Sa'Vell Smalls, 6* 2020 BUCK, Seattle (Kennedy), WA (SIGNED)
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He’s probably going to be good because he has the talent, but nobody seems to ever be overly impressed with his play. The camp at PLU was the same thing. He didn’t really stand out.DoogWhisperer said:Savvy’s got work to do.
I think Tryon is a pretty good comparison for Smalls, and I would be happy with that. It’s going to take some time, but with good coaching, he will improve and eventually be good.
Getting worked in the Under Armour camp and when he gets to UW could be good for him. I do think he’s lived off the hype a bit too much and not been as focused as he should be at being the best player possible. -
Do you guys realize how much damage this racist crap will do to the program? It will take at least 2000 tagged videos and retweets to undo the damage
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He plays like a guy who's been able to dominate all of his competition by just being a better athlete. Versus a lot of kids from talent rich states who've had to learn technique to succeed against more athletic competition
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So we caused 15 minutes worth of damage?bananasnblondes said:Do you guys realize how much damage this racist crap will do to the program? It will take at least 2000 tagged videos and retweets to undo the damage
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This is why it could be good for him. I don’t think the 5 star ranking as a sophomore was good for him development wise. Or having a coach that says, “The disrespect is unreal” because he’s ranked as the 4th best player in the country.NEsnake12 said:He plays like a guy who's been able to dominate all of his competition by just being a better athlete. Versus a lot of kids from talent rich states who've had to learn technique to succeed against more athletic competition
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It's absurd that a coach would say that. What a horrible motivation tool and of course he's going to end up coddled after that.RoadDawg55 said:
This is why it could be good for him. I don’t think the 5 star ranking as a sophomore was good for him development wise. Or having a coach that says, “The disrespect is unreal” because he’s ranked as the 4th best player in the country.NEsnake12 said:He plays like a guy who's been able to dominate all of his competition by just being a better athlete. Versus a lot of kids from talent rich states who've had to learn technique to succeed against more athletic competition
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absurd but not unexpected because a high school coach of a player like that will either be the kid's leader or will waterski behind the kid's reputation for his own personal gain in a lot of cases. His coach acted like Savvy's best choice as agent but actually probably held him back from reaching his potential.GreenRiverGatorz said:
It's absurd that a coach would say that. What a horrible motivation tool and of course he's going to end up coddled after that.RoadDawg55 said:
This is why it could be good for him. I don’t think the 5 star ranking as a sophomore was good for him development wise. Or having a coach that says, “The disrespect is unreal” because he’s ranked as the 4th best player in the country.NEsnake12 said:He plays like a guy who's been able to dominate all of his competition by just being a better athlete. Versus a lot of kids from talent rich states who've had to learn technique to succeed against more athletic competition
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This is a good comparison, however I think Smalls' development ends up being a bit quicker than Tryon's, and I think Smalls has a slightly higher ceiling. I predict Smalls' career to go something like:RoadDawg55 said:
He’s probably going to be good because he has the talent, but nobody seems to ever be overly impressed with his play. The camp at PLU was the same thing. He didn’t really stand out.DoogWhisperer said:Savvy’s got work to do.
I think Tryon is a pretty good comparison for Smalls, and I would be happy with that. It’s going to take some time, but with good coaching, he will improve and eventually be good.
Getting worked in the Under Armour camp and when he gets to UW could be good for him. I do think he’s lived off the hype a bit too much and not been as focused as he should be at being the best player possible.
Freshman - Mostly spot playing time, 1-3 sacks and a handful of tackles (not too dissimilar from what we got from Latu, but maybe slightly better)
Sophmore - Makes a big jump in development and fills one of the Tryon/Bowman spots full time, 5-8 sacks with some occasional splash plays, Honorable mention all-Pac 12
Junior - Takes another step forward and is all-Pac 12 1st team with 10+ sacks and leaves early for the NFL -
That’s kind of how I feel. I think once the light comes on he will be good, but he’s not at that point yet. Glad we got him and he’s definitely the best DE/OLB prospect we have had sign with us. He will be big enough to be stout against run and explosive enough to be a great pass rusher.Woof said:
This is a good comparison, however I think Smalls' development ends up being a bit quicker than Tryon's, and I think Smalls has a slightly higher ceiling. I predict Smalls' career to go something like:RoadDawg55 said:
He’s probably going to be good because he has the talent, but nobody seems to ever be overly impressed with his play. The camp at PLU was the same thing. He didn’t really stand out.DoogWhisperer said:Savvy’s got work to do.
