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My poast was about perspective. You have none.TurdBuffer said:
Moral equivalency dogma, 101. When the middle eastern radicals stop chopping off heads and stoning their daughters to death in the name of their religion, and tear up their charter documents calling for the mass genocide of jews and extermination of Israel, then let's talk.AlCzervik said:
It's all about perspective. First, from a historical perspective, the west's treatment of the middle east and Islam has been the sort of thing that would tend to piss people off. Look it up.Swaye said:Serious question for @BearsWiin
Why is it, do you think, that violent extremism is so much more prevalent with muslims than christians? I agree with you that not all muslims want to destroy everything, but evidence (I haven't looked it up and have no numbers) would seem to suggest they commit a lot more terrorist acts than pissed off christians. Sure Tim McVeigh blew some shit up, but since then muslims have killed thousands in dozens of separate attacks.
I concede that you are correct that not all muslims are bad, but surely you can see the radical element in their religion is many times higher than any other religion I can think of and it's not close. Why do you think that is?
Second, the US has killed over a million Iraqis since it unjustly invaded and occupied that country. This is really nothing new for them. Therefore, for many in that part of the world, we* are the irrational murderous extremists who want to destroy everything. If you ask them, we* commit far more acts of "terror" than a handful of "pissed off Muslims." Our acts of "terror" have been carried out an institutional level; theirs have not. Our leaders are "radical," not theirs.
It's really not that hard to figure out. You do have to get past the hysteria ... on both sides.
Your underlying premise is that if we? stopped, they would stop. I.e., Muslim Terrorism is simply a reaction to our provocative actions. Got it.
Except history just called and said you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Your poast is once again too insipid and ironic and off point to warrant any real response. -
Translation: You have nothing.AlCzervik said:
My poast was about perspective. You have none.TurdBuffer said:
Moral equivalency dogma, 101. When the middle eastern radicals stop chopping off heads and stoning their daughters to death in the name of their religion, and tear up their charter documents calling for the mass genocide of jews and extermination of Israel, then let's talk.AlCzervik said:
It's all about perspective. First, from a historical perspective, the west's treatment of the middle east and Islam has been the sort of thing that would tend to piss people off. Look it up.Swaye said:Serious question for @BearsWiin
Why is it, do you think, that violent extremism is so much more prevalent with muslims than christians? I agree with you that not all muslims want to destroy everything, but evidence (I haven't looked it up and have no numbers) would seem to suggest they commit a lot more terrorist acts than pissed off christians. Sure Tim McVeigh blew some shit up, but since then muslims have killed thousands in dozens of separate attacks.
I concede that you are correct that not all muslims are bad, but surely you can see the radical element in their religion is many times higher than any other religion I can think of and it's not close. Why do you think that is?
Second, the US has killed over a million Iraqis since it unjustly invaded and occupied that country. This is really nothing new for them. Therefore, for many in that part of the world, we* are the irrational murderous extremists who want to destroy everything. If you ask them, we* commit far more acts of "terror" than a handful of "pissed off Muslims." Our acts of "terror" have been carried out an institutional level; theirs have not. Our leaders are "radical," not theirs.
It's really not that hard to figure out. You do have to get past the hysteria ... on both sides.
Your underlying premise is that if we? stopped, they would stop. I.e., Muslim Terrorism is simply a reaction to our provocative actions. Got it.
Except history just called and said you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Your poast is once again too insipid and ironic and off point to warrant any real response. -
OBK is more your speed son.TurdBuffer said:
Translation: You have nothing.AlCzervik said:
My poast was about perspective. You have none.TurdBuffer said:
Moral equivalency dogma, 101. When the middle eastern radicals stop chopping off heads and stoning their daughters to death in the name of their religion, and tear up their charter documents calling for the mass genocide of jews and extermination of Israel, then let's talk.AlCzervik said:
It's all about perspective. First, from a historical perspective, the west's treatment of the middle east and Islam has been the sort of thing that would tend to piss people off. Look it up.Swaye said:Serious question for @BearsWiin
Why is it, do you think, that violent extremism is so much more prevalent with muslims than christians? I agree with you that not all muslims want to destroy everything, but evidence (I haven't looked it up and have no numbers) would seem to suggest they commit a lot more terrorist acts than pissed off christians. Sure Tim McVeigh blew some shit up, but since then muslims have killed thousands in dozens of separate attacks.
