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Sa'Vell Smalls, 6* 2020 BUCK, Seattle (Kennedy), WA (SIGNED)

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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    dnc said:

    I think Tryon is the complete opposite comp. Tryon was a physical late bloomer who nobody wanted because he didn't emerge athletically until his senior year but was still completely raw.

    Smalls was a physical man child who the sole world wanted by halfway through his sophomore year and probably coasted a bit thanks to being coddled and having everything come too easy for him for awhile.

    I think Smalls will take a year before he dominates to rediscover his work ethic and adjust to playing at a level where he isn't the best player just by showing up. But he isn't going to have to grow into his body or learn to play football like Tryon did after getting here.

    He'll make an impact quite a bit sooner than Tryon did IMO.

    I don’t think Tryon was that much more raw coming into UW. I think the athleticism was always there, he just played for a terrible high school program and was largely ignored because of that.

    Smalls is far from a finished product. His high school career basically stalling out after his sophomore year wasn’t because he developed early, but more because he was ranked high, got really caught up in the hoopla. He also had shitty coaching as Tryon did too.

    I agree Smalls will make an impact before Tryon. It took Tryon until late in his redshirt freshman year to do anything. Smalls won’t redshirt, but I doubt he plays that much with Tryon, Bowman, Latu, and possibly Trice in front of him. I hope he flashes this year, but I won’t count on it. I will count on him his soohomore year.

    Some pretend like Bowman sucks because he’s white, short, and was a walk-on, but he’s a solid player that was All Pac 12 2nd team this year. He might even be better than solid. He was 2nd on the team in tackles for loss and 2nd in sacks behind Tryon. He also forced 3 fumbles. Tryon and Bowman are getting the majority of the snaps outside and Latu should have a larger role in year two as well.
    Bowman is going to be 2020's guy that turns out really good but people pretend is terrible
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137
    edited January 2020
    No mention of Smalls at the Under Armour practices. Are the ranking the players again for a final one?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    No mention of Smalls at the Under Armour practices. Are the ranking the players again for a final one?

    Ask @dnc
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    No mention of Smalls at the Under Armour practices. Are the ranking the players again for a final one?

    I would guess yes
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Confirmed: There will be another rankings update.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,894 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Confirmed: There will be another rankings update.

    All right we get it. Turn it down a notch and stop being so mean
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,511
    Yeah, Biggins said they do one after the all america games. I think he said Garbers, Murao, and Redman will likely see the biggest rise. He also said he likes Smalls where hes at but I bet he goes down to a 4 star
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Yeah, Biggins said they do one after the all america games. I think he said Garbers, Murao, and Redman will likely see the biggest rise. He also said he likes Smalls where hes at but I bet he goes down to a 4 star

    I bet he stays a 5 star but drops in the numerical rankings.
  • Neighbor2972
    Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,330
    dnc said:

    Yeah, Biggins said they do one after the all america games. I think he said Garbers, Murao, and Redman will likely see the biggest rise. He also said he likes Smalls where hes at but I bet he goes down to a 4 star

    I bet he stays a 5 star but drops in the numerical rankings.
    Yeah they don't like dropping stars, would have to admit they were wrong
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    Yeah, Biggins said they do one after the all america games. I think he said Garbers, Murao, and Redman will likely see the biggest rise. He also said he likes Smalls where hes at but I bet he goes down to a 4 star

    I bet he stays a 5 star but drops in the numerical rankings.
    Yeah they don't like dropping stars, would have to admit they were wrong
    Also it's based on pro potential and Smalls has as much potential as he ever did.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    dnc said:

    Yeah, Biggins said they do one after the all america games. I think he said Garbers, Murao, and Redman will likely see the biggest rise. He also said he likes Smalls where hes at but I bet he goes down to a 4 star

    I bet he stays a 5 star but drops in the numerical rankings.
    Yeah they don't like dropping stars, would have to admit they were wrong
    Disrespect is unreal
  • Theironshiek
    Theironshiek Member Posts: 167
    Doesn’t seem super explosive in the game but it’s a small sample size
  • OneNipple
    OneNipple Member Posts: 186