I think Tryon is a pretty good comparison for Smalls, and I would be happy with that. It’s going to take some time, but with good coaching, he will improve and eventually be good.
Getting worked in the Under Armour camp and when he gets to UW could be good for him. I do think he’s lived off the hype a bit too much and not been as focused as he should be at being the best player possible.
Freshman - Mostly spot playing time, 1-3 sacks and a handful of tackles (not too dissimilar from what we got from Latu, but maybe slightly better)
Sophmore - Makes a big jump in development and fills one of the Tryon/Bowman spots full time, 5-8 sacks with some occasional splash plays, Honorable mention all-Pac 12
Junior - Takes another step forward and is all-Pac 12 1st team with 10+ sacks and leaves early for the NFL -
Look at his feet, tho. He has the athleticism and his body and feet work in sync. Tryon didn’t look like this in HS or even his freshman year.DoogWhisperer said:Savvy’s got work to do.
Savvy just needs some Kwat/Malloe coaching.
He’ll be Josh Shirley his frosh year and a terror the rest. -
I think Tryon is the complete opposite comp. Tryon was a physical late bloomer who nobody wanted because he didn't emerge athletically until his senior year but was still completely raw.
Smalls was a physical man child who the sole world wanted by halfway through his sophomore year and probably coasted a bit thanks to being coddled and having everything come too easy for him for awhile.
I think Smalls will take a year before he dominates to rediscover his work ethic and adjust to playing at a level where he isn't the best player just by showing up. But he isn't going to have to grow into his body or learn to play football like Tryon did after getting here.
He'll make an impact quite a bit sooner than Tryon did IMO. -
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When I'm in Seattle
Agree. I'm not sure his ceiling is higher though. Tryon is taller, heavier, longer limbed, and probably similar as far as athletic measurables. Hes a freak prospect.dnc said:I think Tryon is the complete opposite comp. Tryon was a physical late bloomer who nobody wanted because he didn't emerge athletically until his senior year but was still completely raw.
Smalls was a physical man child who the sole world wanted by halfway through his sophomore year and probably coasted a bit thanks to being coddled and having everything come too easy for him for awhile.
I think Smalls will take a year before he dominates to rediscover his work ethic and adjust to playing at a level where he isn't the best player just by showing up. But he isn't going to have to grow into his body or learn to play football like Tryon did after getting here.
He'll make an impact quite a bit sooner than Tryon did IMO. -
I think we're all saying kind of the same thing. Smalls has some work to do, but the tools are there and he's going to get great coaching.
For a late bloomer, Tryon made 2nd team all Pac-12 in his rs-So year, and is probably a good candidate to go pro and be a day 2 pick after next season. -
I don’t think Tryon was that much more raw coming into UW. I think the athleticism was always there, he just played for a terrible high school program and was largely ignored because of that.dnc said:I think Tryon is the complete opposite comp. Tryon was a physical late bloomer who nobody wanted because he didn't emerge athletically until his senior year but was still completely raw.
Smalls was a physical man child who the sole world wanted by halfway through his sophomore year and probably coasted a bit thanks to being coddled and having everything come too easy for him for awhile.
I think Smalls will take a year before he dominates to rediscover his work ethic and adjust to playing at a level where he isn't the best player just by showing up. But he isn't going to have to grow into his body or learn to play football like Tryon did after getting here.
He'll make an impact quite a bit sooner than Tryon did IMO.
Smalls is far from a finished product. His high school career basically stalling out after his sophomore year wasn’t because he developed early, but more because he was ranked high, got really caught up in the hoopla. He also had shitty coaching as Tryon did too.
