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Justus Legg, 3* 2019 BUCK, Auburn (Riverside?), WA
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Russell Wilson had a perfect passer rating when throwing to Tyler Lockett. Wilson had the least pass attempts of his career.If the Seahawks had more of a pass oriented offense like the Saints do, Lockett would have led the league is receiving. Plus, what he can do as a return man makes him far more valuable than Thomas. He's a game changer as a return man.dawgs206 said:
LOL, you can never take an L. Tyler Lockett and TY are comical.StrongArmCobra said:
He still not top-5, I'd preferHillsboroDuck said:
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.HillsboroDuck said:
*One hit wonder*StrongArmCobra said:
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.FremontTroll said:
Bump.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol no he's not.HillsboroDuck said:
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFLFremontTroll said:
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.StrongArmCobra said:
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.HillsboroDuck said:
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.StrongArmCobra said:Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
Evan Spencer- 6th
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
Julio Jones
Odell Beckham Jr
Antonio Brown
T.Y. Hilton
Tyler Lockett
Over him.
If you add up Odell's stats from 2017 and 2018 he still has less yards, catches, and only one more TD than Thomas had this year. Odell has played more than 12 games 2 out of 5 years. If you are trying to make it somewhat of an argument at least throw in DeAndre Hopkins and Devante Adams.
Thomas is likely 3rd or 4th behind Julio, Hopkins, and maybe Brown this year. Odell is probably 5th. If they all hit free agency right now Hopkins and Thomas would be the highest paid.
Odell has been playing with trash ass Eli Manning his whole career. Give him Drew Brees to work with and he's put up way bigger numbers.
I like TY Hilton. He's explosive and a baller.
You're right Deandre Hopkins is for sure in the top-5 ahead of Thomas. Forgot about him. He might be the second best WR in the league.
Thomas ain't top-5. He's the product of Drew Brees and a pass happy offense. -
THE FUCKStrongArmCobra said:
Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.HillsboroDuck said:
TY Hilton?StrongArmCobra said:
He still not top-5, I'd preferHillsboroDuck said:
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.HillsboroDuck said:
*One hit wonder*StrongArmCobra said:
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.FremontTroll said:
Bump.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol no he's not.HillsboroDuck said:
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFLFremontTroll said:
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.StrongArmCobra said:
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.HillsboroDuck said:
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.StrongArmCobra said:Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
Evan Spencer- 6th
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
Julio Jones
Odell Beckham Jr
Antonio Brown
T.Y. Hilton
Tyler Lockett
Over him.
GTFOH
Also like how you are anti one hit wonder but have Tyler Lockett in your top 5 receivers.
Your consistency is only outpaced by your analysis.
Kudos. -
JFC ballz, this ranks among your worst instances of refusing to back out of an argument when you should.
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I know that you know you can't extrapolate like that. The reason Wilson to Lockett was such a valuable connection was precisely BECAUSE Wilson didn't throw it to Lockett very often.StrongArmCobra said:
Russell Wilson had a perfect passer rating when throwing to Tyler Lockett. Wilson had the least pass attempts of his career.If the Seahawks had more of a pass oriented offense like the Saints do, Lockett would have led the league is receiving. Plus, what he can do as a return man makes him far more valuable than Thomas. He's a game changer as a return man.dawgs206 said:
LOL, you can never take an L. Tyler Lockett and TY are comical.StrongArmCobra said:
He still not top-5, I'd preferHillsboroDuck said:
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.HillsboroDuck said:
*One hit wonder*StrongArmCobra said:
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.FremontTroll said:
Bump.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol no he's not.HillsboroDuck said:
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFLFremontTroll said:
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.StrongArmCobra said:
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.HillsboroDuck said:
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.StrongArmCobra said:Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
Evan Spencer- 6th
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
Julio Jones
Odell Beckham Jr
Antonio Brown
T.Y. Hilton
Tyler Lockett
Over him.
If you add up Odell's stats from 2017 and 2018 he still has less yards, catches, and only one more TD than Thomas had this year. Odell has played more than 12 games 2 out of 5 years. If you are trying to make it somewhat of an argument at least throw in DeAndre Hopkins and Devante Adams.
Thomas is likely 3rd or 4th behind Julio, Hopkins, and maybe Brown this year. Odell is probably 5th. If they all hit free agency right now Hopkins and Thomas would be the highest paid.
Odell has been playing with trash ass Eli Manning his whole career. Give him Drew Brees to work with and he's put up way bigger numbers.
I like TY Hilton. He's explosive and a baller.
You're right Deandre Hopkins is for sure in the top-5 ahead of Thomas. Forgot about him. He might be the second best WR in the league.
Thomas ain't top-5. He's the product of Drew Brees and a pass happy offense.