    Doesn’t seem super explosive in the game but it’s a small sample size

    Asking for a Fren, but can you give me examples of being explosive vs super explosive?
  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,288 Standard Supporter
    He got trucked a couple times. Also his senior year stats are really weird for a 5 star.
  • Neighbor2972
    Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,330
    Savell had a sack to basically end the game, was mostly a coverage sack but he had a really nice pass rush move the play before
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,103
    dnc said:

    Yeah, Biggins said they do one after the all america games. I think he said Garbers, Murao, and Redman will likely see the biggest rise. He also said he likes Smalls where hes at but I bet he goes down to a 4 star

    I bet he stays a 5 star but drops in the numerical rankings.
    Of course you’d say this.
  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,288 Standard Supporter

    Savell had a sack to basically end the game, was mostly a coverage sack but he had a really nice pass rush move the play before

    Yeah that was a cleanup sack. Coverage was good and someone else collapsed the pocket and he stuck with it to finish the play.
  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,288 Standard Supporter

    dtd said:

    He got trucked a couple times. Also his senior year stats are really weird for a 5 star.

    He’s got a ways to go. He has potential but he’s not a real 5 star that you would expect. I know they say the ratings are for NFL potential, but most fans expect a 5 star to be immediate contributors. He could have a role this year, but it won’t be much. We are fucked if he’s a key player year one. I’ve been saying it for months. It’s going to be a year or two until he does anything.

    Nobody has been impressed by his play in awhile. I like him, but the hype has always been overblown. That’s not bashing him, it’s just what it is right now.
    He didn't even have 30 tackles as a senior. I wish Oregon had landed him, but yeah, he's overrated until he isn't.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137
    dtd said:

    dtd said:

    He got trucked a couple times. Also his senior year stats are really weird for a 5 star.

    He’s got a ways to go. He has potential but he’s not a real 5 star that you would expect. I know they say the ratings are for NFL potential, but most fans expect a 5 star to be immediate contributors. He could have a role this year, but it won’t be much. We are fucked if he’s a key player year one. I’ve been saying it for months. It’s going to be a year or two until he does anything.

    Nobody has been impressed by his play in awhile. I like him, but the hype has always been overblown. That’s not bashing him, it’s just what it is right now.
    He didn't even have 30 tackles as a senior. I wish Oregon had landed him, but yeah, he's overrated until he isn't.
    Not sure how reliable those stats are. I know he at least had a few tackles against Woodinville, but they aren’t listed on MaxPreps.

    He coasted after getting tons of offers his sophomore year.

    The concerning part is that he wasn’t mentioned in the UA practices report and when he went to the local camp at PLU, he lost his battles against a Puyallup OT. A 5 star DL should be enough in Washington high school football to at least be respectable against the run. Woodinville ran all over them all night. It’s a team game but I’ve seen 3 star guys from Washington single handily keep their team in the game. I used to play against a few of them.

    If you can’t currently get it done in those type of settings, it’s not magically going to happen initially at UW.

    He needs to be developed. I’m not sure if it’s a motivation issue or if he’s just not that good. EWIWBI.
  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,288 Standard Supporter
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    wow bunch a mean and racist post up in here. Can't believe this place, might considerer going and hurting myself now.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Rivals National Recruiting Director Mike Farrell (who sucks) wasn't impressed:

    *****

    Sav’ell Smalls, a five-star as well, will also be debated. He had a solid game but didn’t stand out much this week and I don’t see him as a freaky hybrid athlete. I expected more.

    *****

    I would guess he drops to a 4 star on Rivals but stays as a 5 star on 247. ESPN stopped paying attention months ago so I doubt he moves there. So he should stay as a 5 star on Composite unless he drops bigly on Rivals, which I doubt.
  • BeerThirty
    BeerThirty Member Posts: 2,465
    I think Smalls has been talked up a bit too much by certain Twitter pros. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't make it into 4 games in 2020. The base is there though, if he works hard he could be special