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Colson Yankoff, 2018 QB, Coeur d' Alene, ID (COMMITTED)

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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,231
    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    backthepack said:

    Tequilla said:

    Sirmon has more physical talent ... but his intangibles need to get better to be a great QB ... that's part of being 17 and everybody matures differently ...

    Almost all top programs he will go to will find him in a position where he will have to compete ... it is what it is.

    There is room in this class for 2 QBs ... whether we will end up with 2 QBs is TBD

    Uhh does Sirmon vert 39" inches and run a 4.67 40 yard dash? Sirmon's arm talent is a bit better though.
    The most important physical characteristics for a QB are arm strength and height/weight.

    After that, the next set of most important skills for a QB are all in the mental intangible side of the game from reading defenses to leading a team.

    If overall physical ability was so important for a QB Then Tom Brady wouldn't be Tom Brady
    Those are backwards.
    They are like 1A and 1B ... if you don't have minimum arm strength it doesn't matter how smart you are ...
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    backthepack said:

    Tequilla said:

    Sirmon has more physical talent ... but his intangibles need to get better to be a great QB ... that's part of being 17 and everybody matures differently ...

    Almost all top programs he will go to will find him in a position where he will have to compete ... it is what it is.

    There is room in this class for 2 QBs ... whether we will end up with 2 QBs is TBD

    Uhh does Sirmon vert 39" inches and run a 4.67 40 yard dash? Sirmon's arm talent is a bit better though.
    The most important physical characteristics for a QB are arm strength and height/weight.

    After that, the next set of most important skills for a QB are all in the mental intangible side of the game from reading defenses to leading a team.

    If overall physical ability was so important for a QB Then Tom Brady wouldn't be Tom Brady
    Those are backwards.
    They are like 1A and 1B ... if you don't have minimum arm strength it doesn't matter how smart you are ...
    And if you don't have minimum smarts it doesn't matter how hard you can throw
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,231
    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    backthepack said:

    Tequilla said:

    Sirmon has more physical talent ... but his intangibles need to get better to be a great QB ... that's part of being 17 and everybody matures differently ...

    Almost all top programs he will go to will find him in a position where he will have to compete ... it is what it is.

    There is room in this class for 2 QBs ... whether we will end up with 2 QBs is TBD

    Uhh does Sirmon vert 39" inches and run a 4.67 40 yard dash? Sirmon's arm talent is a bit better though.
    The most important physical characteristics for a QB are arm strength and height/weight.

    After that, the next set of most important skills for a QB are all in the mental intangible side of the game from reading defenses to leading a team.

    If overall physical ability was so important for a QB Then Tom Brady wouldn't be Tom Brady
    Those are backwards.
    They are like 1A and 1B ... if you don't have minimum arm strength it doesn't matter how smart you are ...
    And if you don't have minimum smarts it doesn't matter how hard you can throw
    What about 1A and 1B do you not understand?

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  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    Yeah, obviously brain for a QB matters. But there is no way for us to know a kids brain in regards to football intelligence. That's one where you have to #TrustTheCoaches.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,231
    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    backthepack said:

    Tequilla said:

    Sirmon has more physical talent ... but his intangibles need to get better to be a great QB ... that's part of being 17 and everybody matures differently ...

    Almost all top programs he will go to will find him in a position where he will have to compete ... it is what it is.

    There is room in this class for 2 QBs ... whether we will end up with 2 QBs is TBD

    Uhh does Sirmon vert 39" inches and run a 4.67 40 yard dash? Sirmon's arm talent is a bit better though.
    The most important physical characteristics for a QB are arm strength and height/weight.

    After that, the next set of most important skills for a QB are all in the mental intangible side of the game from reading defenses to leading a team.

    If overall physical ability was so important for a QB Then Tom Brady wouldn't be Tom Brady
    Those are backwards.
    They are like 1A and 1B ... if you don't have minimum arm strength it doesn't matter how smart you are ...
    And if you don't have minimum smarts it doesn't matter how hard you can throw
    What about 1A and 1B do you not understand?

    What part of "After that, the next set of most important skills for a QB are all in the mental intangible side of the game from reading defenses to leading a team." don't you understand?

    The mental side takes a backseat to no set of skills. Browning's a great example of this. His height and weight are below average but sufficient, and his arm strength is way below average, but he's a damn good (not great) college QB because of what's above his shoulders.
    Because the initial comment from BTP was tied specifically to physical attributes ... there was no mention of anything between the ears ...

    It's a massively circular argument ... if you don't have the brain it doesn't matter what your physical tools are because you're massively behind the 8 ball ... and if you have the brain but not the physical skills you just can't play at a high level because it limits you and your team's ability to have a full playbook available.

    You're trying way too hard to get me in a "gotcha" moment ... leave that kind of stupidity to @RoadDawg55
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Yeah, obviously brain for a QB matters. But there is no way for us to know a kids brain in regards to football intelligence. That's one where you have to #TrustTheCoaches.

    I think this is probably true, but I would imagine there are some hints as far as to whether a kid is simply a one read guy, decision making, his leadership skills, etc.

    FWIW it seems that Sirmon has some leadership in him. He seems to enjoy recruiting and the other recruits seem to like him. That's not all there is to being a leader (see Williams, Troy), but it suggests he has the type of personality that could lead if he uses it correctly.
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  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    okay, this little bitchfight between you two is ruining the thread. just take it to PMs at this point.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,231
    RoadDawg55 said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    backthepack said:

    Tequilla said:

    Sirmon has more physical talent ... but his intangibles need to get better to be a great QB ... that's part of being 17 and everybody matures differently ...

    Almost all top programs he will go to will find him in a position where he will have to compete ... it is what it is.

    There is room in this class for 2 QBs ... whether we will end up with 2 QBs is TBD

    Uhh does Sirmon vert 39" inches and run a 4.67 40 yard dash? Sirmon's arm talent is a bit better though.
    The most important physical characteristics for a QB are arm strength and height/weight.

    After that, the next set of most important skills for a QB are all in the mental intangible side of the game from reading defenses to leading a team.

    If overall physical ability was so important for a QB Then Tom Brady wouldn't be Tom Brady
    Those are backwards.
    They are like 1A and 1B ... if you don't have minimum arm strength it doesn't matter how smart you are ...
    And if you don't have minimum smarts it doesn't matter how hard you can throw
    What about 1A and 1B do you not understand?

    What part of "After that, the next set of most important skills for a QB are all in the mental intangible side of the game from reading defenses to leading a team." don't you understand?

    The mental side takes a backseat to no set of skills. Browning's a great example of this. His height and weight are below average but sufficient, and his arm strength is way below average, but he's a damn good (not great) college QB because of what's above his shoulders.
    Because the initial comment from BTP was tied specifically to physical attributes ... there was no mention of anything between the ears ...

    It's a massively circular argument ... if you don't have the brain it doesn't matter what your physical tools are because you're massively behind the 8 ball ... and if you have the brain but not the physical skills you just can't play at a high level because it limits you and your team's ability to have a full playbook available.

    You're trying way too hard to get me in a "gotcha" moment ... leave that kind of stupidity to @RoadDawg55
    Thanks for thinking of me :).
    Not a problem ... @dnc has been channeling his inner you hard
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