Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd Evan Spencer- 6th
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFL
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.
*One hit wonder*
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
He still not top-5, I'd prefer
Julio Jones Odell Beckham Jr Antonio Brown T.Y. Hilton Tyler Lockett
Over him.
LOL, you can never take an L. Tyler Lockett and TY are comical.
If you add up Odell's stats from 2017 and 2018 he still has less yards, catches, and only one more TD than Thomas had this year. Odell has played more than 12 games 2 out of 5 years. If you are trying to make it somewhat of an argument at least throw in DeAndre Hopkins and Devante Adams.
Thomas is likely 3rd or 4th behind Julio, Hopkins, and maybe Brown this year. Odell is probably 5th. If they all hit free agency right now Hopkins and Thomas would be the highest paid.
Russell Wilson had a perfect passer rating when throwing to Tyler Lockett. Wilson had the least pass attempts of his career.If the Seahawks had more of a pass oriented offense like the Saints do, Lockett would have led the league is receiving. Plus, what he can do as a return man makes him far more valuable than Thomas. He's a game changer as a return man.
Odell has been playing with trash ass Eli Manning his whole career. Give him Drew Brees to work with and he's put up way bigger numbers.
I like TY Hilton. He's explosive and a baller.
You're right Deandre Hopkins is for sure in the top-5 ahead of Thomas. Forgot about him. He might be the second best WR in the league.
Thomas ain't top-5. He's the product of Drew Brees and a pass happy offense.
Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd Evan Spencer- 6th
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFL
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.
*One hit wonder*
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
He still not top-5, I'd prefer
Julio Jones Odell Beckham Jr Antonio Brown T.Y. Hilton Tyler Lockett
Over him.
TY Hilton?
GTFOH
Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.
THE FUCK
Also like how you are anti one hit wonder but have Tyler Lockett in your top 5 receivers.
Your consistency is only outpaced by your analysis.
Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd Evan Spencer- 6th
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFL
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.
*One hit wonder*
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
He still not top-5, I'd prefer
Julio Jones Odell Beckham Jr Antonio Brown T.Y. Hilton Tyler Lockett
Over him.
LOL, you can never take an L. Tyler Lockett and TY are comical.
If you add up Odell's stats from 2017 and 2018 he still has less yards, catches, and only one more TD than Thomas had this year. Odell has played more than 12 games 2 out of 5 years. If you are trying to make it somewhat of an argument at least throw in DeAndre Hopkins and Devante Adams.
Thomas is likely 3rd or 4th behind Julio, Hopkins, and maybe Brown this year. Odell is probably 5th. If they all hit free agency right now Hopkins and Thomas would be the highest paid.
Russell Wilson had a perfect passer rating when throwing to Tyler Lockett. Wilson had the least pass attempts of his career.If the Seahawks had more of a pass oriented offense like the Saints do, Lockett would have led the league is receiving. Plus, what he can do as a return man makes him far more valuable than Thomas. He's a game changer as a return man.
Odell has been playing with trash ass Eli Manning his whole career. Give him Drew Brees to work with and he's put up way bigger numbers.
I like TY Hilton. He's explosive and a baller.
You're right Deandre Hopkins is for sure in the top-5 ahead of Thomas. Forgot about him. He might be the second best WR in the league.
Thomas ain't top-5. He's the product of Drew Brees and a pass happy offense.
I know that you know you can't extrapolate like that. The reason Wilson to Lockett was such a valuable connection was precisely BECAUSE Wilson didn't throw it to Lockett very often.
Otherwise shouldn't we be firing the Seahawks entire offensive staff for not throwing the ball to Lockett on every single down? The Seahawks would have been the greatest offense of all time!
Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd Evan Spencer- 6th
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFL
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.
*One hit wonder*
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
He still not top-5, I'd prefer
Julio Jones Odell Beckham Jr Antonio Brown T.Y. Hilton Tyler Lockett
Over him.
LOL, you can never take an L. Tyler Lockett and TY are comical.
If you add up Odell's stats from 2017 and 2018 he still has less yards, catches, and only one more TD than Thomas had this year. Odell has played more than 12 games 2 out of 5 years. If you are trying to make it somewhat of an argument at least throw in DeAndre Hopkins and Devante Adams.
