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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    What's crazy reading this thread that so many people equate being the best player to being the player that would win in a game of 1 on 1 ... except that basketball is a 5 on 5 game and winning matters.

    Durant was EASILY his most efficient this season ... if you want the one stat that for me is the most impressive it is that his turnovers from bad passes went down from 100 last year to 19 this year ...

    The whole Curry/Thompson/Green arguments of where they fall in the best players in the league is comical to me as well. The thought of any of them being glorified role players is also a literal LOL .. part of winning is sacrificing personal gain to better the team. The threat of Curry shooting is at times as powerful as his actual ability to do so ... to me, that's a sign of an elite offensive player in that they can control the game without even shooting. Green is the glue that holds the entire team together (along with Iguodala) with the versatility to do whatever needs to be done on THAT night to win games. He's as versatile of a defender in the league and on a team where the top 3 players are quiet and generally not confused with aggressive alpha males personalities on the court ... Green makes up for it and his energy can pull the team up when they need a swift kick in the ass. Thompson is the one that has sacrificed the most. He's an elite shooter and defender that has shifted the balance of his scoring to be the #1 option on the bench unit while locking down the opposition's best perimeter scorer for the bulk of the game. Anybody that thinks that his offensive skill is just that of being a great role player doesn't know shit IMO.

    The best players in the league right now:

    1) LBJ
    2) Durant
    3) Leonard
    4) Curry
    5) Harden
    6) Westbrook
    7) Irving (when engaged)
    8) Greek Freak
    9) Green
    10) Thompson
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Stop with this whole Durant is the 4th best player on his team. Just stop.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Stop with this whole Durant is the 4th best player on his team. Just stop.

    It's a joke.

    We know he is better than Klay.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Tequilla said:

    What's crazy reading this thread that so many people equate being the best player to being the player that would win in a game of 1 on 1 ... except that basketball is a 5 on 5 game and winning matters.

    Durant was EASILY his most efficient this season ... if you want the one stat that for me is the most impressive it is that his turnovers from bad passes went down from 100 last year to 19 this year ...

    The whole Curry/Thompson/Green arguments of where they fall in the best players in the league is comical to me as well. The thought of any of them being glorified role players is also a literal LOL .. part of winning is sacrificing personal gain to better the team. The threat of Curry shooting is at times as powerful as his actual ability to do so ... to me, that's a sign of an elite offensive player in that they can control the game without even shooting. Green is the glue that holds the entire team together (along with Iguodala) with the versatility to do whatever needs to be done on THAT night to win games. He's as versatile of a defender in the league and on a team where the top 3 players are quiet and generally not confused with aggressive alpha males personalities on the court ... Green makes up for it and his energy can pull the team up when they need a swift kick in the ass. Thompson is the one that has sacrificed the most. He's an elite shooter and defender that has shifted the balance of his scoring to be the #1 option on the bench unit while locking down the opposition's best perimeter scorer for the bulk of the game. Anybody that thinks that his offensive skill is just that of being a great role player doesn't know shit IMO.

    The best players in the league right now:

    1) LBJ
    2) Durant
    3) Leonard
    4) Curry
    5) Harden
    6) Westbrook
    7) Irving (when engaged)
    8) Greek Freak
    9) Green
    10) Thompson

    I don't hate that list but Thompson doesn't belong. He's in the 15-20 range.

    Otherwise pretty solid.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    salemcoog said:

    Yea he has Lamarcus as an anchor but he is a winner.

    Not sure if he can beat the Rockets or Warriors.... but don't count out Popavich and the best defender in the NBA.

    La Marcus sucks....





    HTH
    BUMp!
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    edited May 2017
    Tequilla said:

    What's crazy reading this thread that so many people equate being the best player to being the player that would win in a game of 1 on 1 ... except that basketball is a 5 on 5 game and winning matters.

    Durant was EASILY his most efficient this season ... if you want the one stat that for me is the most impressive it is that his turnovers from bad passes went down from 100 last year to 19 this year ...