I concede that you are correct that not all muslims are bad, but surely you can see the radical element in their religion is many times higher than any other religion I can think of and it's not close. Why do you think that is?
Second, the US has killed over a million Iraqis since it unjustly invaded and occupied that country. This is really nothing new for them. Therefore, for many in that part of the world, we* are the irrational murderous extremists who want to destroy everything. If you ask them, we* commit far more acts of "terror" than a handful of "pissed off Muslims." Our acts of "terror" have been carried out an institutional level; theirs have not. Our leaders are "radical," not theirs.
It's really not that hard to figure out. You do have to get past the hysteria ... on both sides.
Your underlying premise is that if we? stopped, they would stop. I.e., Muslim Terrorism is simply a reaction to our provocative actions. Got it.
Except history just called and said you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Your poast is once again too insipid and ironic and off point to warrant any real response. -
Keep wishing away the arguments that plant you on yours ass. Ignorance is bliss.AlCzervik said:
OBK is more your speed son.TurdBuffer said:
Translation: You have nothing.AlCzervik said:
My poast was about perspective. You have none.TurdBuffer said:
Moral equivalency dogma, 101. When the middle eastern radicals stop chopping off heads and stoning their daughters to death in the name of their religion, and tear up their charter documents calling for the mass genocide of jews and extermination of Israel, then let's talk.AlCzervik said:
It's all about perspective. First, from a historical perspective, the west's treatment of the middle east and Islam has been the sort of thing that would tend to piss people off. Look it up.Swaye said:Serious question for @BearsWiin
Why is it, do you think, that violent extremism is so much more prevalent with muslims than christians? I agree with you that not all muslims want to destroy everything, but evidence (I haven't looked it up and have no numbers) would seem to suggest they commit a lot more terrorist acts than pissed off christians. Sure Tim McVeigh blew some shit up, but since then muslims have killed thousands in dozens of separate attacks.
I concede that you are correct that not all muslims are bad, but surely you can see the radical element in their religion is many times higher than any other religion I can think of and it's not close. Why do you think that is?
Second, the US has killed over a million Iraqis since it unjustly invaded and occupied that country. This is really nothing new for them. Therefore, for many in that part of the world, we* are the irrational murderous extremists who want to destroy everything. If you ask them, we* commit far more acts of "terror" than a handful of "pissed off Muslims." Our acts of "terror" have been carried out an institutional level; theirs have not. Our leaders are "radical," not theirs.
It's really not that hard to figure out. You do have to get past the hysteria ... on both sides.
Your underlying premise is that if we? stopped, they would stop. I.e., Muslim Terrorism is simply a reaction to our provocative actions. Got it.
Except history just called and said you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Your poast is once again too insipid and ironic and off point to warrant any real response. -
In b4 Crusadez!
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@Swaye true???!!!oregonblitzkrieg said:
Be careful, the reds might be listening.AlCzervik said:
You've never been to Britain or a Bazaar you hysterical fuckstick.oregonblitzkrieg said:Go to many small British towns in the country and they look like 3rd world moslem bazaars.
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Great 48 day scoping as alwaysTierbsHsotBoobs said:Updated 2017 North American Terrorism Scorebored:
White guys 1, Muslims nil -
North American Muslims just need more tim.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Updated 2017 North American Terrorism Scorebored:
White guys 1, Muslims nil
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Not all Germans were Nazis
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Dropping Tim McVeigh is the Godwin's law of this debate. It's fucking stupid AND lazy.AlCzervik said:
LOL. The argument that Christians are good and Muslims are bad is premised on the worst kind of anti-intellectualism. Bearswiin on the other hand is making cogent, thoughtful arguments. I'm not sure you know what "intellectually lazy" means and using the term incorrectly does not make you look cool in the way you hoped.PurpleThrobber said:A McVeigh drop to justify Al-Queda, ISIS, et. al is perhaps the most fuckingly stupid and intellectually lazy argument out there since but but..the Crusades.
C'mon @BearsWiin - you're better than that.
I could give two fucks on looking cool.
Well maybe one of @Swaye 's fucks but that's between us. I don't kiss and tell.