Thomas is likely 3rd or 4th behind Julio, Hopkins, and maybe Brown this year. Odell is probably 5th. If they all hit free agency right now Hopkins and Thomas would be the highest paid.
Russell Wilson had a perfect passer rating when throwing to Tyler Lockett. Wilson had the least pass attempts of his career.If the Seahawks had more of a pass oriented offense like the Saints do, Lockett would have led the league is receiving. Plus, what he can do as a return man makes him far more valuable than Thomas. He's a game changer as a return man.
Odell has been playing with trash ass Eli Manning his whole career. Give him Drew Brees to work with and he's put up way bigger numbers.
I like TY Hilton. He's explosive and a baller.
You're right Deandre Hopkins is for sure in the top-5 ahead of Thomas. Forgot about him. He might be the second best WR in the league.
Thomas ain't top-5. He's the product of Drew Brees and a pass happy offense.
Let's test this theory out. We'll assume that Lockett's efficiency would remain the same over more passes, which is far from guaranteed, but we'll be generous and go with it.
Russ threw 427 passes this year. Brees threw 489, so 62 more.
Russ targeted Lockett 70 times on his 427 throws, or once every 6.1 attempts. With 62 more passes, that gives Lockett 10 more targets.
Lockett caught 57 of his 70 targets, or 81% of them. 81% of 10 targets gives him 8 more catches.
Would 65 receptions have lead the league? No.
It would have put him just 60 receptions behind Thomas though.
Lockett turned his 70 targets into 965 yards, or 13.8 yards per target (rounding up). Give him another 10 targets and that gets him to 1103 yards.
Would 1103 yards have lead the league? No.
It would have put him just 302 yards because Michael Thomas though.
Conclusion: What can I say, when I'm wrong I'm wrong. Tyler Lockett is better than Michael Thomas and would lead the league in receiving if the Seahawks threw as often as New Orleans.
Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd Evan Spencer- 6th
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFL
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.
*One hit wonder*
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
He still not top-5, I'd prefer
Julio Jones Odell Beckham Jr Antonio Brown T.Y. Hilton Tyler Lockett
Over him.
LOL, you can never take an L. Tyler Lockett and TY are comical.
If you add up Odell's stats from 2017 and 2018 he still has less yards, catches, and only one more TD than Thomas had this year. Odell has played more than 12 games 2 out of 5 years. If you are trying to make it somewhat of an argument at least throw in DeAndre Hopkins and Devante Adams.
Thomas is likely 3rd or 4th behind Julio, Hopkins, and maybe Brown this year. Odell is probably 5th. If they all hit free agency right now Hopkins and Thomas would be the highest paid.
Russell Wilson had a perfect passer rating when throwing to Tyler Lockett. Wilson had the least pass attempts of his career.If the Seahawks had more of a pass oriented offense like the Saints do, Lockett would have led the league is receiving. Plus, what he can do as a return man makes him far more valuable than Thomas. He's a game changer as a return man.
Odell has been playing with trash ass Eli Manning his whole career. Give him Drew Brees to work with and he's put up way bigger numbers.
I like TY Hilton. He's explosive and a baller.
You're right Deandre Hopkins is for sure in the top-5 ahead of Thomas. Forgot about him. He might be the second best WR in the league.
Thomas ain't top-5. He's the product of Drew Brees and a pass happy offense.
I know that you know you can't extrapolate like that. The reason Wilson to Lockett was such a valuable connection was precisely BECAUSE Wilson didn't throw it to Lockett very often.
Otherwise shouldn't we be firing the Seahawks entire offensive staff for not throwing the ball to Lockett on every single down? The Seahawks would have been the greatest offense of all time!
In defense of Ballz, I'm all for firing the entire Seahawks offensive staff.
One last comment on this: The Saints don't have a pass happy offense. DoogBallz is living Deep in the past. New Orleans was the #23 offense in pass attempts with 519 this year, easily in the bottom third. By comparison let's look at the Ballz top 5 wideouts.
Julio Jones - Atlanta threw 617 times (#5) OBJ - New York threw 583 times (#9) Brown - Pittsburgh threw 689 times (#1) Hilton - Indianapolis threw 644 times (#2) Lockett - Seattle threw 427 times (#32) (discussed above) *Landry - Cleveland threw 574 times (#11)
Thomas's numbers are not because of a pass happy offense. They're because he's a fucking stud.