Otherwise shouldn't we be firing the Seahawks entire offensive staff for not throwing the ball to Lockett on every single down? The Seahawks would have been the greatest offense of all time! -
Let's test this theory out. We'll assume that Lockett's efficiency would remain the same over more passes, which is far from guaranteed, but we'll be generous and go with it.StrongArmCobra said:
Russell Wilson had a perfect passer rating when throwing to Tyler Lockett. Wilson had the least pass attempts of his career.If the Seahawks had more of a pass oriented offense like the Saints do, Lockett would have led the league is receiving. Plus, what he can do as a return man makes him far more valuable than Thomas. He's a game changer as a return man.dawgs206 said:
LOL, you can never take an L. Tyler Lockett and TY are comical.StrongArmCobra said:
He still not top-5, I'd preferHillsboroDuck said:
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.HillsboroDuck said:
*One hit wonder*StrongArmCobra said:
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.FremontTroll said:
Bump.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol no he's not.HillsboroDuck said:
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFLFremontTroll said:
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.StrongArmCobra said:
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.HillsboroDuck said:
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.StrongArmCobra said:Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
Evan Spencer- 6th
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
Julio Jones
Odell Beckham Jr
Antonio Brown
T.Y. Hilton
Tyler Lockett
Over him.
If you add up Odell's stats from 2017 and 2018 he still has less yards, catches, and only one more TD than Thomas had this year. Odell has played more than 12 games 2 out of 5 years. If you are trying to make it somewhat of an argument at least throw in DeAndre Hopkins and Devante Adams.
Thomas is likely 3rd or 4th behind Julio, Hopkins, and maybe Brown this year. Odell is probably 5th. If they all hit free agency right now Hopkins and Thomas would be the highest paid.
Odell has been playing with trash ass Eli Manning his whole career. Give him Drew Brees to work with and he's put up way bigger numbers.
I like TY Hilton. He's explosive and a baller.
You're right Deandre Hopkins is for sure in the top-5 ahead of Thomas. Forgot about him. He might be the second best WR in the league.
Thomas ain't top-5. He's the product of Drew Brees and a pass happy offense.
Russ threw 427 passes this year. Brees threw 489, so 62 more.
Russ targeted Lockett 70 times on his 427 throws, or once every 6.1 attempts. With 62 more passes, that gives Lockett 10 more targets.
Lockett caught 57 of his 70 targets, or 81% of them. 81% of 10 targets gives him 8 more catches.
Would 65 receptions have lead the league? No.
It would have put him just 60 receptions behind Thomas though.
Lockett turned his 70 targets into 965 yards, or 13.8 yards per target (rounding up). Give him another 10 targets and that gets him to 1103 yards.
Would 1103 yards have lead the league? No.
It would have put him just 302 yards because Michael Thomas though.
Conclusion: What can I say, when I'm wrong I'm wrong. Tyler Lockett is better than Michael Thomas and would lead the league in receiving if the Seahawks threw as often as New Orleans. -
In defense of Ballz, I'm all for firing the entire Seahawks offensive staff.FremontTroll said:
I know that you know you can't extrapolate like that. The reason Wilson to Lockett was such a valuable connection was precisely BECAUSE Wilson didn't throw it to Lockett very often.StrongArmCobra said:
Russell Wilson had a perfect passer rating when throwing to Tyler Lockett. Wilson had the least pass attempts of his career.If the Seahawks had more of a pass oriented offense like the Saints do, Lockett would have led the league is receiving. Plus, what he can do as a return man makes him far more valuable than Thomas. He's a game changer as a return man.dawgs206 said:
LOL, you can never take an L. Tyler Lockett and TY are comical.StrongArmCobra said:
He still not top-5, I'd preferHillsboroDuck said:
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.HillsboroDuck said:
*One hit wonder*StrongArmCobra said:
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.FremontTroll said:
Bump.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol no he's not.HillsboroDuck said:
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFLFremontTroll said:
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.StrongArmCobra said:
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.HillsboroDuck said:
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.StrongArmCobra said:Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
Evan Spencer- 6th
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
Julio Jones
Odell Beckham Jr
Antonio Brown
T.Y. Hilton
Tyler Lockett
Over him.
If you add up Odell's stats from 2017 and 2018 he still has less yards, catches, and only one more TD than Thomas had this year. Odell has played more than 12 games 2 out of 5 years. If you are trying to make it somewhat of an argument at least throw in DeAndre Hopkins and Devante Adams.
Thomas is likely 3rd or 4th behind Julio, Hopkins, and maybe Brown this year. Odell is probably 5th. If they all hit free agency right now Hopkins and Thomas would be the highest paid.
Odell has been playing with trash ass Eli Manning his whole career. Give him Drew Brees to work with and he's put up way bigger numbers.
I like TY Hilton. He's explosive and a baller.