I agree Smalls will make an impact before Tryon. It took Tryon until late in his redshirt freshman year to do anything. Smalls won’t redshirt, but I doubt he plays that much with Tryon, Bowman, Latu, and possibly Trice in front of him. I hope he flashes this year, but I won’t count on it. I will count on him his soohomore year.
Some pretend like Bowman sucks because he’s white, short, and was a walk-on, but he’s a solid player that was All Pac 12 2nd team this year. He might even be better than solid. He was 2nd on the team in tackles for loss and 2nd in sacks behind Tryon. He also forced 3 fumbles. Tryon and Bowman are getting the majority of the snaps outside and Latu should have a larger role in year two as well. -
This sounds both mean and racist.dnc said:I think Tryon is the complete opposite comp. Tryon was a physical late bloomer who nobody wanted because he didn't emerge athletically until his senior year but was still completely raw.
Smalls was a physical man child who the sole world wanted by halfway through his sophomore year and probably coasted a bit thanks to being coddled and having everything come too easy for him for awhile.
I think Smalls will take a year before he dominates to rediscover his work ethic and adjust to playing at a level where he isn't the best player just by showing up. But he isn't going to have to grow into his body or learn to play football like Tryon did after getting here.
He'll make an impact quite a bit sooner than Tryon did IMO. -
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This sounds both mean and racist.dnc said:I think Tryon is the complete opposite comp. Tryon was a physical late bloomer who nobody wanted because he didn't emerge athletically until his senior year but was still completely raw.
Smalls was a physical man child who the sole world wanted by halfway through his sophomore year and probably coasted a bit thanks to being coddled and having everything come too easy for him for awhile.
I think Smalls will take a year before he dominates to rediscover his work ethic and adjust to playing at a level where he isn't the best player just by showing up. But he isn't going to have to grow into his body or learn to play football like Tryon did after getting here.
He'll make an impact quite a bit sooner than Tryon did IMO. -
Whoops.chuck said:Hot chicks can be found anywhere and everywhere. I love me some cowgirls with a little meat on them and there are a fair bunch of them where I live.
When I'm in Seattle
Agree. I'm not sure his ceiling is higher though. Tryon is taller, heavier, longer limbed, and probably similar as far as athletic measurables. Hes a freak prospect.dnc said:I think Tryon is the complete opposite comp. Tryon was a physical late bloomer who nobody wanted because he didn't emerge athletically until his senior year but was still completely raw.
Smalls was a physical man child who the sole world wanted by halfway through his sophomore year and probably coasted a bit thanks to being coddled and having everything come too easy for him for awhile.
I think Smalls will take a year before he dominates to rediscover his work ethic and adjust to playing at a level where he isn't the best player just by showing up. But he isn't going to have to grow into his body or learn to play football like Tryon did after getting here.
He'll make an impact quite a bit sooner than Tryon did IMO. -
Bowman is going to be 2020's guy that turns out really good but people pretend is terribleRoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think Tryon was that much more raw coming into UW. I think the athleticism was always there, he just played for a terrible high school program and was largely ignored because of that.dnc said:I think Tryon is the complete opposite comp. Tryon was a physical late bloomer who nobody wanted because he didn't emerge athletically until his senior year but was still completely raw.
Smalls was a physical man child who the sole world wanted by halfway through his sophomore year and probably coasted a bit thanks to being coddled and having everything come too easy for him for awhile.
I think Smalls will take a year before he dominates to rediscover his work ethic and adjust to playing at a level where he isn't the best player just by showing up. But he isn't going to have to grow into his body or learn to play football like Tryon did after getting here.
He'll make an impact quite a bit sooner than Tryon did IMO.
Smalls is far from a finished product. His high school career basically stalling out after his sophomore year wasn’t because he developed early, but more because he was ranked high, got really caught up in the hoopla. He also had shitty coaching as Tryon did too.
I agree Smalls will make an impact before Tryon. It took Tryon until late in his redshirt freshman year to do anything. Smalls won’t redshirt, but I doubt he plays that much with Tryon, Bowman, Latu, and possibly Trice in front of him. I hope he flashes this year, but I won’t count on it. I will count on him his soohomore year.