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Godwin's law cuts both ways here.PurpleThrobber said:
Dropping Tim McVeigh is the Godwin's law of this debate. It's fucking stupid AND lazy.AlCzervik said:
LOL. The argument that Christians are good and Muslims are bad is premised on the worst kind of anti-intellectualism. Bearswiin on the other hand is making cogent, thoughtful arguments. I'm not sure you know what "intellectually lazy" means and using the term incorrectly does not make you look cool in the way you hoped.PurpleThrobber said:A McVeigh drop to justify Al-Queda, ISIS, et. al is perhaps the most fuckingly stupid and intellectually lazy argument out there since but but..the Crusades.
C'mon @BearsWiin - you're better than that.
I could give two fucks on looking cool.
Well maybe one of @Swaye 's fucks but that's between us. I don't kiss and tell. -
Still wouldn't make it on the Leicester City boards.PurpleJ said:As long as I get to watch Champions League FOOTBALL, I'm good.
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The French are having a great time with the wonderful, assimilating mooselimb immigrants. It's all wine, roses, no go zones and riots. The religion of peace.2001400ex said:
That's like showing the stats of Chinatown in a few cities in America and saying America will be Chinese soon.oregonblitzkrieg said:
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So calling BearsWiin a dumbass is a threadkiller?AlCzervik said:
Godwin's law cuts both ways here.PurpleThrobber said:
Dropping Tim McVeigh is the Godwin's law of this debate. It's fucking stupid AND lazy.AlCzervik said:
LOL. The argument that Christians are good and Muslims are bad is premised on the worst kind of anti-intellectualism. Bearswiin on the other hand is making cogent, thoughtful arguments. I'm not sure you know what "intellectually lazy" means and using the term incorrectly does not make you look cool in the way you hoped.PurpleThrobber said:A McVeigh drop to justify Al-Queda, ISIS, et. al is perhaps the most fuckingly stupid and intellectually lazy argument out there since but but..the Crusades.
C'mon @BearsWiin - you're better than that.
I could give two fucks on looking cool.
Well maybe one of @Swaye 's fucks but that's between us. I don't kiss and tell.
Noted for future reference. Thanks.
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It's all good. Better people have called me worse things.PurpleThrobber said:
So calling BearsWiin a dumbass is a threadkiller?AlCzervik said:
Godwin's law cuts both ways here.PurpleThrobber said:
Dropping Tim McVeigh is the Godwin's law of this debate. It's fucking stupid AND lazy.AlCzervik said:
LOL. The argument that Christians are good and Muslims are bad is premised on the worst kind of anti-intellectualism. Bearswiin on the other hand is making cogent, thoughtful arguments. I'm not sure you know what "intellectually lazy" means and using the term incorrectly does not make you look cool in the way you hoped.PurpleThrobber said:A McVeigh drop to justify Al-Queda, ISIS, et. al is perhaps the most fuckingly stupid and intellectually lazy argument out there since but but..the Crusades.
C'mon @BearsWiin - you're better than that.
I could give two fucks on looking cool.
Well maybe one of @Swaye 's fucks but that's between us. I don't kiss and tell.
Noted for future reference. Thanks. -
Not personal. Just defining the rules.BearsWiin said:
It's all good. Better people have called me worse things.PurpleThrobber said:
So calling BearsWiin a dumbass is a threadkiller?AlCzervik said:
Godwin's law cuts both ways here.PurpleThrobber said:
Dropping Tim McVeigh is the Godwin's law of this debate. It's fucking stupid AND lazy.AlCzervik said:
LOL. The argument that Christians are good and Muslims are bad is premised on the worst kind of anti-intellectualism. Bearswiin on the other hand is making cogent, thoughtful arguments. I'm not sure you know what "intellectually lazy" means and using the term incorrectly does not make you look cool in the way you hoped.PurpleThrobber said:A McVeigh drop to justify Al-Queda, ISIS, et. al is perhaps the most fuckingly stupid and intellectually lazy argument out there since but but..the Crusades.
C'mon @BearsWiin - you're better than that.
I could give two fucks on looking cool.
Well maybe one of @Swaye 's fucks but that's between us. I don't kiss and tell.
Noted for future reference. Thanks. -
I hate all religions equally.PurpleJ said:It's an inherently violent religion as supported by history and the actual text of the holy book. Claiming a false equivalency with Christianity because of a few isolated incidents does not change that.
The God hating leftists can bash religion all they want, as long as it's white redneck NASCAR Jesus. That's okay. If they choose to defend a religion started by a violent rapist warlord named Muhammed that is still a blight on humanity to this day, that's where I draw the line. -
DISAGREETierbsHsotBoobs said:
I hate all religions equally.