Ballz claims efficiency defines a great receiver while he ranks at least 6 receivers ahead of Michael Thomas.
Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones 2. Deandre Hopkins 3. Antonio Brown 4. Odell Beckham Jr. 5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones 2. Deandre Hopkins 3. Antonio Brown 4. Odell Beckham Jr. 5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
That's your hypothesis, it's on you to back it up.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once.
Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones 2. Deandre Hopkins 3. Antonio Brown 4. Odell Beckham Jr. 5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
That's your hypothesis, it's on you to back it up.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once.
The claim you made about Thomas was in an attempt to prove that Ohio State wide receivers have not underachieved based on their rankings. Thomas alone is not enough to prove that. That is one data point while ignoring the rest. The burden is on you. I'm waiting.
Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones 2. Deandre Hopkins 3. Antonio Brown 4. Odell Beckham Jr. 5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
That's your hypothesis, it's on you to back it up.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once.
The claim you made about Thomas was in an attempt to prove that Ohio State wide receivers have not underachieved based on their rankings. Thomas alone is not enough to prove that. That is one data point while ignoring the rest. The burden is on you. I'm waiting.
The burden is not on me to prove your unproven claim wrong, that's not how it works.
Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones 2. Deandre Hopkins 3. Antonio Brown 4. Odell Beckham Jr. 5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
That's your hypothesis, it's on you to back it up.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once.
The claim you made about Thomas was in an attempt to prove that Ohio State wide receivers have not underachieved based on their rankings. Thomas alone is not enough to prove that. That is one data point while ignoring the rest. The burden is on you. I'm waiting.
The burden is not on me to prove your unproven claim wrong, that's not how it works.
Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones 2. Deandre Hopkins 3. Antonio Brown 4. Odell Beckham Jr. 5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
That's your hypothesis, it's on you to back it up.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once.
The claim you made about Thomas was in an attempt to prove that Ohio State wide receivers have not underachieved based on their rankings. Thomas alone is not enough to prove that. That is one data point while ignoring the rest. The burden is on you. I'm waiting.
This isn't even true, not that I should be surprised. My post was in response to @FremontTroll's response to your claim that "OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should". His post debunked your unfounded claim with listing 7 receivers picked in 5 years. I didn't need to prove your claim wrong and wasn't trying to prove it wrong (since it was already done) I simply added that Thomas is top 5 to illustrate that, not only do they have quantity, they have quality as well.
tOSU is right there with the top schools in the country at putting WR's in the NFL numerically, and in the last four years they have produced one of the best 5 receivers in the league as well.
There is simply no way to paint tOSU as some kind of failure at putting out receivers in any land but Ballz Land.
Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones 2. Deandre Hopkins 3. Antonio Brown 4. Odell Beckham Jr. 5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
That's your hypothesis, it's on you to back it up.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once.
The claim you made about Thomas was in an attempt to prove that Ohio State wide receivers have not underachieved based on their rankings. Thomas alone is not enough to prove that. That is one data point while ignoring the rest. The burden is on you. I'm waiting.
This isn't even true, not that I should be surprised. My post was in response to @FremontTroll's response to your claim that "OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should". His post debunked your unfounded claim with listing 7 receivers picked in 5 years. I didn't need to prove your claim wrong and wasn't trying to prove it wrong (since it was already done) I simply added that Thomas is top 5 to illustrate that, not only do they have quantity, they have quality as well.
tOSU is right there with the top schools in the country at putting WR's in the NFL numerically, and in the last four years they have produced one of the best 5 receivers in the league as well.
There is simply no way to paint tOSU as some kind of failure at putting out receivers in any land but Ballz Land.
You're wrong. Again.
Oh so you're saying you were just arguing semantics on a tangent. You lose again.
Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones 2. Deandre Hopkins 3. Antonio Brown 4. Odell Beckham Jr. 5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
That's your hypothesis, it's on you to back it up.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once.
The claim you made about Thomas was in an attempt to prove that Ohio State wide receivers have not underachieved based on their rankings. Thomas alone is not enough to prove that. That is one data point while ignoring the rest. The burden is on you. I'm waiting.