Some pretend like Bowman sucks because he’s white, short, and was a walk-on, but he’s a solid player that was All Pac 12 2nd team this year. He might even be better than solid. He was 2nd on the team in tackles for loss and 2nd in sacks behind Tryon. He also forced 3 fumbles. Tryon and Bowman are getting the majority of the snaps outside and Latu should have a larger role in year two as well. -
I am the king of this game.bananasnblondes said:
Bowman is going to be 2020's guy that turns out really good but people pretend is terribleRoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think Tryon was that much more raw coming into UW. I think the athleticism was always there, he just played for a terrible high school program and was largely ignored because of that.dnc said:I think Tryon is the complete opposite comp. Tryon was a physical late bloomer who nobody wanted because he didn't emerge athletically until his senior year but was still completely raw.
Smalls was a physical man child who the sole world wanted by halfway through his sophomore year and probably coasted a bit thanks to being coddled and having everything come too easy for him for awhile.
I think Smalls will take a year before he dominates to rediscover his work ethic and adjust to playing at a level where he isn't the best player just by showing up. But he isn't going to have to grow into his body or learn to play football like Tryon did after getting here.
He'll make an impact quite a bit sooner than Tryon did IMO.
Smalls is far from a finished product. His high school career basically stalling out after his sophomore year wasn’t because he developed early, but more because he was ranked high, got really caught up in the hoopla. He also had shitty coaching as Tryon did too.
I agree Smalls will make an impact before Tryon. It took Tryon until late in his redshirt freshman year to do anything. Smalls won’t redshirt, but I doubt he plays that much with Tryon, Bowman, Latu, and possibly Trice in front of him. I hope he flashes this year, but I won’t count on it. I will count on him his soohomore year.
Some pretend like Bowman sucks because he’s white, short, and was a walk-on, but he’s a solid player that was All Pac 12 2nd team this year. He might even be better than solid. He was 2nd on the team in tackles for loss and 2nd in sacks behind Tryon. He also forced 3 fumbles. Tryon and Bowman are getting the majority of the snaps outside and Latu should have a larger role in year two as well. -
Bowman is a solid player. He's the ideal 20-25 snaps a game give it full effort. Since we've got better depth coming in we don't need him trying to carry the majority of the load.
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Bowman is not bad, but he has some limitations. But he is the best we got so we had to play him. He probably would have been a better DT
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Haha. No idea wtf that first part was about. This thread has had some twists and turns though.CallMeBigErn said:
Whoops.chuck said:Hot chicks can be found anywhere and everywhere. I love me some cowgirls with a little meat on them and there are a fair bunch of them where I live.
When I'm in Seattle
Agree. I'm not sure his ceiling is higher though. Tryon is taller, heavier, longer limbed, and probably similar as far as athletic measurables. Hes a freak prospect.dnc said:I think Tryon is the complete opposite comp. Tryon was a physical late bloomer who nobody wanted because he didn't emerge athletically until his senior year but was still completely raw.
Smalls was a physical man child who the sole world wanted by halfway through his sophomore year and probably coasted a bit thanks to being coddled and having everything come too easy for him for awhile.
I think Smalls will take a year before he dominates to rediscover his work ethic and adjust to playing at a level where he isn't the best player just by showing up. But he isn't going to have to grow into his body or learn to play football like Tryon did after getting here.
He'll make an impact quite a bit sooner than Tryon did IMO. -
Yep. When he’s gone, people will realize he was pretty good. He’s stout against the run and the next best pass rusher after Tryon.bananasnblondes said:
Bowman is going to be 2020's guy that turns out really good but people pretend is terribleRoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think Tryon was that much more raw coming into UW. I think the athleticism was always there, he just played for a terrible high school program and was largely ignored because of that.dnc said:I think Tryon is the complete opposite comp. Tryon was a physical late bloomer who nobody wanted because he didn't emerge athletically until his senior year but was still completely raw.
Smalls was a physical man child who the sole world wanted by halfway through his sophomore year and probably coasted a bit thanks to being coddled and having everything come too easy for him for awhile.