Rastafari is a religion which developed in Jamaica in the 1930s, following the coronation of Haile Selassie I as Emperor of Ethiopia in 1930. There are many sects of Rastafari that have developed over the years. Its adherents worship him in much the same way as Jesus in his Second Advent, or as God the Son.[1] Members of the Rastafari way of life are known as Rastafari, Rastas, or simply Ras. Rastafari are also known by their official church titles, such as Elder or High Priest. The way of life is sometimes referred to as "Rastafarianism", but this term is considered offensive by most Rastafari, who, being critical of "isms" or "ians" (which they see as a typical part of "Babylon" culture), dislike being labelled as an "ism" or "ian" themselves. Rastafari has always been conceived as a way of life for and by people of African descent.[2]
The name Rastafari is taken from Ras Tafari, the title (Ras) and first name (Tafari Makonnen) of Haile Selassie I before his coronation. In Amharic, Ras, literally "head", is an Ethiopian title equivalent to prince or chief, while the personal given name Täfäri (teferi) means one who is revered. Yah (יה in Hebrew) is a Biblical name of God, from a shortened form of Jahweh or Yahuah found in Psalms 68:4 in the King James Version of the Bible and many other places in the Bible. Most adherents see Haile Selassie I as Jah or Jah Rastafari, an incarnation of God the Father, the Second Advent of Christ "the Anointed One", i.e. the second coming of Jesus Christ the King to Earth.
Many elements of Rastafari reflect its origins in Jamaica along with Ethiopian culture. Ethiopian Christianity traces its roots to the Church of Alexandria, founded by St Mark, and its 5th-century continuation in the Coptic Church of Alexandria.[3][4] Rastafari holds many Christian beliefs like the existence of a triune God ("Jah"), who had sent his divine incarnate son to Earth in the form of Jesus (Yeshua) and made himself manifest as the divine person of Haile Selassie I. Rastafari accept much of the Bible, although they believe that its message and interpretation have been corrupted.[5]
The Rastafari way of life encompasses the spiritual use of cannabis[6][7] and the rejection of the degenerate society of materialism, oppression, and sensual pleasures, called Babylon.[8][9] It proclaims Zion, in reference to Ethiopia, as the original birthplace of humankind, and from the beginning of the way of life calls for repatriation to Zion, the Promised Land and Heaven on Earth. This can mean literally moving to Ethiopia but also refers to mentally and emotionally repatriating before the physical.[10][11] Some Rastafari also embrace various Afrocentric and Pan-African social and political aspirations.[6][12]
Some Rastafari do not claim any sect or denomination, and thus encourage one another to find faith and inspiration within themselves, although some do identify strongly with one of the "Mansions of Rastafari"—the three most prominent of these being the Nyahbinghi, the Bobo Ashanti, and the Twelve Tribes of Israel.[13]
International awareness of Rastafari grew in the 1970s as a result of the popularity of reggae music, and especially the international success of singer/songwriter Bob Marley. By 1997 there were, according to one estimate, around one million Rastafari worldwide.[14] In the 2011 Jamaican census, 29,026 individuals identified themselves as Rastafari.[15] Other sources estimated that in the 2000s they formed "about 5% of the population" of Jamaica,[16] or conjectured that "there are perhaps as many as 100,000 Rastafari in Jamaica".[17]
World-views and doctrines
Jah Rastafari
“ ... Ethiopia shall soon stretch out her hands unto God. ”
— Psalm 68:31
Rastafari are monotheists, worshiping a singular God whom they call Jah. Jah is the term in the King James Bible, Psalms 68:4. Rastas view Jah in the form of the Holy Trinity – Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. Rastas say that Jah in the form of the Holy Spirit (incarnate) lives within the human. For this reason, they often refer to themselves as "I and I". "I and I" is used instead of "We" to emphasize the equality between all people, in the belief that the Holy Spirit within all people makes them essentially one and the same.
The Trinity
Rastafari doctrines concerning the Trinity include stressing the significance of the name "Haile Selassie," meaning power of the Trinity, might of the Trinity, powerful trinity in Ge'ez or also Haile Selassie I (qedamawi Haile Selassie) meaning the (first power of the Trinity) name given to Ras Tafari upon his baptism and later assumed as part of his regnal name at his November 2, 1930 coronation by the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, then known as just the Ethiopian Tewahedo Church.