    The whole Curry/Thompson/Green arguments of where they fall in the best players in the league is comical to me as well. The thought of any of them being glorified role players is also a literal LOL .. part of winning is sacrificing personal gain to better the team. The threat of Curry shooting is at times as powerful as his actual ability to do so ... to me, that's a sign of an elite offensive player in that they can control the game without even shooting. Green is the glue that holds the entire team together (along with Iguodala) with the versatility to do whatever needs to be done on THAT night to win games. He's as versatile of a defender in the league and on a team where the top 3 players are quiet and generally not confused with aggressive alpha males personalities on the court ... Green makes up for it and his energy can pull the team up when they need a swift kick in the ass. Thompson is the one that has sacrificed the most. He's an elite shooter and defender that has shifted the balance of his scoring to be the #1 option on the bench unit while locking down the opposition's best perimeter scorer for the bulk of the game. Anybody that thinks that his offensive skill is just that of being a great role player doesn't know shit IMO.

    The best players in the league right now:

    1) LBJ
    2) Durant
    3) Leonard
    4) Curry
    5) Harden
    6) Westbrook
    7) Irving (when engaged)
    8) Greek Freak
    9) Green
    10) Thompson

    Not a bad list other than Irving. LeBron props him up.

    I know Davis hasn't won, but he's better than a few of them as well.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,038
    edited May 2017
    I know I'm a pimp for Giannis but here's the real Greek Freak.

    image

    Edit:

    Olga Famaki looks freakier.

    image
  • BrickSquad
    BrickSquad Member Posts: 1,658

    Mosster47 said:

    1. LeBron
    2. Westbrook
    3. Unibrow
    4. Curry
    5. Beard
    6. Freak
    7. Green
    8. Leonard
    9. Cousins
    10. PG13

    Lillard/Wall/Kyrie/Paul/Heyward/etc. are just outside.

    There are 30 guys you could argue that are just outside.

    Until Anthony Davis and Demarcus Cousins get out of the first round, or even make the playoffs in Cousins case, they're good stats bad team bums.
    Dont lump Anthony Davis with Boogie. The eye brow is legit and I remember him single handily try to take a playoff series away from the 2015 warriors
  • BrickSquad
    BrickSquad Member Posts: 1,658

    I know I'm a pimp for Giannis but here's the real Greek Freak.

    image

    Edit:

    Olga Famaki looks freakier.

    image

    i'd giannis her real quick
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club

    Stop with this whole Durant is the 4th best player on his team. Just stop.

    It's a joke.

    We know he is better than Klay.
    And Klay is better than Curry
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,038

    I know I'm a pimp for Giannis but here's the real Greek Freak.

    image

    Edit:

    Olga Famaki looks freakier.

    image

    i'd giannis her real quick
    I'm gonna change my user name to @PurpleAntetokounmpo

  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Mosster47 said:

    1. LeBron
    2. Westbrook
    3. Unibrow
    4. Curry
    5. Beard
    6. Freak
    7. Green
    8. Leonard
    9. Cousins
    10. PG13

    Lillard/Wall/Kyrie/Paul/Heyward/etc. are just outside.

    There are 30 guys you could argue that are just outside.

    Until Anthony Davis and Demarcus Cousins get out of the first round, or even make the playoffs in Cousins case, they're good stats bad team bums.
    Dont lump Anthony Davis with Boogie. The eye brow is legit and I remember him single handily try to take a playoff series away from the 2015 warriors
    They got swept.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    Davis has a shitty team, but how are they really this bad with him on the team?

    He seems like a perfect center for today's NBA, but at some point you have to win.
  • BrickSquad
    BrickSquad Member Posts: 1,658

    Mosster47 said:

    1. LeBron
    2. Westbrook
    3. Unibrow
    4. Curry
    5. Beard
    6. Freak
    7. Green
    8. Leonard
    9. Cousins
    10. PG13

    Lillard/Wall/Kyrie/Paul/Heyward/etc. are just outside.

    There are 30 guys you could argue that are just outside.

