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  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    AlCzervik said:

    Swaye said:

    Serious question for @BearsWiin

    Why is it, do you think, that violent extremism is so much more prevalent with muslims than christians? I agree with you that not all muslims want to destroy everything, but evidence (I haven't looked it up and have no numbers) would seem to suggest they commit a lot more terrorist acts than pissed off christians. Sure Tim McVeigh blew some shit up, but since then muslims have killed thousands in dozens of separate attacks.

    I concede that you are correct that not all muslims are bad, but surely you can see the radical element in their religion is many times higher than any other religion I can think of and it's not close. Why do you think that is?

    It's all about perspective. First, from a historical perspective, the west's treatment of the middle east and Islam has been the sort of thing that would tend to piss people off. Look it up.

    Second, the US has killed over a million Iraqis since it unjustly invaded and occupied that country. This is really nothing new for them. Therefore, for many in that part of the world, we* are the irrational murderous extremists who want to destroy everything. If you ask them, we* commit far more acts of "terror" than a handful of "pissed off Muslims." Our acts of "terror" have been carried out an institutional level; theirs have not. Our leaders are "radical," not theirs.

    It's really not that hard to figure out. You do have to get past the hysteria ... on both sides.

    Moral equivalency dogma, 101. When the middle eastern radicals stop chopping off heads and stoning their daughters to death in the name of their religion, and tear up their charter documents calling for the mass genocide of jews and extermination of Israel, then let's talk.

    Your underlying premise is that if we? stopped, they would stop. I.e., Muslim Terrorism is simply a reaction to our provocative actions. Got it.

    Except history just called and said you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
    My poast was about perspective. You have none.

    Your poast is once again too insipid and ironic and off point to warrant any real response.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    AlCzervik said:

    AlCzervik said:

    Swaye said:

    Serious question for @BearsWiin

    Why is it, do you think, that violent extremism is so much more prevalent with muslims than christians? I agree with you that not all muslims want to destroy everything, but evidence (I haven't looked it up and have no numbers) would seem to suggest they commit a lot more terrorist acts than pissed off christians. Sure Tim McVeigh blew some shit up, but since then muslims have killed thousands in dozens of separate attacks.

    I concede that you are correct that not all muslims are bad, but surely you can see the radical element in their religion is many times higher than any other religion I can think of and it's not close. Why do you think that is?

    It's all about perspective. First, from a historical perspective, the west's treatment of the middle east and Islam has been the sort of thing that would tend to piss people off. Look it up.

    Second, the US has killed over a million Iraqis since it unjustly invaded and occupied that country. This is really nothing new for them. Therefore, for many in that part of the world, we* are the irrational murderous extremists who want to destroy everything. If you ask them, we* commit far more acts of "terror" than a handful of "pissed off Muslims." Our acts of "terror" have been carried out an institutional level; theirs have not. Our leaders are "radical," not theirs.

    It's really not that hard to figure out. You do have to get past the hysteria ... on both sides.

    Moral equivalency dogma, 101. When the middle eastern radicals stop chopping off heads and stoning their daughters to death in the name of their religion, and tear up their charter documents calling for the mass genocide of jews and extermination of Israel, then let's talk.

    Your underlying premise is that if we? stopped, they would stop. I.e., Muslim Terrorism is simply a reaction to our provocative actions. Got it.

    Except history just called and said you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
    My poast was about perspective. You have none.

    Your poast is once again too insipid and ironic and off point to warrant any real response.
    Translation: You have nothing.
  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    AlCzervik said:

    AlCzervik said:

    Swaye said:

    Serious question for @BearsWiin

    Why is it, do you think, that violent extremism is so much more prevalent with muslims than christians? I agree with you that not all muslims want to destroy everything, but evidence (I haven't looked it up and have no numbers) would seem to suggest they commit a lot more terrorist acts than pissed off christians. Sure Tim McVeigh blew some shit up, but since then muslims have killed thousands in dozens of separate attacks.

    I concede that you are correct that not all muslims are bad, but surely you can see the radical element in their religion is many times higher than any other religion I can think of and it's not close. Why do you think that is?

    It's all about perspective. First, from a historical perspective, the west's treatment of the middle east and Islam has been the sort of thing that would tend to piss people off. Look it up.