Haile Selassie I
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Ethiopian Emperor Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia, considered by Rastas to be the reincarnation of Christ.
Haile Selassie I (1892–1975) was the Emperor of Ethiopia from 1930 to 1974. Rastafari say that he will lead the righteous into creating a perfect world called Zion.
The future capital city of Zion is sometimes put forward as the New Jerusalem (Lalibela, Ethiopia) and the very Habitation of the Godhead (Trinity) creator, Ras Tafari. Prophetic verses of the Hebrew Bible (such as Zephaniah 3:10 "From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia My worshipers, the daughter of My dispersed ones, shall bring my offering") have been interpreted as subtly hinting that the messianic king will be in Ethiopia and the people will come from all over world beyond its rivers.
Rastas may say that Haile Selassie I's coming was prophesied from Genesis to the Book of Revelation. Genesis, Chapter 1: "God made man in His own image." Psalm 2: "Yet I set my Holy king on My Holy hill of Zion." Psalm 87:4–6 is interpreted as predicting the coronation of Haile Selassie I. During his coronation, Haile Selassie I was given 38 titles and anointments taken from the Bible: "King of Kings," "Elect of God," "Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah the Author of Mankind," "the Power of Authority," etc. He also received acclaim from various Christian and Muslim leaders and clergy for the work he performed towards establishing world peace and the brotherhood of mankind — this being one of the primary reasons his followers hold him as a God incarnate. Rastas also refer to Haile Selassie I as "His Imperial Majesty" (or the acronym HIM) and "Jah Rastafari."
According to tradition, Haile Selassie I was the 225th in an unbroken line of Ethiopian monarchs of the Solomonic dynasty. This dynasty is said to have been founded in the 10th century BC by Menelik I. Menelik I was son of the Biblical King Solomon and Makeda, the Queen of Sheba, who had visited Solomon in Israel. 1 Kings 10:13 claims "And King Solomon gave unto the Queen of Sheba all her desire, whatsoever she asked, beside that which Solomon gave her of his royal bounty. So she turned and went to her own country, she and her servants." On the basis of the Ethiopian national epic, the Kebra Negast, Rastas interpret this verse as meaning she conceived his child.
The death of Haile Selassie I is a topic of some debate among Rastafari.[6] Some Rastas consider it a partial fulfillment of prophecy of the "Temporary Messianic Kingdom" found in the apocalyptic 2 Esdras 7:28. Others believe that Haile Selassie's 1975 reported death was a hoax. It has also been claimed that he entered a monastery and is now known by many as Abba Keddus (Amharic for Holy Father) and will return to liberate his followers and vanquish all evil, restoring his creation. One Rastafari reaction to Haile Selassie's supposed death was contained in Bob Marley's song Jah Live, which declares emphatically "God cannot die." Many Rastafari claim to have met Haile Selassie after his reported death and know him also by his claimed new name Abba Keddus or Abba Keddus Keddus Keddus.[18]
For some Rastafari, Haile Selassie I remains their God and King.[19] They see Haile Selassie I as being worthy of worship for having stood with great dignity in front of the world's press and the representatives of many of the world's powerful nations, especially during his appeal to the League of Nations 1936 when he was still the only independent non-European monarch in Africa. Other followers of the Rastafari tradition do not worship him outright but hail him as an African prophet who spoke to the world on behalf of his brethren. He spoke to the plight of disenfranchised peoples throughout his life.
In a 1967 interview when a Canadian interviewer mentioned the Rastafari belief that he was the reincarnation of Jesus Christ,[20] he responded by saying: "I have heard of this idea. I also met certain Rastafarians. I told them clearly that I am a man, that I am mortal, and that I will be replaced by the oncoming generation, and that they should never make a mistake in assuming or pretending that a human being is emanated from a deity." His grandson Ermias Sahle Selassie has said that there is “no doubt that Haile Selassie did not encourage the Rastafari movement.”[21] This encouragement included his meetings with Mortimer Planno and other movement leaders who journeyed to Addis Ababa in 1961, again in 1966 on his visit to Jamaica, and many times at Shashemene in the later years of his reign.
The Rastafarian movement prompted the Emperor to send Abuna Yesehaq, the Archbishop of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church to Jamaica. -
Pics?BearsWiin said:
plump cockney hoesoregonblitzkrieg said:Go to many small British towns in the country and they look like 3rd world moslem bazaars.