I think Smalls will take a year before he dominates to rediscover his work ethic and adjust to playing at a level where he isn't the best player just by showing up. But he isn't going to have to grow into his body or learn to play football like Tryon did after getting here.
He'll make an impact quite a bit sooner than Tryon did IMO.
Smalls is far from a finished product. His high school career basically stalling out after his sophomore year wasn’t because he developed early, but more because he was ranked high, got really caught up in the hoopla. He also had shitty coaching as Tryon did too.
I agree Smalls will make an impact before Tryon. It took Tryon until late in his redshirt freshman year to do anything. Smalls won’t redshirt, but I doubt he plays that much with Tryon, Bowman, Latu, and possibly Trice in front of him. I hope he flashes this year, but I won’t count on it. I will count on him his soohomore year.
Some pretend like Bowman sucks because he’s white, short, and was a walk-on, but he’s a solid player that was All Pac 12 2nd team this year. He might even be better than solid. He was 2nd on the team in tackles for loss and 2nd in sacks behind Tryon. He also forced 3 fumbles. Tryon and Bowman are getting the majority of the snaps outside and Latu should have a larger role in year two as well.
Like Potao’e and I’ve said Latu as well, he’s better in the DL. Bowman plays better with his hand down. He’s short but he is both quick and strong.
We play guys out of position because we lack ideal body types outside. Smalls, Trice, and Tryon are a step in the right direction, but we should have at least two more guys that are 6’3” or taller and 245-265 pounds.
Bowman just doesn’t have the body that is ideal but he can play. -
Bowman is a creature. I fucking love him. He has a ton of mass packed into a compact frame, but is still athletic as hell (38" vertical IIRC). I watch the way offensive players react when he hits them, whether it's a shoulder, forearm, or just a hand, and marvel at how much power he generates. He has some limitations too, and it's great that we have other talent piling up to share snaps, but I'm glad he's in the rotation.RoadDawg55 said:dnc said:I think Tryon is the complete opposite comp. Tryon was a physical late bloomer who nobody wanted because he didn't emerge athletically until his senior year but was still completely raw.
Smalls was a physical man child who the sole world wanted by halfway through his sophomore year and probably coasted a bit thanks to being coddled and having everything come too easy for him for awhile.
I think Smalls will take a year before he dominates to rediscover his work ethic and adjust to playing at a level where he isn't the best player just by showing up. But he isn't going to have to grow into his body or learn to play football like Tryon did after getting here.
He'll make an impact quite a bit sooner than Tryon did IMO.
Some pretend like Bowman sucks because he’s white, short, and was a walk-on, but he’s a solid player that was All Pac 12 2nd team this year. He might even be better than solid. He was 2nd on the team in tackles for loss and 2nd in sacks behind Tryon. He also forced 3 fumbles. Tryon and Bowman are getting the majority of the snaps outside and Latu should have a larger role in year two as well.
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I wish we would go back to lining up like we did in 2014 at times. Two big DT’s, a guy like Bowman or Latu at DE In the Andrew Hudson role and Tryon/Smalls in the Kikaha role. Latu would be much better served in a role like that than standing up a few yards off the LOS. He could get to 290 easily. If he was a NFL player getting ready for the draft, he would be a 3-4 DE or the run stopping DE in a 4-3.FireCohen said:Bowman is not bad, but he has some limitations. But he is the best we got so we had to play him. He probably would have been a better DT
Against air raid teams, Latu and Bowman can even play inside since most of those teams don’t run the ball much. -
Buddy... you’re now king of sleepless nights, chapped nips and the occasional pity reach around.Swaye said:
I am the king of this game.bananasnblondes said:
Bowman is going to be 2020's guy that turns out really good but people pretend is terribleRoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think Tryon was that much more raw coming into UW. I think the athleticism was always there, he just played for a terrible high school program and was largely ignored because of that.dnc said:I think Tryon is the complete opposite comp. Tryon was a physical late bloomer who nobody wanted because he didn't emerge athletically until his senior year but was still completely raw.
Smalls was a physical man child who the sole world wanted by halfway through his sophomore year and probably coasted a bit thanks to being coddled and having everything come too easy for him for awhile.