    Second, the US has killed over a million Iraqis since it unjustly invaded and occupied that country. This is really nothing new for them. Therefore, for many in that part of the world, we* are the irrational murderous extremists who want to destroy everything. If you ask them, we* commit far more acts of "terror" than a handful of "pissed off Muslims." Our acts of "terror" have been carried out an institutional level; theirs have not. Our leaders are "radical," not theirs.

    It's really not that hard to figure out. You do have to get past the hysteria ... on both sides.

    Moral equivalency dogma, 101. When the middle eastern radicals stop chopping off heads and stoning their daughters to death in the name of their religion, and tear up their charter documents calling for the mass genocide of jews and extermination of Israel, then let's talk.

    Your underlying premise is that if we? stopped, they would stop. I.e., Muslim Terrorism is simply a reaction to our provocative actions. Got it.

    Except history just called and said you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
    My poast was about perspective. You have none.

    Your poast is once again too insipid and ironic and off point to warrant any real response.
    Translation: You have nothing.
    OBK is more your speed son.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    AlCzervik said:

    AlCzervik said:

    AlCzervik said:

    Swaye said:

    Serious question for @BearsWiin

    Why is it, do you think, that violent extremism is so much more prevalent with muslims than christians? I agree with you that not all muslims want to destroy everything, but evidence (I haven't looked it up and have no numbers) would seem to suggest they commit a lot more terrorist acts than pissed off christians. Sure Tim McVeigh blew some shit up, but since then muslims have killed thousands in dozens of separate attacks.

    I concede that you are correct that not all muslims are bad, but surely you can see the radical element in their religion is many times higher than any other religion I can think of and it's not close. Why do you think that is?

    It's all about perspective. First, from a historical perspective, the west's treatment of the middle east and Islam has been the sort of thing that would tend to piss people off. Look it up.

    Second, the US has killed over a million Iraqis since it unjustly invaded and occupied that country. This is really nothing new for them. Therefore, for many in that part of the world, we* are the irrational murderous extremists who want to destroy everything. If you ask them, we* commit far more acts of "terror" than a handful of "pissed off Muslims." Our acts of "terror" have been carried out an institutional level; theirs have not. Our leaders are "radical," not theirs.

    It's really not that hard to figure out. You do have to get past the hysteria ... on both sides.

    Moral equivalency dogma, 101. When the middle eastern radicals stop chopping off heads and stoning their daughters to death in the name of their religion, and tear up their charter documents calling for the mass genocide of jews and extermination of Israel, then let's talk.

    Your underlying premise is that if we? stopped, they would stop. I.e., Muslim Terrorism is simply a reaction to our provocative actions. Got it.

    Except history just called and said you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
    My poast was about perspective. You have none.

    Your poast is once again too insipid and ironic and off point to warrant any real response.
    Translation: You have nothing.
    OBK is more your speed son.
    Keep wishing away the arguments that plant you on yours ass. Ignorance is bliss.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    In b4 Crusadez!
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    AlCzervik said:

    Go to many small British towns in the country and they look like 3rd world moslem bazaars.

    You've never been to Britain or a Bazaar you hysterical fuckstick.
    Be careful, the reds might be listening.

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    @Swaye true???!!!

  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Updated 2017 North American Terrorism Scorebored:

    White guys 1, Muslims nil

    Great 48 day scoping as always
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,032 Founders Club
    Not all Germans were Nazis
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,794 Standard Supporter
    AlCzervik said:

    A McVeigh drop to justify Al-Queda, ISIS, et. al is perhaps the most fuckingly stupid and intellectually lazy argument out there since but but..the Crusades.

    C'mon @BearsWiin - you're better than that.

    LOL. The argument that Christians are good and Muslims are bad is premised on the worst kind of anti-intellectualism. Bearswiin on the other hand is making cogent, thoughtful arguments. I'm not sure you know what "intellectually lazy" means and using the term incorrectly does not make you look cool in the way you hoped.
    Dropping Tim McVeigh is the Godwin's law of this debate. It's fucking stupid AND lazy.

    I could give two fucks on looking cool.

    Well maybe one of @Swaye 's fucks but that's between us. I don't kiss and tell.