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Sa'Vell Smalls, 6* 2020 BUCK, Seattle (Kennedy), WA (SIGNED)

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    GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
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    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    Here's what I don't get about this whole deal. You hear Savell is a smart kid. You hear Savell is interested in the business world and life after football. And yet these are the places he has expressed interested in playing:
    Eugene, Pullman, Gainseville, Tallahasse, College Station, Tuscaloosa. I'm not thinking the contacts you make in those communities are going to vault you forward after football is over. Austin makes sense to me. Seattle makes sense to me. Both destination locales for business and tech for the next twenty years at least. Of course everyone wants him to stay home but if he doesn't, and he's as smart as everyone says, then I get Univ. of Texas.

    Those are all negligible differences when you have an NFL future. Most football players aren't looking to get into UW's comp sci program so that they can make six figures right out of college in a major tech hub. Most of them are going to major in something useless like communications, and if football falls through, use their profile to get in with a well-connected alum in an industry they probably didn't study towards. It's not like we offer anything in that department that gives us a leg up over any of the schools you listed (besides WSU).
    I thought I read Savell was interested in the business world after football. Was that incorrect? I assumed, maybe wrongly, that since he has a reputation as being a strong student he would be avoiding the communications major and steering towards business. Happy to be corrected.
    The same concept would apply for a generic business admin degree too. There is not a material difference between UW's undergrad Foster programs and the b schools of his top 6. This isn't an MBA we're talking about. If he wants to major in business at Bama for example, he'll have plenty of post grad opportunities in the Atlanta metro area. Bottom line, this kind of thing is rarely a consideration for an athlete with clear cut NFL potential.
    While I agree that it's probably not much of a consideration, I doubt that the undergrad business degrees at his top 6 are comparable. U.S. News ranked UW's undergraduate business program as 21st best in the nation and 11th among public universities in 2019.
    And for a technical business program like finance, MIS, or accounting, I would guess that the separation is a little more clear. But I don't think business admin, the most likely program for an athlete like Smalls, has that kind of separation. It's a one size fits all degree for most schools.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    Here's what I don't get about this whole deal. You hear Savell is a smart kid. You hear Savell is interested in the business world and life after football. And yet these are the places he has expressed interested in playing:
    Eugene, Pullman, Gainseville, Tallahasse, College Station, Tuscaloosa. I'm not thinking the contacts you make in those communities are going to vault you forward after football is over. Austin makes sense to me. Seattle makes sense to me. Both destination locales for business and tech for the next twenty years at least. Of course everyone wants him to stay home but if he doesn't, and he's as smart as everyone says, then I get Univ. of Texas.

    Those are all negligible differences when you have an NFL future. Most football players aren't looking to get into UW's comp sci program so that they can make six figures right out of college in a major tech hub. Most of them are going to major in something useless like communications, and if football falls through, use their profile to get in with a well-connected alum in an industry they probably didn't study towards. It's not like we offer anything in that department that gives us a leg up over any of the schools you listed (besides WSU).
    I thought I read Savell was interested in the business world after football. Was that incorrect? I assumed, maybe wrongly, that since he has a reputation as being a strong student he would be avoiding the communications major and steering towards business. Happy to be corrected.
    The same concept would apply for a generic business admin degree too. There is not a material difference between UW's undergrad Foster programs and the b schools of his top 6. This isn't an MBA we're talking about. If he wants to major in business at Bama for example, he'll have plenty of post grad opportunities in the Atlanta metro area. Bottom line, this kind of thing is rarely a consideration for an athlete with clear cut NFL potential.
    That's interesting. Kind of makes it sound like the whole Built for Life angle that Pete is pushing doesn't hold a lot of sway with future NFL types. I would of thought though that Savell's reputed smartness would help him realize that he's just one bad injury away from having to consider an alternate future.
    Most of these kids aren't guaranteed top ten picks in three years if their coaching and development doesn't screw things up. Sa'Vell's just on a different level than most of the recruits.

