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Johnny Wilson, 2020 5* WR, Calabasas, CA (Offered 7/14/17)
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This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad). -
Actually, there are also not many guys with his height/weight/speed who "beasted" on DBs in college, either. Again, last 10 years there have been just a handful. Hakeem Butler ran a 4.48, electronically timed on the slow track at Indy. Was Wilson's 4.59 hand-timed? If so, we're getting into Da'Runnya Wilson territory.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad). -
Lol the opening is lasered timed.
Wilson ran like a 4.8 and was still a monster in college. -
Thanks for the info.backthepack said:Lol the opening is lasered timed.
Wilson ran like a 4.8 and was still a monster in college.
Disagree on his being a “monster “. His best year had 1 more catch and 30 more yards than Fuller had last year . A handful more touchdowns though because obviously his big body worked well in the red zone -
LaMichael_Corleone said:
I think it’s pretty funny that Oregon sells WR’s on their usage in the offense as if they haven’t asked their receivers to run the same 4 routes since the end of Belotti. First hand, I know Dillon Mitchell wasn’t happy about his role/development and that’s while playing with a talent like Herbert and plenty of specific formations to get him open as the first read. I wouldn’t be happy either if I was a legit 6’1 at the combine, ran a 4.4, had good film against Cal, UDUB, & Utah, and still got taken in the 7th round.
First hand you're a fucking liar. First hand you're a fucking idiot.
As if the Cristobal offense is JUST like what Kelly and Slingblade ran. Oh wait, it's the polar opposite? Mitchell was a headcase without any elite measureable, had one of the best statistical seasons in Oregon history, and will cash a few paychecks. Stupid fucking argument.
"Mitchell’s maturity and off-field work ethic were questioned by scouts before the draft, even with No. 2 wideout potential on talent alone. He’s a low-floor prospect with some upside."
"An NFL scout said Oregon WR Dillon Mitchell "has to grow up and take this serious."
The scout continued, "It's not a secret over there. He doesn't put the time in." But that's not all. Mitchell reportedly doesn't listen to coaches either, which explains his inconsistencies on-field and why there were drives where Mitchell was completely off the field."
GTFO.
How about come to Oregon, where you can be a little bitch and still have a massive season, be an undersized pussy and still get drafted.
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Wilson looks like the prototypical usc wr that carrol had during his run. Just get him to sign and quit justifying why it's okay if he goes to Oregon.RealRhino said:
Actually, there are also not many guys with his height/weight/speed who "beasted" on DBs in college, either. Again, last 10 years there have been just a handful. Hakeem Butler ran a 4.48, electronically timed on the slow track at Indy. Was Wilson's 4.59 hand-timed? If so, we're getting into Da'Runnya Wilson territory.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad). -
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good. -
Cool. We?ll gladly take Wilson off yore hands the same way we did Delgado and Pittman.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good. -
Delgado should be good, still don’t understand why we didn’t accept his commitment. Pittman is going to be a bustIPukeOregonGrellow said:
Cool. We?ll gladly take Wilson off yore hands the same way we did Delgado and Pittman.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good. -
Alphas have alpha attitudes. Its why they are alphas. It doesn't mean they aren't team players its just they're confident. Now days they express it on social media. Pete shies away from those kids until they prove—if they prove— they are an "OKG"RoadDawg55 said:
It’s fine not to trust it and think we are blowing it by not recruiting Wilson harder. That said, I don’t think it’s because UW coaches are lazy. There is a reason.Baseman said:
Thank you Mrs. Peterson and all Trusting Coaches Doogs everywhere.StrongArmCobra said:There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.
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Why do you think he is going to be a bust? On campus for a few weeks and leads all receivers in the spring game 7 catches 48yrds no drops...FirePete said:
Delgado should be good, still don’t understand why we didn’t accept his commitment. Pittman is going to be a bustIPukeOregonGrellow said:
Cool. We?ll gladly take Wilson off yore hands the same way we did Delgado and Pittman.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good. -
Oh well the Spring game why didn't you say so?
Sounds like the defensive backs suck then -
And 48 yards, lol.RaceBannon said:Oh well the Spring game why didn't you say so?