You're right Deandre Hopkins is for sure in the top-5 ahead of Thomas. Forgot about him. He might be the second best WR in the league.
Thomas ain't top-5. He's the product of Drew Brees and a pass happy offense.
Otherwise shouldn't we be firing the Seahawks entire offensive staff for not throwing the ball to Lockett on every single down? The Seahawks would have been the greatest offense of all time! -
One last comment on this: The Saints don't have a pass happy offense. DoogBallz is living Deep in the past. New Orleans was the #23 offense in pass attempts with 519 this year, easily in the bottom third. By comparison let's look at the Ballz top 5 wideouts.
Julio Jones - Atlanta threw 617 times (#5)
OBJ - New York threw 583 times (#9)
Brown - Pittsburgh threw 689 times (#1)
Hilton - Indianapolis threw 644 times (#2)
Lockett - Seattle threw 427 times (#32) (discussed above)
*Landry - Cleveland threw 574 times (#11)
Thomas's numbers are not because of a pass happy offense. They're because he's a fucking stud.
Ballz claims efficiency defines a great receiver while he ranks at least 6 receivers ahead of Michael Thomas.
Ballz is stupid as fuck.
Wateris wetwettens! -
Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones
2. Deandre Hopkins
3. Antonio Brown
4. Odell Beckham Jr.
5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose. -
That's your hypothesis, it's on you to back it up.StrongArmCobra said:Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones
2. Deandre Hopkins
3. Antonio Brown
4. Odell Beckham Jr.
5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once. -
The claim you made about Thomas was in an attempt to prove that Ohio State wide receivers have not underachieved based on their rankings. Thomas alone is not enough to prove that. That is one data point while ignoring the rest. The burden is on you. I'm waiting.HillsboroDuck said:
That's your hypothesis, it's on you to back it up.StrongArmCobra said:Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones
2. Deandre Hopkins
3. Antonio Brown
4. Odell Beckham Jr.
5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once. -
The burden is not on me to prove your unproven claim wrong, that's not how it works.StrongArmCobra said:
The claim you made about Thomas was in an attempt to prove that Ohio State wide receivers have not underachieved based on their rankings. Thomas alone is not enough to prove that. That is one data point while ignoring the rest. The burden is on you. I'm waiting.HillsboroDuck said:
That's your hypothesis, it's on you to back it up.StrongArmCobra said:Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones
2. Deandre Hopkins
3. Antonio Brown
4. Odell Beckham Jr.
5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once.
Good luck. -
Lol that's what I thought, you lose.HillsboroDuck said:
The burden is not on me to prove your unproven claim wrong, that's not how it works.StrongArmCobra said:
The claim you made about Thomas was in an attempt to prove that Ohio State wide receivers have not underachieved based on their rankings. Thomas alone is not enough to prove that. That is one data point while ignoring the rest. The burden is on you. I'm waiting.HillsboroDuck said:
That's your hypothesis, it's on you to back it up.StrongArmCobra said:Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones
2. Deandre Hopkins
3. Antonio Brown
4. Odell Beckham Jr.
5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once.
Good luck.
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StrongBallz spreads aids faster on HH than it spread in Africa.
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This isn't even true, not that I should be surprised. My post was in response to @FremontTroll's response to your claim that "OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should". His post debunked your unfounded claim with listing 7 receivers picked in 5 years. I didn't need to prove your claim wrong and wasn't trying to prove it wrong (since it was already done) I simply added that Thomas is top 5 to illustrate that, not only do they have quantity, they have quality as well.StrongArmCobra said:
The claim you made about Thomas was in an attempt to prove that Ohio State wide receivers have not underachieved based on their rankings. Thomas alone is not enough to prove that. That is one data point while ignoring the rest. The burden is on you. I'm waiting.HillsboroDuck said:
That's your hypothesis, it's on you to back it up.StrongArmCobra said:Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones
2. Deandre Hopkins
3. Antonio Brown
4. Odell Beckham Jr.
5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once.
tOSU is right there with the top schools in the country at putting WR's in the NFL numerically, and in the last four years they have produced one of the best 5 receivers in the league as well.
There is simply no way to paint tOSU as some kind of failure at putting out receivers in any land but Ballz Land.
You're wrong. Again. -
Oh so you're saying you were just arguing semantics on a tangent. You lose again.HillsboroDuck said:
This isn't even true, not that I should be surprised. My post was in response to @FremontTroll's response to your claim that "OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should". His post debunked your unfounded claim with listing 7 receivers picked in 5 years. I didn't need to prove your claim wrong and wasn't trying to prove it wrong (since it was already done) I simply added that Thomas is top 5 to illustrate that, not only do they have quantity, they have quality as well.StrongArmCobra said:
The claim you made about Thomas was in an attempt to prove that Ohio State wide receivers have not underachieved based on their rankings. Thomas alone is not enough to prove that. That is one data point while ignoring the rest. The burden is on you. I'm waiting.HillsboroDuck said:
That's your hypothesis, it's on you to back it up.StrongArmCobra said:Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones
2. Deandre Hopkins
3. Antonio Brown
4. Odell Beckham Jr.
5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once.
tOSU is right there with the top schools in the country at putting WR's in the NFL numerically, and in the last four years they have produced one of the best 5 receivers in the league as well.