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Um no, Russia is not a communism. I think that's my whole point, they are a democracy with mostly privatized business now. And are still trying to take over territories. But keep being ignorant. Communism and Muslims are evil!!!!TurdBuffer said:
But Russia is Communist, Hondo. And everybody knows communism is peaceful and nobody kills because of it, or in it's name, just like you were arguing a couple days back. Remember? I suppose if a poll was taken in your neighborhood, you'd all want communism and Kshama Sawant as your Premier.2001400ex said:
Russia just passed a law allowing the beating of your wife. Do you really want to use that example?TurdBuffer said:
Friend: You need to start paying attention to the surveys conducted in Great Britain, where the percentages of muslims who want Sharia Law and don't believe beating their wives and daughters should be illegal are sobering to say the least, over 50% in some areas. Most are good people who can't or won't stand up against the militant elements, which, in this war of ideas, is like loading the guns for the enemy, but handing it to someone else to shoot. If you're a Berkeley guy, you know what facilitating means. And therein lies a massive, but perhaps not insurmountable problem with Islam in the West. Only time will tell.BearsWiin said:
He's a product of the militia mentality. The vast majority of white Christians don't shoot up churches in Charleston or mosques in Quebec, nor do they support such actions. The vast majority of Muslims don't shoot up theaters like Bataclan or bars in Orlando, nor do they support such actions. But yeah, it's helpful to damn an entire culture for the actions of asshats on the fringe.TurdBuffer said:
Time to call Bullshit here. McVeigh acted on his own.BearsWiin said:oregonblitzkrieg said:
The corpses at the Bataclan Theater say va te faire enculerBearsWiin said:
Probably one more English town than you've been to recently. But, yeah, I spent most of the time in France and Belgium. Stayed in the Marais Arrondissement in Paris for a week, saw lots of Muslims, even ate their food, managed to not get my throat cut. Amazing what you can do when you're not afraid, or stupid.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sounds like you really traveled the country and covered a lot of groundBearsWiin said:
I spent a few days in Canterbury this last summer, and all I saw were plump cockney hoes and their pale crooked-toothed wanker boyfriends. But, yeah, Muslim in 20 years. *Christ.*oregonblitzkrieg said:Go to many small British towns in the country and they look like 3rd world moslem bazaars.
What do the corpses of Oklahoma City say?
When a white asshat does this, you dismiss it as the work of a lone disturbed individual. When a raghead brownskin asshat does this, you damn an entire culture. You're no better than they are. Fuck you. I hope you die slowly in a bloody zipper accident.
Yours is a vintage Berkeley pacifist-in-denial invalid argument. It isn't the same at all, as has been explained and recounted here at length, numerous times. Yet, you continue to see the two as equal. It's your problem if you can't comprehend the obvious differences. What's worse about Left Coast Berkeley types and those you inspire, isn't that you can't comprehend the differences, but that you won't.
Are you sure you want to argue that Russia is part of the Western World or Western culture? They pretty much killed every draft age male in Chechnya to deal with their Islamic terrorism problem, for a generation at least.
I'll answer for you here: You don't know what the fuck you want, because you're all over the map, ideologically.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Russia
You might think I'm all over the board ideologically. It's actually called free thinking and calling stuff bullshit that's bullshit. I don't follow liberal ideology from either party. -
2001400ex said:
Um no, Russia is not a communism. I think that's my whole point, they are a democracy with mostly privatized business now. And are still trying to take over territories. But keep being ignorant. Communism and Muslims are evil!!!!TurdBuffer said:
But Russia is Communist, Hondo. And everybody knows communism is peaceful and nobody kills because of it, or in it's name, just like you were arguing a couple days back. Remember? I suppose if a poll was taken in your neighborhood, you'd all want communism and Kshama Sawant as your Premier.2001400ex said:
Russia just passed a law allowing the beating of your wife. Do you really want to use that example?TurdBuffer said:
Friend: You need to start paying attention to the surveys conducted in Great Britain, where the percentages of muslims who want Sharia Law and don't believe beating their wives and daughters should be illegal are sobering to say the least, over 50% in some areas. Most are good people who can't or won't stand up against the militant elements, which, in this war of ideas, is like loading the guns for the enemy, but handing it to someone else to shoot. If you're a Berkeley guy, you know what facilitating means. And therein lies a massive, but perhaps not insurmountable problem with Islam in the West. Only time will tell.BearsWiin said:
He's a product of the militia mentality. The vast majority of white Christians don't shoot up churches in Charleston or mosques in Quebec, nor do they support such actions. The vast majority of Muslims don't shoot up theaters like Bataclan or bars in Orlando, nor do they support such actions. But yeah, it's helpful to damn an entire culture for the actions of asshats on the fringe.TurdBuffer said:
Time to call Bullshit here. McVeigh acted on his own.BearsWiin said:oregonblitzkrieg said:
The corpses at the Bataclan Theater say va te faire enculerBearsWiin said:
Probably one more English town than you've been to recently. But, yeah, I spent most of the time in France and Belgium. Stayed in the Marais Arrondissement in Paris for a week, saw lots of Muslims, even ate their food, managed to not get my throat cut. Amazing what you can do when you're not afraid, or stupid.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sounds like you really traveled the country and covered a lot of groundBearsWiin said:
I spent a few days in Canterbury this last summer, and all I saw were plump cockney hoes and their pale crooked-toothed wanker boyfriends. But, yeah, Muslim in 20 years. *Christ.*oregonblitzkrieg said:Go to many small British towns in the country and they look like 3rd world moslem bazaars.