    For him, he's going to be the brand for his business. Whatever school gives him the biggest platform is the one that's best for his business future.
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    dnc said:

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    Here's what I don't get about this whole deal. You hear Savell is a smart kid. You hear Savell is interested in the business world and life after football. And yet these are the places he has expressed interested in playing:
    Eugene, Pullman, Gainseville, Tallahasse, College Station, Tuscaloosa. I'm not thinking the contacts you make in those communities are going to vault you forward after football is over. Austin makes sense to me. Seattle makes sense to me. Both destination locales for business and tech for the next twenty years at least. Of course everyone wants him to stay home but if he doesn't, and he's as smart as everyone says, then I get Univ. of Texas.

    Those are all negligible differences when you have an NFL future. Most football players aren't looking to get into UW's comp sci program so that they can make six figures right out of college in a major tech hub. Most of them are going to major in something useless like communications, and if football falls through, use their profile to get in with a well-connected alum in an industry they probably didn't study towards. It's not like we offer anything in that department that gives us a leg up over any of the schools you listed (besides WSU).
    I thought I read Savell was interested in the business world after football. Was that incorrect? I assumed, maybe wrongly, that since he has a reputation as being a strong student he would be avoiding the communications major and steering towards business. Happy to be corrected.
    The same concept would apply for a generic business admin degree too. There is not a material difference between UW's undergrad Foster programs and the b schools of his top 6. This isn't an MBA we're talking about. If he wants to major in business at Bama for example, he'll have plenty of post grad opportunities in the Atlanta metro area. Bottom line, this kind of thing is rarely a consideration for an athlete with clear cut NFL potential.
    That's interesting. Kind of makes it sound like the whole Built for Life angle that Pete is pushing doesn't hold a lot of sway with future NFL types. I would of thought though that Savell's reputed smartness would help him realize that he's just one bad injury away from having to consider an alternate future.
    Most of these kids aren't guaranteed top ten picks in three years if their coaching and development doesn't screw things up. Sa'Vell's just on a different level than most of the recruits.

    For him, he's going to be the brand for his business. Whatever school gives him the biggest platform is the one that's best for his business future.
    Sounds like he should get his shit together or put Sven in charge
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    FirePete said:

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    Here's what I don't get about this whole deal. You hear Savell is a smart kid. You hear Savell is interested in the business world and life after football. And yet these are the places he has expressed interested in playing:
    Eugene, Pullman, Gainseville, Tallahasse, College Station, Tuscaloosa. I'm not thinking the contacts you make in those communities are going to vault you forward after football is over. Austin makes sense to me. Seattle makes sense to me. Both destination locales for business and tech for the next twenty years at least. Of course everyone wants him to stay home but if he doesn't, and he's as smart as everyone says, then I get Univ. of Texas.

    Those are all negligible differences when you have an NFL future. Most football players aren't looking to get into UW's comp sci program so that they can make six figures right out of college in a major tech hub. Most of them are going to major in something useless like communications, and if football falls through, use their profile to get in with a well-connected alum in an industry they probably didn't study towards. It's not like we offer anything in that department that gives us a leg up over any of the schools you listed (besides WSU).
    I thought I read Savell was interested in the business world after football. Was that incorrect? I assumed, maybe wrongly, that since he has a reputation as being a strong student he would be avoiding the communications major and steering towards business. Happy to be corrected.
    The same concept would apply for a generic business admin degree too. There is not a material difference between UW's undergrad Foster programs and the b schools of his top 6. This isn't an MBA we're talking about. If he wants to major in business at Bama for example, he'll have plenty of post grad opportunities in the Atlanta metro area. Bottom line, this kind of thing is rarely a consideration for an athlete with clear cut NFL potential.
    That's interesting. Kind of makes it sound like the whole Built for Life angle that Pete is pushing doesn't hold a lot of sway with future NFL types. I would of thought though that Savell's reputed smartness would help him realize that he's just one bad injury away from having to consider an alternate future.
    Beautiful thing about being young is that you don’t think about shit like that, because life has not disappointed you yet
    This. Ask me how I know.
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    ThoroughDawgThoroughDawg Member Posts: 186
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    whlinder said:

    dnc said:

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    Here's what I don't get about this whole deal. You hear Savell is a smart kid. You hear Savell is interested in the business world and life after football. And yet these are the places he has expressed interested in playing:
    Eugene, Pullman, Gainseville, Tallahasse, College Station, Tuscaloosa. I'm not thinking the contacts you make in those communities are going to vault you forward after football is over. Austin makes sense to me. Seattle makes sense to me. Both destination locales for business and tech for the next twenty years at least. Of course everyone wants him to stay home but if he doesn't, and he's as smart as everyone says, then I get Univ. of Texas.