There is simply no way to paint tOSU as some kind of failure at putting out receivers in any land but Ballz Land.
You're wrong. Again. -
StrongArmCobra said:
Oh so you're saying you were just arguing semantics on a tangent. You lose again.HillsboroDuck said:
This isn't even true, not that I should be surprised. My post was in response to @FremontTroll's response to your claim that "OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should". His post debunked your unfounded claim with listing 7 receivers picked in 5 years. I didn't need to prove your claim wrong and wasn't trying to prove it wrong (since it was already done) I simply added that Thomas is top 5 to illustrate that, not only do they have quantity, they have quality as well.StrongArmCobra said:
The claim you made about Thomas was in an attempt to prove that Ohio State wide receivers have not underachieved based on their rankings. Thomas alone is not enough to prove that. That is one data point while ignoring the rest. The burden is on you. I'm waiting.HillsboroDuck said:
That's your hypothesis, it's on you to back it up.StrongArmCobra said:Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones
2. Deandre Hopkins
3. Antonio Brown
4. Odell Beckham Jr.
5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once.
tOSU is right there with the top schools in the country at putting WR's in the NFL numerically, and in the last four years they have produced one of the best 5 receivers in the league as well.
There is simply no way to paint tOSU as some kind of failure at putting out receivers in any land but Ballz Land.
You're wrong. Again.
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Yeah that's what I thought.HillsboroDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:
Oh so you're saying you were just arguing semantics on a tangent. You lose again.HillsboroDuck said:
This isn't even true, not that I should be surprised. My post was in response to @FremontTroll's response to your claim that "OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should". His post debunked your unfounded claim with listing 7 receivers picked in 5 years. I didn't need to prove your claim wrong and wasn't trying to prove it wrong (since it was already done) I simply added that Thomas is top 5 to illustrate that, not only do they have quantity, they have quality as well.StrongArmCobra said:
The claim you made about Thomas was in an attempt to prove that Ohio State wide receivers have not underachieved based on their rankings. Thomas alone is not enough to prove that. That is one data point while ignoring the rest. The burden is on you. I'm waiting.HillsboroDuck said:
That's your hypothesis, it's on you to back it up.StrongArmCobra said:Nobody cares about Michael Thomas. Most people don't even know who he is so obviously he ain't that good.
Top 5 WR in NFL:
1. Julio Jones
2. Deandre Hopkins
3. Antonio Brown
4. Odell Beckham Jr.
5. Tyler Lockett
Why are you ignoring my proposition @HillsboroDuck . Please prove Ohio State WRs overall haven't underachieved in comparison to their rankings. If you can't do that and all you can do is point out one exception and ignore the rest then you lose.
The only claim I made here is that Thomas is a top 5 receiver.
You disagreed.
You were wrong.
Feel free to do your own research to back up one of the claims you pull out of your ass for once.
tOSU is right there with the top schools in the country at putting WR's in the NFL numerically, and in the last four years they have produced one of the best 5 receivers in the league as well.
There is simply no way to paint tOSU as some kind of failure at putting out receivers in any land but Ballz Land.
You're wrong. Again. -
ISAFNRCbackthepack said:StrongBallz spreads aids faster on HH than it spread in Africa.
#teamrawdawg -
Frozen or evaporated water isn't water. I don't call them water. I don't care what grade school chemistry says about three states of matter. What counts is that it's not called water. It's called ice.
Can you prove me wrong? Didn't think so.
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So what's going on with Justus Legg?
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He goneHFNY said:So what's going on with Justus Legg?
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Ballz Jesus Christ.
If the point is UW would develop him better than tOSU I guess you could point to Ross being a borderline bust and Pettis making some plays when not injured and Jermaine Kearse doing stuff still. -
That was never my point. My point was that Ohio State's talent evaluations at the WR position have not been great. They have recruited a lot of 4-star receivers who never became NFL guys. They have underachieved at the WR position based on the rankings of the receivers they've recruited over the years. Not saying Gee Scott is for sure going to be a bust but I do think he's overrated. I don't see the speed or dominance at the high school level to justify his top 100 ranking and him committing to OSU does not change that. If Petersen makes a good hire at WR coach, UW can and will get better WR prospects in the 2020 class.Doogles said:Ballz Jesus Christ.