    Until Anthony Davis and Demarcus Cousins get out of the first round, or even make the playoffs in Cousins case, they're good stats bad team bums.
    Dont lump Anthony Davis with Boogie. The eye brow is legit and I remember him single handily try to take a playoff series away from the 2015 warriors
    They got swept.
    The games were close. Just saying he'll be the best player in the league after LeBron falls off.
  • BrickSquad
    BrickSquad Member Posts: 1,658

    Davis has a shitty team, but how are they really this bad with him on the team?

    He seems like a perfect center for today's NBA, but at some point you have to win.

    True; plus his injury history prevents him from making the next step. I still believe he will though.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    I feel vindicated.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,700 Founders Club
    Leonard's team sucks bump
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    I love the Spurs kicking the Warriors square in the cunt.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    haie said:

    Leonard's team sucks bump

    Coach is possibly the GOAT. Parker getting injured has been somewhat of a blessing. Mills is better and deserves more minutes and Murray gives them needed athleticism and length.
  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,269 Standard Supporter
    Late to the party, but it's fun to pile on. Leonard is 6th in the NBA in scoring, and that's what he's "worst" at. This is some tequila fucking stupid shit.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    dtd said:

    Late to the party, but it's fun to pile on. Leonard is 6th in the NBA in scoring, and that's what he's "worst" at. This is some tequila fucking stupid shit.

    I would go with playmaking for his worst skill, but agree.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    Aldridge is playing like an All Star at the right time. They have a chance if he keeps playing like this.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Thompson is better than Curry!
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    edited May 2017
    dnc said:

    Thompson is better than Curry!

    Green and Thompson both are overrated. I don't mean that as a slight either.

    Green is a very good passer, but the reason he gets so many assists are the players he is passing to.

    He shoots wide open shots. Great defender, but good offense always wins at the highest level.

    He's not even close to being as good as Anthony Davis. Would any of you seriously start a team with him over John Wall? He's top 20, but top 10 is a huge stretch.

    I would take Isaiah and Irving over Klay. Obviously a great shooter and scorer. Not a bad defender. He doesn't rebound and can't pass. Borderline top 20.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    Thompson is better than Curry!

    Green and Thompson both are overrated. I don't mean that as a slight either.

    Green is a very good passer, but the reason he gets so many assists are the players he is passing to.

    He shoots wide open shots. Great defender, but good offense always wins at the highest level.

    He's not even close to being as good as Anthony Davis. Would any of you seriously start a team with him over John Wall? He's top 20, but top 10 is a huge stretch.

    I would take Isaiah and Irving over Klay. Obviously a great shooter and scorer. Not a bad defender. He doesn't rebound and can't pass. Borderline top 20.
    I mostly agree though I'm higher on Green than you are just because of his defense. But yeah, Davis is better.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    dnc said:

    I'm pro Durant, but this is pretty great

    If they lose, Curry or Durant (most likely) will leave. The implosion will be beautiful.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    I'm pro Durant, but this is pretty great

    If they lose, Curry or Durant (most likely) will leave. The implosion will be beautiful.
    I kind of doubt it. The Heat lost there* first year with the big three. I think Curry and Durant would come back for one more go.

    If they don't win a ring by next June, it will definitely implode.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    dtd said:

    Late to the party, but it's fun to pile on. Leonard is 6th in the NBA in scoring, and that's what he's "worst" at. This is some tequila fucking stupid shit.

    I'm also the guy that made an argument that Westbrook was the 3rd best MVP candidate this year and that a great case could have been made for both Leonard over Harden.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    I'm pro Durant, but this is pretty great

    If they lose, Curry or Durant (most likely) will leave. The implosion will be beautiful.
    I kind of doubt it. The Heat lost there* first year with the big three. I think Curry and Durant would come back for one more go.

    If they don't win a ring by next June, it will definitely implode.
    They have already talked about how they are supposed to hate each other but don't. They both are free agents after this year, unlike the Heat. LeBron and Wade are actually friends.

    Their real employers are Under Armour and Nike. If they want them to leave, they will.