This isn't even true, not that I should be surprised. My post was in response to @FremontTroll's response to your claim that "OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should". His post debunked your unfounded claim with listing 7 receivers picked in 5 years. I didn't need to prove your claim wrong and wasn't trying to prove it wrong (since it was already done) I simply added that Thomas is top 5 to illustrate that, not only do they have quantity, they have quality as well.
tOSU is right there with the top schools in the country at putting WR's in the NFL numerically, and in the last four years they have produced one of the best 5 receivers in the league as well.
There is simply no way to paint tOSU as some kind of failure at putting out receivers in any land but Ballz Land.
You're wrong. Again.
Oh so you're saying you were just arguing semantics on a tangent. You lose again.
Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones 2. Deandre Hopkins 3. Antonio Brown 4. Odell Beckham Jr. 5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
That's your hypothesis, it's on you to back it up.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once.
The claim you made about Thomas was in an attempt to prove that Ohio State wide receivers have not underachieved based on their rankings. Thomas alone is not enough to prove that. That is one data point while ignoring the rest. The burden is on you. I'm waiting.
This isn't even true, not that I should be surprised. My post was in response to @FremontTroll's response to your claim that "OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should". His post debunked your unfounded claim with listing 7 receivers picked in 5 years. I didn't need to prove your claim wrong and wasn't trying to prove it wrong (since it was already done) I simply added that Thomas is top 5 to illustrate that, not only do they have quantity, they have quality as well.
tOSU is right there with the top schools in the country at putting WR's in the NFL numerically, and in the last four years they have produced one of the best 5 receivers in the league as well.
There is simply no way to paint tOSU as some kind of failure at putting out receivers in any land but Ballz Land.
You're wrong. Again.
Oh so you're saying you were just arguing semantics on a tangent. You lose again.
Frozen or evaporated water isn't water. I don't call them water. I don't care what grade school chemistry says about three states of matter. What counts is that it's not called water. It's called ice.
Comments
Odell has been playing with trash ass Eli Manning his whole career. Give him Drew Brees to work with and he's put up way bigger numbers.
I like TY Hilton. He's explosive and a baller.
You're right Deandre Hopkins is for sure in the top-5 ahead of Thomas. Forgot about him. He might be the second best WR in the league.
Thomas ain't top-5. He's the product of Drew Brees and a pass happy offense.
Also like how you are anti one hit wonder but have Tyler Lockett in your top 5 receivers.
Your consistency is only outpaced by your analysis.
Kudos.
Otherwise shouldn't we be firing the Seahawks entire offensive staff for not throwing the ball to Lockett on every single down? The Seahawks would have been the greatest offense of all time!
Russ threw 427 passes this year. Brees threw 489, so 62 more.
Russ targeted Lockett 70 times on his 427 throws, or once every 6.1 attempts. With 62 more passes, that gives Lockett 10 more targets.
Lockett caught 57 of his 70 targets, or 81% of them. 81% of 10 targets gives him 8 more catches.
Would 65 receptions have lead the league? No.
It would have put him just 60 receptions behind Thomas though.
Lockett turned his 70 targets into 965 yards, or 13.8 yards per target (rounding up). Give him another 10 targets and that gets him to 1103 yards.
Would 1103 yards have lead the league? No.
It would have put him just 302 yards because Michael Thomas though.
Conclusion: What can I say, when I'm wrong I'm wrong. Tyler Lockett is better than Michael Thomas and would lead the league in receiving if the Seahawks threw as often as New Orleans.
Julio Jones - Atlanta threw 617 times (#5)
OBJ - New York threw 583 times (#9)
Brown - Pittsburgh threw 689 times (#1)
Hilton - Indianapolis threw 644 times (#2)
Lockett - Seattle threw 427 times (#32) (discussed above)
*Landry - Cleveland threw 574 times (#11)
Thomas's numbers are not because of a pass happy offense. They're because he's a fucking stud.
Ballz claims efficiency defines a great receiver while he ranks at least 6 receivers ahead of Michael Thomas.
Ballz is stupid as fuck.
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is wetwettens!Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones
2. Deandre Hopkins
3. Antonio Brown
4. Odell Beckham Jr.
5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once.
Good luck.
tOSU is right there with the top schools in the country at putting WR's in the NFL numerically, and in the last four years they have produced one of the best 5 receivers in the league as well.
There is simply no way to paint tOSU as some kind of failure at putting out receivers in any land but Ballz Land.
You're wrong. Again.
#teamrawdawg
Can you prove me wrong? Didn't think so.
You lose, bitch.