If the point is UW would develop him better than tOSU I guess you could point to Ross being a borderline bust and Pettis making some plays when not injured and Jermaine Kearse doing stuff still. -
StrongArmCobra said:
Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.HillsboroDuck said:
TY Hilton?StrongArmCobra said:
He still not top-5, I'd preferHillsboroDuck said:
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.HillsboroDuck said:
*One hit wonder*StrongArmCobra said:
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.FremontTroll said:
Bump.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol no he's not.HillsboroDuck said:
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFLFremontTroll said:
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.StrongArmCobra said:
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.HillsboroDuck said:
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.StrongArmCobra said:Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
Evan Spencer- 6th
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
Julio Jones
Odell Beckham Jr
Antonio Brown
T.Y. Hilton
Tyler Lockett
Over him.
GTFOH23. Browns get their No. 1 wideout
Dolphins trade: WR Jarvis Landry
Browns trade: 4-123, 2019 seventh-round pick
The Dolphins placed the franchise tag on Landry in the hopes of getting a draft pick and ended up netting a fourth-rounder from the Browns. Miami appears to have used the seventh-rounder to acquire 16-game starter Akeem Spence from the Lions. The fourth-round pick was used on tight end Durham Smythe, who caught six passes as a rookie. After signing Danny Amendola and Albert Wilson last offseason, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains bizarrely suggested that the Dolphins would use three tight ends for stretches in 2018; in the end, Miami used 13 personnel 33 times for 64 yards and just five first downs, each of which ranked among the lowest marks in football.
The bigger name in the trade was Landry, who signed a five-year, $75.5 million deal with the Browns after coming over from Miami. His first year in Ohio was uneven. Landry wasn't used as a source of cheap yards in his new home; his average target traveled 10.8 yards in the air, way up from the almost comically low 6.6-yard average Landry worked with during his three years in Miami. Simultaneously, though, Landry went from catching nearly 69 percent of his passes from 2015 to 2017 in Miami to just 54.4 percent in Cleveland last season. The changes weren't for the better, as Landry finished 79th in individual receiving DVOA, suggesting that the Browns might need to return Landry to his specialized role to get the sort of return they were hoping to garner from their top wideout.
Impact grade: C
BallzDeep Top 5 Receiver!!
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He plays for the Browns bro. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt when they're playing for the worst organization in the league. He's working with a rookie QB who's now working with a second head coach and they don't have a real #2 WR option after Landry. Context matters. Stop trying to prove me wrong. You'll never win. NEVER!HillsboroDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:
Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.HillsboroDuck said:
TY Hilton?StrongArmCobra said:
He still not top-5, I'd preferHillsboroDuck said:
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.HillsboroDuck said:
*One hit wonder*StrongArmCobra said:
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.FremontTroll said:
Bump.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol no he's not.HillsboroDuck said:
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFLFremontTroll said:
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.StrongArmCobra said:
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.HillsboroDuck said:
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.StrongArmCobra said:Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
Evan Spencer- 6th
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
Julio Jones
Odell Beckham Jr
Antonio Brown
T.Y. Hilton
Tyler Lockett
Over him.
GTFOH23. Browns get their No. 1 wideout
Dolphins trade: WR Jarvis Landry
Browns trade: 4-123, 2019 seventh-round pick
The Dolphins placed the franchise tag on Landry in the hopes of getting a draft pick and ended up netting a fourth-rounder from the Browns. Miami appears to have used the seventh-rounder to acquire 16-game starter Akeem Spence from the Lions. The fourth-round pick was used on tight end Durham Smythe, who caught six passes as a rookie. After signing Danny Amendola and Albert Wilson last offseason, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains bizarrely suggested that the Dolphins would use three tight ends for stretches in 2018; in the end, Miami used 13 personnel 33 times for 64 yards and just five first downs, each of which ranked among the lowest marks in football.
The bigger name in the trade was Landry, who signed a five-year, $75.5 million deal with the Browns after coming over from Miami. His first year in Ohio was uneven. Landry wasn't used as a source of cheap yards in his new home; his average target traveled 10.8 yards in the air, way up from the almost comically low 6.6-yard average Landry worked with during his three years in Miami. Simultaneously, though, Landry went from catching nearly 69 percent of his passes from 2015 to 2017 in Miami to just 54.4 percent in Cleveland last season. The changes weren't for the better, as Landry finished 79th in individual receiving DVOA, suggesting that the Browns might need to return Landry to his specialized role to get the sort of return they were hoping to garner from their top wideout.
