made a post on KJV's site today about the Harrison situation ... essentially to paraphrase the whole thing was basically that Harrison sees himself as a WR, we viewed him as a DB, that we agreed to disagree, and that it wasn't because Harrison wasn't OKG.
Here's the thing from my perspective and to further clarify my earlier comments ...
As Vita was so eloquent in explaining during the media days for the Fiesta Bowl things go in order from Team --> Unit --> Me
From the first time I saw Harrison's video, I thought if he embraced it he'd have the potential to have a lengthy career as a DB ... when I saw the video I saw Lawyer Milloy.
As I watched some of his senior video, combined with some comments from @Dennis_DeYoung that were consistent with what I was seeing, you could definitely see a very good option at RB if he was interested in doing that.
However, at WR, I definitely don't see a player better than Spiker/Osborne, better than what we brought in last class, or what we'll bring in in next year's class. In other words, he'd be likely buried in the depth at UW at WR.
Let's be honest for a second here ... if you are going to be a high caliber S, you need to have a certain mindset and toughness to play that position well. If you're going to be a RB, while you get a lot of attention, you have to be prepared to get hit in the process. And with the way teams are utillizing multiple RBs now, the glory gets spread and the hits still keep coming. In contrast, at WR, you have the potential to get all the glory that you get at RB without having to take the same kind of pounding.
He'll end up at Florida St and follow Taggart. Taggart is the ultimate snake oil salesman and him and Oregon were a perfect match for each other. Playing WR in Taggart's offense is like playing a glorified RB. He'll get the ball on WR screens, jet sweeps, etc. without having to take the pounding between the tackles. Whether he has a strong college career or not (and particularly going to FSU, I suspect his potential to be buried in the depth will only increase), playing WR IMO is his worst shot to potentially play in the NFL. But that's fine.
The reason that I compared Harrison to guys like Wroten, etc. to recently come out of Seattle is because the common trait that I see is a lot of the guys have looked to take the easiest path possible in the short-term while ultimately penalizing themselves in the long-term.
This isn't an example of where I really blame Petersen for not landing Harrison. Bringing him in at WR will not make us a better football team comparatively to what we can and will get going forward. At RB, there was probably room for a discussion but Harrison wasn't interested. At S he would have been best served long-term but again wasn't interested. To be an elite team you need guys on the roster that are willing to live by the mantra of Team --> Unit --> Me ... and given how Harrison has gone about his recruitment (which he is more than entitled to do), we're not a good fit for him.
Best of luck to him going forward ... but I personally don't think we'll miss him.
i don't know. I will tell the kid hey we will give you a shot at WR but if you don't crack 2 deep we moving you DB
This kid is way too fucking good to lose over something as trivial as where he will play. Get him in and let his position play the fuck out. He, like most teenagers, will likely have an entirely diff view of his world after a year in college.
If a hometown kid of his stature is lost because of where we wanted him to play then we don't deserve to get over the hump vs USC, Stanford, Bama, Penn St, etc.
Corey Dillon was playing Safety until Shehee got hurt. Just Sayin
Is this true?
No but dont let it stand in the way of a good story.
Yup it’s true ask @RaceBannon . Shehee was the starter , Dillon was playing safety.
Were you even alive that season? Tell me about all the reps that Dillon took against asu and BYU at safety. That never happened. He was the back up tailback. Check the box scores and you will see he had carries before taking over vs Arizona.
Looks like a former Husky Legend made a post on KJV's site today about the Harrison situation ... essentially to paraphrase the whole thing was basically that Harrison sees himself as a WR, we viewed him as a DB, that we agreed to disagree, and that it wasn't because Harrison wasn't OKG.
Here's the thing from my perspective and to further clarify my earlier comments ...
As Vita was so eloquent in explaining during the media days for the Fiesta Bowl things go in order from Team --> Unit --> Me
From the first time I saw Harrison's video, I thought if he embraced it he'd have the potential to have a lengthy career as a DB ... when I saw the video I saw Lawyer Milloy.
As I watched some of his senior video, combined with some comments from @Dennis_DeYoung that were consistent with what I was seeing, you could definitely see a very good option at RB if he was interested in doing that.
However, at WR, I definitely don't see a player better than Spiker/Osborne, better than what we brought in last class, or what we'll bring in in next year's class. In other words, he'd be likely buried in the depth at UW at WR.
Let's be honest for a second here ... if you are going to be a high caliber S, you need to have a certain mindset and toughness to play that position well. If you're going to be a RB, while you get a lot of attention, you have to be prepared to get hit in the process. And with the way teams are utillizing multiple RBs now, the glory gets spread and the hits still keep coming. In contrast, at WR, you have the potential to get all the glory that you get at RB without having to take the same kind of pounding.
He'll end up at Florida St and follow Taggart. Taggart is the ultimate snake oil salesman and him and Oregon were a perfect match for each other. Playing WR in Taggart's offense is like playing a glorified RB. He'll get the ball on WR screens, jet sweeps, etc. without having to take the pounding between the tackles. Whether he has a strong college career or not (and particularly going to FSU, I suspect his potential to be buried in the depth will only increase), playing WR IMO is his worst shot to potentially play in the NFL. But that's fine.
The reason that I compared Harrison to guys like Wroten, etc. to recently come out of Seattle is because the common trait that I see is a lot of the guys have looked to take the easiest path possible in the short-term while ultimately penalizing themselves in the long-term.
This isn't an example of where I really blame Petersen for not landing Harrison. Bringing him in at WR will not make us a better football team comparatively to what we can and will get going forward. At RB, there was probably room for a discussion but Harrison wasn't interested. At S he would have been best served long-term but again wasn't interested. To be an elite team you need guys on the roster that are willing to live by the mantra of Team --> Unit --> Me ... and given how Harrison has gone about his recruitment (which he is more than entitled to do), we're not a good fit for him.
Best of luck to him going forward ... but I personally don't think we'll miss him.
What a load of Stephen A. Bullshit. Who the hell knows what the mindset of Harrison is, what his "toughness" is, or what he truly values out of playing football. You sure as fuck don't. Maybe he wants to play WR because he's a pansy. Or maybe he actually thinks he has the skillset to succeed at that position. But your 5000 words of nonsense don't add anything to the conversation besides adding yet another chapter of your vintage shooting from the hip bullshit.
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Spiker is close to maximizing his potential but is at worst going to be a very solid college WR ... he's likely got a relatively smaller range of volatility to his career ...
Harrison at best if everything goes right reaches a ceiling that Spiker doesn't reach ... however, the floor is that he is just a guy with a lot of athletic ability that never really learns the nuances of playing WR ... high volatility guy
If Harrison wanted to be a RB or a S ... he's at UW ... no doubt about that.
But he wants to be a WR ... which there isn't a spot for him at UW ...
Corey Dillon was playing Safety until Shehee got hurt. Just Sayin
Is this true?
No but dont let it stand in the way of a good story.
If a hometown kid of his stature is lost because of where we wanted him to play then we don't deserve to get over the hump vs USC, Stanford, Bama, Penn St, etc.
Yup it’s true ask @RaceBannon . Shehee was the starter , Dillon was playing safety.
To be fair, it made some sense in that we had Shehee who was already established. But CD was not interested and came here to play RB.
Shehee got injured and he took over.
Shehee was good, but Corey is better than literally every other RB we’ve ever had... so...
Were you even alive that season? Tell me about all the reps that Dillon took against asu and BYU at safety. That never happened. He was the back up tailback. Check the box scores and you will see he had carries before taking over vs Arizona.