Sounds like the defensive backs suck then -
The original Sark, the UW one actually named Sark not the UO one bringing sizzle to eugene, also like to let scrubs star in the spring game.blackmamba said:
Why do you think he is going to be a bust? On campus for a few weeks and leads all receivers in the spring game 7 catches 48yrds no drops...FirePete said:
Delgado should be good, still don’t understand why we didn’t accept his commitment. Pittman is going to be a bustIPukeOregonGrellow said:
Cool. We?ll gladly take Wilson off yore hands the same way we did Delgado and Pittman.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good. -
I totally disagree re Pittman. I for one wanted him badly. I compared him to Steve Smith while he was being recruited. He is going to be very good. Delgado? Mheh
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If the board is about opinions, don’t then say “the coaches agree” that Wilson won’t ever amount to shit and that “they’ve moved on and found doods that are better” unless you’ve talked to someone on staff. I’m all about being able to predict if a player is going to suck, despite how pointless it is, but when you speak on the coaches behalf without information from them it waters down when someone on here does have internal information.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good. -
Either Delgado and Pittman will be fine, or they won't. That's why you recruit Jaylon Redd and Isaah Crocker in front of them. And that's why you recruit Kris Hutson and Seven McGee behind them, and take Gary Bryant's commitment if he gives it you.FirePete said:
Delgado should be good, still don’t understand why we didn’t accept his commitment. Pittman is going to be a bustIPukeOregonGrellow said:
Cool. We?ll gladly take Wilson off yore hands the same way we did Delgado and Pittman.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good.
Saying yore Cristobal is 100% accurate about how an 18-year-old is going to turn out is the sign of a Bothell edumacation. -
If he commits,
Bellevue community college edumacationIPukeOregonGrellow said:
Either Delgado and Pittman will be fine, or they won't. That's why you recruit Jaylon Redd and Isaah Crocker in front of them. And that's why you recruit Kris Hutson and Seven McGee behind them, and take Gary Bryant's commitment if he gives it you.FirePete said:
Delgado should be good, still don’t understand why we didn’t accept his commitment. Pittman is going to be a bustIPukeOregonGrellow said:
Cool. We?ll gladly take Wilson off yore hands the same way we did Delgado and Pittman.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good.
Saying yore Cristobal is 100% accurate about how an 18-year-old is going to turn out is the sign of a Bothell edumacation. -
Wilson ran a laser sub 4.6 at 6’6” 220 and he catches the ball well. At minimum he’s a high floor player.
As far as Pittman, he has clamps for hands, runs good routes and is tough to tackles after the catch. Kid is a total alpha. -
He’s on reality TV with whiny OC white girls.lawsandl said:Wilson ran a laser sub 4.6 at 6’6” 220 and he catches the ball well. At minimum he’s a high floor player.
As far as Pittman, he has clamps for hands, runs good routes and is tough to tackles after the catch. Kid is a total alpha.
He might be a great WR. He’s no fucking alpha.
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@NorwegianHusky true?HillsboroDuck said:
He’s on reality TV with whiny OC white girls.lawsandl said:Wilson ran a laser sub 4.6 at 6’6” 220 and he catches the ball well. At minimum he’s a high floor player.
As far as Pittman, he has clamps for hands, runs good routes and is tough to tackles after the catch. Kid is a total alpha.
He might be a great WR. He’s no fucking alpha.
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Bellevue CC students are at least making an effort to avoid Bothell.FirePete said:If he commits,
Bellevue community college edumacationIPukeOregonGrellow said:
Either Delgado and Pittman will be fine, or they won't. That's why you recruit Jaylon Redd and Isaah Crocker in front of them. And that's why you recruit Kris Hutson and Seven McGee behind them, and take Gary Bryant's commitment if he gives it you.FirePete said:
Delgado should be good, still don’t understand why we didn’t accept his commitment. Pittman is going to be a bustIPukeOregonGrellow said:
Cool. We?ll gladly take Wilson off yore hands the same way we did Delgado and Pittman.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good.
Saying yore Cristobal is 100% accurate about how an 18-year-old is going to turn out is the sign of a Bothell edumacation. -
Lol, couldn’t make it through that video.HillsboroDuck said:
He’s on reality TV with whiny OC white girls.lawsandl said:Wilson ran a laser sub 4.6 at 6’6” 220 and he catches the ball well. At minimum he’s a high floor player.