Impact grade: C
BallzDeep Top 5 Receiver!! -
You ranked Jarvis Landry as a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays for the Browns bro. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt when they're playing for the worst organization in the league. He's working with a rookie QB who's now working with a second head coach and they don't have a real #2 WR option after Landry. Context matters. Stop trying to prove me wrong. You'll never win. NEVER!HillsboroDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:
Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.HillsboroDuck said:
TY Hilton?StrongArmCobra said:
He still not top-5, I'd preferHillsboroDuck said:
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.HillsboroDuck said:
*One hit wonder*StrongArmCobra said:
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.FremontTroll said:
Bump.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol no he's not.HillsboroDuck said:
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFLFremontTroll said:
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.StrongArmCobra said:
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.HillsboroDuck said:
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.StrongArmCobra said:Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
Evan Spencer- 6th
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
Julio Jones
Odell Beckham Jr
Antonio Brown
T.Y. Hilton
Tyler Lockett
Over him.
GTFOH23. Browns get their No. 1 wideout
Dolphins trade: WR Jarvis Landry
Browns trade: 4-123, 2019 seventh-round pick
The Dolphins placed the franchise tag on Landry in the hopes of getting a draft pick and ended up netting a fourth-rounder from the Browns. Miami appears to have used the seventh-rounder to acquire 16-game starter Akeem Spence from the Lions. The fourth-round pick was used on tight end Durham Smythe, who caught six passes as a rookie. After signing Danny Amendola and Albert Wilson last offseason, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains bizarrely suggested that the Dolphins would use three tight ends for stretches in 2018; in the end, Miami used 13 personnel 33 times for 64 yards and just five first downs, each of which ranked among the lowest marks in football.
The bigger name in the trade was Landry, who signed a five-year, $75.5 million deal with the Browns after coming over from Miami. His first year in Ohio was uneven. Landry wasn't used as a source of cheap yards in his new home; his average target traveled 10.8 yards in the air, way up from the almost comically low 6.6-yard average Landry worked with during his three years in Miami. Simultaneously, though, Landry went from catching nearly 69 percent of his passes from 2015 to 2017 in Miami to just 54.4 percent in Cleveland last season. The changes weren't for the better, as Landry finished 79th in individual receiving DVOA, suggesting that the Browns might need to return Landry to his specialized role to get the sort of return they were hoping to garner from their top wideout.
Impact grade: C
BallzDeep Top 5 Receiver!!
You already lost. -
Then why bother digging up old shit if you already think I lost? hmmmmm? That's what I thought.HillsboroDuck said:
You ranked Jarvis Landry as a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays for the Browns bro. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt when they're playing for the worst organization in the league. He's working with a rookie QB who's now working with a second head coach and they don't have a real #2 WR option after Landry. Context matters. Stop trying to prove me wrong. You'll never win. NEVER!HillsboroDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:
Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.HillsboroDuck said:
TY Hilton?StrongArmCobra said:
He still not top-5, I'd preferHillsboroDuck said:
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.HillsboroDuck said:
*One hit wonder*StrongArmCobra said:
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.FremontTroll said:
Bump.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol no he's not.HillsboroDuck said:
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFLFremontTroll said:
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.StrongArmCobra said:
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.HillsboroDuck said:
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.StrongArmCobra said:Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
Evan Spencer- 6th
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
Julio Jones
Odell Beckham Jr
Antonio Brown
T.Y. Hilton
Tyler Lockett
Over him.
GTFOH23. Browns get their No. 1 wideout
Dolphins trade: WR Jarvis Landry
Browns trade: 4-123, 2019 seventh-round pick
The Dolphins placed the franchise tag on Landry in the hopes of getting a draft pick and ended up netting a fourth-rounder from the Browns. Miami appears to have used the seventh-rounder to acquire 16-game starter Akeem Spence from the Lions. The fourth-round pick was used on tight end Durham Smythe, who caught six passes as a rookie. After signing Danny Amendola and Albert Wilson last offseason, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains bizarrely suggested that the Dolphins would use three tight ends for stretches in 2018; in the end, Miami used 13 personnel 33 times for 64 yards and just five first downs, each of which ranked among the lowest marks in football.
The bigger name in the trade was Landry, who signed a five-year, $75.5 million deal with the Browns after coming over from Miami. His first year in Ohio was uneven. Landry wasn't used as a source of cheap yards in his new home; his average target traveled 10.8 yards in the air, way up from the almost comically low 6.6-yard average Landry worked with during his three years in Miami. Simultaneously, though, Landry went from catching nearly 69 percent of his passes from 2015 to 2017 in Miami to just 54.4 percent in Cleveland last season. The changes weren't for the better, as Landry finished 79th in individual receiving DVOA, suggesting that the Browns might need to return Landry to his specialized role to get the sort of return they were hoping to garner from their top wideout.
Impact grade: C
BallzDeep Top 5 Receiver!!