    Those are all negligible differences when you have an NFL future. Most football players aren't looking to get into UW's comp sci program so that they can make six figures right out of college in a major tech hub. Most of them are going to major in something useless like communications, and if football falls through, use their profile to get in with a well-connected alum in an industry they probably didn't study towards. It's not like we offer anything in that department that gives us a leg up over any of the schools you listed (besides WSU).
    I thought I read Savell was interested in the business world after football. Was that incorrect? I assumed, maybe wrongly, that since he has a reputation as being a strong student he would be avoiding the communications major and steering towards business. Happy to be corrected.
    The same concept would apply for a generic business admin degree too. There is not a material difference between UW's undergrad Foster programs and the b schools of his top 6. This isn't an MBA we're talking about. If he wants to major in business at Bama for example, he'll have plenty of post grad opportunities in the Atlanta metro area. Bottom line, this kind of thing is rarely a consideration for an athlete with clear cut NFL potential.
    That's interesting. Kind of makes it sound like the whole Built for Life angle that Pete is pushing doesn't hold a lot of sway with future NFL types. I would of thought though that Savell's reputed smartness would help him realize that he's just one bad injury away from having to consider an alternate future.
    Most of these kids aren't guaranteed top ten picks in three years if their coaching and development doesn't screw things up. Sa'Vell's just on a different level than most of the recruits.

    For him, he's going to be the brand for his business. Whatever school gives him the biggest platform is the one that's best for his business future.
    Sounds like he should get his shit together or put Sven in charge
    Let’s check on that brand...
    I laffed
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    whlinder said:

    dnc said:

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    Here's what I don't get about this whole deal. You hear Savell is a smart kid. You hear Savell is interested in the business world and life after football. And yet these are the places he has expressed interested in playing:
    Eugene, Pullman, Gainseville, Tallahasse, College Station, Tuscaloosa. I'm not thinking the contacts you make in those communities are going to vault you forward after football is over. Austin makes sense to me. Seattle makes sense to me. Both destination locales for business and tech for the next twenty years at least. Of course everyone wants him to stay home but if he doesn't, and he's as smart as everyone says, then I get Univ. of Texas.

    Those are all negligible differences when you have an NFL future. Most football players aren't looking to get into UW's comp sci program so that they can make six figures right out of college in a major tech hub. Most of them are going to major in something useless like communications, and if football falls through, use their profile to get in with a well-connected alum in an industry they probably didn't study towards. It's not like we offer anything in that department that gives us a leg up over any of the schools you listed (besides WSU).
    I thought I read Savell was interested in the business world after football. Was that incorrect? I assumed, maybe wrongly, that since he has a reputation as being a strong student he would be avoiding the communications major and steering towards business. Happy to be corrected.
    The same concept would apply for a generic business admin degree too. There is not a material difference between UW's undergrad Foster programs and the b schools of his top 6. This isn't an MBA we're talking about. If he wants to major in business at Bama for example, he'll have plenty of post grad opportunities in the Atlanta metro area. Bottom line, this kind of thing is rarely a consideration for an athlete with clear cut NFL potential.
    That's interesting. Kind of makes it sound like the whole Built for Life angle that Pete is pushing doesn't hold a lot of sway with future NFL types. I would of thought though that Savell's reputed smartness would help him realize that he's just one bad injury away from having to consider an alternate future.
    Most of these kids aren't guaranteed top ten picks in three years if their coaching and development doesn't screw things up. Sa'Vell's just on a different level than most of the recruits.