I think Smalls will take a year before he dominates to rediscover his work ethic and adjust to playing at a level where he isn't the best player just by showing up. But he isn't going to have to grow into his body or learn to play football like Tryon did after getting here.
He'll make an impact quite a bit sooner than Tryon did IMO.
Smalls is far from a finished product. His high school career basically stalling out after his sophomore year wasn’t because he developed early, but more because he was ranked high, got really caught up in the hoopla. He also had shitty coaching as Tryon did too.
I agree Smalls will make an impact before Tryon. It took Tryon until late in his redshirt freshman year to do anything. Smalls won’t redshirt, but I doubt he plays that much with Tryon, Bowman, Latu, and possibly Trice in front of him. I hope he flashes this year, but I won’t count on it. I will count on him his soohomore year.
Some pretend like Bowman sucks because he’s white, short, and was a walk-on, but he’s a solid player that was All Pac 12 2nd team this year. He might even be better than solid. He was 2nd on the team in tackles for loss and 2nd in sacks behind Tryon. He also forced 3 fumbles. Tryon and Bowman are getting the majority of the snaps outside and Latu should have a larger role in year two as well. -
A side note about Bowman is that he’s played well against good teams. Played well in the conference title game last year and was our lineman of the game. Sack in the Rose Bowl. Tackle for loss and a fumble recovery against Penn State.
So that should kill the bullshit we say about overachievers (it won’t tho) that they don’t play well against good competition because in our toughest games Bowman has performed. -
Yeah, if you get him the right match up he has produced very wellRoadDawg55 said:A side note about Bowman is that he’s played well against good teams. Played well in the conference title game last year and was our lineman of the game. Sack in the Rose Bowl. Tackle for loss and a fumble recovery against Penn State.
So that should kill the bullshit we say about overachievers (it won’t tho) that they don’t play well against good competition because in our toughest games Bowman has performed. -
No DL or Buck should play more than probably 50% of the snaps outside of Levi and Tryon. The rest of them should rotate a lot and always be fresh to get the most out of them.DawgDaze71 said:Bowman is a solid player. He's the ideal 20-25 snaps a game give it full effort. Since we've got better depth coming in we don't need him trying to carry the majority of the load.
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@dnc true?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!dirtysouwfdawg said:
Buddy... you’re now king of sleepless nights, chapped nips and the occasional pity reach around.Swaye said:
I am the king of this game.bananasnblondes said:
Bowman is going to be 2020's guy that turns out really good but people pretend is terribleRoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think Tryon was that much more raw coming into UW. I think the athleticism was always there, he just played for a terrible high school program and was largely ignored because of that.dnc said:I think Tryon is the complete opposite comp. Tryon was a physical late bloomer who nobody wanted because he didn't emerge athletically until his senior year but was still completely raw.
Smalls was a physical man child who the sole world wanted by halfway through his sophomore year and probably coasted a bit thanks to being coddled and having everything come too easy for him for awhile.
I think Smalls will take a year before he dominates to rediscover his work ethic and adjust to playing at a level where he isn't the best player just by showing up. But he isn't going to have to grow into his body or learn to play football like Tryon did after getting here.
He'll make an impact quite a bit sooner than Tryon did IMO.
Smalls is far from a finished product. His high school career basically stalling out after his sophomore year wasn’t because he developed early, but more because he was ranked high, got really caught up in the hoopla. He also had shitty coaching as Tryon did too.
I agree Smalls will make an impact before Tryon. It took Tryon until late in his redshirt freshman year to do anything. Smalls won’t redshirt, but I doubt he plays that much with Tryon, Bowman, Latu, and possibly Trice in front of him. I hope he flashes this year, but I won’t count on it. I will count on him his soohomore year.
Some pretend like Bowman sucks because he’s white, short, and was a walk-on, but he’s a solid player that was All Pac 12 2nd team this year. He might even be better than solid. He was 2nd on the team in tackles for loss and 2nd in sacks behind Tryon. He also forced 3 fumbles. Tryon and Bowman are getting the majority of the snaps outside and Latu should have a larger role in year two as well.