You already lost. -
Because reminding you is funStrongArmCobra said:
Then why bother digging up old shit if you already think I lost? hmmmmm? That's what I thought.HillsboroDuck said:
You ranked Jarvis Landry as a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays for the Browns bro. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt when they're playing for the worst organization in the league. He's working with a rookie QB who's now working with a second head coach and they don't have a real #2 WR option after Landry. Context matters. Stop trying to prove me wrong. You'll never win. NEVER!HillsboroDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:
Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.HillsboroDuck said:
TY Hilton?StrongArmCobra said:
He still not top-5, I'd preferHillsboroDuck said:
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.HillsboroDuck said:
*One hit wonder*StrongArmCobra said:
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.FremontTroll said:
Bump.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol no he's not.HillsboroDuck said:
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFLFremontTroll said:
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.StrongArmCobra said:
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.HillsboroDuck said:
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.StrongArmCobra said:Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
Evan Spencer- 6th
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
Julio Jones
Odell Beckham Jr
Antonio Brown
T.Y. Hilton
Tyler Lockett
Over him.
GTFOH23. Browns get their No. 1 wideout
Dolphins trade: WR Jarvis Landry
Browns trade: 4-123, 2019 seventh-round pick
The Dolphins placed the franchise tag on Landry in the hopes of getting a draft pick and ended up netting a fourth-rounder from the Browns. Miami appears to have used the seventh-rounder to acquire 16-game starter Akeem Spence from the Lions. The fourth-round pick was used on tight end Durham Smythe, who caught six passes as a rookie. After signing Danny Amendola and Albert Wilson last offseason, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains bizarrely suggested that the Dolphins would use three tight ends for stretches in 2018; in the end, Miami used 13 personnel 33 times for 64 yards and just five first downs, each of which ranked among the lowest marks in football.
The bigger name in the trade was Landry, who signed a five-year, $75.5 million deal with the Browns after coming over from Miami. His first year in Ohio was uneven. Landry wasn't used as a source of cheap yards in his new home; his average target traveled 10.8 yards in the air, way up from the almost comically low 6.6-yard average Landry worked with during his three years in Miami. Simultaneously, though, Landry went from catching nearly 69 percent of his passes from 2015 to 2017 in Miami to just 54.4 percent in Cleveland last season. The changes weren't for the better, as Landry finished 79th in individual receiving DVOA, suggesting that the Browns might need to return Landry to his specialized role to get the sort of return they were hoping to garner from their top wideout.
Impact grade: C
BallzDeep Top 5 Receiver!!
You already lost. -
Thanks for reminding me I won. 'preciate it bro ✊HillsboroDuck said:
Because reminding you is funStrongArmCobra said:
Then why bother digging up old shit if you already think I lost? hmmmmm? That's what I thought.HillsboroDuck said:
You ranked Jarvis Landry as a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays for the Browns bro. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt when they're playing for the worst organization in the league. He's working with a rookie QB who's now working with a second head coach and they don't have a real #2 WR option after Landry. Context matters. Stop trying to prove me wrong. You'll never win. NEVER!HillsboroDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:
Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.HillsboroDuck said:
TY Hilton?StrongArmCobra said:
He still not top-5, I'd preferHillsboroDuck said:
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.HillsboroDuck said:
*One hit wonder*StrongArmCobra said:
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.FremontTroll said:
Bump.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol no he's not.HillsboroDuck said:
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFLFremontTroll said:
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.StrongArmCobra said:
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.HillsboroDuck said:
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.StrongArmCobra said:Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
Evan Spencer- 6th
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
Julio Jones
Odell Beckham Jr
Antonio Brown
T.Y. Hilton
Tyler Lockett
Over him.
GTFOH23. Browns get their No. 1 wideout
Dolphins trade: WR Jarvis Landry
Browns trade: 4-123, 2019 seventh-round pick
The Dolphins placed the franchise tag on Landry in the hopes of getting a draft pick and ended up netting a fourth-rounder from the Browns. Miami appears to have used the seventh-rounder to acquire 16-game starter Akeem Spence from the Lions. The fourth-round pick was used on tight end Durham Smythe, who caught six passes as a rookie. After signing Danny Amendola and Albert Wilson last offseason, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains bizarrely suggested that the Dolphins would use three tight ends for stretches in 2018; in the end, Miami used 13 personnel 33 times for 64 yards and just five first downs, each of which ranked among the lowest marks in football.
The bigger name in the trade was Landry, who signed a five-year, $75.5 million deal with the Browns after coming over from Miami. His first year in Ohio was uneven. Landry wasn't used as a source of cheap yards in his new home; his average target traveled 10.8 yards in the air, way up from the almost comically low 6.6-yard average Landry worked with during his three years in Miami. Simultaneously, though, Landry went from catching nearly 69 percent of his passes from 2015 to 2017 in Miami to just 54.4 percent in Cleveland last season. The changes weren't for the better, as Landry finished 79th in individual receiving DVOA, suggesting that the Browns might need to return Landry to his specialized role to get the sort of return they were hoping to garner from their top wideout.