What do the corpses of Oklahoma City say?
When a white asshat does this, you dismiss it as the work of a lone disturbed individual. When a raghead brownskin asshat does this, you damn an entire culture. You're no better than they are. Fuck you. I hope you die slowly in a bloody zipper accident.
Yours is a vintage Berkeley pacifist-in-denial invalid argument. It isn't the same at all, as has been explained and recounted here at length, numerous times. Yet, you continue to see the two as equal. It's your problem if you can't comprehend the obvious differences. What's worse about Left Coast Berkeley types and those you inspire, isn't that you can't comprehend the differences, but that you won't.
Are you sure you want to argue that Russia is part of the Western World or Western culture? They pretty much killed every draft age male in Chechnya to deal with their Islamic terrorism problem, for a generation at least.
I'll answer for you here: You don't know what the fuck you want, because you're all over the map, ideologically.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Russia
You might think I'm all over the board ideologically. It's actually called free thinking and calling stuff bullshit that's bullshit. I don't follow liberal ideology from either party.
Your history says otherwise
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I'm not into beards or pajamas.Southerndawg said:2001400ex said:
Um no, Russia is not a communism. I think that's my whole point, they are a democracy with mostly privatized business now. And are still trying to take over territories. But keep being ignorant. Communism and Muslims are evil!!!!TurdBuffer said:
But Russia is Communist, Hondo. And everybody knows communism is peaceful and nobody kills because of it, or in it's name, just like you were arguing a couple days back. Remember? I suppose if a poll was taken in your neighborhood, you'd all want communism and Kshama Sawant as your Premier.2001400ex said:
Russia just passed a law allowing the beating of your wife. Do you really want to use that example?TurdBuffer said:
Friend: You need to start paying attention to the surveys conducted in Great Britain, where the percentages of muslims who want Sharia Law and don't believe beating their wives and daughters should be illegal are sobering to say the least, over 50% in some areas. Most are good people who can't or won't stand up against the militant elements, which, in this war of ideas, is like loading the guns for the enemy, but handing it to someone else to shoot. If you're a Berkeley guy, you know what facilitating means. And therein lies a massive, but perhaps not insurmountable problem with Islam in the West. Only time will tell.BearsWiin said:
He's a product of the militia mentality. The vast majority of white Christians don't shoot up churches in Charleston or mosques in Quebec, nor do they support such actions. The vast majority of Muslims don't shoot up theaters like Bataclan or bars in Orlando, nor do they support such actions. But yeah, it's helpful to damn an entire culture for the actions of asshats on the fringe.TurdBuffer said:
Time to call Bullshit here. McVeigh acted on his own.BearsWiin said:oregonblitzkrieg said:
The corpses at the Bataclan Theater say va te faire enculerBearsWiin said:
Probably one more English town than you've been to recently. But, yeah, I spent most of the time in France and Belgium. Stayed in the Marais Arrondissement in Paris for a week, saw lots of Muslims, even ate their food, managed to not get my throat cut. Amazing what you can do when you're not afraid, or stupid.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sounds like you really traveled the country and covered a lot of groundBearsWiin said:
I spent a few days in Canterbury this last summer, and all I saw were plump cockney hoes and their pale crooked-toothed wanker boyfriends. But, yeah, Muslim in 20 years. *Christ.*oregonblitzkrieg said:Go to many small British towns in the country and they look like 3rd world moslem bazaars.