As far as Pittman, he has clamps for hands, runs good routes and is tough to tackles after the catch. Kid is a total alpha.
He might be a great WR. He’s no fucking alpha. -
definitely, a tough watch. Makes me realize how fucking old i am getting.lawsandl said:
Lol, couldn’t make it through that video.HillsboroDuck said:
He’s on reality TV with whiny OC white girls.lawsandl said:Wilson ran a laser sub 4.6 at 6’6” 220 and he catches the ball well. At minimum he’s a high floor player.
As far as Pittman, he has clamps for hands, runs good routes and is tough to tackles after the catch. Kid is a total alpha.
He might be a great WR. He’s no fucking alpha. -
Although I made it less than two minutes into the movie Clueless when I was a teenager. Bad movies are always bad.FirePete said:
definitely, a tough watch. Makes me realize how fucking old i am getting.lawsandl said:
Lol, couldn’t make it through that video.HillsboroDuck said:
He’s on reality TV with whiny OC white girls.lawsandl said:Wilson ran a laser sub 4.6 at 6’6” 220 and he catches the ball well. At minimum he’s a high floor player.
As far as Pittman, he has clamps for hands, runs good routes and is tough to tackles after the catch. Kid is a total alpha.
He might be a great WR. He’s no fucking alpha. -
Nothing says alpha like being introduced as the "swaggy kid with a hover board."lawsandl said:Wilson ran a laser sub 4.6 at 6’6” 220 and he catches the ball well. At minimum he’s a high floor player.
As far as Pittman, he has clamps for hands, runs good routes and is tough to tackles after the catch. Kid is a total alpha.
https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest/video/swaggy-kid-hoverboard-thats-mycah-pittman -
All jokes aside, why do we not have any good looking journalists that do pieces like this? Doogman guys don’t count.
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Bri Amaranthus. Great god almighty. Take me home tonight plz.
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Take her out of the equation and I haven’t even seen any udub interviews with graphic packages like that... what you say @BroadcastingDawgCallMeBigErn said:Bri Amaranthus. Great god almighty. Take me home tonight plz.
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Ektard:
"yesterday, someone asked about UW and Johnny Wilson and I said that UW had pulled back and weren't recruiting him and he wasn't that interested either. Apparently that isn't really the case at all..."
Biggins:
In addition to Texas, Oregon remains heavily in the mix with UCLA and Washington rounding out his top four. Wilson said Ohio State, who was previously in his final five, is no longer involved.
“I’ll be going to Oregon in late July for their Saturday Night Live Event,” Wilson said. “I talk with that staff all the time and coach Bouknight and coach Arroyo hit me up every day. I hear from Micah (Pittman) all the time as well and I feel really good about my role and how I would fit in there.
“Coach Arroyo coached Mike Evans with the Buccaneers and that’s a receiver who I’ve been compared to and they want to use me in a similar way. Right now, Oregon and Texas are definitely the two schools I’m talking with the most but I still have interest in UCLA and Washington too and I want to try and visit all four schools during the season.”
Jimmy Dougherty at UCLA and Junior Adams at Washington are the main recruiters for Wilson.
“I haven’t been up to UCLA in awhile,” Wilson said. “I like coach Jimmy and I’ve heard from Ethan Young too but the communication has died off a little since earlier in the year. Like I said though, I still have interest in their program and plan to catch a couple of games this season and take a visit.
“I talk with Junior Adams and coach Petersen. Coach Adams talks a lot about the mental part of the game and said he wants me to play with a little more edge and wants to get that dog in me and I know I can do that, I have that in me. So hopefully I’ll be able to visit there officially during the season as well.”
Edit: Biggins later clarifies that it's still likely over, but that it's not because UW dropped him. Seems like Wilson dropped UW. So fuck off everyone who said he wasn't good enough and that UW dropped him.
"Communication has broken off a bit with Wilson but not to the fault of Washington. The coaches have tried to reach out but Wilson hasn't been reciprocating as much, same thing with UCLA. The main schools he's talking with are Texas and Oregon right now and they have a pretty solid lead."