Impact grade: C
BallzDeep Top 5 Receiver!!
You already lost. -
If calling a guy who is lucky to be a top 50 WR top 5 is winning, you win all the damn time.StrongArmCobra said:
Thanks for reminding me I won. 'preciate it bro ✊HillsboroDuck said:
Because reminding you is funStrongArmCobra said:
Then why bother digging up old shit if you already think I lost? hmmmmm? That's what I thought.HillsboroDuck said:
You ranked Jarvis Landry as a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays for the Browns bro. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt when they're playing for the worst organization in the league. He's working with a rookie QB who's now working with a second head coach and they don't have a real #2 WR option after Landry. Context matters. Stop trying to prove me wrong. You'll never win. NEVER!HillsboroDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:
Yup, or Jarvis Landry. Blessem.HillsboroDuck said:
TY Hilton?StrongArmCobra said:
He still not top-5, I'd preferHillsboroDuck said:
I claimed Thomas is a top 5 receiver.StrongArmCobra said:
He plays with Drew Brees. So they got one guy that's good? Go ahead and do an analysis of all the receivers Ohio State has recruited over the past decade and see if they have underachieved or overachieved based on their rankings. Then get back to me. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. You're proving nothing here.HillsboroDuck said:
*One hit wonder*StrongArmCobra said:
Psshhh. That's all Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. A lot of guys have one hit wonder seasons early in their careers and then fall off. I'm not at all impressed with Ohio State WR's based on their recruiting success. They are under performing at that position.FremontTroll said:
Bump.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol no he's not.HillsboroDuck said:
Michael Thomas is one of the 5 best receivers in the NFLFremontTroll said:
When you spout off this bullshit I can't tell if you don't know what you are talking about or you are lying and hoping that nobody else knows what they are talking about.StrongArmCobra said:
Ohio State also offered Ty Jones and he's not exactly lighting it up. With all the talent they get, OSU is not putting receivers in the league like they should. Their talent evaluations at that position are not good. All their receivers in the Rose Bowl were like 6'0 or 6'1 and none were nationally big name guys that stand out as elite players. Admittedly, Gee is not as overrated as Legg was but he's still overrated. It's whatever.HillsboroDuck said:
Yep, I remember when Ohio State took a commit from Justus Legg. Dark times around here.StrongArmCobra said:Initial ranking as a Sophomore was 4-stars. Sometimes when UW doesn't offer a highly rated in-state kid, they kinda know what they're doing. Consider that the next time anybody wants to bitch about Gee Scott never being offered.
(I'm not crying over Scott but this is a really awful example.)
Parris Campbell is going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick this year. KJ Hill is coming back for his Senior Year to try to get into the 1st round next year. Not putting receivers into the league? Parris will be the seventh WR drafted out of OSU in 5 years.
2017: Curtis Samuel- 2nd
Noah Brown- 7th
2016: Michael Thomas- 2nd
Braxton Miller- 3rd
2015: Devin Smith- 2nd
Evan Spencer- 6th
You said "LOL he's not".
I've proved exactly what I was trying to prove.
hth
Julio Jones
Odell Beckham Jr
Antonio Brown
T.Y. Hilton
Tyler Lockett
Over him.
GTFOH23. Browns get their No. 1 wideout
Dolphins trade: WR Jarvis Landry
Browns trade: 4-123, 2019 seventh-round pick
The Dolphins placed the franchise tag on Landry in the hopes of getting a draft pick and ended up netting a fourth-rounder from the Browns. Miami appears to have used the seventh-rounder to acquire 16-game starter Akeem Spence from the Lions. The fourth-round pick was used on tight end Durham Smythe, who caught six passes as a rookie. After signing Danny Amendola and Albert Wilson last offseason, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains bizarrely suggested that the Dolphins would use three tight ends for stretches in 2018; in the end, Miami used 13 personnel 33 times for 64 yards and just five first downs, each of which ranked among the lowest marks in football.
The bigger name in the trade was Landry, who signed a five-year, $75.5 million deal with the Browns after coming over from Miami. His first year in Ohio was uneven. Landry wasn't used as a source of cheap yards in his new home; his average target traveled 10.8 yards in the air, way up from the almost comically low 6.6-yard average Landry worked with during his three years in Miami. Simultaneously, though, Landry went from catching nearly 69 percent of his passes from 2015 to 2017 in Miami to just 54.4 percent in Cleveland last season. The changes weren't for the better, as Landry finished 79th in individual receiving DVOA, suggesting that the Browns might need to return Landry to his specialized role to get the sort of return they were hoping to garner from their top wideout.
Impact grade: C
BallzDeep Top 5 Receiver!!
You already lost.