What do the corpses of Oklahoma City say?
When a white asshat does this, you dismiss it as the work of a lone disturbed individual. When a raghead brownskin asshat does this, you damn an entire culture. You're no better than they are. Fuck you. I hope you die slowly in a bloody zipper accident.
Yours is a vintage Berkeley pacifist-in-denial invalid argument. It isn't the same at all, as has been explained and recounted here at length, numerous times. Yet, you continue to see the two as equal. It's your problem if you can't comprehend the obvious differences. What's worse about Left Coast Berkeley types and those you inspire, isn't that you can't comprehend the differences, but that you won't.
Are you sure you want to argue that Russia is part of the Western World or Western culture? They pretty much killed every draft age male in Chechnya to deal with their Islamic terrorism problem, for a generation at least.
I'll answer for you here: You don't know what the fuck you want, because you're all over the map, ideologically.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Russia
You might think I'm all over the board ideologically. It's actually called free thinking and calling stuff bullshit that's bullshit. I don't follow liberal ideology from either party.
Your history says otherwise
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All I know is if I see one more video of Christians cutting someones head off because they're not Christian I'll go nuts!
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Correct. Airplanes are more humane.Sledog said:All I know is if I see one more video of Christians cutting someones head off because they're not Christian I'll go nuts!
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@Humanity2001400ex said:
Correct. Airplanes are more humane.Sledog said:All I know is if I see one more video of Christians cutting someones head off because they're not Christian I'll go nuts!
https://youtu.be/yc_T75APRz8
Can we start a Gofundhondo account so He can take his Middle East dream vacation and report back on the happenings? -
I've walked through a few Muslim mosques in Northwest India. No one beheaded me.salemcoog said:
@Humanity2001400ex said:
Correct. Airplanes are more humane.Sledog said:All I know is if I see one more video of Christians cutting someones head off because they're not Christian I'll go nuts!
https://youtu.be/yc_T75APRz8
Can we start a Gofundhondo account so He can take his Middle East dream vacation and report back on the happenings? -
Bummer2001400ex said:
I've walked through a few Muslim mosques in Northwest India. No one beheaded me.salemcoog said:
@Humanity2001400ex said:
Correct. Airplanes are more humane.Sledog said:All I know is if I see one more video of Christians cutting someones head off because they're not Christian I'll go nuts!
https://youtu.be/yc_T75APRz8
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He's the embodiment of the fucktarded libradical philosophy that was discarded by the electorate in favor of sanity and common sense. There are no safe spaces here for him to be protected from the scary, rayciss opinions of other basement dwellers outside his Berkeley bubble. Because, you know, mocking Islam is inherently rayciss and means you must hate chinks, japs, kikes, spics, negroes, crackers and so on. You can't say that shit in Canada, it will get you fined and even baninnated to prison. But a bay area faggot like him probably loves that idea. A socialist utopia. Orwell would be so proud.PurpleThrobber said:
So calling BearsWiin a dumbass is a threadkiller?AlCzervik said:
Godwin's law cuts both ways here.PurpleThrobber said:
Dropping Tim McVeigh is the Godwin's law of this debate. It's fucking stupid AND lazy.AlCzervik said:
LOL. The argument that Christians are good and Muslims are bad is premised on the worst kind of anti-intellectualism. Bearswiin on the other hand is making cogent, thoughtful arguments. I'm not sure you know what "intellectually lazy" means and using the term incorrectly does not make you look cool in the way you hoped.PurpleThrobber said:A McVeigh drop to justify Al-Queda, ISIS, et. al is perhaps the most fuckingly stupid and intellectually lazy argument out there since but but..the Crusades.
C'mon @BearsWiin - you're better than that.
I could give two fucks on looking cool.
Well maybe one of @Swaye 's fucks but that's between us. I don't kiss and tell.
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The one time it would be permissible too.2001400ex said:
I've walked through a few Muslim mosques in Northwest India. No one beheaded me.salemcoog said:
@Humanity2001400ex said:
Correct. Airplanes are more humane.Sledog said:All I know is if I see one more video of Christians cutting someones head off because they're not Christian I'll go nuts!
https://youtu.be/yc_T75APRz8
Can we start a Gofundhondo account so He can take his Middle East dream vacation and report back on the happenings?
