What I think about taxes
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You see, part of your benefits goes into a pension. Just like business offer 401k plans and put money into that. When they put money into the pension, it grows over time. Then later you have an annuity that pays you out your earnings. And if the plan is fully funded, it's fully your money. Are you saying the Boeing mechanic that gets $45k a year in pension is sucking off Boeing's teet?TurdBuffer said:
Okay, expert: Enlighten.2001400ex said:
That's not how pensions work.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Bellotti doesn't need to be suckling off the state of Oregon's teat to the tune of $44,749.83 per month.2001400ex said:
It's almost like you don't understand how pensions work.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I'm more concerned that Mike Belotti will be able to continue to receive his lifetime monthly salary of $44,749.83 from Oregon PERS.2001400ex said:
Great idea. We don't need schools and police and shit.oregonblitzkrieg said:Property taxes are just another form of state sanctioned theft and should be abolished. As long as property taxes exist, no one truly owns the land they live on and the basement they sleep in, they are just renting it from the government. Fuck property taxes.
And you sound poor.
It's almost like you don't understand obscene government waste.
Again turdfucker, you are fucking clueless. How does it feel to get repeatedly gang raped by Hondo? -
Who gives a fuck. Rip it up.AZDuck said:HE HAD A CONTRACT!
Seriously. It's right there, in the Contracts clause of the Constitution. -
Again. The money is paid in during his tenure. What part of that don't you understand?oregonblitzkrieg said:
Who gives a fuck. Rip it up.AZDuck said:HE HAD A CONTRACT!
Seriously. It's right there, in the Contracts clause of the Constitution. -
I thought we liked the Constitution?oregonblitzkrieg said:
Who gives a fuck. Rip it up.AZDuck said:HE HAD A CONTRACT!
Seriously. It's right there, in the Contracts clause of the Constitution. -
Education of any level is a legitimate private good. Coercive force is not.AZDuck said:
Srsly. Do you really fucking think primary education and public safety are private goods? If so, kill your face with a rusty cheese grater in the ass. If you're trolling, well done.Fenderbender123 said:
Why pretend like taxes are the only way to pay for stuff? Are you incapable of spending money yourself?2001400ex said:
Great idea. We don't need schools and police and shit.oregonblitzkrieg said:Property taxes are just another form of state sanctioned theft and should be abolished. As long as property taxes exist, no one truly owns the land they live on and the basement they sleep in, they are just renting it from the government. Fuck property taxes.
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Gotta disagree. Education makes the pack (flock?) smarter and better. Also keeps the little hoodlums off the streets. Show me a country with an entirely private educational system and I'll show you sub-Saharan Africa, or the Middle Ages.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Education of any level is a legitimate private good. Coercive force is not.AZDuck said:
Srsly. Do you really fucking think primary education and public safety are private goods? If so, kill your face with a rusty cheese grater in the ass. If you're trolling, well done.Fenderbender123 said:
Why pretend like taxes are the only way to pay for stuff? Are you incapable of spending money yourself?2001400ex said:
Great idea. We don't need schools and police and shit.oregonblitzkrieg said:Property taxes are just another form of state sanctioned theft and should be abolished. As long as property taxes exist, no one truly owns the land they live on and the basement they sleep in, they are just renting it from the government. Fuck property taxes.
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Perhaps we crossed terms. I meantt good as in goods & services. No question that broadly available public education is a societal good. Compulsory, publicly funded education is probably on balance a good thing(tm). Could also be the largest corporate welfare program in history.AZDuck said:
Gotta disagree. Education makes the pack (flock?) smarter and better. Also keeps the little hoodlums off the streets. Show me a country with an entirely private educational system and I'll show you sub-Saharan Africa, or the Middle Ages.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Education of any level is a legitimate private good. Coercive force is not.AZDuck said:
Srsly. Do you really fucking think primary education and public safety are private goods? If so, kill your face with a rusty cheese grater in the ass. If you're trolling, well done.Fenderbender123 said:
Why pretend like taxes are the only way to pay for stuff? Are you incapable of spending money yourself?2001400ex said:
Great idea. We don't need schools and police and shit.oregonblitzkrieg said:Property taxes are just another form of state sanctioned theft and should be abolished. As long as property taxes exist, no one truly owns the land they live on and the basement they sleep in, they are just renting it from the government. Fuck property taxes.
I do think "primary education and public safety" is a false equivalency. -
It's more fun when I'm not arguing with GoebbelsDuck.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Perhaps we crossed terms. I meantt good as in goods & services. No question that broadly available public education is a societal good. Compulsory, publicly funded education is probably on balance a good thing(tm). Could also be the largest corporate welfare program in history.AZDuck said:
Gotta disagree. Education makes the pack (flock?) smarter and better. Also keeps the little hoodlums off the streets. Show me a country with an entirely private educational system and I'll show you sub-Saharan Africa, or the Middle Ages.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Education of any level is a legitimate private good. Coercive force is not.AZDuck said:
Srsly. Do you really fucking think primary education and public safety are private goods? If so, kill your face with a rusty cheese grater in the ass. If you're trolling, well done.Fenderbender123 said:
Why pretend like taxes are the only way to pay for stuff? Are you incapable of spending money yourself?2001400ex said:
Great idea. We don't need schools and police and shit.oregonblitzkrieg said:Property taxes are just another form of state sanctioned theft and should be abolished. As long as property taxes exist, no one truly owns the land they live on and the basement they sleep in, they are just renting it from the government. Fuck property taxes.
I do think "primary education and public safety" is a false equivalency.
I would posit that an educated society is as important to public safety, if not more so, than the police and fire departments combined. -
I've more thoughts than willing type on phone.AZDuck said:
It's more fun when I'm not arguing with GoebbelsDuck.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Perhaps we crossed terms. I meantt good as in goods & services. No question that broadly available public education is a societal good. Compulsory, publicly funded education is probably on balance a good thing(tm). Could also be the largest corporate welfare program in history.AZDuck said:
Gotta disagree. Education makes the pack (flock?) smarter and better. Also keeps the little hoodlums off the streets. Show me a country with an entirely private educational system and I'll show you sub-Saharan Africa, or the Middle Ages.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Education of any level is a legitimate private good. Coercive force is not.AZDuck said:
Srsly. Do you really fucking think primary education and public safety are private goods? If so, kill your face with a rusty cheese grater in the ass. If you're trolling, well done.Fenderbender123 said:
Why pretend like taxes are the only way to pay for stuff? Are you incapable of spending money yourself?2001400ex said:
Great idea. We don't need schools and police and shit.oregonblitzkrieg said:Property taxes are just another form of state sanctioned theft and should be abolished. As long as property taxes exist, no one truly owns the land they live on and the basement they sleep in, they are just renting it from the government. Fuck property taxes.
I do think "primary education and public safety" is a false equivalency.
I would posit that an educated society is as important to public safety, if not more so, than the police and fire departments combined.
Seems to be a fundamental theme of most people of good will along spectrum. We? basically want the same good things in life for another. The difference is the means by which to affect those outcomes. To be even more reductive: what are the things I would convince my neighbor to do, and what are the things I'd command him to do at gunpoint. -
If Belotti lives another 20 years from this month forward, he will have been paid $10,739,959.20 from Oregon PERS. Please to be providing stats showing Belotti paid this much or more into PERS. And after you do that, please to be bungee jumping off the Space Needle without a bungee cord.2001400ex said:
Again. The money is paid in during his tenure. What part of that don't you understand?oregonblitzkrieg said:
Who gives a fuck. Rip it up.AZDuck said:HE HAD A CONTRACT!
Seriously. It's right there, in the Contracts clause of the Constitution.