    For him, he's going to be the brand for his business. Whatever school gives him the biggest platform is the one that's best for his business future.
    Sounds like he should get his shit together or put Sven in charge
    Let’s check on that brand...
    YBFE
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,609
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    UW networking in Seattle is no joke
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    AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 6,994
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    If you are an athlete and cAnt parlay a degree
    From any of those schools into something you are a moron. There are A lot of morons out there though. Just sayin.
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    HH networking is a fucking joke

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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,753
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    Let's put it this way

    Steve Largent went to Tulsa U but will never have to buy a drink in Seattle again. He doesn't drink but still. He went back to Oklahoma and won a Congress seat because no way Seattle voters go for him. But he didn't win in Oklahoma because he went to Tulsa. He won because he made the NFL HOF

    Curt Warner went to Penn State but started car dealerships in Seattle after his HAWK career.

    Point is the NFL career is the most important to the future,

    Sonny Sixkiller had no NFL career so he does Native Casinos ads @Swaye

    I remember renting a house in Seattle way back in the day and Tom Flick was the agent. Being a college star in Seattle is worth something

    Point taken but that was 3 or 4 generations ago, Pops.

    Odds are his millions will be made on a yet-to-be-designed social engineering, er social networking, platform of some type, probably involving cat or dog videos.

    Who knows what people will pay good money for in 10, 20 or 30 years?
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    Let's put it this way

    Steve Largent went to Tulsa U but will never have to buy a drink in Seattle again. He doesn't drink but still. He went back to Oklahoma and won a Congress seat because no way Seattle voters go for him. But he didn't win in Oklahoma because he went to Tulsa. He won because he made the NFL HOF

    Curt Warner went to Penn State but started car dealerships in Seattle after his HAWK career.

    Point is the NFL career is the most important to the future,

    Sonny Sixkiller had no NFL career so he does Native Casinos ads @Swaye

    I remember renting a house in Seattle way back in the day and Tom Flick was the agent. Being a college star in Seattle is worth something

    Point taken but that was 3 or 4 generations ago, Pops.

    Odds are his millions will be made on a yet-to-be-designed social engineering, er social networking, platform of some type, probably involving cat or dog videos.

    Who knows what people will pay good money for in 10, 20 or 30 years?
    Why does that matter?
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,753
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    Let's put it this way

    Steve Largent went to Tulsa U but will never have to buy a drink in Seattle again. He doesn't drink but still. He went back to Oklahoma and won a Congress seat because no way Seattle voters go for him. But he didn't win in Oklahoma because he went to Tulsa. He won because he made the NFL HOF

    Curt Warner went to Penn State but started car dealerships in Seattle after his HAWK career.

    Point is the NFL career is the most important to the future,

    Sonny Sixkiller had no NFL career so he does Native Casinos ads @Swaye

    I remember renting a house in Seattle way back in the day and Tom Flick was the agent. Being a college star in Seattle is worth something

    Point taken but that was 3 or 4 generations ago, Pops.

    Odds are his millions will be made on a yet-to-be-designed social engineering, er social networking, platform of some type, probably involving cat or dog videos.

    Who knows what people will pay good money for in 10, 20 or 30 years?
    Why does that matter?
    I don't think regional or geographic loyalties have the pull they once had now things are so interconnected through the web.

    And Smalls is all about blowing up Social Networking, where there's little tether to his hometown or NFL town roots.

    I don't think Michael Jordan pays for a drink anywhere, not just Chicago. And I think that's where it's headed.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,753
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    Smalls falls into the NFL category

    Well, I Tee'd that one up rather nicely for you, didn't I?

    I would've said LT, but he's got all those drug arrests. Or maybe OJ, until his minor scrape with the law in '94.

    I can't really think of an NFL guy who doesn't buy a drink anywhere, but I'm sure there are some, or else that day is coming. Maybe Smalls is THE guy.
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    They then reap the benefits of being a college star/NFL player for life.

    I've wondered about the reality of this. What are the benefits. I'm sure in some places it is the case and there is some name recognition benefit. However I've been to events and see purported fans of the Redskins fail to recognize Doug fucking Williams, not to mention numerous other former players.
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    whlinder said:


    They then reap the benefits of being a college star/NFL player for life.

    I've wondered about the reality of this. What are the benefits. I'm sure in some places it is the case and there is some name recognition benefit. However I've been to events and see purported fans of the Redskins fail to recognize Doug fucking Williams, not to mention numerous other former players.
    They might not recognize the face, but they recognize the name. In marketing most businesses, the name is all that matters.
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